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| afm | Sam-I-Am: around by chance? | 01:03 |
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| vu | Any idea why I cannot open: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-havana/rdo-release-havana-6.noarch.rpm. Skipping. | 02:18 |
| vu | Error: Nothing to do | 02:18 |
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| afm | open? it's a rpm….. | 02:22 |
| afm | yum install *link* | 02:23 |
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| vu | well I cannot yum install http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-havana/rdo-release-havana-6.noarch.rpm | 02:23 |
| vu | try it | 02:23 |
| afm | the docs say….. yum install -y http://rdo.fedorapeople.org/rdo-release.rpm | 02:24 |
| afm | http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 02:24 |
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| vu | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-packages.html | 02:24 |
| vu | I am on CentOS you? | 02:25 |
| afm | centos here… 6.4 | 02:26 |
| vu | same here | 02:26 |
| afm | check my link | 02:26 |
| vu | does the link work for you? | 02:26 |
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| afm | i have a 90% working setup today…. yes the link works, but … my link actually works | 02:27 |
| vu | strange | 02:28 |
| vu | Cannot open: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-havana/rdo-release-havana-6.noarch.rpm. Skipping. | 02:28 |
| vu | Error: Nothing to do | 02:28 |
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| vu | afm: how many nodes and do you use double net cards per node? | 02:29 |
| vu | I have a small lab and one nic per node | 02:29 |
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| vu | Also what do you use for block and object stores? | 02:29 |
| afm | allinone atm.. but have 3 more nodes to add when i have a working setup… all are dual nic | 02:29 |
| afm | use my link…. i've done it 3 times today alone | 02:30 |
| vu | Its for seting up on one machine..I am doing it on KVM over 3 diff servers | 02:31 |
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| vu | So I would like to go the big :-) way | 02:31 |
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| afm | iscsi emc backend…. dont see much wrong with the link... | 02:34 |
| afm | $ file rdo-release-havana-6.noarch.rpm | 02:35 |
| afm | rdo-release-havana-6.noarch.rpm: RPM v3.0 bin i386/x86_64 | 02:35 |
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| vu | afm: let me check my resolve.conf | 02:36 |
| vu | hmm...emc oh well not at home :-) | 02:36 |
| vu | what's a poor man's option? | 02:37 |
| afm | i have an iomega ix4-s00d…. shows up as emc via iscsi | 02:37 |
| afm | er ix4-200d | 02:37 |
| afm | it's home | 02:38 |
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| vu | Hmm...on Amazon its like $1064 steep! | 02:39 |
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| afm | i paid less than 600 | 02:39 |
| vu | why does it say cloud edition | 02:39 |
| vu | afm used? | 02:40 |
| afm | this was also 5 years ago.. brand new from Dell actually | 02:40 |
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| vu | http://www.amazon.com/Iomega-StorCenter-ix4-200d-Network-Storage/dp/B004TT1C28 | 02:40 |
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| afm | ha newegg says discontinued… old crap keeps kickin | 02:42 |
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| vu | ok so the ix4-s00d is a block storage..what do you use as object store? | 02:43 |
| vu | building a S3 here ;.) | 02:43 |
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| afm | cinder | 02:43 |
| afm | present the iscsi lun as an lvm | 02:44 |
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| vu | afm: didnt get the last bit..please explain! | 02:45 |
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| afm | i did a fresh install of 6.4 ; yum update ; install iscsi-utls ; scanned…pvcreate /dev/whatever ; vgcreate /dev/whatever and installed packstack… picked it right up | 02:46 |
| vu | oh cool | 02:47 |
| vu | was the fresh install a VM? | 02:47 |
| afm | nope baremetal | 02:47 |
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| vu | so now this 6.4 became your block storage? | 02:48 |
| afm | allinone for the moment…. | 02:48 |
| afm | i can carve out slices with no issues | 02:49 |
| afm | when i add a compute node, i'll dispurse | 02:49 |
| afm | i have a solaris linux 4 node OVM cluster, and another 4 nodes i'm looking to do openstack on | 02:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | moo. | 03:09 |
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| afm | cluck cluck | 03:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sup | 03:13 |
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| afm | how does tiny @1gb go to 20gb for small for disk space heh | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can change the flavors | 03:17 |
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| afm | Sam-I-Am: mind if i PM you with a neutron question? i've got my networks defined finally but dont know about the "port/router" info | 03:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | or just do it in here | 03:21 |
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| afm | as i said my networks look good….. pub/priv… match my actual networks now….. but i believe there is a router setting i'm missing... | 03:23 |
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| afm | bout to launch my first instance | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | is your public network created as the admin tenant and private as another tenant? | 03:23 |
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| afm | currently my pub/priv are under admin "projects" | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd split them | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | public as admin, mark it as external | 03:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you create the private net and router to the external net as the other tenant | 03:27 |
| afm | k.. will work on it | 03:28 |
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| vu | CentOS 6.5 cant get this to execute completely yum install openstack-utils | 05:08 |
| vu | says Error: Package: openstack-utils-2013.2-2.el6.noarch (openstack-havana) | 05:08 |
| vu | Requires: crudini | 05:08 |
| vu | You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem | 05:08 |
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| jonnor | Is a 503 Service Unavailable the expected status if there is a problem with my app setup caused by me? | 15:15 |
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| jonnor | Also, where can I see diagnostics/logs about the app starting. My app overview just has "Started"? | 15:15 |
| jonnor | this on OpenShift Online | 15:15 |
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| jonnor | logging into my app via ssh, I see that it is running "node server.js" (I don't have a server.js file). Why isnt it running what I have as my "npm start" configuration? | 15:49 |
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| afm | hmmm whats the difference between --neutron-ovs-bridge-mappings and --neutron-ovs-bridge-interfaces | 18:42 |
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| afm | does this make sense for a fresh install? packstack —allinone —cinder-backend=lvm —provision-demo=n —neutron-ovs-bridge-interfaces=br-ext:eth0 —neutron-ovs-bridge-interfaces=br-int:eth1 trying to avoid http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/comment/1671 if the bridging works now | 20:10 |
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| afm | meh here goes nothing…. reimage #5 :P | 20:22 |
| afm | this crap is hard and stuff heh | 20:22 |
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| Jokke_ | afm: that's the way to learn ;) | 20:23 |
| Jokke_ | sorry, but never used packstack | 20:24 |
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| afm | learning i am… and doing it right… documenting as i go…. | 20:27 |
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| afm | the iscsi cinder backend is a little challenging… i've had installs that picked it up by default and others not | 20:29 |
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| lbalbalba | hrm. perhaps this is why devstack / neutron fails on me... :( | 20:53 |
| lbalbalba | devstack logs say : neutron router-interface-add ; "NeutronError': {u'message': u'Invalid input for operation: IP address 10.0.0.1 is not a valid IP for the defined subnet.'" | 20:53 |
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| lbalbalba | anyone with neutron and/or devstack skills around ? | 20:57 |
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| Jokke_ | lbalbalba: I would say that most probably that invalid IP is reson why it fails | 21:02 |
| Jokke_ | which subnet it tries to use? | 21:02 |
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| radsy | lbalbalba, I'm far from an expert, but some instructions I've used are here: http://fpaste.org/60010/53670213/ | 21:06 |
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| radsy | might help | 21:07 |
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| lbalbalba | Jokke_: FIXED_RANGE=10.4.128.0/20 . i have no idea where it got that ip. | 21:08 |
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| lbalbalba | im retrying with this subnet now : 10.0.0.0/24 . if it want a 10.0.0.1 ip that badly it can get it ;) | 21:09 |
| Jokke_ | LOL ;) | 21:09 |
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| Jokke_ | could be worth of checking that router-interface-add what it's actually trying to do | 21:10 |
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| lbalbalba | radsy: thanks for the info. in my case, devstack ./stack.sh is supposed to that care of that part for me | 21:10 |
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| lbalbalba | Jokke_: yeah, if it fails on me again im gonna have to check that out. | 21:12 |
| evanjfraser_ | hi guys, anyone tried setting allowed-address-pairs with neutron before? | 21:12 |
| evanjfraser_ | I get an internal server error when I try it | 21:12 |
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| evanjfraser_ | Here's a paste bin of the error I get with allowed-address-pairs: http://pastebin.com/7vCDBsxX | 21:13 |
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| lbalbalba | looks like it runs ok this time. here's where it got the 10.0.0.1 ip from: neutron subnet-create --tenant_id ce97205b83884e0ab6f8cae2ab184257 --ip_version 4 --gateway 10.0.0.1 --name private-subnet 504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0b | 21:15 |
| lbalbalba | guess its a bug in stack.sh. oh, well | 21:16 |
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| lbalbalba | yes ! " Associated floatingip " | 21:23 |
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| lbalbalba | its annoying that neutron uses all those id numbers instead of names though | 21:23 |
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| lbalbalba | hrm. cant ping the floating ip, even though its associated to the vm now (Destination Net Unreachable) i *should* be able to ping it now, right ? | 21:25 |
| lbalbalba | ive run "nova secgroup-add-rule" for icmp and ssh | 21:25 |
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| Jokke_ | lbalbalba: you have 10.0.0.1 ip on that machine you're running stack.sh | 21:26 |
| Jokke_ | you might wanna look into lib/neutron file ... that's where the create_neutron_initial_network is sourced from | 21:27 |
| lbalbalba | Jokke_: http://fpaste.org/60011/13865380/ | 21:27 |
| lbalbalba | but i cant ping/ssh either 10.0.0.3 or 192.168.42.130 | 21:27 |
| Jokke_ | ok | 21:28 |
| lbalbalba | 10.0.0.1 is the router, i guess ? I *can* ping that | 21:28 |
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| lbalbalba | ah. this explains the 10.0.0.1 ip, at least: grep 10 lib/neutron: NETWORK_GATEWAY=${NETWORK_GATEWAY:-10.0.0.1} | 21:32 |
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| lbalbalba | hrm. should any of the ip's associated with the vms show up in the 'ifconfig' output ? i dont see them (wondering why i cant ping) | 21:34 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: fixed ips? No you shouldnt | 21:35 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: you are using nova-network or neutron? | 21:35 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: fixed or floating. | 21:35 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: neutron | 21:35 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: iva launched an instance, associated a floting ip, but cant ssh/ping it | 21:36 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: ok | 21:36 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: let me think, ok are you using namespaces? | 21:36 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: im doing whatever the 'default' is for devstack ;) . how can i check, what cmd to run ? | 21:36 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: i hate devstack | 21:39 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: something like ip netns .... | 21:39 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: try just ip netns | 21:39 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: gives me qrouter-c9fafcba-9c5f-42f2-b1a9-a3ab08c33d57 and qdhcp-504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0bda071 | 21:40 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: so you are using namespaces ;) | 21:40 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: i dont like devstack either but this stuff is just too complex to get right all at once from install to config | 21:40 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: ah | 21:40 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: its just exp "issue" after few installation you are doing it in 30mins ;) | 21:41 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: anyways | 21:41 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: try: ip netns qdhcp-504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0bda071 exec ping your_ip_here | 21:41 |
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| Qlawy | wrong | 21:41 |
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| Qlawy | ip netns exec qdhcp-504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0bda071 ping your_vms_ip_here | 21:42 |
| Qlawy | you can also try with qrouter network | 21:42 |
| lbalbalba | seting the network namespace "qdhcp-504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0bda071" failed: Operation not permitted | 21:42 |
| Qlawy | I have lack of experience with namespaces | 21:43 |
| Qlawy | due to rhel I cant use em :( | 21:43 |
| afm | i have an iscsi volume labled cinder-volumes that shows up as /dev/sdb how do i add it so that cinder list sees it? | 21:43 |
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| Qlawy | afm: what? Not quite sure if I understand you :( | 21:43 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: yeah, i considered running rhel/centos too for just a sec, and then decided to go with something more recent like fedora 19 ;) | 21:43 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: good choice ;) | 21:44 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: rhel/centos is such a pain in the ass :/ | 21:44 |
| afm | vgdisplay shows it as an lvm volume… i specified —cinder-backend=lvm when packstack'ing | 21:44 |
| Qlawy | afm: good | 21:44 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: are they *still* running the 2,x kernels ? | 21:44 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: yes they are | 21:44 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: :( | 21:45 |
| sviesusisalus | hi. is it possible to allow sshing to instance using simple password not public key ? | 21:45 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: still without feature important patches for | 21:45 |
| Qlawy | important feature* | 21:45 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: corporate 'stability' in releases is nice, but this is ridiculous | 21:46 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: it depends on image | 21:46 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: ok, guess i now need to google neutron namespaces | 21:46 |
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| Qlawy | lbalbalba: find out what namespace you have to use if you want to ping vm | 21:47 |
| sviesusisalus | Qlawy, its typical ubuntu image, i would like to enable this option during boot proces by default for every instance | 21:47 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: impossible | 21:47 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: typical image generates random password for user afair | 21:47 |
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| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: only change to log in is to use keys | 21:48 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: however there is something like "admin password" in xen hypervisor, but I have no idea what is it | 21:48 |
| sviesusisalus | Qlawy, so i need to ssh to instance and remove public key login ? | 21:48 |
| sviesusisalus | Qlawy, when creating instance it says me: adminPass V5bVYwQw8QH9, i gues that this is the password when the public key login is disabled | 21:49 |
| Jokke_ | sviesusisalus: should be able to set it in sshd_config | 21:50 |
| sviesusisalus | what if i make a snapshot with removed option ? :) | 21:51 |
| lbalbalba | ah. you need root / sudo in order to be allowed to run 'sudo ip netns exec foo bar' | 21:51 |
| lbalbalba | running " sudo ip netns exec qdhcp-504a811e-2049-4cc4-a9e9-93fef0bda071 ping 192.168.126.142 " | 21:52 |
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| lbalbalba | results in : " From 10.0.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable" | 21:52 |
| lbalbalba | sounds like a routing issue ? | 21:52 |
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| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: I thought same, but … it seems it does not work with KVM at least | 21:53 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: you want to login? Use keys and then change password… But I might be wrong | 21:53 |
| sviesusisalus | Qlawy, yes, you are right, but i dont want to try to automate this, because its tie consuming | 21:54 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: you can always create your "personal" image with features you want | 21:54 |
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| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: use cloud-init for setting root password - it is possible, im sure, we are using it | 21:55 |
| sviesusisalus | Qlawy, but this password will be the same for all instances created using this image ? | 21:55 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: there is short how to on openstack docs how to create an image by yourself | 21:56 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: with cloud-init setting password? Noo, why? | 21:56 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: perhaps it is possible to use that autogenerated one, which you pased (ofc every time its different password) | 21:56 |
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| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: or perhaps it can be passed to vm using metadata and then "used" by cloud-init for setting root password | 21:57 |
| Qlawy | sviesusisalus: you have a lot of posibilities | 21:57 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: routing issue on l2? | 21:58 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: first of all, check your vms log | 21:59 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: are you using cirros perhaps? Its best for testing | 21:59 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: Destination Host Unreachable, in physical land, means it cant find a route | 21:59 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: ill check the logs | 22:00 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: you are using KVM? | 22:00 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: qemu | 22:00 |
| Qlawy | crap! You have that crappy devstack :/ | 22:00 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: its fine for playing fopr now, until i get new hardware from santa | 22:00 |
| Qlawy | I have no idea where nova have hmm instance_dir in devstack, but in normal installation its /var/lib/nova/instances | 22:00 |
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| Qlawy | you need to find something like console.log | 22:01 |
| Qlawy | cirros creates nice logs with informations about IP address and so | 22:01 |
| Qlawy | you will be able to check if vm was even able to get IP (is it grammaticaly correct?) | 22:02 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: it got the ip. : nova console-log myvm: " Sending select for 10.0.0.3... Lease of 10.0.0.3 obtained, lease time 86400" | 22:03 |
| Qlawy | really nice :) | 22:04 |
| Qlawy | lbalbalba: now, plz do ip netns exec namespace_name_here ifconfig | 22:04 |
| Qlawy | and check in which namespace do you have 10.0.0.2 ip (its perhaps dhcp address in dhcp namespace) | 22:05 |
| Qlawy | and then try to ping | 22:05 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: do what with ip netns ? : http://fpaste.org/60017/38654040/ | 22:07 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: oh. cant ping 10.0.0.2 either | 22:07 |
| Qlawy | damn… Im affraid I cant help you :( Im not familiar with those namespaces yet :( | 22:08 |
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| lbalbalba | Qlawy: thats allright, you provided helpful learning so far. | 22:09 |
| Qlawy | :) | 22:09 |
| lbalbalba | Qlawy: so what guide for installing havanah would you recommend then, instead of using devstack ? | 22:10 |
| lbalbalba | i can find zillion of pages, but whats up to date and correct | 22:10 |
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| afm | there is no simple solution imho | 22:11 |
| afm | lots o parts | 22:12 |
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| lbalbalba | yeah, i can find zillions of parts allright ;) | 22:12 |
| lbalbalba | is why i decided to go with devstack untill i have the basics figured out | 22:12 |
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| Qlawy | let me paste you my favorite site about installing openstack with neutron | 22:13 |
| lbalbalba | cool | 22:13 |
| Qlawy | its about grizzly but works aswell with havana | 22:13 |
| lbalbalba | ok | 22:13 |
| lbalbalba | and quantum is neutron | 22:13 |
| lbalbalba | see ? im learning already | 22:13 |
| Qlawy | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide | 22:14 |
| Qlawy | yes it is ;) | 22:14 |
| Qlawy | you can use his script for automating keystone catalog population | 22:14 |
| lbalbalba | thanks, ill try that guide tommorow, then | 22:14 |
| Qlawy | Im not using it couse I have dumped database | 22:14 |
| lbalbalba | ah. that guide assumes you have 2 nics. i have 1 | 22:17 |
| Qlawy | its not important | 22:17 |
| lbalbalba | ok | 22:17 |
| Qlawy | just leave eth2 | 22:17 |
| Qlawy | its optional | 22:17 |
| lbalbalba | and it assumes ubuntu, but i can get that instead of fedora | 22:17 |
| lbalbalba | ah. cool | 22:17 |
| Qlawy | I used it in rhel | 22:18 |
| lbalbalba | 'optional' is good | 22:18 |
| lbalbalba | kay | 22:18 |
| lbalbalba | guess its just apt-get vs yum | 22:18 |
| Qlawy | almost | 22:18 |
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| Qlawy | sometime some differences in package names but config files are same | 22:19 |
| Qlawy | ok, its time to sleep | 22:19 |
| lbalbalba | yeah, and maybe the network config files, if you need to change those | 22:19 |
| Qlawy | cu and gl :) | 22:19 |
| lbalbalba | see ya later, and thanks ! | 22:19 |
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| Qlawy | what you want to know is: if you want for example 10.0.0.0/something for vms but you are using for example 192.168.1.0/24 on your eth0? No problem! Just type local_ip in neutrons plugin.ini for 192.168.... | 22:20 |
| Qlawy | and create subnet with 10.0.0.0... it will work ;) | 22:20 |
| Qlawy | ok, cu | 22:21 |
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| lbalbalba | ok i have no idea what you just said there, but... you gotta get some sleep now ;) | 22:22 |
| lbalbalba | me too, btw ;) | 22:22 |
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| lbalbalba | man this is has got to be the quitest irc channel ive ever seen. everyone has gone to sleep ;) | 23:12 |
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| e-vad | or wandered off | 23:13 |
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| lbalbalba | yeah | 23:13 |
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| lbalbalba | so... im pretty muich an openstack newbee, eager to learn. how bout you ? | 23:15 |
| e-vad | not sure what i'd consider myself | 23:16 |
| e-vad | forever a noob or so | 23:16 |
| lbalbalba | ;) | 23:16 |
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| lbalbalba | you running openstack somehwere somehow now ? im just playing on my home desktop | 23:16 |
| * lbalbalba wishes he still had his ict job | 23:17 | |
| e-vad | that's mostly where my playing happens to, the group i'm with at work has a few small clusters that we build/rebuild as part of some ongoing validation / etsting | 23:17 |
| lbalbalba | sounds like a nice job | 23:18 |
| e-vad | currently, i'm validating my scripts / slides for a podcast on tuesday | 23:18 |
| lbalbalba | a podcast on openstack ? link , please ;) | 23:18 |
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| e-vad | http://openstack.prov12n.com and look for 'about couch to openstack' | 23:19 |
| lbalbalba | reading | 23:20 |
| Jokke_ | I'm noob ... trying to learn ans figure out specially the swift and glance parts of it | 23:20 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: cool. what are you looking to do? any questions so far? | 23:21 |
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| lbalbalba | e-vad: cool. sounds like a really heavy piece of work! minor note 'thar be dragons here' should be spelled as 'there be dragons here' | 23:21 |
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| e-vad | heh | 23:22 |
| e-vad | that's the first round, we completed those a while ago | 23:22 |
| e-vad | we're kicking off round two this week | 23:22 |
| lbalbalba | cool | 23:22 |
| e-vad | going from the "i build an openstack" to a "now what" | 23:22 |
| e-vad | or so | 23:22 |
| lbalbalba | yes. after you have it installed... now whatta you gonna do with it ? | 23:23 |
| lbalbalba | Jokke_: whats interesting about glance and swift ? | 23:23 |
| e-vad | it's still fairly heavily operator focused (tie this to ldap, set up permissions) | 23:24 |
| lbalbalba | notmyname: you a noob too ? or a wizzard ? | 23:24 |
| notmyname | somewhere in between :-) | 23:24 |
| lbalbalba | e-vad: i used to be an operator, i like it like that ;) | 23:24 |
| lbalbalba | notmyname: im hoping to advabce to that level anytime soon now | 23:25 |
| lbalbalba | advance | 23:26 |
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| notmyname | do you know about the #openstack-101 channel? it's set up specifically for people who want to ask intro questions. (although, I think it's perfectly ok to ask in here too) | 23:27 |
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| Jokke_ | lbalbalba: I'm hoping to have an offer in my hands next week to work with those ;) | 23:27 |
| lbalbalba | notmyname: whoah ! there's an #openstack-101 channel ? im gonna go theree next, thanks ! | 23:28 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: I can help out with swift stuff. any questions right now? | 23:29 |
| lbalbalba | Jokke_: you got an openstack job offer ? cool | 23:29 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: I'm trying to wrap my head around it really. Have a devstack running on my kvm host and just going through the sources etc. Nothing specific yet ... have been crawling through it just over week now | 23:29 |
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| notmyname | Jokke_: are you interested in contributing to swift or just as a consumer? | 23:29 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: contributing | 23:30 |
| Jokke_ | as well | 23:30 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: awesome! I can point you to a few things | 23:30 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: link dump incoming.... | 23:31 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: cool, Thanks! | 23:32 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: I wrote this a while back for people such as you http://swiftstack.com/blog/2013/02/12/swift-for-new-contributors/ | 23:32 |
| e-vad | notmyname: that'd be handy as a blog post actually | 23:32 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: the starting point for dev documentation is http://swift.openstack.org | 23:32 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: on there, as a contributor you need a Swift All In One (SAIO). The docs are at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html (and feel free to ignore--for now--devstack as it relates to swift) | 23:33 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: there was one thing I'd like to understand though ... can't find the exact doc right now but it's regarding the rings. The document was bit confusing if it was talking about ring replicas or object replicas | 23:33 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: and I wrote up some of the high-level goals over the next months for swift recently. it's at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/019919.html | 23:33 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: I can help you grok the rings. where are you in your understanding right now? | 23:34 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: so is swift using ring replicas at all and if it is, how does it avoid collisions in object replicas? | 23:34 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: also, all swift contributors hang out and discuss stuff in #openstack-swifg | 23:34 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: also, all swift contributors hang out and discuss stuff in #openstack-swift | 23:34 |
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| Jokke_ | notmyname:as I have understood that these hashing rings tend to have the hits clustering to certain areas of the ring | 23:35 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: how familiar are you with consistent hashing? and have you read the dynamo paper? | 23:35 |
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| notmyname | nope, we don't (or we work around that) | 23:35 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: Ok, so all references to replicas means object replicas | 23:36 |
| Jokke_ | ? | 23:36 |
| notmyname | yes | 23:36 |
| Jokke_ | cool, that clarifies a lot | 23:36 |
| notmyname | http://swiftstack.com/openstack-swift/ has a lot of great links on it | 23:36 |
| notmyname | and http://swiftstack.com/openstack-swift/architecture/ is a good overview of the design of the system (with pictures) | 23:37 |
| notmyname | http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/11/21/how-the-ring-works-in-openstack-swift/ is a long video about how the ring works | 23:37 |
| notmyname | but I'm happy to talk about it here if you want an overview or have specific questions | 23:38 |
| Jokke_ | notmyname: Thanks, again ... I think my bookmarks regarding swift just doubled if not more ;) lots of cool reading. I've been reading through the docs.openstack.org/developer/swift and looking to the sources | 23:38 |
| notmyname | great | 23:38 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: I'm the PTL for swift, so feel free to ask me any questions you have | 23:38 |
| lbalbalba | PTL ? | 23:38 |
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| Jokke_ | notmyname: oh cool ... I've seen some of your talks from the youtube ... helped a lot to understand | 23:39 |
| notmyname | "project technical lead". every openstack project has one, elected every 6 months | 23:39 |
| lbalbalba | kay | 23:40 |
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| notmyname | Jokke_: glad to hear it was helpful. thanks | 23:41 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: what time zone are you in? | 23:41 |
| Jokke_ | GMT | 23:41 |
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| notmyname | great. we already have some swift contributors in Ireland (HP) and France (eNovance), so you'll have company when you're awake ;-) | 23:43 |
| Jokke_ | lbalbalba: as said I'm hoping to get that offer early next week ... looked promising, but my current manager was on holidays last week so there is some bureaucrazy to sort out first | 23:43 |
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| Jokke_ | notmyname: ok to PM you? | 23:43 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: sure, but if you have general questions, I prefer that you keep them in the open so that everyone can benefit | 23:44 |
| Jokke_ | ofc | 23:44 |
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| lbalbalba | aahhh... and off they go.... | 23:47 |
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| Jokke_ | notmyname: I'll go through those links you gave me and will come back to you if I need some clarification later on. | 23:51 |
| notmyname | Jokke_: great | 23:51 |
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