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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1051744 in quantum "remove default value of 'local_ip' of 10.0.0.3 in ovs_quantum_plugin.ini " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051744 | 00:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1051752 in nova "EC2 DeregisterImageResponse does not respect AWS specification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051752 | 00:56 |
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| zykes- | anyone here running XenServer with openstack ? | 09:42 |
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| theresajayne | i cant get windows working with openstack | 09:42 |
| theresajayne | any hints | 09:42 |
| theresajayne | even when i have it running on the same machine in virtual machine manager | 09:44 |
| theresajayne | it just doesnt run under openstack | 09:44 |
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| uksysadmin | theresajayne, what guide have you followed to get it that far? What fails? Does it get an IP address? What version OS/OpenStack? | 10:02 |
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| wica | Hi, I'm trying to setup a multi node setup. I have a shared file system on /var/lib/nova/instances | 10:56 |
| wica | But when I wanne start a instance, I get on the compute node "Invalid: Instance has already been created" | 10:56 |
| wica | btw, I'm using ubuntu 12.04.1 and essex | 10:56 |
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| Razique | uksysadmin : hi | 11:31 |
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| Adri2000 | how are quotas managed in folsom? | 13:27 |
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| Adri2000 | http://wiki.openstack.org/KeystoneStoreQuotaData says it should be in folsom but looks like it's not been implemented. so is nova-manage the recommanded way? | 13:28 |
| llirkaz | y | 13:28 |
| llirkaz | woops | 13:28 |
| Adri2000 | s/folsom/keystone/ sorry ... | 13:28 |
| koolhead17 | hey Zurullo_ | 13:28 |
| koolhead17 | zul: | 13:28 |
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| koolhead17 | annegentle: morning | 13:44 |
| annegentle | o/ | 13:45 |
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| Razique | hey annegentle :) | 13:46 |
| Razique | koolhead17 :) | 13:46 |
| koolhead17 | hello Razique | 13:47 |
| koolhead17 | Razique: annegentle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive | 13:47 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 13:47 |
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| Razique | cheers | 13:52 |
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| uksysadmin | Razique, how goes it? | 13:57 |
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| Razique | doing great, we just focused during a week on deploying folsom | 13:57 |
| Razique | and testing it :) | 13:57 |
| Razique | official doc will be updated accordingly | 13:58 |
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| koolhead17 | chmouel: around | 14:00 |
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| KyleMacDonald | wuts up dude! | 14:00 |
| benner | I'm trying devstack and getting this error when lounching instance: libvirtError: Network filter not found: Could not find filter 'nova-instance-instance-00000003-fa163e2e96a6'. Any ideas where to look at? | 14:01 |
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| koolhead17 | KyleMacDonald: rocking as usual, i got disconnected the other night cause of rain :( | 14:01 |
| NuxRo | Hi, is there a way to execute pre-deployment commands with openstack? I'd like to get a image filesystem resized to fit the virtual disk | 14:01 |
| koolhead17 | uksysadmin: Razique needs some swift related help | 14:01 |
| koolhead17 | are you game? :P | 14:02 |
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| uksysadmin | yeah I'm game... if I can help! | 14:05 |
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| * uksysadmin is currently deploying Folsom | 14:05 | |
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| uksysadmin | koolhead17, disconnected due to rain. That a symptom of cloud computing? | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | uksysadmin: how did you found my guide finally ? | 14:06 |
| koolhead17 | uksysadmin: my ISP wants me to sleep sometime hence :) | 14:06 |
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| uksysadmin | EmilienM, I'm working my way through two guides - will be providing feedback on both! :) | 14:09 |
| uksysadmin | haha koolhead17 - powerful stuff - your ISP really does control the clouds then? ;) | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | uksysadmin: oh, interesting, which ones ? | 14:09 |
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| uksysadmin | EmilienM, yours and one provided by koolhead17 | 14:10 |
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| EmilienM | koolhead17: could you provide an URL to your doc ? | 14:11 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: i can mail you right away | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | koolhead17: hello by the way :) | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | oh; great | 14:11 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: remember i told you am workin on one and need your help with Quantum part :) | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | ahah | 14:11 |
| koolhead17 | we are using CloudArchive | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | koolhead17, don't worry. | 14:12 |
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| koolhead17 | EmilienM: swift still has issue | 14:12 |
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| koolhead17 | and we did went through your help/guide 4 Cinder :) | 14:13 |
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| EmilienM | ok | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | oh VlanManager :( | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: hahahahaahah | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | I thought Quantum :p | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | yes quantum not working still for us in CloudArchive | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: :) | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | (joke) | 14:16 |
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| koolhead17 | EmilienM: well need to read up more on Quantum siir :) | 14:16 |
| koolhead17 | i know you been working on it 4 long :) | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | oh yeah you need :p | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | I'm working on now | 14:17 |
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| EmilienM | koolhead17: my guide is a good first start to learn about Quantum deployment | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | you can also use the script to deploy virtual networking | 14:20 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: cool. will do that. :) | 14:20 |
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| gmi | EmilienM: because you obsiously spent a lot of time on Quantum, is there a way to deploy it in highly-available way? I know there is no support for multi-host in Quantum, but the idea of routing all traffic in the cloud through a single node seems pretty risky and not scalable (10,000 instances with 1 Gbps interfaces converging traffic through a 1 or 10 Gbps link)? How are people going to deploy Quantum in a public-cloud production environment? | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | you can use HA | 14:29 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: ^ | 14:29 |
| troya | hi All | 14:29 |
| troya | hi EmilienM | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | gmi: waiting for multi_host in G release | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | troya: Hi | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: I'm working on writing some resource agents to put all Quantum stuffs in HA | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | with Pacemaker | 14:30 |
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| gmi | EmilienM: so just to clarify: you cannot implement Quantum in the Folsom release in a HA way, and users should wait another six months? | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: what is HA for you ? | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | gmi: of course you can | 14:32 |
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| troya | EmilienM: i want to ask, actually i have ip address on eth0 192.168.2.20, then i want to create floating ip which dhcp will start from ip 192.168.2.21, so executed command like $nova-manage floating create --ip_range=192.168.2.21/24, but when i create instance and associate ip, instance get ip 192.168.2.1 | 14:32 |
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| EmilienM | lol | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | troya : 192.168.2.21/24 is 192.168.2.0/24 | 14:33 |
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| EmilienM | you should play with CIDR | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | otherwise nova will create a full range | 14:33 |
| troya | how i can do that ? | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | 192.168.2.21/24 will create 192.168.2.21/24 | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | will create 192.168.2.0/24 | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | http://www.subnet-calculator.com/cidr.php | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | 192.168.2.22/31 at first | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | and play with other largest subnets | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | troya: ^ | 14:36 |
| gmi | EmilienM: Pacemaker will help you with the HA part of the service, but what about the networking capacity issue? 10,000 Gbps into 1 Gbps ? I really liked the Essex multi-host feature that limited the fault domain to a single node and its instances. I will wait for your docs to see how you implement Quantum in a production env. | 14:36 |
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| troya | EmilienM: maybe i will try to use diffferent subnet | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | troya: you definitly should. | 14:37 |
| troya | EmilienM: how about 192.168.2.32/32 ? | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | gmi: you can do that now | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | gmi: you need to implement a virtual networking solution | 14:37 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: http://www.midokura.com/midonet/openstack/ for example | 14:38 |
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| gmi | EmilienM: thanks for that link | 14:42 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: keep in mind to run Quantum in production, you need a good plugin | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | gmi: a good plugin is scalable, HA and not SPOF | 14:43 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: Cisco, Nicira, NEC, Midokura are ones of them | 14:43 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: they allow you to extend Quantum capabilities | 14:43 |
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| gmi | EmilienM: I thought Riu, openvswitch, Nicira and Cisco are the plugins | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | gmi: they are :) | 14:45 |
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| EmilienM | gmi: you have the choice | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | gmi: soon, you'll be able to run multiples plugins in same time | 14:45 |
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| livemoon | ping EmilienM | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | livemoon: o/ | 14:49 |
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| livemoon | EmilienM, I have read you doc about Folsom guide | 14:50 |
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| EmilienM | livemoon: that's great | 14:50 |
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| livemoon | Did the testing repo done by you? | 14:50 |
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| EmilienM | livemoon: no. | 14:51 |
| gmi | EmilienM: thanks for sharing your insights. I hope the Quantum team comes with a really clear doc on implementing Quantum, because things are not getting any easier in the Openstack world. | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | livemoon: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing | 14:51 |
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| EmilienM | livemoon : Chuck Short | 14:52 |
| livemoon | EmilienM, why need create three add-br( br-int, br-eht1, br-ex) | 14:52 |
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| livemoon | In your earlier doc, just need create one ( br-int) | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | livemoon: br-int : bridge used by the agent for all virtual networks | 14:52 |
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| EmilienM | br-eth1 : OVS bridge used by the agent for a physical network to which it is connected | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | br-ex : bridge for external network (L3) | 14:53 |
| livemoon | I see, thanks | 14:53 |
| livemoon | I will go on following your doc, if there is problem ,I will call you | 14:54 |
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| jcglobal | Hello people... I'm trying to launch an instance on a specific node but the nova-scheduler still makes the decision by itself, somebody know which things i'll should check? | 16:57 |
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| koaps | does anyone know what the xenapp plugin is? | 17:28 |
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| kpepple | koaps: do you mean xenapi plugin ? | 17:50 |
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| koaps | kpepple: I'm getting this error while trying to provision a VM to my XCP server, Got exception: ['XENAPP PLUGIN FAILURE', 'version', 'Plugin Error', 'TIMEOUT: No response from agent | 17:53 |
| koaps | not 100% what the xenapp plugin is, seems to be something for windows, but I'm not using windows | 17:53 |
| kpepple | koaps: did you install the xenapi plugins in Dom0 of your XCP compute node ? | 17:54 |
| koaps | yea | 17:54 |
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| koaps | they are there, openstack was able to create the vdi disk and the vm | 17:54 |
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| kpepple | koaps: did you use the XCP version hack to get the xen agent and xenapi plugins on the same version number ? | 17:54 |
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| koaps | didn't know I had to do that for openstack | 17:56 |
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| kpepple | koaps: i think the error that you are getting is xcp/openstack trying to contact the agent on your VM to set the admin password and such | 17:56 |
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| koaps | ah, guess I should check if the agent is on the vm image | 17:58 |
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| NuxRo | guys, whenever i create a m1.small with 10GB disk instance in the guest I also see a 21.5GB /dev/vdb! Anyone knows what's up with that one disk | 18:07 |
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| gmi | NuxRo: your m1.small flavor is defined with a 10 GB root disk and a second ephemeral disk of 20 GB | 18:09 |
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| NuxRo | gmi: thanks, looks like a default. however why don't i see this ephemeral disk in the nova-volumes lvm? | 18:10 |
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| gmi | NuxRo: because nova-volume is not ephemeral | 18:10 |
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| NuxRo | gmi: then where are these disks located? i don't see them in horizon | 18:11 |
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| gmi | NuxRo: /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000XX/disk and /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000XX/disk.local | 18:12 |
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| NuxRo | gmi: thanks. I was under the impression that the ephemeral disks are the nova-volume ones | 18:13 |
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| gmi | NuxRo: no, the nova-volumes are permanent because if your nova-compute host goes down in flames you still have the nova-volume storage | 18:14 |
| guimaluf | NuxRo, no | 18:14 |
| zykes- | is anyone running openstack with xenserver or xen ? | 18:14 |
| gmi | zykes: Rackspace :) | 18:14 |
| guimaluf | NuxRo, ephemeral disk are bult in files on /var/lib/nova/instances | 18:15 |
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| guimaluf | as gmi said xD | 18:15 |
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| guimaluf | gmi, I know my following question is not related directly with openstack, but I'm trying to set up a automatic openstack-node deployment: disk partitioning, nova and swift conf files, vg and lv creation, etc. do you know any tools that can do this in a easy way? I'm trying MAAS + puppet + editing kickstart files but I'm getting lost on this! | 18:20 |
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| gmi | guimaluf: did you try crowbar? | 18:31 |
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| guimaluf | gmi, I dont even know what is this :) but I'll look it now | 18:32 |
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| Mops_ | notmyname: perhaps here? | 18:43 |
| notmyname | Mops_: ya, for a little bit | 18:44 |
| Mops_ | nice, do you have any recommendations regarding object storage hw? | 18:45 |
| Mops_ | obviously i'll be going for SATA drives | 18:45 |
| Mops_ | server grade, because i have bad experience with desktop stuff | 18:45 |
| alop_ | anyone have any tips for running postgreSQL as a instance in openstack? | 18:45 |
| notmyname | Mops_: I'd recommend consumer HDDs ;-) | 18:46 |
| Mops_ | and with the hw shortage the replacements are sometimes delayed | 18:46 |
| Mops_ | really? | 18:46 |
| alop_ | all the googling I've done just talks about using postgres as the nova DB | 18:46 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: ya, swift handles the drive failures, and the extra cost of enterprise drives aren't reflected in the same amount of increased reliability | 18:46 |
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| Mops_ | how about warranty? | 18:46 |
| Mops_ | 5 vs 1 year | 18:47 |
| Mops_ | most consumer stuff has 1 year warranty here | 18:47 |
| Mops_ | server stuff is 5years | 18:47 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: that's going to depend on your company's particular practices. if you don't warrant stuff because you don't let drives leave your DC in non-powder form, you may be able to take advantage of things like that | 18:47 |
| Mops_ | i'm not concearned for the data | 18:48 |
| Mops_ | so i warrant drives | 18:48 |
| Mops_ | any recommendation on number of drives per host? | 18:49 |
| notmyname | Mops_: swift is agnostic to what kind of drives you are using, so you can do the math based on your purchasing agreements, etc to see what drives give you the cheapest drive per GB per year | 18:49 |
| Mops_ | i'll probably be using 1gbit network for the storage cluster | 18:49 |
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| Mops_ | do you perhaps have any experience/benchmark results with NIC bonding | 18:50 |
| Mops_ | for object storage nodes? | 18:50 |
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| Mops_ | for example 5*1gbit per 10gbit on proxy | 18:51 |
| notmyname | Mops_: a common option is a 2U with 12 or 24 drives. about 1 core/spindle and about 16GB RAM. of course, you can optimize all of those things for your use case. | 18:51 |
| notmyname | Mops_: you talked about lots of reads to many small files. so you may benefit from some higher IOPS drives or more RAM | 18:51 |
| notmyname | Mops_: similarly, you may want to add some CPU to your proxy to handle more smaller connections rather than fewer larger connections | 18:52 |
| Mops_ | yep proxy will be quite heavy on the cpu | 18:53 |
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| Mops_ | i'm using HAProxy already to distribute data to another cluster | 18:53 |
| Mops_ | that does the rendering | 18:53 |
| notmyname | Mops_: NIC bonding is "below" swift in that swift will look at the network interface, whatever it is | 18:53 |
| notmyname | Mops_: ya, HAProxy with their new ssl-termination or with something like stud would be good | 18:53 |
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| Mops_ | as for the ram i've seen some threads that mention | 18:54 |
| Mops_ | 1G per 1TB | 18:54 |
| Mops_ | ram to storage ratio | 18:54 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: that is an ok starting point, but normally your RAM is going to be a pretty small percentage of your overall cost. IOW using more or less RAM doesn't affect your total cost all that much | 18:58 |
| notmyname | Mops_: there are a few bigger picture things you can think about | 18:58 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: you can run all the processes on the same box (proxy+account+container+object). this is simplest, but it will have less flexibility and require more powerful boxes on busy clusters | 18:59 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: you can separate out the proxies to independently scale access (cpu+ram) and storage (GB) | 18:59 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: and you could further separate account+container servers (with high IOPS) to allow for better write performance | 19:00 |
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| Mops_ | that was my intention | 19:01 |
| Mops_ | a prototype first | 19:02 |
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| Mops_ | with 5 storage boxes (acc+cont+obj) | 19:02 |
| Mops_ | and a proxy | 19:02 |
| Mops_ | then i'll be able to do some benchmark and math | 19:02 |
| Mops_ | and go from there | 19:02 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: ya that sounds good. the good thing about swift is that you can adjust as you grow | 19:03 |
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| Mops_ | do you know of any statistics for consumer HDD failures in a swift cluster? | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: also, realize that there are several companies that provide specific advice and support around your own swift cluster (and I happen to work for one of them) | 19:05 |
| notmyname | Mops_: the normal response is the google paper on drive failures | 19:05 |
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| Mops_ | notmyname: i know, even my usual HW supplier company is a partner for a company that provides such solutions | 19:08 |
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| mmalesky | general Glance question (Folsom/F3 test code): where do i need to define keystone_authtoken info? | 19:26 |
| mmalesky | api.conf, api-paste.ini, registry.conf, registry-paste.ini.......all of the above or some combination (i.e. paste files only or conf files only)? | 19:27 |
| benner | I'm trying devstack and getting this error when lounching instance: libvirtError: Network filter not found: Could not find filter 'nova-instance-instance-00000003-fa163e2e96a6'. Any ideas where to look at? | 19:27 |
| zykes- | mmalesky: hmm, what you mean. What you need to add to the stuff to get keystone auth to work for glance ? | 19:28 |
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| benner | it seems that /etc/libvirt/nwfilters/ has no any nova-*.xml here. on essex there is nova-basic.xml and so on | 19:29 |
| mmalesky | @zykes- yeah...my glance installation doesn't seem to want to auth through keystone | 19:29 |
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| mmalesky | @zykes- glance gives me an http500 for most actions, although the api.log shows a 401 unauthorized underneath | 19:30 |
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| zykes- | mnewby: your glance configs should look like this mmalesky http://pastebin.com/CjCM1WNi | 19:32 |
| zykes- | glance-api.conf and glance-registry.conf | 19:33 |
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| mmalesky | touche on the name... | 19:34 |
| zykes- | mmalesky: sorry ? ;) | 19:34 |
| mmalesky | @zykes- nah, no worries at all. so...i'm running something along those lines....i think it should be correct. i'm going to put it in a pastebin in a moment here. | 19:35 |
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| mmalesky | i've got authtoken set in my -paste.ini files as well, but i guess i can take that out | 19:35 |
| zykes- | ah | 19:35 |
| zykes- | mmalesky: yeh | 19:35 |
| jcglobal | Hello people... I'm trying to launch an instance on a specific node but the nova-scheduler still makes the decision by itself, somebody know which things i'll should check? | 19:37 |
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| benner | jcglobal: what scheduler are you using? | 19:38 |
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| jcglobal | this is the filter in my nova.conf: scheduler_default_filters=AvailabilityZoneFilter,RamFilter,ComputeFilter,CoreFilter,SameHostFilter,DifferentHostFilter | 19:43 |
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| Mops_ | notmyname: what has better impact on proxy performance, number of cores or higher core frequency? | 19:56 |
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| mmalesky | @zykes- no idea how i borked that up so bad. thanks for pointing me in the right direction though | 20:00 |
| mmalesky | everything seems to be in working order now | 20:00 |
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| erkules | moin, I would like to create instances with pre-created/signed certificates. Where can I read up about that topic? | 20:03 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: it depends on if you are looking for concurrency or single-stream performance | 20:18 |
| Mops_ | concurrency | 20:19 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: the proxy does hashing (md5) and network IO. so concurrency will most benefit from more cores | 20:20 |
| Mops_ | as suspected | 20:20 |
| Mops_ | but wasn't sure | 20:20 |
| Mops_ | i'm not familiar with python and it's performance | 20:21 |
| Mops_ | most of the stuff i do is in java, or (lately almost nothing) in c/c++ | 20:21 |
| notmyname | Mops_: swift uses child worker processes and an event-based framework to handle client connections | 20:22 |
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| jeffspeff | I'm familiar with running multiple virtual machines on the same box, like with vmware workstation or vsphere server; but i'm trying to get the same guest OS to run simulatneously on 2 seperate host machines to acheive high-availabity fail-over. Does openstack make this possible? | 20:28 |
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| KristianDK | Is there a "pipe this thing into your console" for swift, if i just want to play around with it? | 20:29 |
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| KristianDK | * to install | 20:29 |
| notmyname | KristianDK: I heard of one, once upon a time. let me see if I can find it | 20:30 |
| zykes- | KristianDK: you norwegian ? | 20:30 |
| KristianDK | zykes-, Danish :P | 20:30 |
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| zykes- | oh | 20:31 |
| KristianDK | notmyname, I tried this one, but it unfortunately did not work for 12.04 :( https://github.com/btorch/swift-saio.sh | 20:31 |
| notmyname | KristianDK: https://github.com/btorch/swift-saio.sh | 20:31 |
| notmyname | heh | 20:31 |
| notmyname | KristianDK: that's all I got. sorry | 20:31 |
| KristianDK | No problem, it could be that I was lucky :) | 20:32 |
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| Mops_ | notmyname: any pointers of how many storage boxes per proxy to use? | 20:36 |
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| zykes- | what's the difference of nova-compute.conf and nova.conf ? | 20:49 |
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| annegentle | zykes-: the way it was explained to me is that you could do specific options for nova-compute service separate from the rest of nova if you want | 20:57 |
| annegentle | zykes-: mostly in practice, no one does | 20:57 |
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| bv | Hello... I would like to upgrade my production enviroment.. (QA first) anyway I would like to upgrade to 1.6.0, but I don't understand the procedure without having the .deb package, I tried using "python setup.py install" but doesn't create the user and who knows what other dependencies.. any help on this?? can't find any useful documentation | 21:05 |
| zykes- | so annegentle one usually uses nova.conf only or ? | 21:05 |
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| bv | btw, I am talking about swift-1.6.0 | 21:07 |
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| annegentle | zykes-: yes, typically people use nova.conf only, I don't know of the use case where people use nova-compute.conf plus a nova.conf | 21:08 |
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| atrius | anyone know any reason why openstack wouldn't work under Mint? | 22:10 |
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