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| pgrace | I setup a new openstack all-in-one host and now I'm trying to setup networking. I found a tutorial on the RDO site showing neutron commands to make a private and public network, but that tutorial doesn't show the command to add my ethernet device to the bridge. What's the proper openstack-y way to make persistent bridge members? | 00:46 |
| pgrace | is there a real "idiots guide to openstack networking" hidden somewhere that might shed some light on tasks like this? | 00:47 |
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| larsks | pgrace: There's no single good guide right now. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them. | 01:28 |
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| larsks | ...if you're around sometime in the next 20 minutes or so :) | 01:30 |
| Chr1z | Can I add openstack to a XenServer pool after VMs have been added and running on the XenServer hosts or is it something that must have been done initially before any VMs existed? | 01:30 |
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| larsks | Chr1z: I'm not familiar with Xen...but in general, you can add openstack to an existing virtualization environment, even if you already have instances running. It's less complicated if OpenStack "owns" everything, but it's not a requirement. | 01:31 |
| Chr1z | larsks: anyway to get openstack to own the instances once it's installed so it can manage them or must they be removed/re-created to do that? | 01:32 |
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| larsks | They must be instantiated via openstack in order to manage them with openstack. | 01:32 |
| vu | larsks: I am interested in openstack on KVM exclusively. Whats a good starting link? | 01:34 |
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| larsks | vu: Sort of depends on what you're planning to do with it and how you're planning on deploying it. If you're just testing things out, using "devstack" (http://devstack.org/) is a good place to start, and works for most major distributions. | 01:36 |
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| larsks | The openstack.org website has installation documentation at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/ (RHEL/CentOS/Fedora) and http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ (Ubuntu). | 01:36 |
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| vu | larsks: As opposed to? | 01:40 |
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| vu | Ok so there are various deployment scenarios. | 01:41 |
| larsks | Yes. And various tools to help you automate the process. | 01:41 |
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| vu | Like hybrid? | 01:41 |
| vu | Can you name a few scenarios? | 01:42 |
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| larsks | I'm referring to particular scenarios, as much as I'm referring to your choice of distribution and deployment *mechanism*. | 01:42 |
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| larsks | Errr, I'm *not* referring to...is what that should say. | 01:43 |
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| vu | choice of distribution? | 01:43 |
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| larsks | RHEL/Fedora/Ubuntu/SLES/etc. | 01:44 |
| vu | oh Linux distros :-) | 01:45 |
| larsks | Yes. How you install the openstack components and exactly how auxiliary things work (like network and firewall configuration) will differ between them. | 01:45 |
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| vu | What do you use in your lab for secondary storage? | 01:45 |
| larsks | My "lab", right now, is a laptop with a chunk of memory. So my secondary storage...is *also* my hard drive. | 01:46 |
| vu | hehe cool | 01:46 |
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| vu | But to get the right feel I was planning on setting up a FreeNAS laptop as secondary storage | 01:47 |
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| larsks | How exactly do you define "secondary storage"? OpenStack provides block storage via Cinder and object storage via Swift, neither of which I think will run under FreeNAS (which I believe is a FreeBSD based apliance). | 01:49 |
| vu | Aha ok | 01:50 |
| vu | secondary storage is like S3 | 01:50 |
| vu | or EBS | 01:50 |
| larsks | That would be "swift" in OpenStack. Whereas "Cinder" is the EBS equivalent. | 01:51 |
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| vu | I have a long way to go ....uf | 01:54 |
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| vu | deployment *mechanism* are? | 01:56 |
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| larsks | Well, there's devstack, which will get you a test environment but isn't really suitable for production deployment. On RHEL/Fedora (and derivatives), there's packstack, and also some recent work on using foreman to manage the deployment process. | 01:56 |
| larsks | There may be other stuff on the Ubuntu side of things but I have less experience there. | 01:57 |
| larsks | And of course you can do it all by hand :). | 01:57 |
| vu | Like orchestration or not? | 01:57 |
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| vu | Ok I get it its more deploying the IaaS platform | 01:58 |
| vu | Getting it up and running | 01:58 |
| larsks | Tools for deploying *openstack*, yes. As opposed for tools to deploying *instances* on top of openstack. | 01:58 |
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| vu | Alright | 01:58 |
| vu | Interesting | 01:58 |
| vu | I use CentOS mainly so I will give packstack a shot | 02:00 |
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| vu | Agh puppet..would have preferred chef but... | 02:01 |
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| larsks | There are probably chef recipes out there for deploying openstack, too. | 02:02 |
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| vu | Will need to check that | 02:02 |
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| vu | Does openstack fit equally well all the major hypervisors Xen, KVM or vmware | 02:04 |
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| larsks | It has support for all of the above. I think most development work (and probably the majority of deployments) is on KVM. Beyond that, I can't say. | 02:05 |
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| vu | I like that | 02:06 |
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| vu | So you have a whole small openstack cloud running on your laptop..and you can spin up images and all? I am not concerned about speed and performance just core functionality. | 02:10 |
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| larsks | I have 16 GB of RAM, which is enough for a small multinode deployment, as long as I keep the instances small. | 02:11 |
| vu | Sure | 02:11 |
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| vu | Thanks for your input getting later over here...bye! | 02:12 |
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| pgrace | larsks: thanks for the offer of help. I think I went and made things worse. | 02:21 |
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| lkthomas | sup all | 02:41 |
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| lkthomas | so 2014 summit will be in Paris or US ? | 02:41 |
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| dims | lkthomas, i believe next one is in Atlanta. the one after that is in Paris | 02:46 |
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| lkthomas | dims: that's what I heard too, that would be 2015 in Paris then | 02:47 |
| lkthomas | I need to plan my trip, so | 02:47 |
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| clarkb | may 2014 atlanta. november 2014 paris | 02:48 |
| lkthomas | I don't understand why no news on openstack site | 02:49 |
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| dims | lkthomas, | 02:49 |
| dims | May 12-16, 2014 (Atlanta) | 02:49 |
| lkthomas | dims: where did you get that information from ? | 02:50 |
| dims | October/November 2014 (Paris) | 02:50 |
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| dims | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseFutureDesignSummits | 02:50 |
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| lkthomas | thanks, twice per year is a lot | 02:56 |
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| joh4n_r4j | I have Problem when create instance : | 04:12 |
| joh4n_r4j | root@compute1:~# nova boot --flavor 1 --key_name mykey --image 22898606-d92a-44d4-8238-5de56598f5be --security_group default cirrOS | 04:12 |
| joh4n_r4j | ERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='controller', port=8774): Request timed out. (timeout=600.0 ) | 04:12 |
| joh4n_r4j | any one can hel me ? | 04:13 |
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| lkthomas | hey guys | 06:31 |
| lkthomas | I am trying to setup openstack in my lab | 06:31 |
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| lkthomas | how many VM do I need to build a complete environment of openstack ? | 06:32 |
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| rushiagr | lkthomas: for the openstack environment, you can do all of it on your personal computer itself (or in one VM) | 06:35 |
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| rushiagr | lkthomas: there is no need for additional VM creation for setting up openstack (assuming you are starting with a development environment, and not production) | 06:35 |
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| lkthomas | rushiagr: if I want to run only virtualization envionrment on openstack, which component should I need ? | 06:54 |
| lkthomas | or is it all standard and have to install the whole package ? | 06:54 |
| rushiagr | lkthomas: there is a project-ish thing called devstack, which sets up a dev environment for you with a single simple command. It will give you a minimal openstack cloud on your machine/VM | 06:55 |
| lkthomas | errr, I perfer more on production like setup as I am trying to learn how to deploy on production situation | 06:56 |
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| rushiagr | lkthomas: then docs.openstack.org is your friend | 07:17 |
| rushiagr | lkthomas: a production openstack environment is deployed on physical machines, not inside VMs. So all the important services run in the base OS | 07:17 |
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| lkthomas | rushiagr: I am confused if I need all parts to get openstack running or not | 07:18 |
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| rushiagr | lkthomas: what exactly are your requirements? | 07:19 |
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| lkthomas | rushiagr: running openstack as managed virtualization environment | 07:19 |
| lkthomas | rushiagr: think about AWS EC2 | 07:19 |
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| rushiagr | lkthomas: OK. So you will definitely need to install Nova, Glance, Keystone, most possibly Cinder too | 07:20 |
| lkthomas | okie | 07:21 |
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| fangkui | Beau terrain de la Grande Muraille s'étend dans le nord, comme une longue file d'attente en général, donnant profondément choqué | 07:32 |
| fangkui | æ³•è¯ | 07:32 |
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| joh4n_r4j | Expecting an auth URL via either --os-auth-url or env[OS_AUTH_URL] | 09:11 |
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| fallen_ | guys i would like to setup ubuntu server hyperscale on my 2 laptops at home to form a cluster ..... any help is appriciated | 09:42 |
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| fallen_ | how to install open stack on my laptop | 09:44 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | openstack? laptop? devstack? | 09:45 |
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| stan_ivanov | Hi guys, how can I send data/instructions to an instance not directly via ssh, but through some openstack component? | 09:51 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | BobBall: is the VIF isolation mentioned at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/plugins/xenserver/doc/networking.rst required under xenserver 6.2? I found contrary opinions on the internet | 12:50 |
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| stan_ivanov | How can I proxy between the public network and the private compute host network? | 12:54 |
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| sergmelikyan | Does IceHouse have release schedule? | 12:57 |
| sergmelikyan | I could not found page simular to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule but with schedule for IceHouse | 12:57 |
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| sergmelikyan | If release schedule is already published, can someone share link? | 12:59 |
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| thorfinn | Someone can help me? I have a problem with swift and X-Container-Read | 13:50 |
| thorfinn | ? | 13:50 |
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| larsbutler | hey there, I'm running through the OpenStack installation tutorial and I'm getting stuck on this step: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/glance-verify.html | 14:17 |
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| larsbutler | whenever I try to do any glance operations, I get "Error communicating with <host> [Errno 110] Connection timed out" | 14:18 |
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| larsbutler | I don't see anything relevant in the keystone or glance logs | 14:18 |
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| larsbutler | any idea what I'm doing wrong? | 14:18 |
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| drazyl | check the services are running and no firewall getting in the way? | 14:20 |
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| larsbutler | drazyl: There is a firewall on the box. I've already opened ports 35357 and 9292 | 14:25 |
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| larsbutler | and 5000 as well | 14:25 |
| larsbutler | hmmm, maybe 5000 isn't open | 14:26 |
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| larsbutler | I don't have access to the firewall rules yet, so… I'll double check that. Are there any other ports that should be open just for keystone and glance? | 14:26 |
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| dachary | what is the easiest way to move an openstack instance from one openstack provider to another openstack provider ( rackspace -> hpcloud etc.. ) ? | 14:33 |
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| sc68cal | dachary: snapshot the instance, upload it via glance to the new provider | 14:36 |
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| dachary | sc68cal: is there a way to tell glance to upload an image to another provider ? Or should it be downloaded from the old first and then uploaded to the new ? | 14:37 |
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| sc68cal | dachary: the latter | 14:38 |
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| dachary | sc68cal: thanks, that's simple enough ;-) | 14:39 |
| sc68cal | I think there's some CLI fu that you can do for glance where you can use a URL and glance will download it | 14:39 |
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| sc68cal | but I don't know if it is smart enough to contact another glance instance on your behalf | 14:40 |
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| dachary | it would save some bandwidth | 14:41 |
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| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: Not sure what you mean | 14:57 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I am in the process of manually installing openstack on my local xenserver test server (in VMWare Fusion) and on the "xen for openstack" xen-wiki-page it is written that I should do this VIF isolation stuff. it sets iptables on instances to not see each other | 14:59 |
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| BobBall | Having some isolation is best practice - it prevents a guest from being able to spoof another guest | 15:00 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | exactly. but the instructions were for xenserver 5.6 and very vague | 15:00 |
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| BobBall | If you're using XS 6.2 then you don't need to install anything extra - but you do need to set up the host-rules thing and make changes to the vif script etc | 15:02 |
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| BobBall | I think | 15:02 |
| BobBall | or you can try using security groups - but I'm aware there are issues around them at the moment | 15:02 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ok, then I just move this to later :) | 15:04 |
| BobBall | See https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1248859 | 15:04 |
| BobBall | sounds fine to me :) | 15:04 |
| BobBall | It's not strictly needed - but definitely is best practice - and can easily be bolted on later | 15:04 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | and another thing that I wrote down as question to you: is this formatting of the local storage to ext3 on xenserver for openstack necessary? | 15:05 |
| BobBall | Yes | 15:05 |
| BobBall | The long answer is no - but some features won't work with LVM storage; so EXT3 or NFS storage is required for the simplest setups | 15:06 |
| SebastianKreutzb | so I would need to reformat our massive production nfs storage which is used to give storage to the instances? | 15:06 |
| BobBall | ah, no. That's talking about local storage only | 15:06 |
| BobBall | If you're using an NFS SR then that's OK | 15:06 |
| BobBall | Local storage needs to be ext3 rather than LVM | 15:06 |
| SebastianKreutzb | in the local storage I put the ISOs, right? | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | ISOs go into an ISO SR ;) I was meaning the local storage for VMs | 15:08 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ah okay. even if it’s a network mounted storage it is called local storage. okay, got it :) | 15:09 |
| BobBall | no | 15:09 |
| BobBall | hehehe | 15:10 |
| BobBall | I might be confusing things | 15:10 |
| BobBall | Local storage = backed by a device on the hypervisor | 15:10 |
| BobBall | SR = local or network Storage Repository | 15:10 |
| BobBall | If you're using local storage with OpenStack, use EXT3 not LVM | 15:10 |
| BobBall | if you're using remote storage, use NFS | 15:11 |
| BobBall | they are the easy ways to go | 15:11 |
| thorfinn | Someone can help me? I have a problem with swift and X-Container-Read | 15:11 |
| thorfinn | ? | 15:11 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ok. I think I properly setup the xenserver now and start now a ubuntu.iso as PV | 15:11 |
| BobBall | For ISOs, I'd put them on a remote NFS mount | 15:11 |
| BobBall | fab :) | 15:11 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ok | 15:11 |
| SebastianKreutzb | oh and think I will try on production to right away use our xenserver pool - even if it means that I maybe get 3 gray hairs by setting up openstack on a xenserver pool | 15:12 |
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| bigmstone | BobBall: been MIA for a while. Was curious where OpenStack is with Xenserver pools. Still running with the Citrix OpenStack repo? | 15:13 |
| BobBall | hehe | 15:13 |
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| bigmstone | I've been MIA, that is. | 15:14 |
| BobBall | I'm afraid you'll get more than grey hairs there SebastianKreutzb - if the pool has already been setup then I'm not sure you will get it to work at all | 15:14 |
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| BobBall | bigmstone: I think it's working at the moment - but I haven't tested it in the last few weeks and I know there was a patch that went in that might affect it... Our next step is to get some pool-based tests up so it can't be broken in future. | 15:15 |
| SebastianKreutzb | BobBall: :o | 15:15 |
| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: Take your hosts and split them out from the pool | 15:15 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ok | 15:15 |
| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: use pool-eject and they will become independent | 15:15 |
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| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: from the master use pool-eject on each of the slave hosts; they will reboot and then things will be peachy. | 15:16 |
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| bigmstone | BobBall: I've been having to do stuff that pays the bills lately (go figure) but once I get some time to focus on it I'd like to. Still one of those features I hope stays with OpenStack. | 15:16 |
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| BobBall | bigmstone: Long term plan is to re-structure it to fit with cells (I think) rather than being based on aggregates | 15:17 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | BobBall: I somehow just can SSH to the Master Xenserver?! But I can access xsconsole there. | 15:17 |
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| bigmstone | BobBall: which makes sense. In the end it will still be a Xenserver pool which is all that matters to me from a XenDesktop perspective. | 15:18 |
| BobBall | yes bigmstone | 15:19 |
| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: weird! | 15:19 |
| bigmstone | Being able to unify my server and desktop compute nodes is a big plus in lowering complexity. | 15:19 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | think I need to yell at the data center guys ... | 15:19 |
| bigmstone | Weather or not it makes sense remains to be seen. :P | 15:20 |
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| exed | are there some issues with static routes aka host routes in grizzly/quantum known? | 15:21 |
| lkthomas | this channel start to become alive after summit | 15:21 |
| BobBall | Well, I've not done any testing on that... Nova expects to own the whole hypervisor - there might be some weird things in there that cause issues later on | 15:21 |
| lkthomas | looks like most of you guys back home now | 15:21 |
| bigmstone | BobBall: but it also checks for resource availability doesn't it? You might be right it's just one of those things that have to be tested. | 15:22 |
| BobBall | yes bigmstone both of them do | 15:22 |
| BobBall | I can't think off-hand of any problems that'd happen | 15:22 |
| BobBall | it _should_ work - Nova queries XAPI for resource availability etc | 15:23 |
| bigmstone | Yeah. Will happen in the lab before it goes into production. If it ever does. | 15:23 |
| BobBall | so it doesn't make assumptions about what it can do | 15:23 |
| BobBall | but I can't promise it will work :D | 15:23 |
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| bigmstone | Haha! | 15:24 |
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| lkthomas | guys, if I want to use openstack as hypervisor orchestrator, do I have to run swift or cinder ? | 15:24 |
| bigmstone | Trust the software. Trust the software. Trust the software...yeah I still can't convince myself. | 15:24 |
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| larsks | lkthomas: You do not need to run swift or cinder if you are not making use of those services. | 15:27 |
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| lkthomas | larsks: for example, if I run on LVM, it should work out of the box then ? | 15:28 |
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| larsks | I'm not sure exactly what you're asking there. I guess the best answer is that whether or not you're using LVM isn't particularly relevant. | 15:30 |
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| larsks | Also, "work out of the box" depends on what you're trying to do with it. For example, without cinder you won't have a good way to attach persistent storage to your instances...and you might actually want that. | 15:30 |
| annegentle | for someone who was asking about the Icehouse release schedule, see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/018713.html | 15:30 |
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| lkthomas | larsks: I wouldn't have a good way or I don't have a way to attach storage at all on openstack ? | 15:34 |
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| annegentle | lkthomas: some storage considerations for instances are in http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/compute_nodes.html | 15:36 |
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| larsks | Don't know if this was posted here yet, but all the OpenStack summit talks are now online: http://www.youtube.com/user/OpenStackFoundation/videos | 15:38 |
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| lkthomas | annegentle: a little bit confusing, "If you want to support shared storage live migration", does it means if I don't need live migration, I could use something else ? | 15:38 |
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| larsks | lkthomas: You could certainly attach storage by hand, but it would be a lot more clunky than doing it via the standard openstack mechanisms. | 15:39 |
| larsks | lkthomas: If you don't need live migration, you don't need shared storage. | 15:40 |
| exed | could anybody verify that host_routes in quantum/grizzly not working? | 15:40 |
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| lkthomas | I see | 15:40 |
| lkthomas | larsks: better use standard way :P | 15:40 |
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| annegentle | lkthomas: what larsks said | 15:41 |
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| lkthomas | annegentle: I will test the shared storage first :) thanks | 15:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | morning folks | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: hi! | 15:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: thanks for getting to all those doc bugs so quickly | 15:58 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: :) | 15:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | think i filed over a dozen or so now... | 15:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | more sitting in the queue once i run through the entire install doc again | 15:59 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | BobBall: I have now a Ubuntu PV VM at the xenserver. what network setup should that openstack cloud controller have? currently its eth0 is an IP given by the DHCP server and a loopback interface. | 16:15 |
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| tester155 | anyone here used the vCenter driver for openstack? | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | not yet, only seen it in a demo | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | but... soon! | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so many things to do here... | 16:17 |
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| Gamekiller77 | has any one seen a problem with a tenant missing when trying to create networks in neutron in havana | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | howso? | 16:27 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i keep getting unable to create network because no tenant | 16:34 |
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| sgran | can you pastebin the actual stacktrace? It will be clearer than your paraphrasing | 16:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah getting there | 16:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i will later today i working on upgrade of Ceph cluster to get glance and cinder going after grizzly to havana upgrade | 16:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | the general error is this Error: Failed to create network "test01": 503-{u'NeutronError': {u'message': u'Unable to create the network. No tenant network is available for allocation.', u'type': u'NoNetworkAvailable', u'detail': u''}} | 16:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/52072/ | 16:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | that the logs i see in dash | 16:40 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i see no erros in neutron log | 16:42 |
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| sgran | right, so that's not, 'no tenant', that's 'no tenant network' | 16:52 |
| sgran | are you over quota? | 16:52 |
| sgran | are you out of vlans? | 16:52 |
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| stevem | Is it possible to tie a tennant to a group of compute nodes? | 17:06 |
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| stevem | so that i can segragate my tennants on dedicated compute nodes | 17:06 |
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| sgran | stevem: you could write a scheduler class | 17:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | moar bug reports | 18:44 |
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| ppradhan | I am seeing "neutron-dhcp-agent main process ended, respawning" . where do i debug. dnsmasq is running | 18:54 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | ppradhan: First place should be /var/log/neutron/dhcp-agent.log. | 19:14 |
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| Alan-1 | Does anyone know how I can get a google api that is associated with a google PAGE (not a google personal profile)? | 19:15 |
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| ppradhan | CaptainTacoSauce: I uncommented interface_driver = neutron.agent.linux.interface.OVSInterfaceDriver frm dhcp-agent.ini and its gone. | 19:20 |
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| ppradhan | CaptainTacoSauce: my instance got an ip but it doesnot reach the internet.. This is havana | 19:20 |
| ppradhan | acutall it doesnot reach the metadata service saying: wget: can't connect to remote host (169.254.169.254): No route to host | 19:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: filed another half dozen or so bugs today | 19:48 |
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| Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: again to docs? | 19:49 |
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| Qlawy | ppradhan: do you have all-in-one installation? | 19:49 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: heh, triaging doc bugs now | 19:50 |
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| Qlawy | ppradhan: I was trying to find out how to cooperate with neutron-metadata-agent but finally I failed | 19:50 |
| Qlawy | ppradhan: and created some iptables rule to forward packages | 19:50 |
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| Qlawy | ppradhan: tomorrow I can paste it for you | 19:51 |
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| ppradhan | Qlawy: yes all-in-one to start with | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: all of my bugs are to docs so far | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think... | 19:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least i can't remember any others | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably approaching 2 dozen or more now | 19:53 |
| Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: nice :) | 19:53 |
| Qlawy | ppradhan: hah! :D I know it ;) | 19:53 |
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| ppradhan | Qlawy: :) | 19:53 |
| Qlawy | ppradhan: I added 169.254.169.254 IP to one of interfaces, perhaps eth0 or so, and added iptables rule to nat table to forward queries from 80 to 8775 | 19:54 |
| ppradhan | Qlawy: can you share your dhcp-agent.init? | 19:54 |
| Qlawy | and it worked | 19:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: i'm ionosphere80 on launchpad | 19:54 |
| Qlawy | ppradhan: not now, im at home ;) | 19:54 |
| ppradhan | Qlawy: ok no. I will ask tomorrow | 19:54 |
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| Qlawy | ppradhan: ask in about 12h | 19:54 |
| Qlawy | ppradhan: I should be at work at that time | 19:55 |
| ppradhan | Qlawy: ok | 19:55 |
| Qlawy | sometime I think my english is crappy ;/ | 19:55 |
| Qlawy | or maybe grammar | 19:55 |
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| steve_ipc | I'm running an instance, and I can wget http://google and https://google.com, I can download apt repos, but when I try to wget github or other URLs my instance just hangs | 20:15 |
| steve_ipc | wget hangs at 'HTTP request sent, awaiting response..' | 20:15 |
| steve_ipc | anyone seen something like this before? Its not a security group issue, because my protocols are wide open | 20:15 |
| rgodinez | ping | 20:15 |
| sgran | rgodinez: pong | 20:15 |
| rgodinez | :-) | 20:15 |
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| sgran | steve_ipc: on the network node, do a tcpdump and see if you can see the traffic | 20:16 |
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| sgran | rgodinez: I don't know the details of the problem you're having | 20:17 |
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| Porys | hi all | 20:22 |
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| rgodinez | sgran: 1 controller, 5 nodes. Grizzly RHOS 3.0 + heat 2013.1.4 from EPEL (RDO). Created OSE stack using heat templates in git, but instances are giving errors during cloud-init process because cannot get to http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id or http://172.16.16.2/latest/meta-data/instance-id | 20:22 |
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| sgran | can you pastebin the following: | 20:24 |
| sgran | the output of `ip r` on an instance | 20:24 |
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| rgodinez | sgran: quantum defined networks, public with internet access: controller has 1 nic in public, and instances get a floating IP there | 20:24 |
| sgran | neutron metadata server? | 20:24 |
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| sgran | neutron router? | 20:24 |
| rgodinez | unfortunately I'm now out of the customer site, but maybe I can reproduce it in our lab | 20:24 |
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| sgran | the other thing that will be useful will be, on the network node, the output of `ip netns exec <namespace for metadata server> ip a ; ip netns exec <namespace for metadata server> ip r` | 20:25 |
| mdorman | could someone help me translate this code in nova/cmd/spicehtml5proxy.py to where this config item is in nova.conf? CONF.import_opt('daemon', 'nova.cmd.novnc') | 20:25 |
| sgran | repeat for the namespace for the router, if you're using quantum routers | 20:26 |
| mdorman | would that be daemon= under a [novnc] section? | 20:26 |
| sgran | in the [daemon] block ? | 20:26 |
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| sgran | or yes, that | 20:26 |
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| rgodinez | sgran, I'll do and come back to you. Any pointer to docs related to metadata server and neutron namespaces configuration? | 20:27 |
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| sgran | there is an openstack network admin guide | 20:27 |
| sgran | it comes highly recommended | 20:27 |
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| sgran | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/index.html | 20:27 |
| mdorman | ok, i have a bunch of stuff under [novnc] but it's not picking up any of the options | 20:28 |
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| rgodinez | sgran, tnx | 20:28 |
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| tester155_ | is it possible for a compute node to manage a controller node? | 20:29 |
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| sgran | mdorman: try in [DEFAULT] | 20:30 |
| sgran | I don't see a group=novnc option | 20:30 |
| tester155_ | Openstack Controller1 -> Openstack Compute1 -> Openstack Controller2 | 20:30 |
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| sgran | tester155_: that doesn't make any sense. I'll try to help if you can elaborate on what you're trying to do | 20:33 |
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| tester155_ | sgran: I have more than 1 separate Openstack instances setup and I was just wondering if I can make 1 as like the master controller and control all of them | 20:35 |
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| sgran | there is a thing called 'cells' that might do what I think you want to do | 20:40 |
| mdorman | sgran: that did the trick. thanks. | 20:40 |
| sgran | you might have a look at that | 20:40 |
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| steve_ipc | sgran: Sorry for the delay, was learning how to use tcpdump.. I followed the instructions here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/tcpdump.html | 20:48 |
| steve_ipc | And i got similar expected outputs | 20:48 |
| steve_ipc | It seems like internet connectivity is there, but it appears to be intermittent | 20:49 |
| tester155_ | maybe you're 2 machines are using the same IP address? | 20:49 |
| tester155_ | opps omit the 'you're' | 20:50 |
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| steve_ipc | sgran: As an example when I try to pull a raw file down from https://raw.github.com/iPlantCollaborativeOpenSource/atmosphere/master/README.md using wget, it will say 'connecting to … connected.' and then hang indefinitely (It never comes back.. I've waited) | 20:54 |
| steve_ipc | however if i use the command 'links' to pull the same raw file | 20:54 |
| steve_ipc | about 1/3 the time it works | 20:54 |
| steve_ipc | other times it gets stuck in 'SSL negotiation' | 20:54 |
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| pscheie | I'm running grizzly. I've created a bunch of security groups. When I run nova boot, I'm getting an error saying security group not found. | 20:57 |
| pscheie | But if I run nova secgroup-list, the specified security group is there. | 20:57 |
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| cihhan | Hi all! I am trying to build OpenStack for one machine to test it. everything seems fine. I have CirrOS running and I can connect to it. However, when I try to add another VM (Ubuntu), I cannot login and ssh to it. Any suggestions pls? | 21:02 |
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| pscheie | It's working fine under a different tenant environment. | 21:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cihhan: did you use the ubuntu cloud image? | 21:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | cihhan: if so, you need to assign a keypair when you launch it | 21:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there is no username/password by default | 21:24 |
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| gregmark | Folks: is there are nova command that can clear a VM with vm_state error? Or is a DB edit necessary? | 21:26 |
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| larsks | gregmark: You should be able to "nova delete" the vm to get rid of it. | 21:26 |
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| gregmark | larsks, I know, but the VM is back up and I want to keep it. | 21:27 |
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| larsks | gregmark: You can try "nova reset-state --active " | 21:27 |
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| gregmark | thanks | 21:27 |
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| rgodinez | sgran: ip netns only gives me 2 namespaces qrouter-xxx and qdhcp-xxx , how should metadata server namespace look like? | 21:31 |
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| larsks | rgodinez: access to the metadata server is via NAT rules in the qrouter namespace. | 21:36 |
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| larsks | If you run "ip netns exec qrouterXXX iptables -t nat -S" you should see a rule like: -A neutron-l3-agent-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9697 | 21:37 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: let's see... | 21:38 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: it gives: -A quantum-l3-agent-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9697 | 21:40 |
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| larsks | Yeah, that's fine. That's the quantum version of the same rule. | 21:41 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: instances are giving errors during cloud-init process because cannot get to http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id or http://172.16.16.2/latest/meta-data/instance-id | 21:42 |
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| larsks | Ignoring cloud-init for a moment: when an instance boots, does it otherwise have functional networking? That is, is it getting an ip address via dhcp and does it have outbound network access? | 21:43 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: yes | 21:44 |
| larsks | When you run "ip route" on the instance, does the address for the default gateway match the address of the quantum router? | 21:45 |
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| larsks | That should be the .1 address of your network, and you can see it by running "ip netns exec qrouter... ip addr" and looking at the results. | 21:45 |
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| cihhan | Sam-I-Am: Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, I have used that one. But it failed. When I try to SSH, it was telling me that the connection was refused. I dont think that it came with openssh-server installed | 21:48 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: yes, instance has the same IP address for default gw as qrouter-xxx | 21:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cihhan: hmmm the ubuntu cloud image does have ssh installed | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | cihhan: did you open up port 22? | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | you do it with a security group | 21:56 |
| cihhan | Sam-I-Am: hmm, then there is another problem | 21:57 |
| cihhan | yes i do it with a security roup | 21:57 |
| cihhan | * group | 21:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 21:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, i gotta run to a meeting | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise i'd dig in more :/ | 21:57 |
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| cihhan | thanks a lot | 21:58 |
| cihhan | Before you leave, can I ask a very quick question? | 21:58 |
| cihhan | Sam-I-Am: I have followed this link: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ | 21:58 |
| cihhan | Sam-I-Am: is there anything more I need to do | 21:58 |
| cihhan | or that should be enough? | 21:59 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: but still instance cannot connect to metadata server | 22:00 |
| rgodinez | [root@host-172-20-20-22 ~]# curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id | 22:00 |
| rgodinez | curl: (7) couldn't connect to host | 22:00 |
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| larsks | rgodinez: If you look at the 'filter' table in the qrouter namespace, do you see something like : -A quantum-l3-agent-INPUT -d 127.0.0.1/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 9697 -j ACCEPT | 22:00 |
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| larsks | If that rule is in place, I would start by maybe running tcpdump inside the qrouter namespace to see if the requests are even getting that far. Oh, but first verify that something is actually listening: ip netns exec qrouter... netstat -tln | 22:02 |
| larsks | You should see something listening on port 9697. | 22:02 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: the rule is in place, and netstat gives : tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9697 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN | 22:05 |
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| larsks | rgodinez: Then I would start using tcpdump at various points on the network path to see where things are broken. | 22:06 |
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| larsks | You can start on the router interface using something like: ip netns exec qrouter-f31fe2d4-1561-4c3c-8dad-b03b3d695899 tcpdump -i qr-22044862-b5 -n port 80 or port 9697 | 22:07 |
| rgodinez | larsks: is it better to run tcpdump inside namespaces with ip netns qrouter-xxxx tcpdump...? | 22:07 |
| rgodinez | larsks: ok :-) | 22:07 |
| larsks | rgodinez: do you have a dedicated network controller? or is this an all-in-one install? | 22:08 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: customer=1 controller, 5 nodes , my lab= 1 controller/node + 1 node | 22:10 |
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| dmsimard | Hi guys, started getting this problem recently on our compute nodes. Any ideas ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/52172/ The nova-compute service keeps running, but 'nova service-list' will mark the compute node as down, restarting nova-compute brings it back up. | 22:10 |
| rgodinez | larsks: controller contains all services including network controller | 22:11 |
| larsks | Okay. So if you don't see the requests inside the namespace, the next point to check is probably the physical interface on the controller which would be receiving the connections (whatever you're using as your GRE endpoint, or an interface on the approriate physnet bridge if you're using VLANs). | 22:11 |
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| larsks | dmsimard: Do you see anything in /var/log/nova/compute.log? | 22:16 |
| rgodinez | larsks: no packets in qr-xxxx-xx :-/ | 22:16 |
| rgodinez | larsks: lests see physical iface | 22:17 |
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| larsks | rgodinez: Keep huntin' :). I would just set up 'curl' or 'wget' in a loop and then trace at various points. | 22:17 |
| dmsimard | larsks: That's where the log output I pasted comes from | 22:18 |
| rgodinez | larsks: good idea, I'll tell you | 22:18 |
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| larsks | dmsimard: Okay. And there's nothing before that first ERROR line? Have there been any changes in your environment since this was working? (package updates, restarting things, config file edits...)? | 22:19 |
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| larsks | dmsimard: Also, are you on grizzly or havana? | 22:20 |
| dmsimard | larsks: Nope, nothing relevant to that error before - no changes that I am aware of. Grizzly. | 22:20 |
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| larsks | There's this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974045 that associates that error with creating snapshots...any chance that's what you're hitting? | 22:21 |
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| dmsimard | Yeah I stumbled on that too, no snapshots are made | 22:22 |
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| larsks | Hmmm. Have you tried eliminating bad firewall rules as the culprit (by just adding an ACCEPT rule at the top of INPUT, for example) | 22:23 |
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| larsks | ? | 22:23 |
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| dmsimard | Have lots of hardware running the setup, don't have the freedom of trying too many things - don't believe there has been network-related changes since this started happening though. | 22:26 |
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| larsks | Ya got me :/. Looks like a database connection issue; I guess I would also check nova/conductor.log and the mysql log. | 22:29 |
| larsks | ...but not really sure. | 22:29 |
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| dmsimard | Yeah, I checked both - I have a good feeling it's not actually related to the database, though. | 22:30 |
| dmsimard | If you look at the code (github link at top of the paste) | 22:30 |
| dmsimard | There's a lot of stuff in the try, everything is wrapped in a single exception with the "model went away" generic error | 22:31 |
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| dmsimard | The error seems to imply "service.service_ref['report_count']" is not defined | 22:31 |
| larsks | Yeah, I spotted that; but it's logging the actual exception...which looks like it's caused by service.service_ref getting set to None. | 22:32 |
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| larsks | Which sounds to me like a conductor or database connection getting lost... | 22:32 |
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| larsks | It looks like that _report_state function is called periodically to verify that things are up. | 22:34 |
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| occupant | hah, that explains why my nagios check wasn't working. if you do "service $openstack-service status" as a non-priv'd user, it gives null output and an exit code of 0. | 22:56 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hey all i getting this error after doing a simple yum update http://paste.openstack.org/show/52193/ | 22:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | i can not get the dashboard to render now | 22:59 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: I "tcpdumped" *all* interfaces in both hosts (controller and node that contains the VM) and it does not capture any packet when "curl http://169.254.169.254/" is done | 23:01 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: I've seen that it's not even captured anything inside of the VM | 23:02 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: ip r inside of instance gives: 172.20.20.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 172.20.20.22 ; 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1002 ; default via 172.20.20.1 dev eth0 | 23:03 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: heh, I see now that it's working in other instance where 'ip r' gives: 172.20.20.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 172.20.20.20 ; default via 172.20.20.1 dev eth0 | 23:06 |
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| Gamekiller77 | what is pbr | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | Gamekiller77: pbr is 'python build reasonableness' it abstracts python packaging away from individual projects into a common project | 23:14 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ok that an error in my dashboard | 23:14 |
| Gamekiller77 | ImportError: Could not import settings 'openstack_dashboard.settings' (Is it on sys.path?): No module named pbr.version | 23:15 |
| Gamekiller77 | so i thinking i missing that package | 23:15 |
| clarkb | did you install via pip? | 23:15 |
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| Gamekiller77 | RDO | 23:16 |
| clarkb | you can try `pip install pbr` | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | I have no idea how to deal with that in RDO (pip install pbr should still work but it works around the RDO tooling) | 23:16 |
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| Gamekiller77 | clarkb: i only found one other person with this problem on google | 23:19 |
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| rgodinez | larsks: when I delete the local-link route, it works | 23:56 |
| rgodinez | route del -net 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev eth0 | 23:56 |
| rgodinez | # while true; do curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id; done | 23:56 |
| rgodinez | i-000001d7i | 23:56 |
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| adil452100 | hello | 23:59 |
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| adil452100 | we are a hosting company and we want some help developing an openstack module for whmcs | 23:59 |
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