Tuesday, 2013-01-08

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Egyptian[Laptop]has anyone been able to set up an openstack node in the last 4 days with the latest packages from centos/epel ?02:08
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jeffrey4lYesterday, I set up a compute node using latest package.02:11
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Egyptian[Laptop]Jeffrey4l: i have a node i am learning how to install openstack on and suddenly 4 days ago .. horizon/dashboard stops working.. if it works .. images dont launch02:17
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Egyptian[Laptop]Jeffrey4l are u using scripts?02:19
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jeffrey4lEgyptian[Laptop], What the exception raise in the log file?02:20
jeffrey4lEgyptian[Laptop], I am using puppet to install the openstack.02:20
Egyptian[Laptop]all kinds of stuff ..02:21
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Egyptian[Laptop]wssagi failing .. nova-api is status 500 and those are the only ones i can remember02:21
Egyptian[Laptop]and no .. i am not writing them down :(02:21
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Egyptian[Laptop]hmm.. avahi daemon wasnt on02:22
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jeffrey4l.... try start it.02:22
Egyptian[Laptop]give me a few minutes ;002:22
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jeffrey4lOK02:23
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Jeffrey4l1/help02:27
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alrs"02:42
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Egyptian[Laptop]my dashboard vnc log says this Unable to connect          Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:6080.03:13
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mikedawsonEgyptian[Laptop]: you likely need to change vncserver_proxyclient_address in /etc/nova/nova.conf to be the ip of your nova-novncproxy service03:28
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Egyptian[Laptop]mikedawson: i did that and restarted nova* services and now i get 500 error in the dashboard and nova api refuses to start03:35
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mikedawsonEgyptian[Laptop]: my novnc settings in /etc/nova/nova.conf http://pastebin.com/GsdKQpi903:42
Egyptian[Laptop]mikedawson: i have similar03:46
Egyptian[Laptop]http://fpaste.org/Cwg8/03:46
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mikedawsonEgyptian[Laptop]: is nova-novncproxy bound to 6080? Test with lsof -l | grep *:608003:52
Egyptian[Laptop]mikedawson: sigh .. i wish .. i have a moving target i get the feeling i fix something then somethign else breaks so while i have fixed problem 1 .. problem 3 has occurred03:53
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Egyptian[Laptop]problem 1 was a missing dash board ..apparently my iptables was blocking it03:57
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erkulesis there a list of companies using openstack >100 nodes07:02
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SaadZaherany body here ?08:35
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chmouelerkules: at least rackspace does09:26
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joni|Ubuntuany1 know how do i run shellscript immediately after the vm is launched?11:49
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fifieldtIs your guest VM running Ubuntu ? You can try cloud-init https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit11:50
joni|Ubuntuyeah it's running ubuntu11:51
joni|Ubuntuguest vm11:51
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joni|Ubuntuuser data scripts! got it! thanks fifieldt11:53
fifieldtenjoy :)11:53
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ksedgeHey everyone, newb Q: What is an endpoint?14:10
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sgranit's the URI for an API service14:11
ksedgesgran: Thanks!14:11
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ksedgeAnother question: Does anyone know where I can find a working tutorial for a proof-of-concept test deployment?14:15
EmilienM__ksedge: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/14:17
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ksedgeEmilienM__: I've been having trouble with that particular guide.  Any others you can suggest?14:17
EmilienM__it's a work in progress, but a good start.14:17
EmilienM__ksedge: please report any bug :)14:17
ksedgeEmilienM__: Sure thing!14:17
EmilienM__ksedge: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+filebug14:18
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EmilienM__I don't suggest anything else since that's official doc.14:18
EmilienM__I'll fix it if you can report your issue :)14:18
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ksedgeEmilienM__: Thanks! If you want to follow my progress, I'm blogging about it:  http://senecacd.wordpress.com/14:20
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EmilienM__ksedge: good job14:21
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EmilienM__ksedge: please don't hesitate to report any bug in the doc ;)14:21
ksedgeEmilienM__: I'm pretty new to this, so it's a steep learning curve14:21
EmilienM__ok14:21
ksedgeEmilienM__: Once I feel confident that it's not just me blundering about I will :D14:22
ksedgeEmilienM__: Is there any official support for HA at this time? I found a few mentions of Heartbeat and Pacemaker...14:24
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EmilienM__ksedge: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ha/content/ch-intro.html14:25
ksedgeEmilienM__: Perfect! ty so much!14:25
EmilienM__ksedge: we are improving it, it's still under review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18426/14:25
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ksedgeEmilienM__: I'm part of an open source research project looking into automating openstack deployment and incorporating HA features.14:27
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ksedgeEmilienM__: it's early days yet but we'd like to start contributing sometime soon14:28
EmilienM__we are doing it with puppetlabs.14:28
EmilienM__nice14:28
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EmilienM__ksedge: don't hesitate to communicate about your project on the ML14:28
ksedgeEmilienM__: ML?14:29
EmilienM__mailing list14:29
ksedgeEmilienM__: Ok will do :D14:29
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EmilienM__ksedge: great :) good luck14:31
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ksedgeEmilienM__: thanks.  keep up the hard work!14:31
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ksedgeEmilienM__: Do you have time for a more technical question?14:33
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EmilienM__ksedge: tell me14:49
ksedgeEmilienM__: My problem disappeared O.o14:50
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ksedgeEmilienM__: Something went wrong when I was setting up the network node in that tutorial - I lost my internet connection through the public network.  I deleted "br-ex", then recreated it and it worked.14:50
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ksedgeEmilienM__: Thanks anyway :D14:51
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ksedgeEmilienM__: Hmm. After reboot, the problem returns.14:52
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sgranI suspect that you've attached your uplink nic to br-ex14:52
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ksedgesgran: can you explain a little more?14:53
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sgranbr-ex is a software bridge14:55
sgranit will have its own network configuration14:55
sgranif you attach your internet connection to it, your internet connection will be lost14:55
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ksedgesgran: This is what the tutorial I am following has suggested I do15:05
ksedgeand I managed to get it working until I rebooted the machine15:05
sstentare there any notification tools out there other than stacktach?  Stacktach crashes as soon as  it sees a msg on my systems15:06
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gmisstent: did you try chatting with Sandy Walsh about your issues with stacktach? I'm sure he would be glad to help you15:10
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sstentgmi: I've logged a bug report on their github page. Is there a better place to contact them?15:16
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gmisstent: I would check if he's in the openstack-dev channel and talk to him directly, or post a question on his site: http://www.sandywalsh.com/15:19
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sstentgmi: Cheers15:21
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swaT30hey all, having issues with nova-networking. have an all in one install of Openstack running on a physical machine. inbound traffic to VMs is working (can SSH etc.), however the VMs cannot reach outside of the VM network (192.168.100.0)15:23
swaT30any ideas?15:23
ksedgeswaT30: Are you following a tutorial?15:24
swaT30RHEL 615:24
swaT30from the Openstack docs15:24
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swaT30forwarding is enabled15:25
swaT30FYI using CentOS 6.315:25
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gmiswaT30: what openstack version?15:25
swaT30folsom15:26
swaT30from EPEL15:26
swaT30using one NIC in promisc w/ a bridge. FlatDHCP networking15:27
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gmiswaT30: I cannot help you too much with Folsom, but I would check the obvious: iptables on the host, network connectivity from inside the VM, arp entries15:35
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swaT30gmi: seems like more of a general networking thing than anything15:42
swaT30VM can ping its host, but nothing futher15:42
swaT30further*15:42
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swaT30can arping the host's external network15:43
gmiswaT30: do you see a SNAT rule on the host?15:43
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swaT30gmi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/29005/15:44
swaT30VM floating IP is 10.150.0.5015:44
swaT30internal is 192.168.100.215:45
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gmiswaT30: I see that the chain nova-network-float-snat has the right rule but it was not traversed by any packets yet15:48
gmiswaT30: can you paste your filtering stuff too?15:49
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swaT30gmi: here you go http://paste.openstack.org/show/29007/15:50
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sstentswaT30: make sure your hosts external network is the default route15:52
swaT300.0.0.0         10.150.0.1      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 br10015:53
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sstentswaT30: is that your default route?15:54
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swaT30yup, on the host15:54
swaT3010.150.0.0 is our "external" network15:54
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sstentswaT30: can vm ping the ip address of br100?15:55
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gmiswaT30: is your instance named "nova-compute-inst-8" ?15:56
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swaT30sstent: yes, all of them15:57
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swaT30gmi: no, but it's possible that it's the eighth instance I've created15:57
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swaT30and judging by the iptables chain, it looks like it15:58
sstentswaT30: and br100 ip is the dafult route for the vm?15:58
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swaT30sstent: sure is15:58
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swaT30and this is what I get when I try and ping out:15:59
swaT30PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.15:59
swaT30From 192.168.100.3: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 10.150.0.1)15:59
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swaT30I have to run guys, appreciate the help. I'll keep tinkering with it16:00
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swaT30if you can think of anything, fire me a message :)16:00
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gmiswaT30: check if 10.150.0.50 is binded on the host16:01
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gmiswaT30:capture the traffic to see maybe the return traffic doesn't make it back16:01
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rkukuradhellmann: ping16:14
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dhellmannrkukura: pong16:14
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rkukuradhellmann: I'm working on a modular L2 plugin for quantum, and am considering using stevedore. Do you have a moment for a couple of questions?16:15
dhellmannsure16:16
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One-Man-Bucketi noticed our mysql instance was peaking in cpu16:48
One-Man-Bucketfor openstack essex16:49
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One-Man-Bucketadding an index on instances.deleted fixed the problem16:49
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ksedgeHey, newb question: what is a Tenant exactly?17:33
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anteayahi ksedge, my understanding of a tenent is the account that can access the server but is not the admin or one who set it up17:34
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heckjksedge: it's relatively poorly named - in the dashboard, it's called "project" - it's a basic unit of ownership for resources in an openstack cloud17:34
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heckjksedge: a user can be associated with one or more tenants - the tenant is what "owns" things - VM, Volumes, containers in swift, etc.17:35
ksedgeheckj: thanks!  so a user (glance) would be assosciated with a tenant (service) that gives it access to hardware resources?17:37
ksedgeheckj: -.-17:37
ksedgeheckj: is it weird that I find the concept of Tenant/user/role confusing?17:38
ksedgeheckj: I feel like I'm missing something...17:38
heckjksedge: no, they got very confused some time ago - it's been a struggle to sort it out and make it clear17:38
ksedgeheckj: okay.  I feel a little less stupid now :P17:39
heckjksedge: a user "joe" can be associated with a tenant "heckj-project". "joe" doesn't own anything, although he has permissions to access and interact with resources all owned by "heckj-project"17:39
heckjksedge: the glance/service setup that you're seeing in devstack (or something like) is a means of providing the openstack services with an identity (and accompanying tenant) so they can do things like validate authentication.17:39
ksedgeheckj: so ownership in this case is like being a gatekeeper?17:39
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heckjksedge: I don't understand the implications of that question (what it means to be a gatekeeper), so I'm hesitant to say "yes" to that17:40
ksedgeheckj: the gatekeeper (tenant) decides who (of the users) is allowed to enter the park (resources)?17:40
ksedgeheckj: I'm working on my metaphores :P17:41
ksedge*metaphors17:41
ksedgeheckj: and my spelling I guess.17:41
ksedgeheckj: put another way, the tenant is responsible (in a sense) for authenticating users?17:42
heckjksedge: you're putting more responsibility on the concept than it actually has. The tenant is a data structure/representation only - used to identify ownership. The "gatekeeper" conceot is actually performed by the services themselves, allowing or disallowing access to their resources for those users as they're authenticated to a tenant.17:42
ksedgeheckj: I know keystone does authentication, but I'm just trying to explicitly understand the concept of ownership in this concept17:42
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heckjthe user/tenant split (I prefer to think of it as user/project split) - allows a user to work with more than one project - although I suspect in practice that's rarely used.17:43
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heckjkeystone does authentication, and it also provides authorization information. When you auth to keystone, you get a token that's associated with either just yourself (pretty darned useless to anything other than keystone), or assocaited with yourself and a tenant.17:44
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ksedgeahhh, the pieces are starting to fit.17:44
heckjThe services check that token against your requests through the API to see if the token has permissions relevant to the resource you're asking to mess with17:44
heckjmake a little more sense?17:45
ksedgeyes17:45
ksedgeso the service checks to make sure that the user with the token is actually associated with the tenant of the resources they're trying to access17:45
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ksedgeam I on the right track?17:45
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ksedgeexcept that the check itself is first done by keystone17:46
ksedgeand that information is put in the token17:46
ksedgeyes?17:46
vkmcheckj, Don't think is possible but... Can you have one volume (or a VM, or a Container... etc) associated with more than a tenant?17:46
dolphmksedge: that responsibility is keystone's as well, implemented in the keystoneclient's auth_token middleware (auth_token informs the underlying service what tenant is being accessed and what roles the end user has on that tenant)17:47
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heckjvkmc: no, not at this time - ownership isn't allowed to be split across tenants (projects)17:47
heckjksedge: what dolphm said...17:48
ksedgedophm: ty!17:48
heckjksedge: the "auth_token" middleware is code that we're maintaining as a part of keystone that's used by all the services to get the data to make an informed authorization decision17:48
ksedgeheckj: okay.  I understand enough to get started.17:48
vkmcheckj, thx :)17:49
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ksedgeheckj: thank you.  Makes sense now17:49
ksedgeheckj: i'm on an open source research team.  We're trying to automate deployment of production ready openstack implementations with HA17:50
dolphmksedge: going back to what heckj said before, it's up to the service to decide if the user is authorized to perform an action based on the tenant & roles it's provided  by auth_token17:50
ksedgeheckj: I'm trying to set up a proof-of-concept implementation, so your help is really appreciated!17:50
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ksedgedolphm: so the service decides if the tenant/user combo is satisfactory?17:51
heckjksedge: yep17:51
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ksedgethanks guys :D17:51
ksedge(gals?)17:51
heckjksedge: the services do so typically from a policy.json file, which you'll find tucked into each of those projects today (as of the Folsom release)17:52
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ksedgein practical terms, project=tenant=service?17:52
ksedge well, actually project=tenant for sure17:53
ksedgeI guess the service can use multiple tenants?17:53
ksedgetenants/projects?17:53
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heckjksedge: tenant==project, but service is a bit too nebulous a concept to bring into that17:56
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heckjksedge: gotta run for a meeting, bblater17:56
ksedgeheckj: THANK YOU!17:56
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ksedgedolphm: thank you too!17:57
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ksedgedolphm: I'm reading the documentation for Quantum and this is the line that threw me: " In particular, Quantum supports each tenant having multiple private networks, and allows tenants to choose their own IP addressing scheme, even if those IP addresses overlap with those used by other tenants."17:57
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dolphmksedge: that last part just sounds like a warning that quantum isn't doing any sort of validation to avoid IP conflicts17:59
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ksedgedolphm: i thought it was talking about each tenant having a private network of their own, meaning there is no risk of IP conflicts the way you describe.18:01
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ksedgedolphm: I suppose it makes sense given the context, but the networking is really complicated with this software!18:01
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ksedgedolphm: regarding the ip confict thing, I'm still trying to wrap my brain aroud how a tenant could have a network in the first place.18:05
ksedgedolphm: the tenant/user/role/service concepts are still slippery for me18:05
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swaT30gmi: FYI, was able to get it working based on this https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg19385.html. Switched the pub interface to br100 in nova.conf18:08
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redthruxi've got a general question about remediating an instance that nova thinks is broken but I've verified everything is functional - what are some things I can do with cli tools to resolve "cannot x while instance is in vm_state error" messages18:09
gmiswaT30:it makes sense; I'm glad you got it working18:09
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swaT30gmi: thanks again for your help18:11
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spicewieselafter setting up the controller I tried to login to the dashboard. After inserting correct credentials I got forwarded to /horizon/syspanel, but only a "internal server error" is shown. could any push me in the right direction to find my mistake?18:18
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gmiswaT30:welcome, although you fixed it yourself18:42
gmispicewiesel:check /var/log/nova/nova-api.log on the controller18:42
spicewieselgmi: no error there while logging in. just a debug:  DEBUG nova.api.openstack.wsgi [-] No Content-Type provided in request from (pid=15652) get_body /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py:78318:44
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gmispicewiesel:check also keystone and apache logs18:45
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spicewieselgmi: I did, I cannot find any error. Keystone procedure seems nice, apache error log is quiet18:56
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gmispicewiesel:can you use novaclient to list instances? in this way you would test keystone and nova-api in the same time18:58
spicewieselI followd the docu and I finished the controller setup when I was told to open and login to the dashboard. there is no compute node at the moment.18:59
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ksedgeshot in the dark: anyone know if Ubuntu still has lanmap in its repos? and if so which ones?19:16
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pmatulisi'm trying to use 'keystone usr-create' but seems it does not understand the --tenant-id argument anymore (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1509607/). thoughts?19:22
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ksedgemaybe try os_tenant_id?19:23
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ksedgepmatulis: couldn't you specify the tenant name instead?19:29
ksedgepmatulis: or am I missing something?19:30
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agyksedge: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lanmap&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all <- no lanmap since hardy19:40
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ksedgeagy: you rock! thanks19:42
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FiveohmikeQuestion:  When adding a second compute node, shoudl you keep the hardware symmetrical with the first?  Or if you use hardware with a lot different specs, does the scheduler handle this?20:00
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ksedgeFiveohmike: Good question.  I'd be interested in the answer20:01
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gmiFiveohmike: hardware can be different, the scheduler will assign instances based on load; read this doc for more detailed info on how it works https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/e93514d3-c4f0-4aa0-8844-497f370090f5/entry/openstack_nova_scheduler_and_its_algorithm27?lang=en20:05
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Fiveohmikegmi: Thanks! Will dig into the doc.20:06
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gmiFiveohmike: that analysis was for Essex, so things might be a little different in Folsom20:08
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pmatulisksedge: thing is, i'm pretty sure i used the original command about a month ago, dec 3/4 to be exact20:12
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Fiveohmikegmi: its ok, its helping for the most part.  I just want to move away form the simple scheduler as my main compute node has 96GB ram and 2 sockets, and the second compute node is a single socket, 48gB ram  I think I will need to figure out how to set the scheduler.filters20:13
gmiFiveohmike: the Folsom documentation covers the scheduler part pretty well: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/admin/content/costs-and-weights.html20:13
pmatulisksedge: i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with keystone_2012.1+stable~20120824-a16a0ab9-0ubuntu2.320:14
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Fiveohmikegmi: your the man!  I was looking in the installation docs, not the admin guides...I blame the dayquil :p20:15
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ksedgepmatulis: the only one in the man pages that I can find is os_tenant_id20:16
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gmipmatulis: try to use "keystone user-create --name admin --tenant_id $TMP_JUMPSTART_TENANT --pass $KEYSTONE_ADMIN_USER_PASSWORD --email $KEYSTONE_ADMIN_USER_EMAIL"20:17
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koolhead17annegentle-itsme, using multiple devices? :)20:18
ksedgepmatulis: ahh he's right.  keystone help user-create20:18
ksedgegmi: you're rockin' it!20:18
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gmiksedge: thanks, sometimes I get it right :)20:19
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annegentle-itsmekoolhead17: no I'm trying to get a bouncer to stop registering me but not quite there yet20:20
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koolhead17sandywalsh, hello20:21
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sandywalshkoolhead17: hey!20:21
koolhead17annegentle-itsme, k'20:22
koolhead17sandywalsh, got sometime ?20:22
sandywalshkoolhead17: not right now. In TX currently and just getting synced up with the team ... later this week though20:23
ksedgeQuestion about Quantum: How does this (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/use_cases_tenant_router.html) fit into this (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/connectivity.html)??20:23
koolhead17sandywalsh, cool. just let me know a day in adv :)20:23
sandywalshkoolhead17: will do20:23
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Fiveohmikelast question: How useful are the Mirantis 2 day bootcamps? My boss signed me up for the one in February since I am the one building the OpenStack deployment.20:25
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koolhead17ksedge, i would say at that data network20:26
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ksedgekoolhead17: that was my first thought too, but it says "external network"20:26
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ksedgekoolhead17: which makes more sense now that I think about it...20:27
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ksedgekoolhead17: If I figure this out, I'm gonna make a super diagram of this20:27
koolhead17u will have agent creating multiple bridges20:27
koolhead17ksedge, please do share with us :)20:27
ksedgekoolhead17, gladly! here's our research team's blog if you wanna follow what we're up to: http://senecacd.wordpress.com/20:28
koolhead17ksedge, also add it to planet.openstack,org to help wider audience :)20:29
ksedgekoolhead17: great suggestion :D20:30
koolhead17:)20:30
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gmiksedge: glad to see canadian presence in openstack :)20:33
ksedgegmi: :D20:33
ksedgegmi: hopefully we'll have something substantial to contribute over the next few months - we're still feeling out the technology20:34
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gmiksedge: cool, I'm a Seneca alumni too20:40
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pmatulisksedge: gah20:52
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ksedgeip21:13
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ksedgehaha wrong keyboard21:14
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bennerdoes anyone using ppa:openstack-ubuntu-testing/grizzly-trunk-testing?21:39
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Andreinope, sorry21:40
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tms_Hey folks, I have an interesting problem. Namely that instances can not communicate with the physical host on which they are hosted.23:09
tms_Normally this seems like a great idea, security segregation and such, but there are some instances (monitoring, log aggrigation) in which this is causing me issues23:10
tms_is there any way to specifically allow this sort of functionality for a given instance?23:10
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esharpean instance that seemingly will not die shows in Horizon as status=error, task=deleting in openstack folsom. Any way to really purge such a case?  Does not show up in "nova list" …23:52
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