Tuesday, 2012-12-11

warikWormMan: ok, thanks i will look at that00:00
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WormManwoo, I found the magic tool to set these servers to use ssh for their console00:17
WormMan(sure faster than hitting their web interface 66 times)00:17
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1088730 in horizon "Can't add a Custom flavor using Hoizon dashbaord" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108873001:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1088736 in horizon "Add Image required on Horozon Dashboard  like Update Image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108873601:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1088746 in heat "cfn-signal waitcondition fails due to URL quoting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108874602:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1088761 in openstack-ci "minidns is leaking temp directories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108876103:58
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swift-indiaHi All06:17
swift-indiacan anyone look at the question https://answers.launchpad.net/swift/+question/21643406:18
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zykes-anyone here running xenserver?09:28
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alex88hi guys, someone used ceph for vm storing?09:50
zykes-alex88: I think some is09:52
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alex88zykes-, I'm not following this from some time, did someone implements the vm HA feature?09:53
zykes-I think they did but using NFS, maybe kpavel knows ?09:53
alex88let's see then :)09:53
kpavelyep, it's part of the rebuild-for-ha patch i'm submitting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11086/09:55
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alex88someone ever read this? http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/OpenStack:Essex_Multi_Node_HA09:55
alex88kpavel, oh, seems very nice!09:56
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koolhead17its on Essex09:58
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alex88koolhead17, yeah, but seems still a nice read09:59
VivekHi koolhead1709:59
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koolhead17alex88: if i want to use puppet. :)10:00
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alex88koolhead17, and it works when you don't have the openstack controller failed :D10:00
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koolhead17alex88: :P10:01
alex88but seems that with those node types you can install a full HA openstack env10:02
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alex88also, still no multi-host feature for quantum?10:06
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koolhead17alex88: am still quantum n00b :)10:09
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zykes-quantum is so sice koolhead17 !: )10:20
zykes-alex88: I think that's still under discussion10:20
koolhead17alex88: i forgot zykes- is my quantum expert :)10:21
zykes-maybe some of the quantum devs know but they're not online atm :)10:21
ThiagoCMCMorning guys!10:21
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ThiagoCMCLook! I just got my IPv6 block 2001:1291:200:83f6::/64 !!! It is already working side-by-side within my LAN (172.16.0.0 / 192.168.0.0) !!10:22
ThiagoCMCSo, how can I tell openstack to use that block?10:22
zykes-register it as a subnet10:22
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zykes-but are you using quantum tjikkun ?10:23
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zykes-ehm, ThiagoCMC .10:23
ThiagoCMCmy Instances are on 10.0.0.0/21...10:23
ThiagoCMCall working, minus IPv610:23
ThiagoCMCexcept ipv6...10:24
zykes-quantum ?10:24
ThiagoCMCI think not10:24
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ThiagoCMCAlamo10:24
ThiagoCMC210:24
ThiagoCMCI'm reading this: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-compute-to-use-ipv6-addresses.html10:24
ThiagoCMCbut don't know what to do10:24
alex88thanks zykes- , since servers here at work has a fixed bandwidth and routing all trough one can be a bottleneck10:25
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ThiagoCMCfor example, radvd is already working at my firewall, do I need it on every nova-node as the doc says?10:25
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zykes-alex88: though I think it's getting landed during G2 or possibly G310:27
ThiagoCMCi don't know the syntax of "nova-manage network create" for my IPv6 block...10:27
ThiagoCMCon that doc, there is a IPv4 block on the same line... WTF?   :-P10:28
ThiagoCMChehe10:28
alex88zykes-, thank you very much for the info10:29
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alex88someone knows if devstack installs folsom or essex?10:46
koolhead17alex88: folsom from trunk10:46
alex88<koolhead17> i have no idea :P10:47
alex88 <koolhead17> i dont use devstack after essex10:47
alex88are you kidding me? :P10:47
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koolhead17alex88: ooh. i got confused10:48
koolhead17alex88: you can always swich to stable essex10:48
koolhead17after getting the trunk10:48
alex88well, i wanted to use folsom trunk :)10:49
alex88or at least latest folsom10:49
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koolhead17alex88: so you have the answer. )10:52
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alex88koolhead17, yup, thank you very much10:55
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lydawould anyone know if hp procurve switches are supported by quantum?11:01
de_munkdoes anyone know here any performance advantages in using either kvm or xen as hypervisor?11:01
zykes-lyda: quantum itself doesn't decide what is supported of switches11:03
zykes-the plugin you use does11:03
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mooperdHi, If I build a bridge (br0) on each of my hosts..How can I get openstack to use that bridge?11:24
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ThiagoCMCGuys... zykes-    =P   Can someone explain to me why there is a IPv4 segment at the same line for IPv6 block? Here: "nova-manage network create public 10.0.2.0/24 3 32 0 0 fd00:1::/48"11:29
ThiagoCMCSource: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-compute-to-use-ipv6-addresses.html11:29
ThiagoCMCWhere those "fixed_range num_networks network_size" come from? Floating IPs?11:30
ThiagoCMCInstance network?11:30
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ThiagoCMCsorry guys, my desktop froze, someone have answered me? Maybe I lost the latest messages...11:46
ThiagoCMC:(11:46
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ThiagoCMCCan someone explain to me why there is a IPv4 block to add a IPv6 subnet block to OpenStack? Source: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-compute-to-use-ipv6-addresses.html11:53
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NuxRohi, how do I set unlimited quota for a project? I thought I was supposed to specify "-1"12:32
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NuxRoin horizon that is12:40
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jasonozhmm12:50
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mooperddoes openstack-nova-network have to run on all nodes?12:54
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Vegamooperd: I have had to run network on all nodes in folsom, not sure it was my configuration, but it does work. I am running compute, network, metadata on all nodes12:56
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mooperdVega: hmm, my vlans are not being created with or without network....12:58
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Vegamooperd sorry flatdhcp here12:59
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ThiagoCMC Can someone explain to me why there is a IPv4 block to add a IPv6 subnet block to OpenStack? Source: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-compute-to-use-ipv6-addresses.html - And where that IPv4 come from?13:14
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fifieldthi, the nova-manage network create has fields for v4 and v613:16
fifieldtthey are "one" network13:16
fifieldtso one creation command13:16
fifieldt$ nova-manage network create public fixed_range num_networks network_size vlan_start vpn_start fixed_range_v613:16
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fifieldtdoes that answer your question ThiagoCMC ?13:19
ThiagoCMCNot really...13:19
ThiagoCMCMy Instances have the IPv4 range 10.0.0.0/2113:20
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ThiagoCMCAnd I have the IPv6 subnet 2001:1291:200:83f6::/6413:20
ThiagoCMCSo, my nova-manage command options will be: network create public 10.0.0.0/21 3 32 0 0 2001:1291:200:83f6::/64   ?13:21
ThiagoCMCI'm not using Floating IPs.13:22
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ThiagoCMChow to calculate num_networks network_size ?13:22
fifieldtAre you using the entire /21 for your setup ?13:23
ThiagoCMCyes13:23
fifieldtif so, you have num_networks = 113:23
fifieldtand network size = ... *calculates*13:23
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fifieldt8190 ?13:23
ThiagoCMC2048?13:23
fifieldtsorry, I went the wrong way13:24
ThiagoCMC:-P13:24
fifieldtyou're correct13:24
ThiagoCMCThat's it, I'm planning to run at least 1500 Instances.13:24
ThiagoCMCCool! I'll try it!13:24
fifieldtgood luck :)13:24
ThiagoCMChey!13:24
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ThiagoCMCbut why a /24 have size 32 ?13:25
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ThiagoCMCas the example illustrated at the openstack doc?13:25
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ThiagoCMC*confused again*13:25
ThiagoCMClol13:25
fifieldtperhaps the example was supposed to be a range that was used in different places13:25
koolhead17scalability-junk: hi there13:26
ThiagoCMCMmmm13:26
fifieldtI agree it's not very clear13:26
ThiagoCMCwell13:26
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ThiagoCMCmy subnet 10.0.0.0/21 is already in use13:26
ThiagoCMCI just want to add IPv6.13:26
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ThiagoCMCDo I need to add IPv4 again?13:26
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fifieldtMy best guess is yes - I'm not sure you can leave those blank13:27
ThiagoCMCok13:27
scalability-junkkoolhead17, hey how are you?13:27
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fifieldtand you wan the v4 and v6 networks to be associated with each other13:27
ThiagoCMCsounds good13:27
koolhead17scalability-junk: am good. how about you?13:27
fifieldtThiagoCMC,  got a launchpad account? You can attack the documentation team with bugs at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+filebug :)13:28
ThiagoCMCyes, I have a launchpad account...13:28
ThiagoCMCI'll do it!13:28
fifieldtthanks so much :)13:28
ThiagoCMCThank you!13:28
ThiagoCMC=)13:28
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ThiagoCMCfifieldt, you think that there will be (soon) a IPv6-only OpenStack ?13:29
scalability-junkkoolhead17, a lot of work on my plate, especially getting my head around os automation with ubuntu to finally setup my 2 node fully automated openstack environment.13:29
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ThiagoCMCscalability-junk, using what tool for automation? Something like MaaS + Juju, or Puppet?13:30
ThiagoCMCOr Chef...?13:30
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scalability-junkThiagoCMC, the plan was to automate the install with kickstart, but that isn't really supported with ubuntu. now I'm trying with preseed.13:30
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scalability-junkautomated install with raid, encryption, lvm, ssh and ssh for preboot + all packages to setup chef probably.13:31
scalability-junkthen use chef to install a real chef server with keepalived, haproxy on 2 servers.13:31
Vega scalability-junk: I use cobbler and ansible for my automated installs13:32
ThiagoCMCGreat setup! Congrats!13:32
scalability-junkand after that use chef to install openstack on both servers and finally a ceph thingy for blockstorage13:32
ThiagoCMCpreseed is awesome!13:32
pokoliThiagoCMC: I've succefully setup openstack with puppet. Tutorialhere http://edin.no-ip.com/blog/hswong3i/openstack-folsom-deploy-puppet-ubuntu-12-04-howto13:32
scalability-junkThiagoCMC, not working yet :P13:32
pokolibut I wonder if chef if better or not13:32
pokolisome feedback would be appreciated13:32
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Vegaif you are looking for something simple that just works check out ansible13:33
ThiagoCMCscalability-junk, Ubuntu MaaS have good pressed examples...   ;-)13:33
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scalability-junkThiagoCMC, awesome? kickstart was awesome... preseed is just bad documented and clunky with raid1 for boot, raid1 with encrypted lvm with root and swap and home logical volume...13:33
ThiagoCMCpokoli, your URL does not open...13:34
ThiagoCMC=(13:34
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scalability-junkVega, will take a look at it.13:35
scalability-junkThiagoCMC, any link?13:35
pokoliThiagoCMC: I don't have a copy of the website, sorry. But it was up the last week13:35
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pokoliThiagoCMC: I'm going out, we can continue in 1 hour. :)13:36
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ThiagoCMCok... got to go too... See U!13:36
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lydai'm looking at xtradb for an openstack deployment.  i note that there are many of the normal mysql replication limitations; are these taken account of in how openstack uses the db?14:32
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vkdrao4osHello14:34
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odyssey4megood afternoon all :) how's everyone doing?15:12
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majohmy toe is itching15:15
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NashTrashGood Morning Stackers15:19
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odyssey4meg'morning - well, afternoon for me NashTrash15:26
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odyssey4meI have an issue which I'd love some help figuring out.15:26
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odyssey4meI have the NoVNC Proxy working, but only when I cut off its access to mysql... for some reason when mysql access is available, it can't authenticate the connection and therefore it fails.15:27
odyssey4meI'm using Essex FYI.15:27
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NashTrashodyssey4me: I am trying to work through VNC issues too.  But I can't get it to connect at all.  I just get a black screen15:32
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kbringardthis via horizon?15:34
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kbringardNashTrash: ^^15:35
NashTrashkbringard: Yes, and I just got it working.  I was not setting vncserver_proxyclient_address properly.  I had it at the default 127.0.0.1.15:36
kbringardah15:36
kbringardthat'll do it :-)15:36
NashTrashSilly Graham15:36
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NashTrashMy Folsom cloud is shaping up nicely.15:37
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kbringardyea, ps aux | grep kvm will show you what address and port(s) the VNC listener is on15:37
odyssey4melol silly mistake that :p15:37
kbringardare you using multi-host?15:37
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kbringardi'm having a very strange issue15:37
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NashTrashkbringard: Not right now.15:37
kbringardwhere… the first instance that launches gets network just fine15:37
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NashTrashYou using Quantum?15:38
kbringardbut then subsequent instances don't get the correct route from the dhcp server15:38
kbringardnaw, just VLAN manager15:38
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kbringardNashTrash: from the cloud-init output15:39
kbringardhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/27831/15:39
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kbringardyou can see how the first instance gets a default gateway, which correctly points to the NC running on the appropriate compute node15:40
kbringardbut then on subsequent instances, the default gateway doesn't get set15:40
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themadcanudistHey guys, I'm running swift 1.7.5 + swiftclient (Trunk) and trying to run "swift-dispersion-populate". It runs, creates all the containers and then gets a "411 Length Required" Error when trying to PUT the objects. This is *very* weird. Here is the traceback: http://paste.openstack.org/show/27832/ in full detail. Can anyone assist?15:44
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swinchenIs there a "typical" set of APIs that are usually exposed outside of the cluster?15:46
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odyssey4meodd - what exactly does nova-consoleauth do with the database15:49
odyssey4me?15:50
odyssey4meit seems to use it for session tracking, but I would have thought that it would validate tokens against keystone or use rabbitmq instead?15:50
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monster_anyone know how to create an Image from a Snapshot?15:59
monster_Glance-replicator only replicates images and not snapshots.16:00
NashTrashkbringard: Sorry, got pulled into a meeting.  Very odd on the network issue.16:00
kbringardNashTrash: no worries. yea, strange, right?16:01
kbringardI'm sure I've just missed something silly16:01
NashTrashI can't even think of which service would be messing that up.16:01
kbringardyea, me either16:01
kbringardI blame dnsmasq :-p16:01
NashTrashAlways a good one to blame.16:02
NashTrashSee if you can get Vish's ear.  He would be the one to help.16:02
kbringardyea, I was going to ping him in a bit16:02
kbringardwas just checking to see if anyone else had seen this before16:02
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NashTrashSorry I can't help more.16:05
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odyssey4meok, this is very confusing16:05
Vegakbringard: did you try to run the novnc process from the comand line?16:05
odyssey4meAlthough I'm not all that great at reading python (yet), I don't see why nova-consoleauth needs access to mysql at all16:06
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odyssey4mein essex it tracks tokens in memory; in folsom it does it in memcache16:06
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odyssey4mebut for some reason I keep getting this error16:07
odyssey4me2012-12-11 18:07:38 WARNING nova.db.sqlalchemy.session [req-4f78084a-7d09-4482-8fb9-66982578fe50 None None] SQL connection failed. 8 attempts left.16:07
kbringardVega: my issue isn't vnc16:08
kbringardmy issue is that VMs themselves aren't getting the proper route info16:08
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Vegakbringard: sorry i misunderstook16:09
kbringardVega: no worries, I appreciate you trying to help :-)16:09
kbringardI think that was Nash's issue and then I changed topics16:09
kbringardso the confusion is warranted :_D16:10
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odyssey4meI take it no-one likes to work on consoleauth. ;)16:10
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Vegakbridgard: Gotcha. I have just went through alot of novnc issues so i am really good at debugging it!16:11
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odyssey4meVega - any chance you can help me out?16:12
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gmikbringard: your networking issue is very strange...has it always happened like that?16:17
kbringardgmi: good question… this is my first deploy with VLAN networking mode since Diablo16:18
kbringardand I've deployed multi_host before but again, not since diablo16:18
kbringardbut it's always done this with my folsom deploy16:19
gmikbringard: but did your instance properly get their gw before?16:19
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kbringardno, it's always done this with my folsom deploy16:19
kbringardbut the odd thing is16:19
kbringardif I terminate the "working" instance16:19
gmioh, so you're running Folsom with nova-network16:19
kbringardand then spin up a new one16:19
kbringardthe new one will get a gateway16:19
kbringardit's like it only wants to hand out one gateway16:19
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Vegaodyseey4me: sure16:21
gmikbringard: I spent so much time getting a working Essex environment that Folsom is not on my roadmap, especially with all the bugs and missing functionality; I will probably wait for Grizzly and just skip Folsom16:22
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kbringardseems reasonable, lol16:22
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de_munkIs it possible to vnc directly into an instance and if so: how can i do that?16:23
kbringardok, this is interesting16:23
kbringardand I think this is why it's happening16:23
odyssey4meVega - thanks. It's an odd situation and I'm not sure where to look. I'm using Essex and have the novnc and nova-consoleauth on the same server, but everything else on other servers. The VNC access works, but only if I block access from consoleauth/novnc to the mysql database. Any thoughts?16:23
kbringardso I just have to figure out wtf it's doing this16:23
kbringardit's the first instance I launch to net:NW-1016:24
kbringardthen subsequent instances are tagged net:NW-1116:24
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kbringardand, there's a .opts file16:24
kbringardwhich has NW-11,316:24
kbringardso leases tagged NW-11 are not getting a gateway16:24
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patrickt333Do all nodes need to run nova-volume, or do machines mount their volumes over iscsi?16:25
Vegaodyseey4me: never seen that, but they way i have solved all my issues so far has been to run novnc from the command line so i can see the errors, one was a miss configuration in nova.conf and the others where iptables not leeting ports 6800-6803 through16:25
gmipatrickt333:machines mount their volumes over iscsi, only the nova-volume node has to run this service16:26
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patrickt333gmi: thanks.16:27
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odyssey4meVega - good tip, let me try that16:27
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patrickt333gmi: so, if that's the case, why to volume nodes need to run networking?  (at least that's what docs indicate.16:27
odyssey4meVega - although, I think this may have something to do with the tokens16:28
patrickt333s/to/do/16:28
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gmipatrickt333: can you point to that doc? you don't need to run nova-network on the node where nova-volumes runs16:28
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patrickt333gmi: Please note that the network mode doesn't interfere at all with the way nova-volume works, but networking must be set up for nova-volumes to work. Please refer to Networking for more details.16:30
patrickt333gmi: Please note that the network mode doesn't interfere at all with the way nova-volume works, but networking must be set up for nova-volumes to work. Please refer to Networking for more details.16:31
kbringardgmi: I discovered my issue16:31
patrickt333gmi: sorry: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-volumes.html16:31
patrickt333gmi: am i misinterpreting?16:31
gmipatrickt333: yes, they mean that your nova-volume needs to have the networking stack properly set so nova-compute nodes can reach the nova-volume in order to mount the iscsi targets16:32
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gmipatrickt333: the doc doesn't refer to the nova-networking service, but to networking in general16:33
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kbringardgmi: I believe I have discovered the issue16:34
kbringardif you care :-D16:34
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kbringardthe quick version is… there's a flag use_single_default_gateway16:34
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odyssey4meVega - ok, I see the error in novnc now... invalid token.16:34
gmikbringard: I know that flag16:34
kbringardgmi: it looks like it's bugged16:34
patrickt333gmi: thanks for the clarification.16:35
odyssey4mewhere to from here - is there a way I can see a list of valid tokens?16:35
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gmikbringard: no surprise there :(16:35
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kbringardso that instead of not giving a gateway to subsequent VIFs on a single VM16:35
kbringardit's not assigning a gateway to *any* subsequent VIFs16:35
gmikbringard: it's close enough :)16:35
kbringardso you spin up one VM and it gets a gateway16:35
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kbringardyou spin up 10 more and it doesn't give any of them gateways16:36
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gmikbringard: does it work fine if you disable that flag? I mean, if you don't need VMs with multiple NICs16:37
kbringardyep16:37
kbringardI just tested it16:37
kbringardverified by looking at the leases file, and by spinning up multiple VMs16:37
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de_munkis there really no one who knows if it possible to vnc directly into an instance and if so: how can i do that?16:38
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gmikbringard: so it's a bug that only affects a specific use case (multiple NICs) and probably the fix wouldn't be that hard, you should open a bug report16:38
kbringardcorrect16:39
kbringardI'm looking for the code to reference in the bug16:39
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kbringardif it's an easy fix I'll attach a patch to the bug16:39
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gmikbringard: so you're the reason I will soon have to work on deploying Folsom...16:40
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kbringardhah, I can hold off on fixing it if you'd like ;-)16:41
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gmikbringard: the genie is out of the bottle16:41
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gmikbringard: although you have to fix multi-host networking and floating IP allocation through Dashboard before I touch Folsom, so I might be safe for a while16:43
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kbringardgmi: lol16:44
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kbringardgmi: actually, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/107585916:57
kbringardit looks like it's already been fixed...16:58
* kbringard wonders why it's not in my distrobution16:58
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odyssey4meVega: I've narrowed it down. It seems like a time delay for the token. If I create a token via the nova command line, then use the URL provided, it doesn't work until a few seconds later.16:58
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Vegaodyssey4me: great news17:02
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Vegaodyssey4me: at least your have the real error and not something else17:02
Vegaodyssey4me: i havent seena delay for token myself17:03
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Guest59432when I create and associate a floating ip, the nat rules are getting created on the controller instead of the compute node17:07
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odyssey4meVega: ok, I was wrong... it's not a delay... If I use ‘nova get-vnc-console test3 novnc’ to create the URL including the token it does not work on the first attempt… only the second attempt works. It’s not a time delay – it seems that it only fetches the token into memory for validation on the first attempt, then actually does the validation on the second attempt.17:07
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odyssey4meVega: by first/second attempt I mean accessing the URL17:07
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Guest59432when I create and associate a floating ip, the nat rules are getting created on the controller instead of the compute node, can someone help me figure this out?17:08
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sgranthat is how it should be17:08
sgranthe controller is your network gateway, effectively17:09
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Guest59432sgran>: but I am not able to ping that address from anywhere?17:09
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odyssey4meguest: have you allowed icmp through your access rules?17:10
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Guest59432sgran: I am able to ping the fixed ip though17:10
sgranI should you be able to?  It doesn't sound like you've understood where your network terminates so far, have you configured everything else around openstack appropriately?17:10
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Guest59432sgran: I think everything else os configured proper;y17:12
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Guest59432sgran: -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 172.19.71.229/32 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.2, this rule should forward the ping to 10.0.0.2 right?17:14
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sgranit will, if anything sends a ping for 172.19.71.229 to that machine, and if you have your networks and vlans set up, yes17:14
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Guest59432sgran: there is no vlan in my setup. am using flatdhcp manager. what could be causing the problem?17:17
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sgranfrom your controller, can you ping 10.0.0.2 ?17:18
Guest59432sgran: yes i can17:18
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sgrancan you also ping 172.19.71.229 ?17:18
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sgranfrom the controller17:19
Guest59432sgran: no i cannot17:19
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sgranwell, your controller should have brought that ip up as well as added the NAT line, I would have thought17:19
sgranoh, wait, maybe not ping17:20
sgrandoes `ip addr | grep 172.19.71.229` show anything ?17:20
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Guest59432sgran: yes, inet 172.19.71.229/32 scope global eth017:20
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sgranok, so you're just not allowing icmp through the firewall on the controller17:21
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patrickt333so, had a few volumes fail during creation, now nova won't delete them.  Any way to do it other than manually editing mysql tables?17:27
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odyssey4meOdd issue with novnc proxy - it seems that when I use the token the first time, it doesn't work. But it does with the same token the second time. Any thoughts on what may be wrong or how to debug any further?17:50
odyssey4meCan anyone help?17:51
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swift-indiaHi ALL18:16
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MilesOfDenverhi18:17
swift-indiacan we assign ACLs for objects in swift?  or is it only possible for containers ?18:17
notmynameswift-india: just containers18:18
swift-indiacool18:18
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swift-indiathanks +notmyname18:18
swift-indiacan u have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/swift/+question/21643418:18
swift-indiai have posted the issue today itself18:19
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kbringardnotmyname: can you do ACls on containers with keystone, to, for instance, set a container to public?18:19
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kbringardand can a user do it, or does an admin have to do it?18:19
swift-indiakbringard: yes you can, an admin has to do it18:19
kbringardswift-india: with keystone? or swauth?18:20
swift-indiakbringard: an account admin i mean18:20
swift-indiakbringard: i think the auth middleware does not matter18:20
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notmynameswift-india: re the LP question, what you're seeing has to do with how cyberduck is translating the requests to the swift backend. swift is working as intended18:21
notmynameswift-india: re ACLs, the auth middleware absolutely matters. it's what implements the ACLs support18:22
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swift-india+notmyname: ohh ok, I am sorry18:22
swift-india+notmyname: i'll try to reproduce the same thing using swift api calls (curl commands)18:23
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kbringardnotmyname: do you know if it's possible with the keystone middleware?18:23
notmynameswift-india: cyberduck created "directory marker" objects when you make pseudo-directories. however, they aren't needed. so that's why cyberduck still shows the same thing when the swift CLI shws different things18:24
swift-india+notmyname: I think I won't be able to reproduce the same thing as I won't be able to delete recursively using curl18:25
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swift-india+notmyname:  got it,  so,  i don't need the directory marker objects, I can live without it18:27
notmynameswift-india: correct18:27
swift-indiaI had also raised a bug in versioning,  did u get a chance to look at it ?18:27
swift-india+notmyname: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/108396718:28
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notmynameswift-india: looks like the same basic issue18:30
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notmynameswift-india: there is no such thing as a folder (or directory) in swift. if you have object A named "somefolder/" and object B named "somefolder/file.txt", then those are both objects and have no semantic meaning in relation to one another18:31
notmynameswift-india: and in your case with versioned writes, when you edit object B, object A is unaffected (and vice versa)18:32
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swift-indiabut,  in such cases, the version folder gets filled with so many unnecessary empty folder object versions18:33
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notmynameswift-india: you are asking swift to keep versions of all the objects in your container. if you edit object A or object B, a version will get saved in the versions container. if you have too many versions of an object, don't update it18:35
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swift-india+notmyname: thats right, i think I got the answer :)  thanks again18:36
notmynameswift-india: I'll close the bug as invalid18:37
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swift-india+notmyname: sure,  thanks18:37
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notmynameswift-india: happy to help. it's a good question and I can see why there is the confusion18:38
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swift-india:)18:38
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swift-india+notmyname: One more query18:54
swift-india+notmyname: I am planning to upgrade swift 1.5.0 to 1.7.5, I referred https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg16188.html18:55
notmynameok18:56
notmynameswift-india: you should also read through https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/CHANGELOG for changes between versions18:56
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swift-india+notmyname : sorry, got disconnected19:00
swift-india+notmyname: ok, so i am planning to upgrade our swift cluster from 1.5.0 to 1.7.519:01
swift-indiai was going through https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg16188.html19:01
notmynameswift-india: you should also read through https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/CHANGELOG for changes between versions19:01
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swift-india+notmyname: you mean I can not upgrade directly to 1.7.5 from 1.5.0 ?19:03
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notmynameswift-india: you can, but the changelog is where important changes (among others) will be listed19:04
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swift-indiaright19:04
notmynameswift-india: point being, the email you linked is not the only release that has been made since 1.5.019:04
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swift-india+notmyname: ohh ok19:05
swift-india+notmyname :  but the url i just gave says, i need to upgrade the box that builds ring files in the last, now, i am having 2 proxy servers,  how do I recognise the box that created the ring files out of 2 proxy servers I have ?19:05
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swift-indiai deployed the infra many months back and i really don't remember which proxy I built the ring from19:05
notmynameswift-india: the proxy isn't made on the cluster. that is done out-of-band. you could do it on your dev box if you wanted19:05
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notmynameswift-india: the change is that the on-disk format was changed, so you should upgrade your cluster and only then do ring operations with new code (so that the new format will be understood by the upgraded cluster)19:06
swift-india+notmyname : so you mean,  create ring files on my dev box and then replace the ring files on the production ?19:06
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notmynameswift-india: only when you need to (if you aren't changing your cluster, there isn't any need to do ring operations)19:07
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notmynameswift-india: the improvement has to do with how long it takes to load the ring (specifically in python2.7)19:08
swift-india+notmyname : by "changing your cluster" you mean add / remove storage nodes ?19:08
notmynameya19:09
swift-india+notmyname : I am not going to do any infra level change though, so I am good to go through the safe upgrade path point 1 given on the link?19:10
swift-india+notmyname: if i m not doing any infra level change then the point no. 2 under safe upgrade path does not apply to me,  right ?19:10
notmynameswift-india: correct19:10
notmynameswift-india: well, point 2 applies19:11
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notmynameswift-india: you need to upgrade swift everywhere. it just matters what order you do it in if you have to make ring changes19:11
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notmynameswift-india: it also matters to be able to roll back if you have issues during the upgrade19:11
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swift-india+notmyname: i m sorry, I am completely lost, can you tell me in short,  what would be my upgrade steps if I am not doing any infra level changes now (in few months time will add more storage nodes though) and just want to upgrade to 1.7.5 for now ?19:14
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kbringardanyone here from the Ubuntu CloudArchive team?19:14
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swift-india+notmyname : I am having 2 proxies and 5 storage nodes19:15
notmynameswift-india: (this is off the top of my head and doesn't take into account other config changes) 1) stop background processes 2) update configs 3) update packages 4) reload processes 5) start background processes  <-- do this on one storage node as a test, then the rest (rolling). then upgrade one proxy at a time19:16
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notmynamethat should allow you do upgrade your cluster with no downtime to your users19:16
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swift-india+notmyname: what about the ring files,  no need to touch them ?19:17
notmynameswift-india: no need to touch them until you have a ring change to make19:18
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swift-india+notmyname: ok,  so in future,  what should I do if I want to add a storage node,  anything other than standard node addition process ?19:19
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notmynameno. it would be done as normal19:20
swifterdarrellswift-india: if your current rings were created using Python2.7, depending on what version you're upgrading from, after the upgrade is completed, recreating your rings will make them load much faster (again, only applies to rings built with Python2.7)19:20
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New2Glancehello I am trying to build multinode stack with Grizzly19:20
swifterdarrellswift-india: (IIRC, this is mentioned in the release notes of whichever version made the ring-serialization enhancements)19:21
swift-indiaswifterdarrell: i'll check it out19:21
New2Glancebut I get this error, Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. when building the Glance images19:21
New2GlanceHow can we troubleshoot this?19:22
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swift-india+notmyname : I think, most of doubts piled up on my head in last few weeks are cleared19:23
notmynameswift-india: great :-)19:23
swift-india+notmyname: thanks a tonn19:23
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swifterdarrellswift-india: note that the ring rebuilding step I mentioned is purely optional and is only a performance enhancement (reduced wall and CPU time loading ring files).  If done, it should be /after/ the upgrade is complete and tested.19:25
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swift-indiaswifterdarrell: ohh ok, its clear now,  thanks :)19:26
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wkharoldjust set up a multi-host Essex stack; controller, two compute nodes, each of them on a Dell M610 blade, i.e., physical hw. VMs created on different blades can ping each other via floating ips but not over their fixed ips. Anyone seen this before?20:53
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zykes-wkharold: vlan problems ?21:01
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wkharoldzykes: should've mentioned I'm using flatdhcp; or did you mean VLAN on the blades?21:03
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NuxRowith flatDhcp, how do you customise start_address and dns servers?21:24
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mattamizerhey all, I'm trying to get swauth working with swift and I was hoping for some help21:43
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mattamizerwhen I attempt to run swauth-prep -K stuff -A http://.… I get a 500 server error21:45
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