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| bzhtux | hi everybody, i've got a question about volume attachement : i can attach a volume when i launch a new instance (in the creation window), but i can't attache any volume after instance has launched - the only error msg is : iscsi_trgt: scsi_cmnd_start(1059) Unsupported 85 (from storage syslog) - why this different behavior ? and why i can't attach a volume after the VM has launched ? thanks in advance | 09:01 |
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| bzhtux | i found an error on my compute node in nova-compute.log : libvirtError: unsupported configuration: disk bus 'ide' cannot be hotplugged | 09:04 |
| bzhtux | i have a look on this side | 09:04 |
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| bzhtux | i tried to attech my volume as /dev/sdX to let libvirt understand that is iscsi format and no ide but i got the same issue ... anyone have an idea ? | 09:22 |
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| bereal | hi, is there any known memory leaks in swift-object-server? top shows like 1.3G of virt mem. | 10:13 |
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| Anju | anybody around? | 10:24 |
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| decede | Anju: yep whats up? | 10:44 |
| Anju | decede: hii | 10:44 |
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| Anju | i am facing a problem | 10:45 |
| Anju | in dashboard | 10:45 |
| Anju | i did multinode setup | 10:45 |
| Anju | all components are running | 10:45 |
| Anju | but dashboard is not working | 10:45 |
| Anju | only the home page is accessible | 10:46 |
| Anju | decede: ^^^ | 10:46 |
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| decede | What errors are you seeing? | 10:50 |
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| decede | Anju: error messages I mean | 10:50 |
| Anju | some internal problem occurs | 10:50 |
| Anju | The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. | 10:50 |
| decede | is there anything more specific in the log files? /var/log/apache2/error.log? | 10:53 |
| Anju | decede: fflineGenerationError: You have offline compression enabled but key "3ddd89d27fa2e162d4efd30c103a072b" is missing from offline manifest. You may need to run "python manage.py compress"., referer: http://10.0.9.12//horizon/auth/login/ | 10:54 |
| decede | I've never seen that error so I can't help much but what happens if you run `python manage.py compress`? | 10:55 |
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| Anju | i do not know | 10:56 |
| Anju | i follow the full procedure | 10:56 |
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| amritanshu | how to install openstack-config in ubuntu 12.04 | 11:39 |
| amritanshu | plz help | 11:39 |
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| Madan | amritanshu : r u new to openstack ?? | 11:41 |
| amritanshu | no | 11:42 |
| amritanshu | but what packages are there for ubuntu | 11:42 |
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| Madan | devstack | 11:42 |
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| amritanshu | i had done which devstack | 11:43 |
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| amritanshu | now using openstack grizzly for 12.04LTS | 11:43 |
| Madan | just go to www.devstack.org | 11:43 |
| Madan | it'll have the latest version .. | 11:43 |
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| Madan | follow the steps given there | 11:44 |
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| amritanshu | thanx madan possibly it works | 11:45 |
| Madan | np,, i'm sure it would help u | 11:46 |
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| dmi | hey all | 11:49 |
| dmi | nova keypair-list shows a list of keypairs when run as my admin user, but not when run as someone else who is also an admin -- what's going on? :-/ | 11:49 |
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| Qlawy | dmi: isnt it connected with user? | 11:50 |
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| dmi | Qlawy: argh, I hadn't seen anything suggesting that was the case | 11:50 |
| dmi | I assumed they were global | 11:50 |
| Qlawy | dmi: hmm, lets check db | 11:50 |
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| Qlawy | dmi: hmm… for me, database construction looks like keypair is connected with user | 11:52 |
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| Qlawy | dmi: its definitely not globally what is rather logical | 11:52 |
| sgran | keypairs are per-user | 11:53 |
| dmi | bah | 11:53 |
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| dmi | I'd just assumed they were global | 11:53 |
| Qlawy | dmi: columns in key_pairs table: id, name, user_id, fingerprint, public_key | 11:53 |
| dmi | that's a pain :) | 11:53 |
| Qlawy | depends what do you need ;) | 11:54 |
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| dmi | I wanted to pre-import keypairs for the rest of the ops team | 11:55 |
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| dmi | just manually updated it | 11:57 |
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| wastrel | i'm installing my first devstack | 14:17 |
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| jixen | Question on tunnelling protocol support in Quantum/Neutron. Seems OVS and GRE is well supported but what about STT with OVS ? | 14:18 |
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| vkmc | wastrel, Cool! | 14:24 |
| zynzel | jixen: afaik ovs dont support stt | 14:25 |
| zynzel | and there is no free ready stt implementation. | 14:25 |
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| jixen | zynzel: Oh thx ! Did not knew. | 14:25 |
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| jixen | zynzel: I could not find any real paper on the actual overhead of GRE. Have any experience with it ? | 14:26 |
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| zynzel | jixen: yes, but cant talk about this. | 14:26 |
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| zynzel | for know at least. :) | 14:26 |
| zynzel | now* | 14:26 |
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| jixen | zynzel : Ok. If you have some time later ping me | 14:27 |
| zynzel | jixen: http://networkheresy.com/2012/06/08/the-overhead-of-software-tunneling/ | 14:27 |
| zynzel | you can read this | 14:27 |
| zynzel | but there is only info about throughtput | 14:27 |
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| zynzel | no jiter, mac table performance, # of gre tunnels | 14:28 |
| zynzel | etc. | 14:28 |
| jixen | Yeah I read that one and I couldnt beleive it was that bad | 14:28 |
| zynzel | you can simply check that with 2 servers with 10gbit link ;) | 14:28 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | Hey all, I'm running into an issue with the spicehtml5proxy, I was wondering if anyone could help. I'm getting an "Timeout while waiting on RPC response." error. I think i've narrowed it down to an issue with the MQ (I'm using rabbit), but looking through nova.conf everything looks set up correctly. I also see what I think is the message being deposited in the queue (from the debug log), but it still hangs. I don't want to pass the full stack trace | 14:30 |
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| amritanshu | can anyone tell me how to make qemu available for cloud controller as already I have qemu on my comute vm | 14:38 |
| amritanshu | how to give reference to controller node | 14:39 |
| amritanshu | please help | 14:39 |
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| Qlawy | amritanshu: dont understand what do you need Oo | 14:45 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | So, getting a bit farther. looks like this is where it times out. | 14:52 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | 2013-09-13 09:24:04.696 DEBUG nova.openstack.common.rpc.common [req-cca3b237-00ff-4d07-a0b6-8284f37bb4ad cda226f769c149b0be8f3dffc7e1fede 852b6ec1bf8044d6b7fd5864be16606a] Timed out waiting for RPC response: timed out _error_callback /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/rpc/impl_kombu.py:628 | 14:52 |
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| carnaler | sorry, does anyone know how to fix this "Returning exception Zero fixed ips available. to caller"? or what cause it? i've been playing with private range also with a "public" / routed subnet | 15:00 |
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| carnaler | but still cannot made it to work at all | 15:02 |
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| gmi | badams: did you fix your Neutron setup? | 15:15 |
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| badams | gmi: hey, yeah i actually did | 15:16 |
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| badams | gmi: thanks for your help | 15:16 |
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| gmi | badams:what was the issue in the end? | 15:16 |
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| badams | gmi: seemed like the external network i created and the one i was trying to place it on weren't lined up correctly, so i had to manually edit the subnet and dns to match up | 15:18 |
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| badams | subnet mask i mean | 15:19 |
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| badams | gmi: now i'm having bosh issues but this isn't the place for that | 15:19 |
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| gmi | badams:so you're still having problems with it? no connectivity to your instances? | 15:22 |
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| badams | gmi: well it seems like my microbosh instance is rejecting icmp and ssh even though the sec group has them enabled | 15:25 |
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| badams | gmi: and at first i could get into them, but now i can't. strange situation. | 15:26 |
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| badams | just kidding, i can get into them now | 15:27 |
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| gmi | badams: Friday 13th | 15:27 |
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| badams | gmi: haha didn't even notice | 15:28 |
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| badams | gmi: but i guess i'm doomed to failure today | 15:28 |
| badams | gmi: or just seeing weird stuff | 15:28 |
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| wahly | my VMs are not getting DHCP leases when booting up. my symptoms are identical to this guys: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-July/011623.html any ideas on why the dhcp requests aren't making it past to br-eth0 (and beyond)? | 15:55 |
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| azziz | !list | 16:08 |
| openstack | azziz: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, Services, and User | 16:08 |
| azziz | ciao | 16:08 |
| azziz | !list | 16:09 |
| openstack | azziz: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, Services, and User | 16:09 |
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| cloudgeek | koolhead17: hi | 16:10 |
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| gmi | wahly:are the switch ports defined as trunk ports and vlans 100 to 1000 allowed? | 16:11 |
| wahly | yes | 16:12 |
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| gmi | wahly:do you see any macs learned on the compute switch port on vlan 100 or so? | 16:12 |
| wahly | the odd thing is, it randomly started working after doing a bunch of tcpdumps. i rebooted the host, and the issue has come back | 16:12 |
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| gmi | wahly:are you using namespaces? | 16:13 |
| wahly | i have namespaces = True | 16:13 |
| wahly | not sure if i'm "using them", per se | 16:13 |
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| gmi | wahly:well, if running "ip netns list" shows multiple namespaces then you are using them | 16:14 |
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| wahly | on the network node or the compute node? | 16:14 |
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| gmi | wahly:on the network node | 16:14 |
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| wahly | ya, i'm seeing a bunch of "qrouter-<uuid>" items | 16:14 |
| wahly | and "qdhcp-<uuid>" | 16:15 |
| gmi | wahly: read this post http://techbackground.blogspot.ca/2013/07/the-open-vswitch-plugin-with-vlans.html | 16:15 |
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| gmi | wahly: find the qdhcp namespace where you have the dhcp server running for your project's subnet and do a tcpdump to see if the dhcp packets from the instance get there | 16:16 |
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| wahly | gmi: i'll give that a shot, thanks | 16:16 |
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| gmi | if interested in the Neutron performance based on OVS and GRE, take a look at these tests: http://paste.openstack.org/show/MmEW8xMWlYPZ0iyS7YCq/ | 16:28 |
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| MCLinux | anyone using RDO | 16:40 |
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| MCLinux | there is no neutron on this packstack install | 16:43 |
| gmi | MCLinux: try in the rdo channel (http://openstack.redhat.com/Get_involved) | 16:43 |
| MCLinux | can't get IPs | 16:43 |
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| wastrel | is RDO an acronym or just RDO | 16:59 |
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| gmi | wastrel:just RDO | 17:01 |
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| gmi | wastrel: http://openstack.redhat.com/Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_does_RDO_stand_for.3F | 17:05 |
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| wastrel | i should have thought to check the faq | 17:06 |
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| hootjr | Hi all. | 17:14 |
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| hootjr | I just posted this in #rdo, but I'm not sure if that channel is geared more towards coding or support. | 17:14 |
| hootjr | so I figured I'd come over here and ask the same question | 17:14 |
| hootjr | hopefully a quick question that someone can help me with - I am a long time Xen user that am looking at openstack. So I've followed the quick start for grizzly + Neutron and believe I have the networks setup properly with IP's available. | 17:14 |
| hootjr | I've launched a cirrus image. And even though an IP has been allocated to it, the IP is unavailable inside the vm. Can someone point me in the right direction to try to troubleshoot why the IP is not being added inside the vm? | 17:15 |
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| cody-somerville | hootjr: What do you mean by the IP is unavailable inside the VM? | 17:16 |
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| hootjr | well, I'm used to dealing with OVM and making sure my vm's get connected the proper bridge with a proper VLAN tag associated with it. With OpenStack, as I understand it, there is an internal IP that gets used for the vm. And the floating IP would then allow you to map real world networking into that vm. Am I thinking about this correctly? | 17:17 |
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| hootjr | either way, when I connect into the console and do an ifconfig, there is no IP associated with eth0. And since I'm thinking that there must be api at work to inject the IP into the vm that maybe there is an error along the way where that part failed to happen. | 17:19 |
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| gmi | hootjr:I'm not familiar with rdo, but are you running all services in a single node? | 17:33 |
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| hootjr | yep | 17:33 |
| hootjr | RDO is essentially red hat's push to make a fedora-like project so they can test openstack | 17:33 |
| hootjr | openstack.redhat.com | 17:34 |
| cjellick | anyone use and/or have much success with anvil? | 17:34 |
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| gmi | hootjr:I know what it is, I just never used it; do you have a namespaces defined? | 17:34 |
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| hootjr | not sure.. is there a quick quantum command I can run check? | 17:34 |
| hootjr | I know I have netns in the kernel | 17:34 |
| gmi | hootjr: ip netns list | 17:35 |
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| hootjr | [root@openstack-ol6-node1 nova(keystone_admin)]# ip netns list | 17:35 |
| hootjr | qrouter-8545df0e-31c6-4fca-9c72-01c7041ad916 | 17:35 |
| hootjr | qdhcp-dc8f115c-ff9e-4a69-8422-836d37518a30 | 17:35 |
| hootjr | [root@openstack-ol6-node1 nova(keystone_admin)]# | 17:35 |
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| gmi | hootjr:try this "ip netns exec qdhcp-dc8f115c-ff9e-4a69-8422-836d37518a30 tcpdump -i any" while doing this in the console of the instance: udhcpc -R -n --timeout=60 -p /var/run/udhcpc.eth0.pid -i eth0 -O mtu | 17:37 |
| hootjr | Here's what my network looks like currently: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4BfKJjYWlMKd1BkMnIzdExhZVU&usp=sharing | 17:37 |
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| gmi | hootjr: also read this http://techbackground.blogspot.ca/2013/06/dnsmasq-logging-and-options-for-quantum.html and this http://techbackground.blogspot.ca/2013/05/debugging-quantum-dhcp-and-open-vswitch.html | 17:38 |
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| gmi | hootjr: you cannot connect an instance directly to the external network | 17:39 |
| hootjr | I'll try that and take a look at those. I also just found an "OpenStack Networking Hands-on Lab" that may be useful on youtube | 17:39 |
| hootjr | ah… that's probably my issue with that one then | 17:39 |
| hootjr | I just launched that fedora one… I'll see if that works. | 17:39 |
| gmi | hootjr: did your f19 instance get 192.168.0.201 ? | 17:40 |
| hootjr | I saw a bunch of api-related things on the console as it was still coming up (things like my ssh key being cc'd in and a few other | 17:40 |
| hootjr | I see "ci-info" logs | 17:41 |
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| hootjr | and it looks like it set the gateway properly, but the "Net device Info" portion doesn't show that it placed any IP address on there…. still trying to find a password for that image | 17:41 |
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| gmi | hootjr: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/3086/directly-connect-vm-to-external-network/ | 17:42 |
| hootjr | gotcha… so that definitely answers the question | 17:43 |
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| ryker | can anyone point me at a decent tutorial or video of using chef-shell to create a recipe and run it, and/or add a resource, modify the resource's options and run it? The once example in the chef docs isn't too helpful. | 18:02 |
| ryker | i'm not finding anything helpful when searching google and youtube for this. | 18:03 |
| leons_ | ryker, are you sold on Chef? Why not Ansible? Might quicker to get started | 18:03 |
| leons_ | What are you trying to accomplish? | 18:03 |
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| ryker | leons_: i think you misunderstand. I'm firmly planted in using chef. i just want to test something out in chef-shell | 18:04 |
| ryker | haven't used chef-shell/shef much | 18:04 |
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| BMDan | I know OpenStack has a public-facing motto/mission statement, but I'm thinking the technical-facing one should be, "Want to use OpenStack? Want to learn Python? Why not do both? Because you'll have to." /me beats his head against Quantum. | 18:15 |
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| wink | lol | 18:16 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | +1 Though I will say, quantum has been giving me the least trouble | 18:16 |
| wink | come to the dark side, we have PEP8 | 18:16 |
| BMDan | Oh, agreed, it's like a sewage pump; engineered for maximum durability, unlikely to ever fail, but BOY OH BOY is it exciting when something goes wrong! | 18:16 |
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| bswrchrd | anyone ever have an issue with GRE tunnel endpoint IP mismatches in Quantum? | 18:18 |
| finchd | BMDan: quote of the day right there | 18:18 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | I haven't tried GRE tunnels, I'm using VLAN, my problem is spicehtml5proxy is throwing an RPC timeout error :-\ | 18:19 |
| ryker | leons_: hah, sry, just realized I typed my question here in #openstack, meant to ask it in #chef. Sry for the noise. | 18:20 |
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| bswrchrd | RAX:that's not fun | 18:20 |
| leons_ | ryker, no problem | 18:20 |
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| BMDan | [RAX]Jeffe: At the risk of asking a dumb question, two dumb questions: | 18:23 |
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| BMDan | 1) Does get-vnc-console give you a functional link, and | 18:23 |
| BMDan | 2) Does novnc work? | 18:23 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | 1) haven't tried, 2) i was getting ready to try that next, but swapping out the stuff if a bit of a pain | 18:24 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | trying #1 now | 18:24 |
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| gmi | bswrchrd:can you give more details about "GRE tunnel endpoint IP mismatches in Quantum" ? | 18:24 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:surely, this is a fun one, I've got two compute nodes that are using GRE with OVS, both servers have two nics, eth0 and eth1, configured for dhcp but with static reservations | 18:26 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:the local_ip value in ovs_quantum_plugin is set to the IP addresses of each host's eth1 | 18:26 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:BUT | 18:26 |
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| jbrisko | Is there something special I have to do to make cloud-init work with openstack? I have seen a lot of documentation that says to point to 169.254.169.254 and some people saying to NAT that to my api service. However, the API service doesn't return the information found at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/user-data.html. When I curl those url's out, I get 404 error. I'm on Grizzly. | 18:26 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:i deploy a VM to one of the two hosts and the VM can't get a DHCP IP or, when statically configured, talk to anything | 18:27 |
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| gmi | bswrchrd:do you see the GRE tunnel up on the compute nodes when running "ovs-vsctl show" ? | 18:28 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:ovs-vsctl show has the correct entries for the tunnels and quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent is updating the OVS on each host | 18:28 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | jbrisko: if you're using quantum, you need to make sure that either the iptables rules are in place that will route it from the l3-agent to the metadata service, or the one I'm liking using is having the dhcp-agent proxy the metadata request | 18:28 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:i started a tcpdump session on eth1 filtering for GRE traffic and just happened to see a few DHCP requests come over the eth0 interface | 18:29 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:sorry the IP assigned to eth0 | 18:29 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | jbrisko: are you using the l3-agent? Also, there's a line in the quantum.conf and nova.conf that need to match to create a secured connection. I have to run right now, I'll see if I can find some documentation whenever I get back | 18:29 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:thought I would ask here before I start looking at the code | 18:29 |
| jbrisko | [RAX]Jeffe: I am using quantum. Do i need to set the iptables rules on the network controller, or each compute node? How can I test to be sure the metadata service? | 18:30 |
| jbrisko | [RAX]Jeffe: I appreciate your help. I'll be around | 18:30 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:quantum-plugin-ovs-agent should set the iptables on the compute nodes | 18:30 |
| grich | I've got OpenStack up and running on two nodes, one being the management and storage and the other a compute. I've got OpenStack Grizzly running on Ubuntu Wheezy and would like to use Quantum with VLAN support. I have the ports on the switch set for the correct trunks but can't seem to get OpenStack to correctly tag the traffic (using Open vSwitch). Any suggestions for docs other than the official? | 18:30 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:and the network node | 18:30 |
| jbrisko | How can I test the metadata to be sure it's correct. When I curl my api on port 8773 I get a 404 error | 18:31 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | BMDan: nova get-spice-console times out, throws back a 500, will have to dig more after meeting (I'm guessing the underlying 500 is still the rpc time out) | 18:32 |
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| jbrisko | shouldn't that return the date folders for cloud init? | 18:32 |
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| gmi | jbrisko: read this and see if it helps you: http://techbackground.blogspot.ie/2013/06/metadata-via-quantum-router.html and http://techbackground.blogspot.ca/2013/06/metadata-via-dhcp-namespace.html | 18:32 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:no, the metadata comes from 169.254.169.254 | 18:32 |
| jbrisko | okay, let me read this documentation | 18:32 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:read the blog posts that gmi just mentioned, they are good | 18:32 |
| jbrisko | thank you for your help! | 18:33 |
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| gmi | bswrchrd:so your instance traffic bypasses the GRE tunnels and uses the other interface? | 18:34 |
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| BMDan | jbrisko: May I also recommend setting the appropriate directive (force_config_drive, I think?) so you push out a config drive? It might be easier than fighting DHCP. | 18:35 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:that's what it looks like, i can see the traffic traverse the br-int patch port (qvo), any idea how can I sniff the traffic traversing the OVS tunnel bridge or one of the patch ports connecting the br-int and br-tun bridges? | 18:37 |
| gmi | bswrchrd: run "tcpdump -D" to see what ports can be listened to | 18:38 |
| gmi | bswrchrd: but you should check the most inner ports first, eth1 in your case | 18:40 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:yeah, I did that, the ports are what I would have expected, the tap, qvb, qbr, qvo interfaces | 18:40 |
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| gmi | bswrchrd:can you paste in pastebin the ovs output for compute and network node? | 18:41 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:sure | 18:41 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:http://paste.openstack.org/show/47029/ | 18:49 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:i was keeping a running list of some various things so I dumped all of the info into it | 18:49 |
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| doug_ | Has anyone here create and OpenStack enviroment using OpenVswitch and some sort of OpenFlow controller coupled with OpenFlow enabled physical network devices. | 18:53 |
| gmi | bswrchrd: your eth0 and eth1 are in the same subnet | 18:54 |
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| doug_ | Has anyone in here created an OpenStack environment using OVS and some sort of OpenFlow controller coupled with OpenFlow enabled physical network devices. | 18:56 |
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| badams | anyone know where the option "service_quantum_metadata_proxy" is located? | 18:58 |
| badams | cant seem to find it | 18:58 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:yep, that doesn't make a difference though | 19:01 |
| gmi | bswrchrd:but I bet your routing table has eth0 first | 19:02 |
| gmi | bswrchrd:I would manually assign static IPs on all eth1 interfaces in a different range (e.g. 10.0.100.0/24) | 19:03 |
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| bswrchrd | gmi:eh good point about the routing table, can't do anything about the IPs, it's at a client's site and they didn't want (or really won't) use separate subnets | 19:03 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:thanks for pointing that out though, for some reason I didn't think of that...oh well | 19:04 |
| bswrchrd | badams:nova.conf | 19:06 |
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| gmi | bswrchrd:the problem is that the eth0 will be preferred when sending traffic for the GRE tunnel; you could try and add a static route with a /32 forcing traffic to go over eth1 | 19:08 |
| badams | bsrrchrd: thanks. i didnt want to go plugging it in places and break something | 19:08 |
| bswrchrd | gmi:yep, working on that now | 19:08 |
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| gmi | badams: for future reference: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html | 19:09 |
| badams | gmi: forgot about that, thanks | 19:10 |
| badams | dur | 19:10 |
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| jbrisko | so, I think I have the network configured, when I curl from an instance, I get a 500 Error, Remote metadata server experienced an internal server error. Where should I be looking to see what this error is? | 19:11 |
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| bswrchrd | jbrisko:look at the quantum-metadata.log file on the network node | 19:37 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:you may want to enable debug also | 19:37 |
| jbrisko | I got it working now! Thanks for all of your help. Now I just need to setup nat on an external router to forward the traffic to the api for non quantum routers | 19:37 |
| jbrisko | shouldn't I just nat it to port 8773? | 19:38 |
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| jbrisko | on my controller | 19:38 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:no, the metadata service only answers on port 80 | 19:38 |
| jbrisko | ie, we have one network that is routed by external cisco routers, should I just nat 169.254.169.254:80 to my controller node :80? | 19:39 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:you shouldn't have to nat anything, there should be a route added to the VM's local routing table or the routing namespace should have the 169 IP | 19:40 |
| jbrisko | bswrchrd: I suppose I could just add it to the quantum network | 19:40 |
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| bswrchrd | jbrisko: <-- confused, what are you trying to do exactly? you shouldn't have to mess with the routing tables, actually anything IP-ish for metadata to work | 19:45 |
| jbrisko | so, I have one project that doesn't have a quantum router | 19:45 |
| jbrisko | don't I need to provide a route to the metadata service for those instances | 19:46 |
| jbrisko | the router for that network is an external cisco router | 19:46 |
| jbrisko | that is mixed with hardware and openstack instances | 19:46 |
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| bswrchrd | jbrisko:ohhhhh | 19:47 |
| jbrisko | sorry. I probably didn't explain that very well | 19:48 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:got it, hmmm, so you are using vlans and not GRE tunnels? | 19:48 |
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| jbrisko | bswrchrd: yes, we use vlans | 19:52 |
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| bswrchrd | jbrisko:yeah sooooo, that's a good question...when you find out the answer could you let me know? :) | 19:53 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:I'm useless with VLANs, I normally only deal with GRE tunnels that have to use the L3 agent | 19:54 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:but | 19:54 |
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| jbrisko | bswrchrd: ha ha, alright. I will! Any idea how the metadata service works? if I forward to the controller with a static route, should it pick that up? or is it doing some sort of proxying that I need to NAT | 19:54 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:to your point, yes, I think you will need to set up routing at yor cisco router to point back to the metadata agent, I'm just not sure whether the external interfaces will give you the data | 19:55 |
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| bswrchrd | jbrisko:possibly, the quantum metadata service acts as a proxy for the request, the HTTP request is re-formatted with the requesting IP address and forwarded to I believe Nova which retrieves the information from memcache | 19:56 |
| bswrchrd | jbrisko:that's why u cant query the meta svc for info on a different VM | 19:57 |
| jbrisko | bswrchrd: hrmm... this could get interesting then... | 19:57 |
| bswrchrd | brisko:yes it could | 19:57 |
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| badams | anyone know what this error means? http://paste.openstack.org/show/47040/ | 20:14 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | badams: check your information in the [keystone_authtoken] section of /etc/quantum/quantum.conf to make sure it matches what's in keystone | 20:15 |
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| jbrisko | so is there any way to connect to the metadata service directly from an instance without using the quantum proxy? | 20:37 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | kinda | 20:38 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | there's a patch that I'm using that proxy's it through the dhcp service | 20:38 |
| jbrisko | I would imagine that is the only way to connect to it if you are using an external non-quantum router? | 20:38 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | yup | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | at least that i've found | 20:39 |
| jbrisko | got any info on it? just the other article that was linked? | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/147786586/dhcp_trademe_always_isolated_metadata.patch | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | add these three lines to your dhcp_agent.ini | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | enable_isolated_metadata = True | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | enable_metadata_network = True | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | isolated_metadata_always=True | 20:39 |
| jbrisko | and can I have both the dhcp-agent and the l3-agent, or is it one or the other? | 20:39 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | you should be able to have both. My goal was to do away with the l3-agent as I didn't want to route traffic through a software based router | 20:40 |
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| jbrisko | understandable. What kind of routers are you using? have you built any automation for it using the api? | 20:40 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | you'll still have to set up the shared secrets in nova.conf (quantum_metadata_proxy_shared_secret) and metadata_agent.ini (metadata_proxy_shared_secret), but what that patch does is advertises a route for 169.254.169.254 to go to the IP of the dhcp_agent, and the dhcp_agent bounces it to the metadata agent with all the needed info | 20:41 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | just standard cisco hardware routers. I want to seperate the control plane and data plane, so that openstack is just doing management and not any processing of active data | 20:42 |
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| jbrisko | I see | 20:43 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | So the dhcp_agent doles out two routes... the standard gateway (which is my hardware gateway IP) and the 169. address... without that patch, if you set an external gateway IP address it won't launch the metadata service (odd, imo, will probably be fixed in havana) | 20:44 |
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| jbrisko | shouldn't I just have to restart quantum on my network node for the changes to take and start getting the new route? | 20:49 |
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| jbrisko | or do I need to restart nova services as well? | 20:50 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | to go back to your original question, the reason you need to go through the l3-agent or dhcp-agent is because quantum itself is used to identify the instance, since the guest os has no clue 1) what instance it is, 2) how it's connected... so what happens is the agent(s) intercept the request, cross reference the IP in the DB and then pass all that info (with a password) to the metadata service | 20:50 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | yeah, should just have to restart the quantum services | 20:50 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | and do a dhcp refresh (or bounce the guest instance) to get the new routes | 20:50 |
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| jbrisko | hrmm, I restarted the quantum services, and tried to fire up a new instance on the network that has no quantum routers, and it didn't get the route published | 20:51 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | you can check if it worked by running and "ip netns" and looking for the "qdhcp-" line that mathces the ID of the network you're using. If you then run a "ip netns exec qdhcp-xxx-xx-xxx netstat -v4 -pant" you'll see all the ports listening. One should be port 80 | 20:51 |
| [RAX]Jeffe | oh, try restarting nova-api just in case | 20:51 |
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| [RAX]Jeffe | gotta bail again. Good luck with that, it sadly took me quite a few days to figure things out, so hopefully that saves you some time. I still need to figure out my spicehtml5proxy issue :-\ | 20:54 |
| jbrisko | [RAX]Jeffe: still not publishing | 20:54 |
| jbrisko | [RAX]Jeffe: I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help | 20:54 |
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| jbrisko | so, I now have the DHCP Agent pushing the route to my instance for metadata, but am getting this error: 20130913 21:15:46,707 util.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254/20090404/metadata/instanceid' failed [0/120s]: url error [[Errno 111] Connection refused] | 21:56 |
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| jbrisko | I'm assuming I have something incorrect with the nova-api? | 21:57 |
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| skywalker7777 | is it possible to try out devstack on a VM? | 22:07 |
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| isterling | yes | 22:08 |
| isterling | keep in mind that if you reboot the VM, your devstack resets to default. | 22:08 |
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| skywalker7777 | does the inception aspect work well? (vm inside a vm) | 22:09 |
| skywalker7777 | or is this only for api testing etc | 22:10 |
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| isterling | not sure what you mean by that. | 22:11 |
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| BMDan | skywalker: There's something called OpenStack On OpenStack (OoO for short). So, yes, you can nest deeply without any issues. | 22:13 |
| BMDan | Hardest part is wrapping your head around networking that many layers deep. ;) | 22:14 |
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| cloudbender | Could someone explain (briefly) what is meant here, in terms of the imaging service ? ... | 22:50 |
| cloudbender | ' ... A multi-format image registry, the image service allows uploads of private and public images in a variety of formats ... ' | 22:50 |
| cloudbender | That is, what is a Raw image ? | 22:51 |
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| galafreysky7777 | cloudbender: Firstly there are multiple supported image formats | 22:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | cloudbender: Raw, qcow, qcow2, vdi, vhd, vmdk etc | 22:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | A raw image file is a file which essentially encompasess the "raw" bits along with the grub/boot loader etc which can then be used to stand up a VM> | 22:54 |
| galafreysky7777 | a qcow,qcow2 file for exaxmple is more optimized file which employs copy on write sematics etc. | 22:55 |
| galafreysky7777 | its not as performant as raw but very useful when it comes to taking snapshots etc. | 22:55 |
| galafreysky7777 | vdi is an image format that virtual box understands and employs | 22:56 |
| galafreysky7777 | vmdk is for esx. | 22:56 |
| galafreysky7777 | vhd is mircosoft / hyper IIRC | 22:56 |
| galafreysky7777 | so all of these types could potentially be uploaded to the image service which is glance in openstack. | 22:56 |
| cloudbender | ... stand up a VM ... excellent. | 22:57 |
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| cloudbender | galafreysky7777 Thank you. | 22:57 |
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| cloudbender | This is going to be fun. | 22:58 |
| galafreysky7777 | cloudbender: welcome! yes it is. | 22:58 |
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