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h6wIn horizon, what should I be seeing in the Network ports under "Attached Device"?  I currently have one "compute:None" for each instance, but that doesn't sound right.04:47
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sivanovHello, can I create an instance without launching it?06:39
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sivanovcan I create an instance without launching it?07:06
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sgranasking the same question more than once probably isn't going to help07:06
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wondrasivanov: you can create it in the sense that you prepare an image or copy an OS to a volume.07:07
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sgranyou can't, as far as I know, create a new 'server' instance and then not launch it07:08
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wondraI've got an interesting problem. I've copied the openstack controller node from one computer to another, it worked for some time, but now the service nova-compute refuses to connect. nova-cert on the nodes is registered. When I redirect a node to the old installation, it works. Any ideas?07:12
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smcavoywondra: what do you mean by "refuses to connect"07:26
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wondraIt's not seen in "nova-manage services list"07:26
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D30hi how do we configure neutron on a single node openstack deployment?07:31
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D30i already installed neutron and its services.. but dont know if it needs to add bridge?07:32
D30btw, im using openVswitch07:32
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wondraD30: you should pre-create br-ex, br-tun and br-int as OVS bridges.07:33
D30hmmnn07:34
D30im confused wondra07:34
D30in my single node07:34
D30i have 2 interfaces07:34
D30etho(10.x.x.x) and eth1(connected to internet)07:35
wondrayou add the external one to br-ex07:35
D30i have already this br-ex, br-tun and br-in07:35
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wondrait should be called br-int as integration. And maybe leave br-in as well. My setup only has 1 interface.07:36
D30but dont know if this is right  > ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth107:36
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D30wondra: you mean that way above ^07:37
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wondraThat seems right.07:37
D30so it means add that bridge to the interface that has an internet connection right?07:37
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D30thank you for your help.. i will try it first.. :)07:38
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sheldonhi'm following the "Basic sample architecture" (one controller, one compute node) OS installation guide for RHEL, CentOS & Fedora (http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/index.html) and ran into the problem of instances not being able to reach the metadata service. a simple solution seems to be to move the nova-api service to the compute node, so that nova-api and nova-network are in the same place. but that07:41
sheldonhdoesn't... feel right. i'm going to add another compute node soon, and then i doubt i can fire up nova-network on that too07:41
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sheldonhwith more than one compute node, do you configure nova-network on all of them?07:43
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Azendale1so, I got openstack all working in a test environment for the first time :)   Any suggestions on what I should try using as a client? As I understand it, you should be able to use tools that can use the EC2 API? Or is there something better than the amazon tools?07:45
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D30Azendale1: is your networking okay?07:47
D30i mean your vm can get out the net?07:47
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Azendale1D30: I don't know at this point. I know the machines running the openstack system are able to, but I don't know about whatever virtual machines I might create on openstack07:48
D30have you tried launching and instance?07:48
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Azendale1D30: no. I'm at the point where I'm like great, I got it working! And then I realize I'm not quite sure how you would go about testing it. I know that you have to put your VM images in a special format, so I was thinking of using an Ubuntu image because as I understand it, they have pre packaged images07:51
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D30yeah thats right Azendale107:54
D30i just want to know if networking is okay... cause thats my problem right now :(07:54
wondraI've got nova-compute broken :-(07:55
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D30wondra: your doing it in a multi node setup?07:57
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wondraD30: Of course.07:59
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sheldonhany advice on debugging why the DNAT rule for the metadata service doesn't work on my compute node? i don't even see the packets counted in the PREROUTING chain's pkts counter for nova-network-PREROUTING08:07
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wondrasheldonh: I guess you could have the address wrong in some config file or metadata proxying turned off.08:09
wondra..but I'm using Quantum.08:09
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sheldonhwondra: metadata proxying. i haven't heard of it up until now. will hunt, thanks :)08:15
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sheldonhwondra: oh i see. neutron-only :)08:16
sheldonhi think maybe nova-network, while making it easy to explore openstack on a single computer, is getting in my way with two08:17
sheldonhis my head going to explode if i try neutron on day 2 of my openstack journey?08:17
wondraLikely yes.08:17
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sheldonhokay. then i need to find out whether it's okay to run nova-api and nova-network on every compute node when there is more than one compute node08:18
sheldonhif so, i can just carry on with nova-network for now08:19
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D30can you point some how to on how to configure neutron on a single node with 2 nics?08:24
D30i find it hard to configure :(08:24
D30i know the basics but i guess its not enough08:24
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sivanovcan I edit an instance metadata from the python client?08:25
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sheldonh"CRITICAL nova [-] no such option: metadata_workers" ... but... but... it's in the havana docs! http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-compute.html#d6e148208:27
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sheldonhhmmm. even when i run the metadata service on the compute node, i still can't curl http://169.254.169.254 (although i can curl http://$my_ip:8775/)08:37
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sheldonhi don't buy it. i reckon the install guide for the basic sample architecture (controller + compute) is broken08:55
sheldonhthere's no way this metadata service works for anyone out of the box08:55
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sheldonhwhat are other people trying as a next step after the "everything on one box" experience?08:56
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sheldonhif anyone else gets stuck with instances that can't reach the metadata server with the install guide for basic sample architecture (controller and compute node), tell them to bring up the nova-metadata-api service (not nova-api) on the compute node10:19
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sheldonhcould someone check my 2 comments at http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-boot.html#comment-1091883821 and let me know whether i should file a bug (against the install guide, not openstack)?   :)10:23
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Loquacityhey sheldonh, without testing the issue, it certainly seems to me as though that's a bug in the doc that needs to be fixed.10:41
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sheldonhLoquacity: alrighty then. i will risk looking (more) stupid. thanks :)10:45
Loquacitysheldonh: you can always blame me if that happens ;)10:45
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sheldonhexcellent. a meat shield :)10:48
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Loquacitydammit. what have i gotten myself into here?10:50
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sheldonhcontinuous improvement :)10:52
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Loquacitylol10:53
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sheldonhanyway, let me get that done before i move onto horizon, which also seems to have a docbug in it. and then... liquid lunch10:53
Loquacityenjoy :)10:54
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sheldonhLoquacity: i will wait to see if there is flamage before whipping you out as a trump card: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1243157 :)10:59
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sheldonhha! my horizon dashboard is much simpler. an selinux violation. avc:  denied  { name_connect } for  pid=6549 comm="httpd" dest=500011:08
sheldonhsomething familiar11:08
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sheldonhgiven that this is the installation guide for rhel, centos and fedora, selinux is a given. docbug for this also?11:15
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mrungesheldonh, I would guess so.11:17
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amritanshu_RnDcan anyone help to resolve this erroe a bug11:42
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amritanshu_RnDDon't have permission to delete a volume in error state11:42
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sheldonhif my instance migrations across compute nodes fail because of an SSH error ("Host key verification failed"), is that because i've failed to configure something, or am i just expected to keep user nova's known_hosts files up to date across the cluster?12:23
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foexlekoolhead17: heyho how are you man :)12:32
koolhead17foexle: am great. how have you been? long time :)12:32
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foexlekoolhead17: it was indeed :) .... yeah i'm very well the sun is shining come back from budapest last week and it was amazing ... nice city :)12:34
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koolhead17foexle: i envy you. :P12:35
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foexlekoolhead17: maybe do you know if the the replicas count on swift rings smaller then 3 are working ? because i see every time in all examples the replica count of 3 but nowhere a descrition if the replica and failover is working with 2 replicas12:35
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koolhead17foexle: its suggested to have minimum 3.12:37
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foexlekoolhead17: hmmm ok it's like replica set in mongodb .... but why 3 where's any documentation about that :(12:38
julweberis there any explanation for the minimum of 3?12:38
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JabadiaHi, what is the best way to attach a volume to a VM which is a complete host HDD ?12:39
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koolhead17julweber: foexle has answer now :)12:48
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julweber:) thanks a lot12:49
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sheldonhis this install guide in a git repo that i can submit pull requests against?13:03
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DandyPandyhi everyone. With devstack, is setting it to use havana as simple as checking out the havana branch for the services? I was running into an error about missing a migration script when trying to do 'nova-manage db sync'.13:03
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sheldonhDandyPandy: was it perhaps a missing migration for cinder?13:08
DandyPandysheldonh: no, it was nova13:08
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sheldonhDandyPandy: oh. then i'm useless to you. sorry for the noise :)13:08
DandyPandyheh13:09
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koolhead17sheldonh: check the openstack-manual repo inside openstack branch on github13:13
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sheldonhkoolhead17: wicked, thanks!13:17
koolhead17julweber: np. :)13:17
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sheldonhkoolhead17: this? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/install-guide13:18
koolhead17yes13:18
koolhead17ekarlso: around13:18
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sheldonhdoes the openstack-cinder-volume service need its own mysql instance when run on a different node from openstack-cinder-api?13:20
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sheldonhas i read the install guide, you create a database for openstack-cinder-api, and openstack-cinder-volume doesn't interact directly with that database13:22
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amritanshu_RnD    raise exception.ISCSITargetCreateFailed(volume_id=vol_id) ISCSITargetCreateFailed: Failed to create iscsi target for volume volume13:44
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amritanshu_RnDplease help me with this error anyone13:45
IRC_Homelesscan anyone mention an easy-to-read-and-introduce article link about the SCRUM method?Wikipedia's one seems to be complicated and long for a beginner like me.(Field is software development)13:45
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sheldonhIRC_Homeless: https://www.scrum.org/Resources/What-is-Scrum13:47
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IRC_Homelesssheldonh, thank you13:47
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sheldonhwoohoo! my first volume-attach :)14:03
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sheldonhhaaaang on a second... my bash history in a cirros instance just survived a reboot. i thought it booted from a read-only image...14:17
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sheldonhqcow snapshot, perhaps?14:20
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gmisheldonh: what was rebooted? the cirros instance?14:21
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sheldonhgmi: yessir14:28
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gmisheldonh:the instance doesn't survive if you terminate it, not if you reboot it14:29
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sheldonhgmi: aha! mystery solved. thank you :)14:31
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sheldonhgmi: except... i did a nova stop and a nova start, and bash history survived. it *must* be using something in /var/lib/nova/instances, shirley :)14:34
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gmisheldonh:I'm not sure I understand what you mean, can you please clarify? stopping the nova service has no effect on a running instance14:35
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sheldonhgmi: um... i do nova stop instanceid... i thought that meant the instance stopped running.14:36
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jlibosvavladan vladan_ it's because of nested virt14:37
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vladanjlibosva: what are you reffering to?14:40
jlibosvajlibosva: stuck libvirt, instance in error state - we just talked about it14:41
jlibosvavladan ^14:41
* jlibosva should stop talking to myself14:41
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gmisheldonh: that command is indeed stopping the instance, but it doesn't delete it so when you start it again it's using the same disk14:46
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Chocobodoes anyone know of any "nightly snapshot" package for snapshotting vms on a regular interval?14:52
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ChocoboI wrote some sctipts but they are pretty crude.14:53
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amartellonesomeone, has an experience on cinder with NFS?which NFS did you use?14:55
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gmiChocobo: take a look at this and let us know how/if it works: http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=veta#query:veta+page:1+mid:vxt2vvylsxyziphd+state:results15:00
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sheldonhgmi: right. so i misunderstood what happened when you create a new instance based on an image. looks like it creates a qcow2 copy-on-write image for the disk, using the image you selected for the instance as a starting point. sound sane?15:07
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gmisheldonh:correct, if you use the default format which is qcow215:08
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sheldonhgmi: sanity restored. thanks for the patience :)15:08
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Chocobothanks gmi15:23
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Chocobogmi: are there any version dependencies with veta?  will it work with Grizzly?15:28
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gmiChocobo:I have no idea, I didn't try it :) tha's why I said you should tell us know if/how it works :)15:31
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gmiChocobo: sorry for the bad English, I'm getting hungry ...15:32
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BadaHI guys. I'm trying to build my UbuntuCloud image. I followed the official doc but when i deploy the instance it has no names, no o ssh keys and so on. Any idea of what i misssed ?15:34
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CaptainTacoSauceHi guys, I keep getting the following error even though I set rabbit_host in neutron.conf to be a remote host. 989 ERROR neutron.openstack.common.rpc.common [-] AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable15:36
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Chocobogmi: haha no problem, me too.15:38
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gmiCaptainTacoSauce: check if there is another neutron.conf in your filesystem that might default to localhost for rabbitmq15:39
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CaptainTacoSaucegmi: Thanks for the response. I only see the /etc/neutron/neutron.conf I've configured and a bunch of neutron.conf.test files that I wouldn't expect would interfere.15:40
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CaptainTacoSauceI also wasn't sure about these lines, but Googling suggests they're correct. rpc_backend = neutron.openstack.common.rpc.impl_kombu and control_exchange = neutron15:42
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gmiCaptainTacoSauce: how did you specify the remote rabbit host in neutron.conf?15:47
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CaptainTacoSaucegmi: Trying to avoid flooding, but I set the following: rabbit_host = 192.168.0.142, rabbit_password = password, rabbit_port = 5672, rabbit_userid = neutron, rabbit_virtual_host = /neutron15:48
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CaptainTacoSauceThe weird thing is my rabbit server's logs actually show the connection: accepting AMQP connection <0.29230.0> (192.168.0.139:44234 -> 192.168.0.142:5672)15:49
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DandyPandyWith devstack, is setting it to use havana as simple as checking out the havana branch for the services? I was running into an error about missing a migration script when trying to do 'nova-manage db sync'. 2013-10-22 15:50:11.156 CRITICAL nova [-] There is no script for 217 version15:51
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gmiCaptainTacoSauce: yes, it's pretty weird; is that log recent?15:53
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CaptainTacoSaucegmi: That was my fault too. I've run 'date' and then checked the log and monitored. It runs every 30 seconds. It really is getting that error, and I've restarted all the services.15:54
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CaptainTacoSauceerrr: That was my *thought* too.15:54
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klindgrenCaptainTacoSauce - Just checking... you have created a user neutron with a password of password in rabbitmq?15:57
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CaptainTacoSauceklindgren: I have. sudo rabbitmqctl list_users shows neutron, and the rabbit log posted above suggests it accepts the credentials. Also, the neutron shows the rabbit host as localhost but that's not right.15:59
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CaptainTacoSauceWould it be any of these other files? /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini or /etc/neutron/l3_agent.ini? I've set the rabbit_host almost everywhere but my log entry doesn't tell me which config file it pulled localhost from.16:02
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gmiCaptainTacoSauce: the config file's location is defined in "/etc/init/neutron-server.conf"; you can stop the service, then run "strace service neutron-server start" and see what config file is using16:05
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CaptainTacoSaucegmi: Okay heh, I think you pointed me to the answer. Apparently I restarted a bunch of services but not the one that mattered, I somehow missed neutron-server. Derp. Thanks!16:08
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gmiCaptainTacoSauce:welcome16:09
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jfarschmanIs there a way to remove a user's ability to see the snapshot button in the openstack-dashboard?16:28
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jfarschmanif I'm pointed in the right direction I'd love to know how to limit a few things.  My users things snapshots are cooler than they really are.16:29
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tombuchi guys, thanks for OpenStack! I have a problem that drives me crazy - I get ENETUNREACH errors at different places in the code when I want vms in parallel16:36
tombucI use only one interface that is attached to a bridge16:37
tombucthe interface has no IP itself, but this IP is attached to br100 via DHCP16:37
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tombuchas anybody hit this? (btw. I use puppet scripts here: http://puppetforge.com/puppetlabs/openstack and flatnetworking)16:40
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imstighow ya doing? I'm trying to put an image together, its CentOS6.x,  single ext4 /  with cloud-init.  How are people going about getting the partition to be resized correctly when the client spins up. I can't seem to get growpart to work.16:43
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tombuchttp://paste.openstack.org/show/IMdszAt5VLDIP8zaX0x7/ - controller nova.conf & http://paste.openstack.org/show/I2tL26jce6SlA8ayrVUc/ - computes nova.conf16:44
tombucI'd appreciate your help... :)16:44
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q3kCan Glance-api be started as an HTTPS endpoint?16:57
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q3kI see options related to registry connection https, but nothing to the API server itself.16:57
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dmlb2000Is there a wiki page with all the service account passwords somewhere?16:59
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dmlb2000where the passwords are located in what config files etc...17:00
imstigdmlb2000:  you set them yourself17:00
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dmlb2000imstig: when?17:01
dmlb2000imstig: I only set the admin password, did the rest of the service accounts get that password too?17:01
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dmlb2000imstig: I'm using packstack btw17:02
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imstigthey probably use the same password though17:03
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dmlb2000imstig: well if I want to change it in keystone what config files do I look in to change it there?17:04
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imstigthe passwords are stored in your database17:04
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dmlb2000so cinder accesses mysql to get the password to talk with the other services?17:05
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zynzeldmlb2000: api-paste.ini.17:06
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imstigyour cinder config will have the keystone info in it17:06
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dmlb2000then what about glance? neutron? nova? ceilometer? heat? there seems to be getting so many components all with different users managing service account passwords is a pain...17:07
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zynzelevery service has his own api-paste.ini.17:08
imstigdmlb2000: welcome to the cloud17:08
imstig:-)17:08
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Chocobogmi: can veta run as active/active on multiple controller nodes?17:14
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Chocobogmi: I am thinking about trying to install it on our production cluster... I am a bit nervous :)17:14
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arnanhelp17:18
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gmiChocobo:I know nothing more about Veta than what was in that email17:20
Chocobogmi: ok, thanks.17:21
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Chocobogmi: well... veta seemed to install ok.  I won't know how it works until backups begin I guess.17:51
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imstigAnyone know why if iptables is running i can't reach any of my nodes, if I flush it I can ssh to them fine.18:27
imstigon the hypervisor that is18:27
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imstigas far as I can tell, this is normal stuff from openvswitch, but I don't get how thats stopping traffic hititng the vm's18:27
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gizmohNot sure if this is the right place, but I'm wondering if anyone can help me troubleshoot a "cloud-init-nonet" problem? Should I ask on the neutron channel?18:48
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monstanyone know where to get RHEL base templates18:57
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xaviouxLooking for Havana working neutron.conf, anyone?19:14
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klindgrenmonst, http://openstack.redhat.com/Image_resources specifcally https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/software/channel/downloads/Download.do?cid=1695219:16
klindgrenyou need a RHEL subscription19:16
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monstgot it =)19:20
monstthanks19:20
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steve_ipcHey has anyone ever seen this? I'm trying to call glance.images.create from a celery task and this was the result:19:23
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glanceclient/common/base.py", line 93, in __getattr__19:23
steve_ipc    if not self.is_loaded():19:23
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/glanceclient/common/base.py", line 125, in is_loaded19:23
steve_ipc    return self._loaded19:23
steve_ipcRuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object19:23
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steve_ipcThis was the beginning of the traceback:19:24
steve_ipcTraceback (most recent call last):19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/celery/worker/__init__.py", line 356, in start19:24
steve_ipc    component.start()19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/celery/worker/consumer.py", line 393, in start19:24
steve_ipc    self.consume_messages()19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/celery/worker/consumer.py", line 478, in consume_messages19:24
steve_ipc    readers[fileno](fileno, event)19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/billiard/pool.py", line 664, in handle_event19:24
steve_ipc    self._it.next()19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/billiard/pool.py", line 637, in _process_result19:24
steve_ipc    ready, task = poll(timeout)19:24
steve_ipc  File "/opt/env/atmo/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/billiard/pool.py", line 1059, in _poll_result    return True, self._quick_get()19:24
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gmiChocobo: did you install Veta on Grizzly or Havana?19:28
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Kattyholy crap that's a lot of people19:29
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erwan_tafKatty: indeed19:29
Kattyand i thought 210 in the asterisk channel was a lot!19:29
erwan_tafthat's the most crowded irc channel I have ever seen19:29
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xaviouxMaybe some nice person here can share a working neutron.conf for Havana?19:37
xaviouxOnline doc so messed up!19:39
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Chocobogmi: Grizzly19:44
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gmiChocobo:what's your Glance backend?19:46
Chocobogmi: filestore (NFS)19:47
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ChocoboHrmmm, I don't think it is working.20:04
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Chocobo/var/log/nova/veta-manager.log:2013-10-22 16:02:39.338 16905 ERROR nova.manager [-] Error during VetaManager._run_periodic_tasks: 401 Unauthorized   hrmmm.20:05
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gizmohAnyone know what would cause slow networking with neutron in instances? Networking seems to work fine albeit an order of magnitude slower...20:26
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carnalerhello room20:44
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zxvffyes hello20:44
daMaestrosteve_ipc, please use a pastebin next time20:44
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DandyPandyMost of my nova knowledge is kind of old, so this may seem silly, but under current nova, are aggregates still a thing?21:47
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jfcastroanybody can help me with neutron?22:22
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jfcastroI have Openstack all in a node with only 2 IPs and I would like config only one instance with public IP22:23
jfcastroany ideas?22:23
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vuilHi all, is there a paste.openstack.org equivalent for images?23:03
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vkmcvuil, No, but most users use imgur23:05
vuilthanx23:05
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