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| Sam-I-Am | that being said, its different | 00:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, it worked until i reboot :/ | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | now the vm doesnt get an ip | 00:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone seen this before? | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | Deprecated: The LibvirtHybridOVSBridgeDriver VIF driver is now deprecated and will be removed in the next release. Please use the LibvirtGenericVIFDriver VIF driver, together with a network plugin that reports the 'vif_type' attribute | 00:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well thats interesting | 01:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the neutron metadata agent is claiming it cant find any endpoints | 01:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yet... i thought it just used the neutron endpoint | 01:07 |
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| Guest67091 | hi | 01:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ooo found another doc bug | 01:58 |
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| cf | how can I specify what DNS should the instances use? I already create /etc/nova/dnsmasq.conf and added dnsmasq_config_file=/etc/nova/dnsmasq.conf in nova.conf, but it's not working. Anyone have an idea? I'm using nova-network | 05:27 |
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| cf | I have the same problem https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/6329/the-vm-can-not-setup-correct-dns-server/ | 05:31 |
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| cf | I'm using havana btw | 05:34 |
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| DeeJay1 | hi, I'm having troubles with the capacity filter in Havana - we have two nodes with the same backend types and when creating two volumes with the full size of the PV behind the backend each of the two are being created on the same node, which results in the second giving an error due to not enough space on the PV | 07:42 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | Hi, I have a question relating routing. We have a Xenserver where we put OpenStack on it. The VMs go in one big VLAN (maybe we do virtual private networks with Neutron later). Now I don’t know how our hardware loadbalancers (which also act as firewall) should be set. | 08:14 |
| sebastian_kreutz | I mean what is the normal traffic routing from a request from the internet to one of our VMs? | 08:14 |
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| warhammer | any heartbeats here? | 08:18 |
| sebastian_kreutz | seems no one is here :( | 08:19 |
| warhammer | almost flatline... | 08:19 |
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| Guest3160 | sorry to my ignorance... why we need neutron, is it because we need functionality to provide L3, LB, NAT and plugins with other network vendors? | 08:23 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | Guest3160: do you mean me? | 08:27 |
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| Guest3160 | ? | 08:28 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | because I asked something relating neutron. | 08:29 |
| Guest3160 | oops. I may miss it. | 08:30 |
| Guest3160 | I am new to openstack and neutron, and I am puzzling why we need neutron | 08:30 |
| sebastian_kreutz | ah, same as I. yesterday people were really positive about neutron here especially since you can do virtual private networks with it. | 08:31 |
| ArminderS | and lot more | 08:31 |
| ArminderS | basically its SDN | 08:31 |
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| ArminderS | like you had physical switches & routers in hardware environment | 08:32 |
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| ArminderS | similarly you got this virtually using neutron in virtual environment | 08:32 |
| sebastian_kreutz | ArminderS: that's cool, because we actually have all this physical stuff, but it gets managed by a lazy external data center and I would love that we could do the stuff by ourselves | 08:33 |
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| Guest3160 | how is the stability? | 08:33 |
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| ArminderS | its matured a lot | 08:33 |
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| Guest3160 | stability is always the most concern in deploying system | 08:33 |
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| sarcasti_ | Hello, I'm trying to install alamo in Fusion but It stuck at "Waiting for 169.254.123.2:22 to become available", as I understand the most likely problem is network access? | 08:34 |
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| ArminderS | if you still wish to use physical stuff, lots of vendors have plugins for neutron to manage physical devices | 08:34 |
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| Guest3160 | this is my second question. | 08:35 |
| Guest3160 | what is the use of plugins to other vendors in actual | 08:35 |
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| Guest3160 | is it to let openstack to connect to hardware vendor? or implement those function from vendor harware into neutron? | 08:36 |
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| Guest3160 | i believed is the 2nd option, rite? | 08:42 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | ArminderS: what I don’t really get, yet is the way the traffic flows. We have a hardware load balancers (which are used as firewalls) and behind that we have a xenserver pool which contains openstack. VMs by OpenStack go in an own VLAN. | 08:55 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | so if web traffic needs to go on one VM then it goes through our load balancer and then directly on the VM or does it need to go through the openstack controller? I am asking because I don’t understand where the security groups are actually implemented. are they on the VMs themselves? | 08:57 |
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| Guest3160 | sebastian_kreutz: the traffics should go to the VMs but the auth is governer by controller. | 08:59 |
| sebastian_kreutz | so the load balances route the traffic to the controller? | 09:00 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | *load balancers* | 09:00 |
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| sarcasti_ | So it seems that the waiting for error is somehow connected to chef-server, it seems to be running but the alamo installer cannot connect to it | 09:41 |
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| sheldonh | trying to recreate my base networks from scratch, "neutron net-create ext-net -- --router:external=True --provider:network_type gre --provider:segmentation_id 2" gives me "Unable to create the network. The tunnel ID 2 is in use." how can i get rid of it? | 09:43 |
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| sarcasti_ | net-list should show current networks, maybe the id is already in use? | 09:44 |
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| sheldonh | sarcasti_: doh. an earlier delete failed. ext-net still shows up in net-list. delete worked now, problem solved. thanks! | 09:45 |
| sarcasti_ | :) | 09:45 |
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| reidrac | ouch, found a bug upgrading swift from 1.7.4 to 1.10.0 | 10:30 |
| reidrac | is this kind of upgrade supported? | 10:30 |
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| reidrac | it's easy to fix though, looks like 1.7.4 ring doesn't have region information and Ring._reload() isn't setting a default for that key in dev dictionary | 10:33 |
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| reidrac | should I report a bug? | 10:33 |
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| reidrac | the fix is trivial | 10:33 |
| reidrac | I will report it as is easy to close the bug if that upgrade path is not supported | 10:35 |
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| sheldonh | oh ffs. seriously? create an instance in a network that isn't in the admin tenant (i.e. follow the documentation) and you trash compute and metadata services? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1246258 | 11:00 |
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| lupine | oh my | 11:01 |
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| sheldonh | reidrac: sounds sensible | 11:03 |
| sheldonh | maybe i misunderstood the state of the art. is havana the current stable release? | 11:04 |
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| sheldonh | wow, wikipedia says yes | 11:08 |
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| reidrac | sheldonh, yes it is | 11:10 |
| reidrac | not so easy because once my patch worked my rings got converted to the new format :) | 11:10 |
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| dobber | hi, what is the minimum server limit to do a full test of openstack. are 2-3 enough ? | 11:13 |
| muehsi | Hi, my table "quotas" in database "restproxy_neutron" is not created. other tables are created. someone got some fix? | 11:14 |
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| sheldonh | dobber: it depends how much of openstack you intend to test. 3 servers would get you a test of multi-host compute. without highly available API services or live instance migration | 11:16 |
| dobber | sheldonh: how much do I need to test the HA api and instance migration ? | 11:16 |
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| dobber | sheldonh: i have one month free and a can provision a bunch of servers | 11:17 |
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| sheldonh | dobber: i don't know. i haven't investigated high availability. if i had to know how many servers up front, i'd get: 2 controller nodes, 2 network nodes, 2 compute nodes and 3 storage nodes | 11:17 |
| sheldonh | dobber: and fuckloads of prozac | 11:18 |
| dobber | fair enough | 11:19 |
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| sarcasti_ | prozac aint gonna cut it unless you mix it with whiskey | 11:19 |
| sheldonh | the problem being that whisky doesn't improve the documentation | 11:20 |
| sheldonh | (and yes, i know this for a fact) | 11:20 |
| sarcasti_ | I was just about to comment that I know that too well | 11:20 |
| lupine | it can alter your perception of the documentation | 11:20 |
| lupine | *hic* | 11:21 |
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| sheldonh | i always try out tech too soon. one day, i'm going to try out something that's already mainstream, and it's going to be awesome | 11:22 |
| sarcasti_ | :D | 11:22 |
| * sarcasti_ is trying to deploy openstack on 3 hosts | 11:22 | |
| sarcasti_ | It's day 2 and im going to drink myself to death | 11:22 |
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| sheldonh | sarcasti_: week 3 for me. 7 doc bugs, 2 code bugs... it's just nonsense, man | 11:24 |
| sarcasti_ | :| | 11:24 |
| dobber | 3 weeks test and no production ? | 11:24 |
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| sarcasti_ | I have a month to get it up and running | 11:24 |
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| sheldonh | dobber: i'm doing it incrementally. started with an all-in-one box, then moved to three boxes, then added storage. that was all pretty plain sailing. the clusterfuck happens when you try neutron networking instead of nova-network | 11:25 |
| sheldonh | dobber: i think we had our first multihost cloud up in 2 days | 11:25 |
| sarcasti_ | I got allinone working today, now moving to 3 box test and finally production | 11:26 |
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| sheldonh | sarcasti_: how will production differ from the 3 box test? | 11:27 |
| sarcasti_ | With external storage instead of local | 11:27 |
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| sarcasti_ | So not at all :p | 11:27 |
| sheldonh | storage was much less of a fuss than i expected, apart from the show stopper cinder doc bugs | 11:28 |
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| dobber | what about network? should a set a separate vlan with /28 for the openstack test? | 11:30 |
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| sheldonh | dobber: for your first test, just use nova-network and don't bother with external vlan configuration. it helps to have at least seen this shit working once before you spend weeks whining about the fact that it doesn't work :) | 11:33 |
| dobber | ok | 11:34 |
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| sheldonh | hahaha. that bug has trashed my cloud. i can't delete instances because they're plugged into a network that isn't owned by the admin tenant. i can't delete that network because it still has instances plugged into it :) | 11:40 |
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| sheldonh | aha. found the bug that gets you into this mess. neutron net-create's --tenant-id argument isn't validated. if you provide a tenant name instead of a tenant id, you end up in a very awkward situation. actually, you can recover. you start by deleting the ports that plug the instances into the poison network. from there on, recovery is easy | 11:52 |
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| sheldonh | i have such a wise mentor. "If it is stable with horrible documentation, then we can overcome that through experiential learning - which is, unfortunately, most frustrating. I would only evaluate something else if the software is unstable. Let's move forward with the default attitude that the docs are wrong. Let's calibrate estimations based on incorrect docs." | 12:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sheldonh: yo | 13:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sheldonh: ha, so that network tenant-id thing... explains what happened to me yesterday | 13:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sheldonh: however, the stack is alive now... much moreso than when i had the rpc issue. i can launch instances, they get IPs from dhcp, and can see the internet | 13:47 |
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| edgy | Hi, I am new to openstack and I followed the rdo quickstart and installed it but couldn't apply step 6 in http://openstack.redhat.com/Running_an_instance, there is no ip's listed | 13:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 14:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | something bad must have happened during the deployment | 14:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | are there any logs? | 14:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | the 'canned' openstack demos can be tricky to debug | 14:04 |
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| edgy | I am completely new so mostly I am missing something obvious, my server has eth0 with 10.x.x.x and eth1 with 208.x.x.x | 14:04 |
| edgy | now I edited the answer file to say | 14:04 |
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| edgy | CONFIG_NOVA_NETWORK_PRIVIF=eth3 | 14:05 |
| edgy | CONFIG_NOVA_NETWORK_FLOATRANGE=10.24.11.4/30 | 14:05 |
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| edgy | CONFIG_NOVA_NETWORK_PRIVIF=eth3 | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | where does it mention the answer file? | 14:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | something previously created? | 14:07 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: http://openstack.redhat.com/Adding_a_compute_node | 14:07 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: you mean packstack should recognize my interfaces automatically? | 14:08 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: I don't care about adding another node, I just want the basic setup for now | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, the all-in-one doesnt seem to be concerned about that | 14:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | it apparently uses lo0 to communicate within the stack | 14:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent used rdo before, just devstack | 14:09 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: shall I repeat the whole procedure again? | 14:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you did the whole thing stock on a single node, and it wouldnt list any ips when you tried launching an instance? | 14:10 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: yes | 14:10 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: wait, the instance boot and got an ip but | 14:10 |
| edgy | the problem is when I try to assign a floating ip | 14:11 |
| edgy | it got ip 192.168.0.2 and it says running | 14:11 |
| edgy | can I access it now without a floating ip? | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats probably an internal IP | 14:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the vm can see the world with the internal IP, but you can't access it remotely | 14:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you configure the floating ip range? | 14:12 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: on the answer file? | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://openstack.redhat.com/Floating_IP_range | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | via that | 14:13 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: yes I did and confirmed with http://pastebin.ca/2474600 | 14:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so those ips don't show up in the dashboard? | 14:16 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: they don't | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 14:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, you can try it manually with this... | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova add-floating-ip INSTANCE_NAME_OR_ID FLOATING_IP | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, whats missing from your floating ip list is the pool name | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | however i'm not sure exactly how rdo defines those | 14:18 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: # nova add-floating-ip saucy0 10.24.11.6 | 14:19 |
| edgy | ERROR: floating ip not found (HTTP 404) (Request-ID: req-f6b14a31-bf0b-4cb2-a32f-bc322a41b2ec) | 14:19 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: shall i configure those ip's in an interface like eth3 or the br-ex? | 14:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | br-ex references neutron and not nova networking | 14:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | which one are you using? | 14:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats nova floating-ip-pool-list say? | 14:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also, are you the correct tenant when executing these commands? | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | seems like rdo only has an admin user | 14:22 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: sorry I have to be away for 10 mins, .. really appreciate your help, will be back | 14:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure i should be around | 14:25 |
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| edgy | I'm back | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok.. | 14:42 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: I think I am using nova net but I am not sure, how can I confirm? | 14:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the default install of rdo uses nova-net according to the docs | 14:43 |
| edgy | nova floating-ip-pool-list shows no output | 14:43 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: correct tenant? I don't even know what that means | 14:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you source the keystonerc_admin file? | 14:44 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: yes | 14:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in openstack, there are tenants... like companies. each tenant has vms, network, and storage associated with it. | 14:44 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: ok | 14:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you use the command line utils to mess with tenants, you must have that tenant's credentials | 14:45 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: which is in keystonerc file? | 14:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it should be... looks like the rdo makes one for you | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | and only has one tenant... the 'admin' tenant | 14:46 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: keystone tenant-list shows there is admin and services | 14:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 14:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | does 'nova list' show your saucy0 vm? | 14:47 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: yes | 14:48 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: http://pastebin.ca/2474607 | 14:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok.. | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so nova-manage floating-list says what? | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should list your floating ips | 14:51 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: you mean floating list instead of floating-list? | 14:52 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: it's on the previous pastebin | 14:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah floating list | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmmm, so they're there... | 14:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the floating IPs dont show up in the gui when you're logged in as the admin tenant? | 14:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | and viewing the admin tenant's resources | 14:54 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: where can i view the admin tenant resources in horizon? | 14:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | under the 'project' tab, select the admin tenant | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | then go to 'networks' .. i think thats the place | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm on neutron, so its a little different | 14:57 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: http://imagebin.ca/v/117JgJBVitMc | 14:59 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: does that make any sense to you? | 15:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 15:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can you run 'neutron net-list' | 15:02 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: http://pastebin.ca/2474611 | 15:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | humm it sure seems like your stack is using neutron. did you set that up anywhere? | 15:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in which case assigning external IPs and stuff is another animal | 15:05 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: no, I didn't change the defaults | 15:06 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: if you want me to restart from scratch I would do it | 15:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 15:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you try the 'neutron' steps in here? http://openstack.redhat.com/Floating_IP_range | 15:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure exactly what RDO is doing underneath the hood with networking | 15:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know devstack uses nova-net by default | 15:07 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: # quantum net-create public --router:external=True | 15:08 |
| edgy | -bash: quantum: command not found | 15:08 |
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| queaker | hi folks, i have a short question | 15:08 |
| queaker | aber the quantum->havana update i have serious problems with networking on the compute node | 15:08 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: I read somewhere that packstack for production and devstack for testing, no? | 15:08 |
| queaker | i'm currently debugging the problem, but i forget a detail | 15:09 |
| queaker | forgot ;) | 15:09 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: may be I should use neutron net-create instead? | 15:10 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: the docs are very bad actually | 15:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | rdo uses packstack and looks more production-like than devstack, but in your case with a single host its more of a proof-of-concept | 15:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're right on the docs... it doesnt explain whats going on under the hood | 15:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | you might check out the packstack docs for havana | 15:10 |
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| queaker | i use openvswitch networking with neutron with vlans. now i remember that the untagging of in- / outgoing packets is accomplished with openflow-rules on the ovs-switch | 15:11 |
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| queaker | but i'm unable to find them after the update (and rename of quantum -> neutron) | 15:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could try the neutron net-create steps... the ones here are mostly ok: http://tinyurl.com/qej2pnn | 15:11 |
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| queaker | in detail - i lost the glue between the integration bridge and the physical bridge... | 15:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ick | 15:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm not well-versed enough in neutron right now :/ | 15:13 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: that guide is for grizzly and it's still using quantum command which seems to be deprecated | 15:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | edgy: just change quantum to neutron | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | it works fine | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | all they did was change the service name | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | (for some reason) | 15:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | queaker: did you upgrade, then try booting up an existing vm? | 15:14 |
| queaker | hey sam. i'm currently on the state where is have no vm in the complete system | 15:15 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: some reason = IP and name conflict I guess | 15:15 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: you suggest I start from keystone tenant-create or just neutron net-create? | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | queaker: can you start a vm? | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | edgy: well, you can do all of that with one tenant i think... the admin tenant you already have | 15:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | edgy: it just takes a little mental munging of the commands | 15:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i really haven't tried rdo yet, so i'm just suggesting stuff that might point you in the right direction | 15:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | i can install it and poke around, but not until tomorrow | 15:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have meetings starting in about 30 minutes and going the rest of the day | 15:24 |
| queaker | yes, i can | 15:24 |
| queaker | i just pasted the (maybe) relevant informations into this paste bin: http://pastebin.com/5ed3EMXT | 15:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | so the vm gets no network stuff? | 15:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent used vlan mode on neutron/ovs... | 15:26 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: please check http://pastebin.ca/2474619 | 15:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it wants the network id, not the subnet it | 15:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | id | 15:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... 0cfa85bb-616a-48e5-8f73-13c43c1a6a1b | 15:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its easy to get these confused | 15:29 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: nice now the command works | 15:31 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: now I have this on the dashboard admin | 15:33 |
| edgy | public vlan 10.24.11.4/30 NoACTIVEUP | 15:33 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: when I try to add a floating ip from dashboard it sees the pool public but says no ips to be allocated | 15:33 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: at least some progress ;) | 15:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, thats a start | 15:34 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: because you have to go for your meeting just guide me what I can like if devstack works easier, I can try it, but I need something easy to follow | 15:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, if you just want a proof-of-concept that works out of the box, i'd recommend devstack | 15:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it uses nova-net which is a LOT easier to wrap your head around the first time | 15:36 |
| queaker | i'm confused already, because no iptables rules are inserted after the update. iptables-save -c is empty beside the standart-entries | 15:36 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: you recommend centos or ubuntu for it? | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've stuck with ubuntu for all of my deployments | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack seems to like ubuntu | 15:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm using 12.04 precise | 15:36 |
| queaker | edgy, i stuck at ubuntu too. | 15:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think the other option for devstack is fedora rather than rhel | 15:37 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: ok for the volume group cinder-volume, can I use it from the host and the vms? | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in devstack, it looks for a vg named 'stack-volumes' | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're using cinder | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats one of the weird differences | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | in a normal cinder install, its 'cinder-volumes' or something like that | 15:38 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: ok but then if I stored data on it from the host, would the vms be able to access it? | 15:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | you dont necessarily need to use block storage... devstack will write files on your disk otherwise | 15:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | VMs from another openstack install? | 15:39 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: same install | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm not following you... | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | stack-volumes is the vg where cinder will create lvs for your vms if you assign them block storage | 15:40 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: mostly my question is stupid ;). ok when I create a vm I would specify a storage for it like 10G, isn't that comes from the vg? | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, not necessarily | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | cinder and block storage is not mandatory | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | without cinder, creating a 10G VM will write a 10G file to /var/lib/somewhere | 15:40 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: so how can I point devstack to use my other disk /dev/sdb e.g? | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | to you want to use sdb for VM storage? | 15:41 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: yes, because my sda is ssd and almost full | 15:41 |
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| edgy | Sam-I-Am: I am not speaking about where the vm is stored, I am speaking about the disk usage of the vm like if I want to store 100G of data on the vm | 15:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can put a stack-volumes vg on that disk | 15:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and cinder should find it | 15:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | the other option is figuring out where nova stores vm disk files otherwise (i forget where) and mounting /dev/sdb to that directory | 15:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i gotta run to meetings the rest of the day :/ | 15:46 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: ok thanks a lot | 15:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd rather be messing with openstack! | 15:46 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: hope I can catch you tomorror | 15:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, a couple of these meetings involve openstack | 15:46 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: fantastic | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, the business side of it | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i should be around tomorrow | 15:47 |
| edgy | Sam-I-Am: ok see you, again lots of thanks | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | no problem | 15:47 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | Hi, I successfully setup an openstack PV VM via devstack on a xenserver (on my vmware fusion). Following devstack, all services are starting / started but somehow Nova API takes very long now (10 min). Is that normal that it starts so slowly= | 15:59 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ? | 15:59 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | if I check with htop I see a lot of erlang processes and both virtual CPUs going wild!? | 16:02 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ConnectionError at /admin/ | 16:17 |
| SebastianKreutzb | HTTPConnectionPool(host='172.16.235.140', port=8774): Max retries exceeded with url: /v2/edfcef5e770042419a35c8331b4b2271/extensions (Caused by <class 'socket.error'>: [Errno 111] Connection refused) | 16:17 |
| SebastianKreutzb | do you guys know what should run on port 8774? If I try to login at my openstack I get | 16:17 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ^^ | 16:17 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | on port 8774 nothing is running. the host is the openstack controller itself. any idea? | 16:18 |
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| amartin | is there a comparison chart available somewhere for the different storage backends that work with Cinder? | 16:24 |
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| larsks | SebastianKreutzb: Port 8774 is the Nova API port. | 16:24 |
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| larsks | SebastianKreutzb: You should check and see if the nova-api service is running. | 16:24 |
| SebastianKreutzb | how do I check that? | 16:24 |
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| rockey | service nova-api status | 16:25 |
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| larsks | You can run "ps -fe | grep nova-api" and see if you see anything. You can look in /var/log/nova/api.log to see any errors. | 16:25 |
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| rockey | or; ps auxwww | grep nova-api | 16:25 |
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| larsks | Was it previously working? | 16:25 |
| SebastianKreutzb | no, it's my first install. everything seems to work fine, just nova-api not | 16:26 |
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| larsks | So looking in the api.log is probably a good place to start. | 16:27 |
| SebastianKreutzb | I run `service nova-api status` and got: "nova-api: unrecognized service" <- ups | 16:27 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | `/var/log/nova/api.log` is not existing | 16:27 |
| SebastianKreutzb | :o | 16:28 |
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| larsks | How did you install your system? | 16:28 |
| SebastianKreutzb | devstack :( | 16:28 |
| rockey | service openstack-nova-api status <- working? | 16:28 |
| SebastianKreutzb | service openstack-nova-api status <- unrecognized service | 16:28 |
| larsks | If you're using devstack you may not get actual service entries. Attach to your devstack screen session and look for the n-api screen. | 16:28 |
| SebastianKreutzb | oh there is a "n-api failed to start" due to "2013-11-07 15:41:23.785 TRACE nova IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/etc/nova/api-paste.ini'" error | 16:30 |
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| rockey | fix permissions, then restart the services | 16:31 |
| larsks | And in devstack, "restart services" means "use the up-arrow key to go back in history and hit return". | 16:31 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ok, I fix the permissions. | 16:33 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | a call of cd `/opt/stack/nova && /usr/local/bin/nova-api`looks better now, but it fails after some lines with `2013-11-07 16:25:26.653 CRITICAL nova [-] arguments already parsed: cannot register CLI option` | 16:36 |
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| Fremen2001 | hello all...just a little question... did anyone try to install openstack on NetBSD before ?? | 16:37 |
| wink | o_O | 16:38 |
| Fremen2001 | =) | 16:38 |
| wink | I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I'd be surprised if it ran on more than 10 linux distros | 16:38 |
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| wink | especially openvswitch is deep voodoo magic | 16:39 |
| Fremen2001 | i just ask before goin deeper to see how to do it =) | 16:39 |
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| wink | don't take my ramblings for granted. just an opinion :) | 16:39 |
| Fremen2001 | i know is probably a nightmare...but still...i like challenges | 16:39 |
| badams | anyone ever play around with savanna? just wondering what the format of the endpoints would be, if any | 16:40 |
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| sgran | Fremen2001: do any of the virtualization platforms supported by openstack work on BSD ? | 16:41 |
| Fremen2001 | we got xen =) | 16:42 |
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| sgran | ok, then look at the network backends next | 16:42 |
| sgran | I know of linuxbridge and openvswitch | 16:43 |
| larsks | badams: This message has some examples of savanna endpoints: https://lists.launchpad.net/savanna-all/msg00028.html | 16:43 |
| Fremen2001 | you might wonder why try something like that.. and is hardware related... =) | 16:43 |
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| sgran | no, I'm not supporting it - I don't mind why you do it or what you do :) | 16:44 |
| sgran | I'm happy enough to answer questions if I know the answer | 16:45 |
| Fremen2001 | tnx =) | 16:45 |
| Fremen2001 | openvswitch works on netbsd..just check | 16:46 |
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| badams | larsks: beautiful! thanks. | 16:46 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | is it normal that an intial starting of tempest takes >10 minutes? everything else started properly now (checking devstack screen) | 17:12 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | oh, I found the issue in the nova screen: from nova.rootwrap import wrapper\nImportError: No module named rootwrap\ | 17:13 |
| SebastianKreutzb | :( | 17:14 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ah cool, I neeeded to delete /usr/bin/nova-rootwrap and tried again and now everything seems green :) | 17:17 |
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| momelod | greetings channel. | 17:35 |
| momelod | i've got an issue where my instances cannot get an ip address assigned. | 17:35 |
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| momelod | on startup i see the virtual interface created on the compute node, ie: tape3a81226-77 | 17:36 |
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| momelod | i see the dhcp request packets leaving that interface | 17:36 |
| momelod | but there is no response | 17:36 |
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| momelod | on the controller where dnsmasq is running i see the service listening for connections on virbr0 | 17:39 |
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| dsockwell | momelod: i ran into that yesterday evening. opted to do a clean reinstall, which isn't done yet, so i'm about at the same point as you are. | 17:43 |
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| dsockwell | momelod: are you using neutron with ovs/gre tunnels? | 17:44 |
| momelod | quantum w/ vlan | 17:44 |
| dsockwell | Linux vlan? | 17:44 |
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| dsockwell | no ovswitch? | 17:44 |
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| momelod | yes, ovswitch. sorry | 17:44 |
| dsockwell | ok | 17:44 |
| dsockwell | too bad, i was hoping you were seeing it on linux vlans so i could eliminate ovs | 17:45 |
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| javsalgar | hello everyone. I have an Openstack Havana Cloud and everything seems to be fine but one thing. I cannot create instance snapshots anymore. Everytime I try to create it (via CLI or Dashboard), the command says that it was executed correctly but no snapshot is created. Can someone help me please? | 17:50 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | momelod: I'm in the same spot too except with GRE. | 17:59 |
| momelod | aight so here is what i am seeing. dnsmasq is listening on virbr0 but i see the requests hitting the controller on eth0 | 18:00 |
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| momelod | how do i tell dnsmasq to listen on eth0? | 18:00 |
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| dsockwell | is virbr0 bridged to eth0? | 18:02 |
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| dsockwell | http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/dnsmasq.conf.example -- neutron-dhcp-agent (and probably quantum too) will let you specify a supplemenetal config for dnsmasq | 18:03 |
| dsockwell | could try passing it an interface directive | 18:03 |
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| momelod | dsockwell: i type brctl show and i see a bridge name with virbr0 but nothing listed under interfaces | 18:06 |
| momelod | i shuold see eth0 under interfaces right/? | 18:06 |
| dsockwell | is this a linux bridge or an openvswitch bridge? | 18:07 |
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| dsockwell | do you have openvswitch-brcompat installed? | 18:08 |
| dsockwell | on my old, busted install i had installed that and then removed it | 18:08 |
| momelod | dang, i added the interface to the bridge and locked myself out :) | 18:08 |
| dsockwell | i wonder if it somehow stuck around | 18:08 |
| dsockwell | heh | 18:08 |
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| dsockwell | doing this all in a VM ftw | 18:09 |
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| momelod | no openvswitch-brcompat installed | 18:12 |
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| dsockwell | so it's my understanding that neutron (and probably quantum) expect all bridges to live in openvswitch and for no linux bridges to be around | 18:13 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | so I think the idea is you should interact with your bridges through ovs-vsctl instead of brctl | 18:13 |
| dsockwell | or at least it will ignore them | 18:13 |
| dsockwell | not sure if it ignores or breaks | 18:14 |
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| dsockwell | but it certainly doesn't do anything good | 18:14 |
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| richardboswell | memelod: you can safely remove the virbr0 interface if you want, it's the default KVM network interface | 18:23 |
| richardboswell | brctl del-br virbr0 | 18:24 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: You still around? | 19:09 |
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| `mr`jones | hi everyone. anyone know of openstack providers in Canada? VEXXHOST is the only one I can find | 19:42 |
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| `mr`jones | I'm looking for OpenStack providers in Canada | 19:44 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i just notice there no doc for neutron for havana | 19:57 |
| Gamekiller77 | on the doc website | 19:57 |
| Gamekiller77 | i keep getting the one for grizzly | 19:57 |
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| Liquid-- | Hello all, I know that Havana seems to be the current stable build of openstack. However, I was wondering if anyone knew if Grizzly is more stable at this point. Are there any known issues with Havana? | 19:59 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Liquid--: i have to say i like havan a bit more right now | 19:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | the conf files are fuller and better documented in the file | 20:00 |
| ArminderS | Gamekiller77: you may check the trunk one | 20:00 |
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| Gamekiller77 | and dashboard is way better | 20:00 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok ArminderS | 20:00 |
| Liquid-- | Gamekiller77: Thank you, I'm currently installing through RDO and I'm having issues launching any more than 6 instances | 20:00 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i am reinstall neutron right now and i have not tested that | 20:01 |
| Gamekiller77 | did you pass your quato limits | 20:01 |
| Liquid-- | well my packstack answer-file shows that I have a max of 50 instances. It's interesting that I continue to see these errors. | 20:02 |
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| Liquid-- | I have plenty of disk/memory/cpu on the compute nodes as well. | 20:02 |
| Gamekiller77 | the dashboard has a new quata limit | 20:02 |
| Gamekiller77 | check that first | 20:02 |
| Liquid-- | Oh really? How do you check for that? | 20:03 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hold on | 20:03 |
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| Gamekiller77 | sorry my stack down while i rebuild neutron | 20:04 |
| Gamekiller77 | in admin there is a quota item on the left | 20:04 |
| Gamekiller77 | it list all your quotas | 20:04 |
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| Liquid-- | oh wow, thank you Gamekiller77: I'm reinstalling with RDO now. I'll take a look at that. | 20:06 |
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| wayneeseguin | Where is teh best place to find walkthrough / workflow details on how the OpenStack Networking component works? Same question for it's configuration options. Thanks! | 20:07 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Liquid--: i am using RDO but i install by hand as i am using complex multi node | 20:07 |
| Gamekiller77 | wayneeseguin: what build of openstack | 20:08 |
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| wayneeseguin | Latest Grizzly | 20:08 |
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| `mr`jones | omg wayneeseguin ? | 20:08 |
| wayneeseguin | ? | 20:09 |
| wayneeseguin | :) | 20:09 |
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| wayneeseguin | *teh == the | 20:09 |
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| `mr`jones | I'm looking for OpenStack providers in Canada. Someone from this IRC channel linked me to a list of public providers, and I'm looking for the same thing before. | 20:12 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Gamekiller77: Neutron is covered in the Havana guide. It's a bit lacking maybe but not missing. | 20:27 |
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| Gamekiller77 | CaptainTacoSauce: where i been looking i see limited info like plug in stuff but that about it i look more | 20:31 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_neutron.html | 20:32 |
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| Gamekiller77 | CaptainTacoSauce: yah that for ubuntu for RHEL it is totally missing they say to use nova-networking and found that very odd | 20:33 |
| Gamekiller77 | also the admin guy for networking is lacking | 20:33 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | ahh okay I see, it sounds like that was just the choice of the author, use nova-network instead of neutron, keep it simple | 20:34 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | just guessing at this point though, didn't realize you were talking about RHEL | 20:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah i agree but it not the standard for my setup | 20:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah sorry | 20:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | doing RDO with neutron ovs | 20:34 |
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| Gamekiller77 | cisco next | 20:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | upgrade from grizzly to havana broke it but that becuase i messed up somethign when i did first install | 20:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | the RDO neutron.conf file is full so just need to comment out the lines i need i the OVS stuff i need more help with | 20:35 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah I'm still building my understanding of ovs as well | 20:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | my big complaint right now is the network admin guide missing | 20:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | for havana | 20:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | and the config guide missing ceilometer and heat | 20:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | Need to fix this Neutron so i can finish testing heat | 20:37 |
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| Gamekiller77 | CaptainTacoSauce: the OVS website has some good doc btw | 20:37 |
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| Gamekiller77 | for the channel if i getting a error 1006 on the console window what should i look for (running multi server setup) | 20:38 |
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| kuinak | what is the correct v3 identity endpoint for tokens? | 20:48 |
| kuinak | docs (http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html#identity-v3) say v3/tokens | 20:48 |
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| kuinak | but code seems to be v3/auth/tokens (https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/auth/routers.py) | 20:49 |
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| wayneeseguin | Thank you CaptainTacoSauce I'll read it | 20:56 |
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| Gamekiller77 | CaptainTacoSauce: fyi the ubuntu network install is pretty much the same for RHEL with RDO | 21:01 |
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| ramak | guys need help with installing openstack. Followed the instructions on devstack and keystone failing to startup. | 21:14 |
| ramak | devstack/lib/keystone:378 keystone did not start | 21:14 |
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| `mr`jones | I'm looking for OpenStack providers in Canada. Anyone know? | 21:16 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ramak: check the log files | 21:25 |
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| ramak | <Gamekiller77: Can you tell me where the log files would be located? | 21:27 |
| Gamekiller77 | should be /var/log/keystone/ | 21:28 |
| Gamekiller77 | some time it the permission to that file | 21:28 |
| Gamekiller77 | make sure it own by keystone | 21:28 |
| Gamekiller77 | rw | 21:28 |
| Gamekiller77 | -rw-r--r-- 1 keystone keystone 1691482 Nov 7 20:03 keystone.log | 21:29 |
| tester155 | i think for devstack the keystone log files are somewhere else... | 21:29 |
| Gamekiller77 | if not there go look at your keystone.conf file | 21:30 |
| Gamekiller77 | it will have a line to tell you where they go | 21:30 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah sorry i am RDO user | 21:30 |
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| Gamekiller77 | tester155: do you have a /etc/keystone directory ? | 21:31 |
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| tester155 | Gamekiller77: yes | 21:33 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok then look for log_dir= | 21:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | in the keystone.conf | 21:34 |
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| tester155 | Gamekiller77: I don't have an issue with keystone but I've used devstack before and the outs are outputted to the screen | 21:35 |
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| tester155 | need to run 'screen -x' to see the logs | 21:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ooo ok | 21:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you need to see what it spitting out | 21:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | i would turn on verbose and debug also | 21:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you could set a log file location so you can catch it | 21:36 |
| tester155 | I do have this issue though | 21:36 |
| tester155 | in nova/compute.log | 21:37 |
| tester155 | when i try to deploy an image, it fails | 21:37 |
| tester155 | 2013-11-07 15:05:44.087 7519 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: e3e4b617-4d54-408f-89d2-d0b51383fa39] NetworkNotFoundForBridge: NV-190F82D Network could not be found for bridge br-int | 21:37 |
| Gamekiller77 | is your devstack useing neutron or nova-network | 21:37 |
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| tester155 | im using regular openstack and it's using nova-network | 21:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hmm | 21:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | if you do a ifconfig do you see the br-int | 21:38 |
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| tester155 | yep it's there | 21:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah not sure then like i said never used devstack just RDO | 21:40 |
| tester155 | what does RDO stand for | 21:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 21:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | it redhat release | 21:41 |
| Gamekiller77 | i use centos as the OS | 21:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | it uses packstack | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | i like it as it can do single node and multi node deployment | 21:42 |
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| tester155 | ah ok | 21:44 |
| tester155 | i'm actually trying to do a deployment onto vCenter | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | so esxi as the hypervisor | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | or to host the mgmt servers | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | i have all my key glance cinder nova-ctrl on vCenter | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | but KVM as my hypervisor | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok UCS blades | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | on | 21:45 |
| tester155 | kvm is the hypervisor that's running the nova-compute, but on the vCenter it has EXSI hosts | 21:46 |
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| Gamekiller77 | so like i deployed single instance setup for demo to the bosses on ESXi with vCenter of RDO | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | just to show it off | 21:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | my production setup is all service that support OPST are on vCenter | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | like keystoen | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | glance | 21:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | cinder are VMs on VMware | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | but the compute node are baremetal linux kvm | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | that works fine | 21:48 |
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| tester155 | did you ever reference this guide to set it up? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/vmware.html | 21:49 |
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| Gamekiller77 | so that ESXi as the compute nodes not KVM | 21:49 |
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| Gamekiller77 | I will be doing that soon but not yet | 21:50 |
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| tester155 | ah ok I understand what you did now | 21:51 |
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| Gamekiller77 | we are VMware shop so we put the MGMT cluster on VMware only | 21:52 |
| Gamekiller77 | to use VMware HA and stuff | 21:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | we will one day switch to 100% KVM and do what called openstack on openstack hehe | 21:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | any one see this come up. I have the correct permissions for this file but still Unable to load quantum from configuration file /etc/neutron/api-paste.ini. | 22:06 |
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| joel_c2 | Hi Folks, We just deployed Grizzly and tenant snapshots are being set as public by default. I am unable to find where we can change this default. (Whether through client or horizon all snapshots and images created by tenants are being set as public=True). Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. | 22:39 |
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| dsockwell | I'm trying to get an all-in-one node to come up with openvswitch's br-ex configured for its public IP, but despite my best debian-fu in /etc/network/interfaces, it comes up with br-ex down. Neutron isn't configured yet, but it is installed and starting. Could Neutron be disabling the bridge and then crashing before bringing it up again? | 22:48 |
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| dsockwell | that is, neutron is definitely misconfigured, should I blame it for hosing my networking and try to configure it right, or should I be working on getting the external bridge online first? | 22:49 |
| dsockwell | running /etc/init.d/networking restart after boot configures br-ex fine | 22:50 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | okay I cannot get my horizon-based vnc console to work no matter what I do, it keeps saying /vnc_auto.html was not found on this server, but I can tell its not using port 6080, its just trying it on 80 | 22:57 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | /etc/nova/nova.conf on my controller/horizon/novncproxy server has this entry: novncproxy_base_url=http://192.168.0.141:6080/vnc_auto.html | 22:58 |
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| mdorman | had an "unplanned reboot" | 23:00 |
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| dsockwell | wtf | 23:08 |
| dsockwell | /etc/nova/nova.conf came out of the gplhost package with | 23:08 |
| dsockwell | # When using Neutron and OVS, use: nova.virt.libvirt.vif.LibvirtHybirdOVSBridgeDriver | 23:08 |
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| dsockwell | i spent half an hour looking for ...Hybird...driver | 23:09 |
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| dtx00ff | 30 minutes is reasonable! ;) | 23:12 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | okay even nova get-vnc-console 635d0294-ad58-4886-a034-e89571602d46 novnc comes back with http://192.168.0.141/vnc_auto.html?token=bd05d1e4-804e-49f2-b1c9-1c1ad10c78f4 (not port 6080) | 23:16 |
| dsockwell | dtx00ff: but 10 more finding http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31jBVZ1-G9L._SY300_.jpg is not... | 23:16 |
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| kr4m3r | hello all, i received 10 new ips (diferent ranges) to release to instances on Openstack. How i add thes IP Address in nova? i have 177.30.xx.yy/29 and need add 10 new ips withou real range. just a 10 single IP | 23:26 |
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