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| illsci | I'm about to setup openstack... I hope... | 00:00 |
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| illsci | Any recomendations on where to start... and I was curious if any new books are out or coming out and if there are working puppet modules for it already? | 00:01 |
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| WormMan | the good news is there are puppet modules... the bad news is my(admittedly complex cloud) uses about 2000 more lines of code to manage them :) | 00:42 |
| WormMan | I think for simpler clouds it's not quite as bad | 00:42 |
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| illsci | interesting | 01:03 |
| illsci | what do most people use for a base os | 01:03 |
| illsci | im going to find out quickly how some of my questions might be retarded... | 01:03 |
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| illsci | I'm curious if it makes any difference or if you can choose a hypervisor or how that all works I guess | 01:03 |
| illsci | im just going through videos and docs... now.... I have a global network with a shit load of servers I want to manage with openstack | 01:04 |
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| illsci | so it's looking like fedora and ubuntu? | 01:05 |
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| stack0verflow | illsci: yup... if you use ubuntu, you should consider using the cloud archive repo | 01:48 |
| stack0verflow | good luck | 01:48 |
| stack0verflow | trying to get quantum working and it's like a dark art | 01:48 |
| lurbs | ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive ) | 01:48 |
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| mattrae | hi folks, when i have multiple compute nodes, instances can not resolve eachother via dns. is there an openstack component that handles this? nova-dns maybe? | 02:25 |
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| thunderbolt | hello | 05:12 |
| thunderbolt | hello ... anyone | 05:13 |
| Uzix | thunderbolt: hello | 05:13 |
| thunderbolt | hi Uzix | 05:13 |
| thunderbolt | i am new openstack and irc .. i have a auery could you help me out <Uzix> | 05:14 |
| Uzix | thunderbolt: ask ur question. if somebody can answer - he does | 05:16 |
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| thunderbolt | i need to know which is the file that nova first executes | 05:18 |
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| thunderbolt | i need to know which is the file that nova first executes | 05:20 |
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| Uzix | nova-compute? | 05:20 |
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| thunderbolt | yes ... i am browsing the source code through eclipse i need to know the start point. | 05:21 |
| thunderbolt | yup nova-compute | 05:22 |
| thunderbolt | <Uzix> | 05:23 |
| Uzix | thunderbolt: are you familiar with openstack architecture? if not, look to http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch_getting-started-with-openstack.html | 05:23 |
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| Uzix | thunderbolt: if you want to program openstack - read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ | 05:25 |
| Uzix | s/read/also read/ | 05:26 |
| thunderbolt | yes i have been through the architecture , i need to know the starting point of the nova-compute | 05:27 |
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| Uzix | thunderbolt: look to service.serve() method | 05:29 |
| thunderbolt | <Uzix> i have installed devstack on a single node machine with no erros , problem i am facing is to understand the source code and write a plugin to nova-compute ... | 05:29 |
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| mutex | I am attempting to test my new swift installation | 05:52 |
| mutex | but when I run 'swift stat' it keeps asking me for a reigon | 05:52 |
| mutex | I'm not even sure I set any thing like region | 05:52 |
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| thunderbolt | thank you <Uzix> :) | 05:56 |
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| `jpg | Hi. :) | 08:27 |
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| `jpg | I have devstack installed, I would like to start coding... Is there a workflow for setting up a feature branch and deploying the new code to devstack? | 09:04 |
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| `jpg | Nvm.. found a slideshare with workflow. :) | 09:06 |
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| srp_ | `jpg: can you pass on the link to that slideshare please | 09:06 |
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| `jpg | http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/developing-withdevstack | 09:16 |
| srp_ | `jpg: thanks :) | 09:16 |
| `jpg | srp_: SRP as in SCSI RDMA Protocol? Or do I just have acroynm eyes. -_- | 09:17 |
| `jpg | The key point for that presentation is that full code is checked out to /opt/stack, and you can easily restart services by connecting to the screen sessoin. | 09:17 |
| srp_ | `jpg: haha | 09:18 |
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| `jpg | If you need screen howto something like this is solid: http://www.phacks.net/how-to-use-gnu-screen/ | 09:18 |
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| koolhead17 | FlorianOtel: around | 09:32 |
| FlorianOtel | ues | 09:34 |
| FlorianOtel | yes | 09:34 |
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| red_trela | on what nodes do I need to define {cpu,ram}_allocation_ratio? Those with nova-compute or that with nova-scheduler? | 09:40 |
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| horsedongs9000 | ls | 09:41 |
| horsedongs9000 | oops | 09:41 |
| horsedongs9000 | Hey all | 09:41 |
| horsedongs9000 | Does anyone know if 3D acceleration is possible with openstack? | 09:42 |
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| NuxRo | horsedongs9000: probably not, for that i would imagine you need spice+qxl which is not supported | 09:43 |
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| horsedongs9000 | NuxRo: not even if I swap out KVM for Xen? | 09:46 |
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| gwlegion | hi everyone ... | 09:48 |
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| gwlegion | i'm searchong for some help ... | 09:48 |
| NuxRo | good luck | 09:50 |
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| gwlegion | i'm searching some help to mount an openstack share ... for more precision, i want to mount my hubic share in my filesystem .. i use ubuntu | 09:51 |
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| gwlegion | i'm searching some help to mount an openstack share ... for more precision, i want to mount my hubic share in my filesystem .. i use ubuntu* | 10:06 |
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| NuxRo | what's an openstack share? | 10:06 |
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| NuxRo | what's hubic? | 10:07 |
| gwlegion | openstack share is relative to openstack swift ... hubic is a french service like dropbox | 10:08 |
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| mattmonkeymagic | anyone about for a filesystem question for compute node on OpenStack?? | 10:18 |
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| antituhan | is it possible to make dnat from one instance who have ip public to another instance ? | 10:22 |
| antituhan | for the example, instance A have publicA | 10:22 |
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| antituhan | and i want to dnat port 221 to instance B | 10:22 |
| antituhan | instance A priv ip is 192.168.32.10 | 10:22 |
| antituhan | instance B priv ip is 192.168.32.11 | 10:23 |
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| antituhan | so, if I telnet to port 221 on publicA it would dnat to 192.168.32.11 port 22 from 192.168.32.10 | 10:25 |
| antituhan | is it possible? | 10:25 |
| antituhan | if is it possible, how to do that? | 10:25 |
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| antituhan | hello dextone | 10:26 |
| antituhan | i need your help | 10:26 |
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| foexle | heyho guys, i've create a new subnet with quantum (folsom) but my gateway port are "DOWN" so not active. Without the gw port the vm can't access the metadata service. So why is my gw port down ? I've attached on the same router the external net as external gw. Maybe will this external gw overwrite the internal gw ? | 10:29 |
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| mattmonkeymagic | having a prob with compute node FS filling up with snapshots, but there doesn't seem to be anything in OpenStack monitoring if a nodes storage is reaching capacity. Is there a config setting I can change to warn on disk full?? | 10:38 |
| mattmonkeymagic | as in the node will still accept requests for new instances to fire up, even tho that node no longer has sufficient capacity to fulfil request | 10:38 |
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| sgran | you need to use a different scheduler filter | 10:39 |
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| mattmonkeymagic | --> saran: thanks will take a look | 10:41 |
| mattmonkeymagic | sgran: ;-) | 10:41 |
| antituhan | mattmonkeymagic, hello | 10:42 |
| mattmonkeymagic | hi antituhan | 10:43 |
| antituhan | mattmonkeymagic, have you tried to use dnat openstack instance ? | 10:43 |
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| antituhan | I have problem to use dnat from controller | 10:43 |
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| antituhan | And want to forward a specific port to another instance | 10:43 |
| mattmonkeymagic | I'm having issues with NAT on my Openstack at the moment. Am trying to use Asterisk, but NATs are not behaving as I expected. Probably best to direct your Q to someone else ;-) | 10:44 |
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| antituhan | mattmonkeymagic, ah ok ... :) But thankyou for your response | 10:44 |
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| BugBuster123 | Hello | 10:59 |
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| BugBuster123 | I have aproblem with Qzantum since I updated the Linux Release from 12.04 to 12.10 | 11:02 |
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| BugBuster123 | Configuration has not changed | 11:02 |
| BugBuster123 | for Networking I use OVS vlan seperation | 11:03 |
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| BugBuster123 | When I provision a machine, the machine is created, on the nova-compute host a switch is created "qbrXXXXX", the vnetX adapter is added | 11:03 |
| BugBuster123 | the "qbrxxxxx" is attached to the br-int integration bridge | 11:04 |
| BugBuster123 | However on the integration bridge the "qvoXXXXXX" adapter is added without vlan TAG | 11:04 |
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| BugBuster123 | and no openflows are created to do vlan Mappings | 11:05 |
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| BugBuster123 | Thus the instance is not pingable because vlan's do not match | 11:05 |
| BugBuster123 | in the log on the nova-compute node I get: | 11:05 |
| BugBuster123 | ERROR [quantum.openstack.common.rpc.common] Timed out waiting for RPC response: timed out | 11:05 |
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| BugBuster123 | The Rabbit Log File does not show any error | 11:06 |
| BugBuster123 | ... I'm confused | 11:06 |
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| BugBuster123 | The Problem looks similar to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1059873 | 11:12 |
| BugBuster123 | Any hints ? | 11:12 |
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| BugBuster123 | The log says: DEBUG [quantum.openstack.common.rpc.amqp] Making asynchronous call on q-plugin ... | 11:12 |
| BugBuster123 | 1 Minute later | 11:12 |
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| BugBuster123 | DEBUG [quantum.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_quantum_agent] Unable to get port details for 0ec82500-09b5-4ac3-98b1-a407c221d08a: Timeout while waiting on RPC response. | 11:12 |
| BugBuster123 | DEBUG [quantum.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_quantum_agent] Loop iteration exceeded interval (2 vs. 60.338351965)! | 11:13 |
| BugBuster123 | INFO [quantum.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_quantum_agent] Agent out of sync with plugin! | 11:13 |
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| dextone | antituhan, add this rule into you nova network -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d YOUR_PUB_IP -p tcp -m tcp --dport 221 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.32.11:22 | 11:25 |
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| BugBuster123 | hmmm .. version mismatch "Cloud Controller: 2012.2.1+stable", Nova-Compute: "2012.2.3-0ubuntu1" | 11:31 |
| BugBuster123 | shouldn's the release be compatible ??? | 11:31 |
| dachary | EmilienM: I would like to read about booting instances only using ram ( no disk attached at all ). Do you have a recommendation ? | 11:31 |
| EmilienM | dachary: AFIK, you need to create a special flavor | 11:32 |
| EmilienM | dachary: with 0 GB of disk for both ephemeral and root | 11:32 |
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| dachary | I did that and it works but I'm not sure about what it entails. I figured there might be a document explaining the theory of operations when you want to operate instances with just RAM ;-) | 11:33 |
| dachary | EmilienM: m1.tiny is such a VM ( 0 disk, 0 ephemeral ) but I've never actually looked at what it does. | 11:34 |
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| dachary | when I look at /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001 | 11:36 |
| dachary | i see | 11:36 |
| dachary | disk: QEMU QCOW Image (v2), has backing file (path /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/1e7e6b30d48a99913ad59ae5ab29cf763), 41126400 bytes | 11:36 |
| dachary | which seems to indicate that there is a disk anyway | 11:37 |
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| foexle | heyho EmilienM :) .... could you give me a quick explaination of the connection between a vm and metadata service with quantum ? .... I've created (i think) all correct, the instances gets an ip, gw of this subnet is up but, the route on the network node still present, but the vm dont reach the metadata service. any trick ? :) | 11:41 |
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| dachary | foexle: EmilienM is out for lunch now ;-) | 11:41 |
| foexle | dachary: :D ... all right | 11:41 |
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| zykes- | yo foexle :) | 11:42 |
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| foexle | hey zykes- my friend :) how are you ? | 11:45 |
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| zykes- | foexle: good, need help with quantum ? | 11:50 |
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| foexle | zykes-: yeah i think i have the most peaces ready. My vms gets IP's, i can ping this iP's but the l3_agent dont route the fixed ip to the metadata-services | 11:53 |
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| foexle | zykes-: i see on the network node the iptable nat's but don't have a route in the ns | 11:54 |
| zykes- | are you using the proxy stuff ? | 11:54 |
| foexle | proxy stuff ? ... i've used this tut: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/stable/GRE/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst | 11:55 |
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| zykes- | ah, I dunno with the metadata stuff and folsom | 11:55 |
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| miguitas | foexle: do you have metadata server separated from quantum node? | 11:55 |
| foexle | yeah | 11:55 |
| zykes- | I "hacked" together support for the newest quantum using nova-api-metadata and the proxy stuff | 11:55 |
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| foexle | on controler node | 11:55 |
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| miguitas | foexle: is a limitation in folsom, you need the l3 agent and metada in the same host, you need a proxy in l3 node o a route in metadata to internal vm network | 11:57 |
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| foexle | miguitas: ahhhh you mean, i can setup a small nginx proxy on the network node (l3_agent) to forward the http requests to the controller node ? | 11:58 |
| foexle | or better install nova-api on the network node ? | 11:58 |
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| foexle | miguitas: but if i try to ping 169.254.169.254 with netns i get network is unreachable ..... so i need a route first in ns or ? | 12:00 |
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| miguitas | foexle: the problem is that the packets don't kno to come back to the private network, a proxy is a solution, firts try in metadata node create a route to the private network | 12:05 |
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| miguitas | if you are you gaoing to put a proxy needs to change nova.conf to point to localhost and proxy port | 12:07 |
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| foexle | miguitas: i understand, but the first problem is: root@network:~# ip netns exec qrouter-0bf2d680-c6da-439c-b699-22c53f7b11a5 ping 169.254.169.254 | 12:09 |
| foexle | connect: Network is unreachable | 12:09 |
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| miguitas | foexle: is a port redirection, check the iptables rules that redirect that ip in a port to your controler metadata and port | 12:10 |
| foexle | miguitas: on the network node => DNAT tcp -- anywhere 169.254.169.254 tcp dpt:http to:xxxxxxxx:8775 ... seems correct | 12:11 |
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| foexle | thinke the route inside the namespace are the main problem or not ? | 12:12 |
| foexle | root@network:~# ip netns exec qrouter-0bf2d680-c6da-439c-b699-22c53f7b11a5 route -n | 12:12 |
| foexle | Kernel IP routing table | 12:12 |
| foexle | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface | 12:12 |
| foexle | 10.100.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 qr-9cd6b9e2-c8 | 12:12 |
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| BugBuster123 | Does IP Allocationvia Horizon work for anyone ? | 12:13 |
| foexle | BugBuster123: floating ip allocation in combination qith quantum doesn't work in folsom | 12:13 |
| BugBuster123 | I see | 12:13 |
| BugBuster123 | but only for horizon ? | 12:14 |
| BugBuster123 | when I use "quantum floatingip-associate ..." it works | 12:14 |
| foexle | you can allocate an external ip with quantum cli .... yeah exactly | 12:14 |
| BugBuster123 | OK | 12:14 |
| miguitas | foexle: the rule is a port redirection, 169.254.169.254 is a special ip that you ca not ping, only redirect tcp connection to another ip (that you previously configured in nova.conf) | 12:14 |
| BugBuster123 | Thanks | 12:14 |
| BugBuster123 | Can I disable the UI for IP Allocation in Horizon then ?? | 12:15 |
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| foexle | miguitas: oh -.- only for port 8775 .... yeah i'm an idiot -.- ....but the vm shouln't get network not reachable .... if the route are broken it should get a timeout or somethink like that or not ? so i try now first a proxy on the network node and try again | 12:16 |
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| foexle | not 8775 -.- 80 to 8775 | 12:17 |
| miguitas | yes, first try to put the route rule un metadata server to the vm's private network | 12:18 |
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| miguitas | then if works try the proxy solution | 12:18 |
| foexle | miguitas: i mean that: root@network:~# ip netns exec qrouter-0bf2d680-c6da-439c-b699-22c53f7b11a5 curl http://169.254.169.254/ | 12:18 |
| foexle | curl: (7) Failed to connect to 169.254.169.254: Network is unreachable | 12:18 |
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| foexle | i try now first the route | 12:19 |
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| phschwartz | If I want to use cinder for volume storage, do I need to create lvm2 space on each node, or only the one that I want the volumes to be hosted on? | 12:20 |
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| foexle | miguitas: thx for your help ! | 12:25 |
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| miguitas | foexle: you are welcome | 12:26 |
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| phschwartz | If I have 4 servers out of 20 with a volume group for cinder on them, can cinder provision volumes for VM's on any of the nodes as long as cinder is installed on them? | 12:33 |
| phschwartz | Or do I need a volume group on every node? | 12:33 |
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| antituhan | dextone, thanks it's work | 12:58 |
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| jcarpentier1 | Hello, I have some question about horizon customization (I have an issue with url of static object like CSS and Image in my gateway) | 12:59 |
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| jpich | Hey jcarpentier1. Did you have a look at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/customizing.html ? | 13:01 |
| jcarpentier1 | yes | 13:01 |
| jcarpentier1 | no answer for my probleme here unfortunately | 13:02 |
| jpich | jcarpentier1: There was an interesting post on this recently as well -> http://www.matthias-runge.de/2013/02/15/how-to-create-a-custom-theme-for-horizon/ maybe it will contain something useful to you. I'm not familiar with customisation but if you describe your problem more specifically, someone may be able to help | 13:03 |
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| jcarpentier1 | my problem is not about how to customize but... how to use dashboard through apache gateway | 13:04 |
| jcarpentier1 | (proxypass & proxypassreverse) | 13:04 |
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| jcarpentier1 | it work for html page but not for static object like .js script image and css | 13:04 |
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| s2r2 | How could I approach debugging network issues in a multi-node FlatDHCPManager setup? | 13:08 |
| s2r2 | from what I can tell, everything looks sane, but is there some "common mistakes" collection? or caveats? | 13:08 |
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| Param | How to create instances in openstack dashboard ? Do i need to use any VMs ? I am having single laptop as resource | 14:04 |
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| vkmc | Param, Hi! What do you mean? | 14:05 |
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| Param | Hello, I am installed openstack using devstack. Now basically i am able to open dashboard. Now what next do i need to do ? | 14:06 |
| annegentle | Param: here's how to launch using dashboard once you have OpenStack installed: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/admin/content/about-the-dashboard.html#Launching_Instances_using_Dashboard | 14:06 |
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| annegentle | Param: use a VM on your laptop, run Ubuntu, then do the 3 steps for DevStack: http://devstack.org | 14:07 |
| annegentle | Param: that'll install a single-machine OpenStack, then you can follow the instructions to launch VMs from the dashboard | 14:07 |
| Param | i havent used VM yet ...... I HAVE DONE those three steps on my ubuntu itself | 14:07 |
| annegentle | Param: hee, should've read a few lines before typing more lines :) | 14:07 |
| annegentle | Param: right, use that link I pasted first | 14:08 |
| Param | ok | 14:08 |
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| Param | Hello annegentle... i was just going through your link. But the dashboard pics used in that link is somewhat different that i am seeing on my laptop | 14:31 |
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| Param | there is no security groups kind of thing | 14:31 |
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| Param | How to launch VMs ? | 14:44 |
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| phschwartz | cinder-api and cinder-scheduler are only needed on the controller correct? The compute nodes only need cinder-volume? | 14:52 |
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| swinchen | Is there a list of what the various nova-* services do? I don't know if I need consoleauth, novncproxy, etc. | 15:03 |
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| geordish | swinchen: they should be fairly self explanitary? | 15:03 |
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| geordish | consoleauth and novncproxy are to do with the console viewer in horizon | 15:04 |
| swinchen | geordish: well if I don't plan on using vnc then I shouldn't need them correct? | 15:04 |
| geordish | I guess that is quite likely | 15:04 |
| swinchen | I just want to make sure they are not required for something else. | 15:04 |
| geordish | I wouldn't have thought so | 15:05 |
| swinchen | ok, thanks | 15:05 |
| geordish | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/getting-started-with-vnc-proxy.html explains how those bits work | 15:05 |
| geordish | bear in mind that its not VNCing to guests, is connecting to the console ports of guests | 15:05 |
| geordish | ie if you lose network connectivity to a guest you can get onto it that way | 15:06 |
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| swinchen | geordish: maybe I should bite the bullet and try to enable it. I am trying to make this thing highly available and would like to remove as many compications as possible. Thanks for the link. | 15:08 |
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| sgran | swinchen: it's pretty trivial, will work through a TCP load balancer, and will save you pain later | 15:09 |
| sgran | it's well worth the 20 minutes it takes to write the puppet module :) | 15:09 |
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| BLZbubba | i see lots of pages on how to create a keystone endpoint, but how do I just change the hostname for one of them? | 15:09 |
| Param | Hello..... How to use openstack dashboard...... ? What to do next after installation from devstack ? | 15:09 |
| swinchen | sgran: Oooo... I am doing this the old fashioned way unfortunately. | 15:10 |
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| sgran | stop now :) | 15:10 |
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| sgran | seriously, this is mostly about doing things at scale. Doing it manually is just getting in your own way | 15:10 |
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| swinchen | well how long would you say it takes to learn to use puppet effectively. | 15:11 |
| swinchen | err, ? not . | 15:11 |
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| sgran | yeah, fair enough | 15:13 |
| sgran | it's not trivial | 15:13 |
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| sgran | but the amount of time saved, especially when you're building farms of identical machines like this, is massive | 15:14 |
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| sgran | not a very helpful obversation when you have 38 minutes to have it all deployed and you don't know either the tech or the config management, however | 15:14 |
| gmi | swinchen: my advice, first build a small cluster manually then use chef or puppet to automate the process | 15:14 |
| swinchen | I was actually thinking of picking up chef or puppet though. Maybe I should bite the bullet | 15:14 |
| illsci | I would | 15:15 |
| illsci | <3 puppet | 15:15 |
| sgran | if, like most installs, you are going to have basically two flavors: 'controller' and 'compute', it is so very worth it | 15:15 |
| illsci | I wanted to find out about the different networking options and how the sdn stuff works with regular network gears | 15:15 |
| sgran | once you know the puppet idioms, it makes adding a new node basically free | 15:15 |
| illsci | is that all available on the openstack.org documentation link? | 15:16 |
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| illsci | what's the best thing to read to get a good understanding of how the networking stuff works | 15:16 |
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| geordish | swinchen: depends how much time you have avaliable, do it if you have time | 15:17 |
| sgran | illsci: quantum is where all the new networking stuff is happening, and frankly, the best place to look is the codebase | 15:17 |
| sgran | there is a very good admin guide, but it is rapidly out of date | 15:17 |
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| annegentle | illsci: the openstack docs don't cover puppet, but the quantum guys maintain a networking admin guide at http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-network/admin/content/ | 15:18 |
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| illsci | yeah... I can do the puppet stuff myself I just want to know how to configure the network for openstack | 15:20 |
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| AmandaC | would it be possible to import an existing volume into openstack, say, if it lived on a different Volume Group? | 15:24 |
| AmandaC | or would it have to be duplicated? | 15:24 |
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| swinchen | Yeah, I am going to have two controller nodes with public interfaces backed by two compute nodes. So when it comes to chef vs puppet how do you make that choice? I am mostly a C/C++ programmer so I have limited ruby experience. | 15:26 |
| BLZbubba | it is kind of an arbitrary choice | 15:26 |
| kutija | hi | 15:27 |
| BLZbubba | maybe find out which one more of your friends use so you can ask for help | 15:27 |
| kutija | I just installed horizon and can't access it | 15:27 |
| kutija | error log says | 15:27 |
| kutija | [Fri Feb 22 16:27:10 2013] [error] [client 95.180.104.208] ImportError: Could not import settings 'openstack_dashboard.settings' (Is it on sys.path?): No module named quantumclient.common | 15:27 |
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| kutija | but | 15:27 |
| kutija | root@MintController /var/log/apache2 # service quantum-server status | 15:27 |
| kutija | quantum-server start/running, process 2620 | 15:27 |
| kutija | what could be a problem? | 15:28 |
| swinchen | BLZbubba: I am alone in this :) I guess I get to pick. | 15:28 |
| geordish | swinchen: there are existing modules for both that would be a good starting point | 15:28 |
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| geordish | https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-openstack for example | 15:29 |
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| keekz | kutija: it sounds like it may be looking for openstack_dashboard.settings in the wrong directory | 15:29 |
| kutija | keekz: interesting, I have no such file anywhere on my disk | 15:30 |
| keekz | it would be settings.py | 15:30 |
| keekz | maybe you also need python-glanceclient ? | 15:30 |
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| kutija | python-glanceclient is already the newest version. | 15:31 |
| keekz | err i mean quantumclient | 15:31 |
| keekz | sorry | 15:31 |
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| kutija | would you know a name of the package? | 15:32 |
| kutija | found it | 15:33 |
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| kutija | thats it | 15:33 |
| kutija | solves the problem :) | 15:33 |
| kutija | tnx keekz | 15:33 |
| keekz | cool, all you did was install python-quantumclient ? | 15:33 |
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| swinchen | it looks like this might be the chef equiv: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-chef/tree/master/cookbooks | 15:35 |
| phschwartz | cinder-api and cinder-scheduler are only needed on the controller correct? The compute nodes only need cinder-volume? | 15:35 |
| swinchen | eh.. it looks outdated though | 15:35 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: why would the compute nodes need to run cinder-volume? | 15:36 |
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| sgran | to actually do the iscsi, right? | 15:37 |
| phschwartz | The install docs are not the best for cinder. The cinder install guide only talks about the controller. Not what is needed on the nodes to be able to do the iscsi mounts. | 15:38 |
| kutija | keekz: yes and reset the memcahce and apache | 15:38 |
| geordish | phschwartz: nothing but the nova configuration | 15:38 |
| phschwartz | Also, I want to allocate part of my storage on each node as a target for cinder-volumes | 15:39 |
| gmi | phschwartz: if you want to actually provide volumes from the compute nodes, then yes, you need to run nova-volume on these servers | 15:39 |
| gmi | phschwartz: but you have to understand the risks involved | 15:40 |
| phschwartz | I need nova-volume even if I want to use cinder? | 15:40 |
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| gmi | phschwartz:no, volumes means iscsi block devices that will be attached to your instances as permanent storage and will be provided by the cinder-volume service (formerly nova-volume) | 15:41 |
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| phschwartz | gmi: so if I under stand you correctly. I would setup cinder on my controller and put nova-volume with its deps on all the compute nodes. | 15:42 |
| phschwartz | Is there a way to let cinder know that there is a cinder-volumes lvm on each compute node that it can use for provisioning persitant volumes? | 15:42 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: you would put cinder-volume on each compute node and cinder-api and cinder-scheduler on the controller | 15:43 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: but again, you have to understand how this works before implementing it this way | 15:44 |
| keekz | kutija: awesome | 15:45 |
| kutija | keekz: yes, now I just have to deal with volume and quota errors :) | 15:45 |
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| phschwartz | gmi: ok, that is what I thought. With it that way, does it see the vgroup on the compute nodes or did I just waste raid space partitioning off 1TB for it on each node | 15:46 |
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| swinchen | huh... puppet looks like it has a much better community built around it. | 15:47 |
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| zykes- | itarchitectkev: ! | 15:49 |
| zykes- | ello istah | 15:49 |
| gmi | phschwartz: if you have compute node1 that has four instances running, and you attach them some volumes (that are iscsi block devices) served from the cinder-volume running on nova-compute2, and your nova-compute2 server crashes, your perfectly fine four instances running on nova-compute1 will loose access to their attached permanent storage. Those volume might not be so permanent because they're sitting on a raidX from a server | 15:49 |
| gmi | that just died because of a faulty motherboard/psu/controller etc | 15:49 |
| zykes- | mistah :P | 15:49 |
| itarchitectkev | zykes-, how are you? | 15:49 |
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| zykes- | good itarchitectkev :p | 15:49 |
| gmi | phschwartz: the cinder-volume service will make use of the space in any vgs called "cinder-volumes" | 15:50 |
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| zykes- | itarchitectkev: how goes your quantumic nightmares ? | 15:51 |
| itarchitectkev | awesome zykes-. I saw your talk at the summit. voted! :) | 15:51 |
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| itarchitectkev | zykes-, I've not had a need for quantum so not looked | 15:51 |
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| zykes- | oh :P | 15:51 |
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| phschwartz | gmi: Ok, I think I am now lost. Looking at the layout of how cinder/volumes work. You create a volume and then attach it to an instance. Does it create the volume on the first node that has space in cinder-volumes? | 15:52 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: I believe the default scheduler is SimpleScheduler and this is the decription: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/api/cinder.scheduler.simple.html | 15:59 |
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| phschwartz | gmi: ty very much. That explains the last of what I needed to know. | 16:03 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: welcome | 16:05 |
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| BLZbubba | !#%&!#%& | 16:11 |
| openstack | BLZbubba: Error: "#%&!#%&" is not a valid command. | 16:11 |
| BLZbubba | how in god's name do i change the 8773/8774 ports? | 16:12 |
| BLZbubba | apart from editing flags.py | 16:12 |
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| BLZbubba | nova-api seems to ignore ec2_port in nova.conf, and it is not a valid command line option | 16:12 |
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| sgran | don't you want ec2_listen_port ? (from service.py) | 16:20 |
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| kutija | I have a question about networking requirements | 16:21 |
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| kutija | http://docs.stackops.org/display/documentation/Global+Network+Requirements | 16:21 |
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| kutija | I want to deploy standard multimode | 16:21 |
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| kutija | can Service network and Storage network be the same? | 16:21 |
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| sgran | they can be, but it's a single vlan and it's useful to isolate that traffic | 16:23 |
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| kutija | sgran: how much is important for them to be separated in terms of security and performance/ | 16:25 |
| BLZbubba | sgran: the question is, where do you specify this? | 16:26 |
| sgran | BLZbubba: in nova.conf | 16:26 |
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| BLZbubba | it looks like it used to be a command line option, but that option is no longer supported | 16:26 |
| sgran | well, it's a standard cfg option | 16:26 |
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| sgran | so it should be doable as a command line option | 16:26 |
| BLZbubba | and it is ignoring the config file options, and it just bombs out if i use the --config-file option | 16:26 |
| sgran | what version are you running? | 16:26 |
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| BLZbubba | nova-api: error: no such option: --ec2_service_port | 16:27 |
| BLZbubba | essex | 16:27 |
| BLZbubba | same thing for ec2_port | 16:27 |
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| sgran | any reason why you're starting to experiment with something that's nearly a year old? | 16:27 |
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| BLZbubba | i was trying to follow this: http://www.cybera.ca/tech-radar/putting-openstack-production-part-3-load-balancing-and-https | 16:27 |
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| BLZbubba | it is not an experiment, people are using the system a lot and nova-api only uses 1 core | 16:28 |
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| BLZbubba | i'm going to skip folsom and upgrade to grizzly when it's out | 16:29 |
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| BLZbubba | but for now i need to get a way to run multiple nova-api instances | 16:29 |
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| BLZbubba | if this doesn't work i guess i'll have to spin up a dedicated vm for each nova-api instance and load balance it that way | 16:30 |
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| BLZbubba | or else overclock my sandy bridge cpu :P | 16:31 |
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| BLZbubba | ec2_listen_port seems to work better, contrary to what all the documentation has to say | 16:35 |
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| sgran | er, why not just increase ec2_workers ? | 16:36 |
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| sgran | or metadata_workers or osapi_compute_workers, depending on where your bottleneck is | 16:37 |
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| BLZbubba | sgran: well i think my first mistake is reading the official documentation: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/compute-options-reference.html | 16:37 |
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| BLZbubba | is there an osapi_workers option? | 16:37 |
| sgran | 16:37:20 < sgran> or metadata_workers or osapi_compute_workers, depending on where your bottleneck is | 16:38 |
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| BLZbubba | looks like those aren't supported in essex | 16:38 |
| sgran | http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/admin/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html | 16:38 |
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| BLZbubba | sgran: that is folsom | 16:38 |
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| sgran | yes, yes it is | 16:39 |
| BLZbubba | but thanks you helped me find the right essex options | 16:39 |
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| gmi | BLZbubba: can you try to add "ec2_listen_port=2000" in your nova.conf and then restart the nova-api service as sgran said? it works fine in my Essex env | 16:43 |
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| AmandaC | is there a conversion process from nova-volume to cinder? | 16:48 |
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| kutija | does anyone knows why i'm getting these errors | 17:00 |
| kutija | 3585 DEBUG cinder.utils [-] backend <module 'cinder.db.sqlalchemy.migration' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cinder/db/sqlalchemy/migration.pyc'> __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cinder/utils.py:477 | 17:00 |
| kutija | cinder/nova get me these | 17:01 |
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| sgran | that's not an error message | 17:07 |
| sgran | it's a debug message that can be safely ignored | 17:08 |
| BLZbubba | gmi: yeah that worked fine! | 17:08 |
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| BLZbubba | thanks for the help | 17:09 |
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| radix | does anyone know the state of v3 keystone in grizzly? did it get finished before the freeze? | 17:28 |
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| mriedem | i'm seeing the quantum rpm spec we have (based on fedora's) sets the auth_strategy to noauth instead of the default keystone, anyone aware of a reason why that would be the case for quantum? | 17:31 |
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| gmi | radix: take a look at the blueprints covered by grizzly-3 and see if you find what you need: https://launchpad.net/keystone/grizzly/grizzly-3 | 17:36 |
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| radix | cool, thanks | 17:37 |
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| mkollaro | is there a way in swift to force a rebalance and go around the min_part_hours? | 17:38 |
| verdurin | Having an odd metadata problem | 17:39 |
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| verdurin | Instances are receiving an IP | 17:39 |
| verdurin | and one 1 of 4 compute nodes I added today, metadata works | 17:40 |
| verdurin | on the remaining 3 it doesn't | 17:40 |
| verdurin | routes are the same | 17:40 |
| verdurin | iptables looks okay | 17:40 |
| verdurin | This Folsom with nova-network | 17:40 |
| verdurin | is | 17:40 |
| AmandaC | no, this is patric | 17:40 |
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| gmi | verdurin:anything special about the compute nodes that works fine? | 17:44 |
| gmi | verdurin: "compute node" | 17:45 |
| verdurin | gmi: not that I've found so far | 17:45 |
| verdurin | gmi: the hardware is identical | 17:45 |
| gmi | verdurin: I'm more curious about the nova.conf file | 17:46 |
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| BugBuster123 | Is it right that the EC2 API of Openstack only Supports the REST Api, not the SOAP ? | 17:51 |
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| BugBuster123 | Also, does "euca-create-volume -s 10 -z nova" create a cinder volume or nova-volume volume ? | 17:51 |
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| verdurin | gmi: the only difference is the vncserver address | 17:52 |
| BugBuster123 | When I run this, a volume is created with description = "-" and name = "-", however it is stuck at "Creating" | 17:52 |
| BugBuster123 | While when running the create volume through horizon, it is actually created | 17:52 |
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| param | when i try to launch image in dashboard... it asks for image location.. sometimes like http://example.com/image.iso which links its asking for ? | 17:58 |
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| verdurin | gmi: thanks anyway - I'll keep on looking | 18:01 |
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| BLZbubba | ok cool my new api machine is working; how painful will it be to switch the endpoint in keystone? | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | BLZbubba: endpoint-list, endpoint-delete the old one, endpoint-create a new one | 18:02 |
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| BLZbubba | ok cool ty | 18:03 |
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| BLZbubba | that must be why my searches for "keystone endpoint change" didn't help much :) | 18:04 |
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| dolphm | BLZbubba: yeah the api doesn't support updates for some reason -- that's changing in the new api | 18:05 |
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| BLZbubba | weird, keystone catalog works | 18:07 |
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| BLZbubba | and endpoint-list is in the --help | 18:07 |
| BLZbubba | but gives this error: No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client" | 18:07 |
| dolphm | BLZbubba: that's just a warning you can ignore -- there's an open bug for it and i'm working on a fix :) | 18:07 |
| dolphm | BLZbubba: bug 936404 | 18:08 |
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| BLZbubba | heh ok thanks | 18:08 |
| dolphm | BLZbubba: guess there's no bot in this channel https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/936404 | 18:08 |
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| r3d64r | on the swift saio setup - am I able to take another node and post data to this development setup? | 18:20 |
| BLZbubba | ok this may be a n00b question, but why does keystone catalog show the expected services, but keystone service-list doesn't show anything? | 18:20 |
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| dperaza | brusell: you around? | 18:49 |
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| dperaza | commented on the encoding patch, let me know | 18:50 |
| dperaza | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22723/1/nova/network/rpcapi.py | 18:50 |
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| et1337 | quick question: how does the permanent disk space work in nova? | 19:39 |
| et1337 | I mean, I have an Ubuntu VM that seems to have automatically mounted /dev/sdb to /mnt | 19:39 |
| et1337 | but it doesn't show up in the volume list | 19:39 |
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| phschwartz | upon updating my controller and installing cinder, I am getting the following error in apache's error.log http://paste2.org/p/2945742 anyone have an idea? | 19:40 |
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| dontalton | phschwartz, did you create a cinder user in keystone? | 19:41 |
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| phschwartz | dontalton: No, I did not. Let me do that. What else do I need to add to keystone for it? The doc on the site is missing a lot | 19:42 |
| dontalton | phschwartz, this might help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MigrateToCinder | 19:42 |
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| phschwartz | I added the user. I don't see any errors in my error.log, but I get an internal server error when trying to hit horizon | 19:48 |
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| stack0verflow | i'm using quantum, but after using ovs-vsctl (on the network node) to create the bridges and ports, I cannot ping the quantum server (on nova controller, separate server). Does anyone have any tips? | 20:09 |
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| phschwartz | what port does nova-api run on and how can I find out what is using it? | 20:11 |
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| stack0verflow | i believe the nova compute api is 8774 | 20:18 |
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| phschwartz | Is there a list of what endpoints need to be in keystone for cinder? (also looks like nova-api and cinder-api both run by default on 8776) | 20:21 |
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| gmi | phschwartz: make sure you don't have the volume api enabled in nova.conf | 20:23 |
| gmi | stack0verflow: the quantum-server running on the controller should be reachable using the mgnt IP | 20:24 |
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| gmi | stack0verflow: do you have an interface on the mgnt network on you network node? | 20:25 |
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| stack0verflow | yes... i do have separate ports... actually, i have three ports for nova network... | 20:25 |
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| gmi | stack0verflow: that's good; your management port shouldn't be part of any openvswitch bridge and it should have layer 2 connectivity to the controller node so the network node can reach rabbitmq running there | 20:27 |
| stack0verflow | but, for the network node, i have both the config and external network are on the same physical network and same subnet | 20:27 |
| stack0verflow | i thought i can use those | 20:27 |
| stack0verflow | the primary gateway defined on the config port | 20:27 |
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| tms | Hey folks, is there some restriction (using nova-network and vlanmanager) that prevents instances from networking with their compute node or other instances on that same compute node via public IP? | 20:29 |
| tms | I'm looking at virtualizing my monitoring infrastructure and that seems to be the case. | 20:29 |
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| tms | anyone have any experience with instances networking to their compute node? | 20:36 |
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| gmi | tms: take a look at this fixed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/933640 | 20:42 |
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| tms | gmi: Ah, that sounds pretty spot on. | 20:44 |
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| gmi | tms:all I can say is that from an instance with a floating IP assigned, I can ping the public IP of the compute host is running on, using multi-host and Essex | 20:47 |
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| tms | gmi: that's interesting. I'm running multihost and Folsom | 20:50 |
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| tms | gmi: but it seems I can't communicate at all between public and private if we're in the same compute node. Even if I try to go private to public between instances, no go. | 20:51 |
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| tms | gmi: oh no, I lied. Pinging the public IP of instances on the same vmhost works | 20:52 |
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| b_52globe | hi guys | 22:26 |
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| b_52globe | any idea with this error http://pastie.org/6319132 | 22:28 |
| b_52globe | ? | 22:28 |
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| sgran | you probably don't have a user name 'swift' on the system | 22:43 |
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