Friday, 2013-11-01

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Liquid--does anyone have experience deploying Openstack with RDO?00:44
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carnalersee ya guys03:39
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Luca__Hi everybody. I am having a HTTP 500 error on a euca call to EC2 API. Logs do not report anything, nova-ec2 reports only the HTTP 500 error. Anybody with few any idea?07:14
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Luca__anyone with any idea?07:26
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stan_ivanovHello, is the deleting of a flavor going to affect the instances already using it?07:57
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lifelessstan_ivanov: in theory no, but there have been bugs around that before08:02
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Luca__lifeless: do you know anything about EC2 calls with OS and how to troubleshoot them?08:03
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lifelessLuca__: thats a bit vague, whats up?08:06
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Luca__lifeless: I am trying to use euca tools instead the native openstack api tools for automation, however I am stuck on a HTTP 500 reply08:21
Luca__lifeless: this is the same answer from the nova.ec2 logs. I cant find any other trace log08:22
Luca__lifeless: which could provide some suggestion or hint on what is going wrong08:23
lifelessthe ec2 api is served by the regular nova-api, though I believe it is disableable08:23
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lifelessyou should have a log file for the api server08:23
lifelesswhats in the log?08:23
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TVR_foolish question I am sure... but is there / are there any good video tutorials / classes that go into all the details that people in here are asking about? It seems all the classes, like from rackspace and such, are geared as a 4 day sales pitch on how and why to convince your uper management to go with their product.11:52
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TVR_specifically, the conf files and why to set what where...11:52
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TVR_tune storage.. etc11:52
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norris900_TVR there is so much information available on the conf files. Administrators documents are probably what you should be looking at11:57
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TVR_ok.. there is a wealth of knowledge out there... I am sure I have glanced and bookmarked all the sites... what helped you the most? I am not looking to have someone do this for me, but rather just looking to minimise wasted time11:59
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norris900_this forum helped me most , running dev stack a number of times helped me see what conf files would look like in certain kinds of setups12:00
norris900_sorry irc channel not forum12:01
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TVR_sure.. no worries.. ok, thanks... my main issue is, I have a cluster, created using packstack.. automated it.. created automation and can add hypervisors.... yet the openstack dashboard still feels foreign to me.... I would like to know how it decides where to provision an instance.. as mine are going all on server 1 until full.. etc..12:04
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norris900_that is scheduling , used to be configured in nova.conf12:05
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stan_ivanovHello, when my VM have several SCSI controllers, how can I attach a volume to a specific SCSI controller, because it just attaches to the first controller?12:07
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norris900_TVR_: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html i think this is what you want12:11
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RubNoobgood morning - cany anyone provide me with a good tutorial on how to handle monthly-on-anniversary-date recurring tasks?12:12
RubNoobfor instance, if I want to bill a user monthly on their anniversary date, and I have the anniversary_date available to me, how can I perform a check as to whether they should be billed if I have a task that runs daily?12:12
RubNoobsorry, this was in the wrong window12:13
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TVR_thanks norris900 ... I guess I will need to brew a pot of coffee and just read the entire stack... like a novel...12:16
TVR_thanks again12:16
norris900but it so much more fun bug hunting than setting it up perfectly, i think i know every error thats possible thesedays12:17
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norris900stan_ivanov : i assume you have multiple compute nodes that are also running as cinder nodes and want to schedule the cinder volume to the same node as the VM instance ?12:22
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stan_ivanovnorris900: no, let's say I have a VM with two SCSI controllers and I want to be able to choose the controller I like when I am attaching a volume12:25
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DandyPandyCan anyone clue me in as to why I'm getting the exception "Found no network for bridge br-int" when starting up nova-compute? Here's my config: https://gist.github.com/dgivens/75f11c28772a7449f19b12:33
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norris900stan_ivanov: hmmm as far as im aware that functionality hasnt been added, but it would be relitivly simple to do yourself12:38
stan_ivanovnorris900: and how can I do that?12:38
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baoliDandyPandy: did you create any network with 'neutron net-create'?12:41
DandyPandyJust my public one, but none of the docs I've found reference creating a network for the integration interface12:41
norris900stan_ivanov: that all depends on your personal skill set honestly, personally i would manipulate the active agents in database, you could write your own scheduler but thats beyond my python skills currently12:42
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stan_ivanovnorris900: thanks12:45
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baoliDandyPandy: did you try devstack with neutron? the networks will be automatically created for you. Otherwise, refer to neutron admin for creating networks/subnets, etc12:47
norris900sorry i couldnt help more12:47
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DandyPandybaoli: yes, but I'm unable to view the networks with the stack or demo user. I get errors about the tenant being wrong.12:48
DandyPandyoh you know what, I remember looking in the database and only saw public and private networks. There was no reference to br-int.12:49
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DandyPandyThe only difference I see is an int-xapi0 port12:51
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baoliDandyPandy: under the devstack dir, run 'source openrc admin admin" or 'source openrc admin demo', and then do neutron net-list12:54
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DandyPandyYeah, just public and private. I think I may be on to something with the interface missing.12:55
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sodreI have a question on Havana / DNSMasq... can someone help me?13:26
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drazylshout it out, maybe someone will know13:29
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Luca__Hello, I am having hard time with EC2 API calls and Openstack. They return HTTP 500 error and unfortunately logs do not show any error13:30
Luca__any advice?13:30
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kbringardLuca__: did you check all of the logs? specifically, keystone?13:32
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jrwrenLuca__: what ec2 api call exactly?13:32
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sodreThis is about linux/dhcp.py: is there any specific reason why a hosts file is not generated ?13:33
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sodreThe side effect seems to be that the machines never get a proper hostname.13:34
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kbringardsodre: the file actually isn't there? VMs wouldn't get an IP is the leases file doesn't exist...13:37
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kbringardby default it's in /var/lib/quantum/dhcp/<uuid>/host13:37
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sodreI mean the files in the style of /etc/hosts13:38
Luca__kbringard: I checked all logs but I cant see any ERROR, TRACE message13:38
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Luca__jrwren: all euca calls are failing13:38
sodrekbringard, maybe I have a different issue, i.e. the dnsmasq can't resolve the machine hostname, even in CirrOS13:39
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Luca__even modifying the EC2_SECRET I get HTTP 500, when I should have a 400 error I  believe13:39
drazylhave you checked the apache error log?13:40
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Luca__drazyl: they are direct API calls, is the HTTP coming into play? by the way, native Openstack API calls are working without issues. It seems the problem affect only EC2 API calls13:44
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sodrekbringard, do you know how OpenStack works with Ubuntu cloud-init to set an entry on the guests /etc/hosts file ? In particular I am always ending without a 127.0.1.1 record there.13:49
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dsantos_hey there, I'm trying to use the compute api v3... Is there any way to use the v3 api with a devstack installation?13:50
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dsantos_*identity api v313:50
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Luca__anybody with some ideas?13:51
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drazylwhat API call are you making13:54
stan_ivanovAnyone knows how to handle attaching volumes to a VM with multiple hard disk controllers? By default the volume always gets attached to the first controller.13:55
jrwrenLuca__: IMO the nova ec2 api is broken. It returns responses different than ec2.13:55
jrwrenLuca__: e.g. this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/121552713:56
jrwrenLuca__: purhaps if you login to launchpad and claim that this bug affects you too, it will get prioritized. :)13:56
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sodreI am having an issue with hostname assignment with OpenStack Havana and Neutron. Can somebody help ?13:57
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Luca__got disconnected14:06
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Luca__jrwren: I see. However it seems bit odd that all EC2 calls are broken. Though I have been looking into this issue for 10 days and could not find anything14:07
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jrwrenLuca__: not all the calls are broken at an API level.14:08
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jrwrenLuca__: only all the calls which return singletons.14:08
jrwrenLuca__: calls which return more complex data types work fine.14:09
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Luca__jrwren: In my case I tried with several eula calls but all of them returns HTTP 50014:10
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Luca__jrwren: Therefore this makes me think that there is something broken, though I dont see where14:13
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jrwreni'm not familiar with the euca calls, only boto library. Sorry :(14:19
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DandyPandyI'm trying to get neutron-openvswitch-agent started for a xenserver box and it's dying being unable to execute ovs-vsctl via neutron-rootwrap-xen-dom0. error: https://gist.github.com/dgivens/29c90b6764c7e886438f14:53
DandyPandyThe exception is FilterMatchNotExecutable14:54
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DandyPandyI found this, but it was fixed: https://lists.launchpad.net/yahoo-eng-team/msg03622.html14:54
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stan_ivanovAnyone knows how cinder chooses the harddisk controller when attaching volumes?15:02
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s2r2has anyone ever played with NVPs QoS extension to neutron?15:16
ogzyafter i installed cinder and neutron at different nodes, i started to get settings.DATABASES is improperly configured. Please supply the ENGINE value error at the horican page the traces says         tz = request.session.get('django_timezone')15:17
ogzyany idea what can be the reason?15:17
ogzyi folloed havane on ubuntu 12.04 installation steps15:17
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norris900stan_ivanov: First, filter scheduler filters the available backends. By default, AvailabilityZoneFilter, CapacityFilter and CapabilitiesFilter are enabled.15:20
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norris900stan_ivanov: Secondly, filter scheduler weights the previously filtered backends. By default, CapacityWeigher is enabled. The CapacityWeigher attributes high score to backends with the most available space.15:20
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sodreHow can the hostname bug  in Neutron be fixed ?15:22
sodrei.e. machines that get their hostnames from metadata end with with a botched fqdn.15:23
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rvdpdotorgI get a Unknown provider:physical_network with neutron net-create on havana. This is my 1st setup. I noticed that the ovs_vlan_allocations table in mysql is empty. Is that related?15:42
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scsnowHi, is it possible to control vlan id allocations for br-int ovs bridge? (Havana w/ Neutron, tenant_network_type=local) I.e. I would like to have tag=N for specific virtual network.15:44
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stan_ivanovnorris900: Sorry I don't have knowledge about these things, I am trying to achieve something that looks simple - transfer a VM's configuration from vSphere to OpenStack, but in the source VM there are attached discs at SCSI(1:0) and I have no idea how to do that in OpenStack15:48
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larsksscsnow: Pretty sure the answer is "no".  What are you trying to do?15:49
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scsnowlarsks: Well, I need to setup virtual network between 2 VMs. One of VM tags packets on their own side (i.e. eth0.10), so this port need to be configured as trunk=10. The opposite port should be tag=10.15:52
larsksWhy does your VM have a VLAN interface like that?  If you're trying to isolate traffic it seems you would be better off just using neutron to provision another network.15:53
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scsnowThat's predefined VM, that has one 'physical' interface eth0 and multiple vlans like eth0.10, eth0.50 and so on. Unfortunately I can't change this network setup inside VM. So I'm looking for a workaround...15:58
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scsnowProbably I should use linux bridges plugin instead of ovs...16:00
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larsksI don't think that's going to change anything.16:00
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norris900stan_ivanov, sorry vmware is always something i've avoided like the plague, i assume you've already read this http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/vmware.html?16:00
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larsksThat's an odd configuration for something provisioned in openstack.  Maybe there's some support for double-tagged VLANs?  Not sure. You could also -- in theory -- set up a GRE or VXLAN tunnel *between* your instances and run your VLANs over that (with some work), but this would require mucking about with the network configuration on your instances.16:01
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larsks...to be clear, I think these are all bad ideas.16:04
scsnowlarsks: is it possible to configure neutron in way to use gre tunnels between VMs instead on vlans on ovs?16:05
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scsnowor I should setup gre tunnel between VMs myself16:06
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scsnownote: I have 1 compute node16:07
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larsksIf you're talking about network configuration *inside* your instances then it's your job, not Neutron's.  That is, this becomes a general networking issue rather than an openstack one.16:07
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larsks...but I still think you would be better off just provisioning networks in neutron and using that instead of VLANs in your instances.  But I guess that's what you're stuck with.  Before going the tunnel route, do some googling on double-tagged vlans, which might allow you to do what you want.16:09
larsksNot something I've tried before so I don't know how well it works.16:09
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scsnowlarsks: thanks for advices, will continue my digging16:11
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Liquid--Hello, does anyone have experience launching openstack havana through RDO?16:36
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Liquid--I seem to have intermittent issues while launching multiple instances. I have a single controller with 3 compute nodes.16:37
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makarahi. I'm looking for cheap hosting. Really minimal requirements as far as cpu, mem, space, but full access to things like SSH, sudo, open ports. Suggestions?17:03
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Eelisis there a way to use an openstack swift based cloud storage service without exposing all my data to the service provider?17:53
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notmynameEelis: yes, I think so. what's your use case? what do you mean by exposing your data?17:55
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Eelisnotmyname: my use case is things like books.txt which lists books i've read. i don't want the service provider to know which books i've read.17:57
notmynameEelis: ya, sure. doesn't encrypting the data before you upload it solve that?17:57
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zxvffis it because you are embarassed that books.txt is actually empty and you want people to think you're a well read intellectual but the reality is that you don't have time to read books because you can't break yourself away from reading stupid things like reddit.com in front of your computer screen all day every day because you're addicted to technology because it helps you cope with the fact that you're disappointed with yourself in almost every other way and you17:58
zxvffif so, #openstack is probably not the correct place for you to find the help that you actually need17:58
Eelisnotmyname: that's a nice idea. are there any tools that do the client-side encryption/decryption for me?17:58
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Eeliszxvff: thanks for that17:58
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notmynameEelis: I'd say it depends on your needs. you could use something like truecrypt for an encrypted volume backed up to a swift cluster. you could use something like openssl to encrypt the files as they are sent (or before they are sent)18:00
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notmynameEelis: I guess my point is that swift stores the bytes you give it and returns those same bytes later. if you want to do encryption, swift "supports" that in that it doesn't care about the data you give it. you could use any encryption system you want18:01
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Eelishm, i guess my main problem is that even without encryption, i don't know how i'd access objects conveniently. can i mount a remote swift container in linux?18:02
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notmynameEelis: you could use something like cloudfuse, but swift doesn't support mounting natively. it's not a filesystem or block device18:03
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notmynameEelis: you might also check out http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/associated_projects.html for other things that use it18:03
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Eeliscloudfuse looks good. i guess i'd have to modify it to do the encryption/decryption though18:04
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notmynameEelis: there are also things like cyberduck, expandrive, and gladinet that can be used to view data stored in swift18:04
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Eelisright. but i'm guessing none of those support client-side encryption/decryption18:04
mike_edmrTOM V IS A GAY18:04
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notmynameEelis: I think that they punt on that and store whatever you give them18:08
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notmynameEelis: oh, also you might check out duplicity18:08
notmynameEelis: http://duplicity.nongnu.org18:09
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Eelisi don't want a backup tool. the whole reason i'm interested in cloud storage is so that i don't have to think about backing stuff up anymore18:09
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notmynameEelis: ah, ok. makes sense :-)18:10
Eelisi guess the best solution would be to have a local proxy that looks like a swift server, but uses another swift server for the actual object storage, while doing the encryption/decryption18:10
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Eelisthen i could use cloudfuse18:10
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notmynameEelis: so your goal is to auto encrypt everything that gets put into swift? without you having to do a manual encrypt step first?18:11
Eelisyes :)18:11
Eelisso that i can just do   vim myfiles/books.txt    and have everything i want18:12
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notmynameEelis: I'd love a patch to python-swiftclient that would support a "--encrypt" option that would do client-side encryption18:12
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Eelisis cloudfuse implemented with python-swiftclient?18:13
notmynameEelis: no. cloudfuse is written in C, IIRC18:13
Eelisso where does python-swiftclient come in?18:13
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notmynameEelis: it's the officially-supported python client bindings and CLI18:14
Eelisok, but i need the mounting so that i can do the   vim myfiles/books.txt18:14
Eelisso i need cloudfuse18:14
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Eelisso python-swiftclient is useless to me18:15
Eelisand would be even if it supported client-side encryption18:15
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Eelisso someone else will have to write that patch for you :P18:16
notmynameEelis: if you want a POSIX-style interface to it, you'd need something like cloudfuse. using a local encrypted volume and having a script that ran periodically to store it in the swift cluster would be another option18:16
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Eelisperiodic is no good, because if i do   vim myfiles/books.txt   on machine A, then when i save my changes, they need to be visible immediately if i then do   vim myfiles/books.txt  on machine B18:17
Eelisit's 2013 after all18:17
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Eeliscan't have out-of-sync crap18:17
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Eelisoh, python-swiftclient could be useful to me for making the proxy18:20
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Eelisthough if i'm going to be writing code, i'd rather it be Haskell than Python, so i'd probably use a Haskell S3 library instead18:22
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Eelisnotmyname: thanks for your thoughts18:57
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nagyzheya19:41
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Sam-I-Amhowdy folks20:00
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sgrandid you get things sorted out?20:09
Ramjetthowdy Sam-I-Am20:09
Sam-I-Amme? no.20:09
Sam-I-Amwound up blowing the entire thing away now that i know i'm safe virtualizing the controller/network nodes... will give me the ability to roll the different components out separately20:10
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sgranfair enough20:12
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Sam-I-Amyeah... now i can at least snapshot the controller/network nodes and revert to a known-good state20:14
Sam-I-Ammakes me feel better about breaking stuff20:14
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Sam-I-Ami think i'm going to roll this next attempt out with nova-net rather than neutron just to make sure everything else works20:15
Sam-I-Ampretty sure my problem was something goofy with neutron20:15
sgranyes, I think so20:15
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sgranneutron is more complicated, but also more flexible20:15
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sgranit depends what you need, and what your long term plans for this are20:15
sgranI suspect in nova-network will start to become deprecated at some point20:16
Sam-I-Amoh, i dont want to use nova-net long term20:16
Sam-I-Amhowever, i do want to make sure my head is screwed on straight for all the other components of openstack20:16
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sgrannod, makes sense20:17
Sam-I-Amthen i think i need to build a better understanding of ovs in general20:18
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sgranwell, feel free to ask - if I'm around, I'll try to answer :)20:21
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Sam-I-Amwill do!20:24
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nagyzanybody using ceph with ephemeral disks?20:44
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dsockwellAnyone have puppetlabs-openstack (stable/grizzly) working on Debian Wheezy? I followed the instructions at http://www.puppetforge.com/puppetlabs/openstack and ran openstack::all on a node (with an addition of mysql_root_password) and now puppet tells me Invalid parameter provider at /etc/puppet/environments/development/modules/nova/manifests/rabbitmq.pp:33 on node ostack-test0.localdomain21:14
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dsockwelli feel like i might have a conflict in my rabbitmq puppet module21:16
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edgyHi, being new to openstack if I installed it on machine with a public ip, when I create an instance would it use that same ip or do I need to have multiple IP's on the host for each instance?21:27
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browndwarfedgy: I'm trying to reason through that now. AFAIK there isn't any sort of built-in reverse proxy that will listen on one public and IP and route based on hostname... i'm anxiously waiting for something like that though. maybe i just missed something in the docs?21:44
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browndwarfbut it would be really cool to be able to get to hosts like host1.myopenstack.com21:44
edgybrowndwarf: so to keep things simple for now I would pay for more ip's and then would openstack recognize them automatically or I need somehow to tell it how to use them?21:45
nagyzwhat's the best practice currently to auto-deploy compute nodes with pxe?21:46
nagyzthey should all have the same config in my case21:46
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browndwarfThat makes sense to me. I'm at the same stage you're at now. I have a dev environment we've been building for several months, and now I need to stand up production with public-ips21:46
browndwarfso if you figure anything out edgy, let me know :)21:46
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edgybrowndwarf: ok21:47
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nagyzhm22:00
nagyzmissed the question there.22:00
nagyzwas there any? :)22:00
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nagyzI actually do have an internal havana based cloud up and running22:00
* nagyz is happy22:00
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lifelessnagyz: \o/22:01
nagyzlifeless!22:01
nagyz:)22:01
nagyzit has been working ever since22:01
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lifelessgood stuff22:01
nagyzgot all the storage over on ceph22:01
nagyzeven ephemeral disks22:01
lifelesscool22:02
lifeless10Gbps?22:02
lifelesshow's it perform?22:02
nagyzyep, 10g22:02
nagyzwell, currently hitting some bottleneck (we think it's CPU)22:02
nagyzgetting around 450MB/s out of 16 SSDs for random writes with nr_replicas=222:02
nagyzthe ceph guys told me that's actually around 1800MB/s physical IO going down to the disks22:03
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nagyzso in the next box (we're expanding... :P), I'll try to get a bigger cpu22:03
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lifeless4x multiplier  wheee22:05
nagyzwell22:05
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nagyzthe 2x multiplier is okay, that's because of the replication22:06
nagyzI have no idea where the other 2* is coming from22:06
nagyzany idea how could I export this into one .patch file easily?22:06
nagyzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/44640/22:06
nagyzI need to get used to this system if I want to contribute code...22:06
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dsockwellFor a new openstack installation (my first) should I choose Grizzly or Havana?22:22
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nagyzhavana.22:26
dsockwellthanks22:26
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nagyzany idea guys how could I hide some functionality from horizon?22:27
nagyzI guess I could write my own module to do this customization22:27
nagyzbut have no idea where to put it22:27
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