Thursday, 2012-08-30

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hezekiah_nova show <ID> can take uuid or integer id or name00:23
hezekiah_but the rest api cannot00:23
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043579 in anvil "tests fail due to pycrypto not being upgraded" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104357900:25
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043583 in quantum "Ubuntu 12.04: must start quantum-dhcp-agent by hand" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104358300:50
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043584 in horizon "Keypair name lost after launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104358400:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043585 in nova "Flavor disabled status should not be shown by default" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104358501:01
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huaiaAny body here?01:22
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huaiaI want ask a question about tempest test for openstack on ubuntu server01:23
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huaiahello~???01:29
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bitbltdoes anyone have a good example of getting an auth token via API? the example in the docs does not work01:50
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csmalleyI heard about openstack and I'm hoping it's what I'm looking for.02:07
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csmalleyCan someone tell me what the Cloud Storage / Swift part does?02:08
csmalleyIs it for actually storing files?02:08
csmalleychucks02:09
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chucksanyone on line?02:09
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JoeJulianchucks: swift is an object store similar to s3. It's a restful standardized api to object (can be a file such as a vm image, jpeg, video, or a text file containing a json such as are used in various nosql implementations) and it's metadata.02:21
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chucksJoeJulian: thanks, but I have a couple more questions if you have time.02:22
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JoeJulianI have time, but I'm still learning myself so we'll see whether or not my answers are any good.02:22
chucksDoes swift provide redundancy?02:22
JoeJulianThe way I use it it does. I'm actually using the gluster-swift-proxy that uses GlusterFS as the backend.02:24
lifelesschucks: yes, it makes N copies of objects, where N is configurable02:24
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JoeJulianSee, stuff I didn't know yet. :D02:25
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chucksSo, I want to make a tons of files available to my website. I want something that's multinode also.02:29
chucksSo I can shutdown 1 of 5 nodes to do maintenance and stuff.02:29
chucksSounds a lot like elasticsearch.02:30
chuckslifeless: Am I correct?02:30
huaiasorry, does someone use tempest test for openstack on ubuntu server?02:30
lifelesschucks: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-object-storage.html may be useful for you02:33
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chucksthanks lifeless, there so much to read on the site, I really appreciate being pointed in the direction.02:34
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lifelesschucks: indeed!02:38
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troyahi all03:27
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troyaanyone here know about pinston ?03:31
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notmynamechucks: still around? I can give you all the info you want about swift04:11
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DaOmarNhello04:16
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DaOmarNi don't understand very well, how am authenticated glance with keystone?04:18
DaOmarNwhich credentials i have to use?04:19
DaOmarNthe credentials of the /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini?04:20
DaOmarNhelp me please!!04:20
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043630 in quantum "some policy check code for ports should be purged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104363004:42
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DaOmarNkeystone people help me whit glance05:13
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DaOmarN con you help me whit a little keystone-glance problem?06:10
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troyahi all06:39
troyaanyone here ?06:39
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JoeJulian447 total.06:39
AndyMillar446, at least one's a bot06:40
troyaHi JoeJulian06:40
troyaHi AndyMillar06:40
troyai try to install openstack essex on ubuntu 12.0406:41
troyai following instruction from http://stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html06:41
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troyawhen i input fixed range ip and float range ip i got error message like on http://pastebin.com/Pq9fJf3H06:41
troyacould you help me what is that error ? and what should i do to solve this ?06:42
AndyMillarwhat command did you run?06:42
troyai just execute shell script with contain like this http://pastebin.com/U9V8HN6H06:46
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troyai think if i read that script, i have execute >> nova-manage network create private --fixed_range_v4=$fixed_range --num_networks=1 --bridge=br100 --bridge_interface=eth1 --network_size=$fixed_size nova-manage floating create --ip_range=$floating_range06:47
troyawhere $fixed_range,fixed_size, etc is value which i input on form06:48
JoeJulianWith a valid mysql password, "1bM+7uQe6", in nova.conf I, not surprisingly, have to url encode it, "1bM%2b7uQe6" and it works fine. In glance-registry.conf it errors because ConfigParser is trying to expand the % symbol. Any idea what would cause the difference? I can't find anything obvious in the source.06:48
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troyaAnddyMillar. what do you think about it ?06:49
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troyaactually my host have ip 192.168.2.90 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.2.106:52
JoeJuliantroya: in that script, you never define "fixed_size" so that value will be missing on line 91.06:53
troyaok, i will input it manually with slice of command06:54
troyacould you tell me more about fixed size ? is it same as network size ?06:54
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JoeJulianI hope this doesn't come across as too harsh, but since you're trying to learn this you should read the script. line 91 should be a pretty obvious answer to that question. Try it out, break it, delete your mysql tables, do it again... It's a fun process. :D06:57
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troyathanks Joe, some minuts again i will back :D07:02
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043659 in openstack-community "Inconsistent behavior parsing sql_connection between glance-registry.conf vs nova.conf" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104365907:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043662 in glance "Inconsistent behavior parsing sql_connection between glance-registry.conf vs nova.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104366207:21
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troyaJoeJulian: i have ip address on my host 192.168.2.90, then i want to create fixed range ip 10.0.2.32/27, is it can make connection between that ip ?07:25
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troyahi Razique07:34
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troyaare you here ?07:34
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Raziquehey troya07:48
Razique:)07:48
Raziquedoing good07:48
Raziquewhat about you ?07:48
troyaRazique, i want to install openstack on single server, how i can do that ?07:49
troyais it can ?07:49
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Raziquehow do  you want to install it ?07:49
Raziquemanually or using a solution07:49
Raziquesuch a stackops ?07:49
troyano,07:49
troyai install it manually07:49
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troyai following instruction from http://stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html07:50
troyawhat do you think if my machine only have one network interface ?07:51
troyai think it's can, but how i can cheat it07:54
rpawliktroya: you may also want to take a look at this: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/private/openstack_software/07:55
troyahow about i create virtual eth such as eth0:1 ?07:56
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troyarpawlik: is it can running if i only have 1 network interface?08:00
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Raziquetroya yes you can08:06
troyaRazique: what do you talk about openstack, or rackspace private ?08:07
Raziqueboth actually08:07
troyahow to cheat on openstack installation ?08:07
Raziquechoosing the interface is only a matter of configuration08:07
troyafor example ?08:07
Raziquewell after the setup you should be able to tweak the configuration files08:07
Raziquewell within nova.conf mainly and into the database08:08
RaziqueI mean using nova-manage for the networks08:08
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Raziqueyou'll just have to use the same interface everywhere08:08
troyalike this >> sudo nova-manage network create private --fixed_range_v4=10.0.2.32/27 --num_networks=1 --bridge=br100 --bridge_interface=eth1 --network_size=2408:08
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troyaRazique: on nova.conf i found both of    --public_interface=eth0 --flat_interface=eth108:19
Raziqueyou will only use eth0 right ?08:19
troyaif i have only one network interface, so i should change both of them to eth0, isn't it08:19
troyaso i must change eth1 be eth0, right ?08:20
Raziqueyes exactly08:20
Raziquejust put eth0 everywhere08:20
Raziquebut if you do that post install08:20
Raziqueeither reboot everything08:20
Raziqueor tear down briges, kill dnsmasq/ nova service,s etc..08:21
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foexlemorning guys09:36
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kviiriUh oh, tomorrow is my last day of paid OpenStacking :)09:52
koolhead17kviiri: :P09:53
kviiriNow that I mentioned it09:53
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EKKmight as well join with my univ IRC client as well09:54
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amos_anyone 's  openstack f3 's network up and run ok?10:05
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EmilienMwith QuantumV2 ?10:08
EmilienMwhich plugin are you using ?10:08
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kviiriI have essex with Quantum, working10:09
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eagles0513875_hey guys I am wondering can i run open stack on the same server as where I am going ot be hosting vm's?10:10
amos_openvswitch10:10
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eagles0513875_amos_: ?10:11
eagles0513875_thing is i am not running openstack anywhere should i be running openstack to run openvswitch10:11
amos_and quantum v210:12
eagles0513875_amos_: is it possible to run all this off the same machine?10:12
EKKeagles0513875_: amos_ was replying to a previous user, not you10:12
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EKKeagles0513875_: You'll actually need to run Nova Compute on the server where you'll have the VMs10:13
EKKas far as I know10:13
eagles0513875_EKK: what about the dashboard and all that10:13
eagles0513875_can it run on the host where the vms will be running10:13
EKKI don't see why not10:13
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eagles0513875_EKK: ok might have to give it a shot10:15
eagles0513875_EKK: is there any documentation on how to setup nova and openstack on ubuntu 12.0410:16
EKKYes10:17
eagles0513875_cuz i already have ubuntu installed as the DC uses a network script to install and i sadly dont have a say as to what gets installed10:17
EKKeagles0513875_: http://docs.openstack.org/10:17
eagles0513875_EKK: question for you what is the difference between openstack and cloudstack10:17
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EKKeagles0513875_: well, they're two different products. I don't know much about CloudStack10:18
eagles0513875_all i know is that it was run by citrix and now an incubator project at apache not sure the exact difference10:19
eagles0513875_can open stack be used for cloud computing solutions10:19
EKKYes10:19
eagles0513875_ok kool :)10:20
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amos_use openVswitch to manage ifaces... and how to trace data flow like tcpdump?10:23
eagles0513875_first thing i need to do is setup the hypervisor im going ot be using correct?10:24
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eagles0513875_or will openstack ask me which hypervisor i want to use?10:24
Jules_hey guys10:24
EKKeagles0513875_: Configuration files10:27
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eagles0513875_EKK: you mean setup the networking via the appropriate hypervisor config files correct?10:27
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Jules_anybody ever had problems that the vm's not getting their dhcp ip? all i see in log is: dnsmasq-dhcp[5021]: DHCPDISCOVER(br100) fa:16:3e:xx:xx:xx no address available10:28
EKKeagles0513875_: I mean that the hypervisor used is specifid in the conf files10:28
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eagles0513875_ahh ok :) nice10:29
empirichi10:29
eagles0513875_hi empiric10:29
eagles0513875_then in that case time to reinstall my server10:29
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empiricguys i want to start with open stack how can i , i have vmware workstation i doenlosd ubuntu based openstack iso10:29
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eagles0513875_empiric: i have the perfect documentation for you as i am installing it directly on my dedicated10:30
empiriccan u share plz10:30
eagles0513875_empiric: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/10:30
empirici am assuming its like vmware esxi ,, the openstack iso10:31
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empiricand ill install it in vm and then launch multiple vms in it10:31
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eagles0513875_you cant virtualize something that is already virtualized though10:31
eagles0513875_correct me if you can anyone else10:31
EKKYou can run VMs in VMs, but at some point it'll get just silly10:32
eagles0513875_agreed10:33
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EKKA friend of mine did this on a less commercial scale - he had a VirtualBox, inside it he had a Linux Machine, on which he ran a Windows-only NES-emulator using WINE10:35
EKKPerformance wasn't exactly A+10:35
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043746 in quantum "lack of L3 support of ryu plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104374610:36
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empiriceagles0513875 i need to have all things nova ,swifT, glance in 1 one to test things or what is the design it should be seperate10:41
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myzHi everyone :)  When I use the command 'nova boot' there is a commandline option '---availability_zone-'. I woulder what is it good for?? and thanks in advance10:42
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Jules_anybody ever had problems that the vm's not getting their dhcp ip? all i see in log is: dnsmasq-dhcp[5021]: DHCPDISCOVER(br100) fa:16:3e:xx:xx:xx no address available?10:50
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eagles0513875_empiric: im setting up openstack on my host machine which will be running xen virtualization thenwill host the vms on the same machine10:52
empirichmmmmm10:54
empiricwhy xen10:54
empirici thin openstack is framewrk just like vmware ESXi10:54
bluenemomoin guys, i need a little help, i guess i set up the stuff correctly according to the ubuntu 12.04 pdf guide, however my syspanel is now giving me internal server error and apache error log says: No handlers could be found for logger "openstack_dashboard" what logfile can i look into to get more information about the application (dashboard)?10:55
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eagles0513875_empiric: xen is just another hypervisor10:55
eagles0513875_openstack: will work with guests on any hypervisor be it esxi xen kvm etc10:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043758 in keystone "RBAC policy definition is not utilized by default (policy.json)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104375811:06
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empiricguys how can i start with openstack11:11
empiricany idea11:11
empirici am confused i downlaod openstack iso11:11
koolhead17empiric: what is confusing you?11:11
empiricand i am trying to install in it vm inside vmware worksration but it hangs11:11
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empiricwht is openstack i paltform just like vmware ESXI an OS that need to be install on server itself then all are controlled by vcenter and create vms inside that ESXi hosts11:12
empiricthrough vcenter11:12
empirichow open stack works11:13
empiricsimilar?11:13
koolhead17empiric: where you able to get any documentation about openstack ?11:13
empiricyes reading http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/Functions_and_Features-d1e132.html11:14
koolhead17empiric: cool. spend some time, finish the doc and then proceed for deployment.11:15
koolhead17it will make everything less painful :P11:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043760 in cinder "Service does not start if volumes exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104376011:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043764 in nova "RPC timeout when trying to delete VM on FlatDHCP multi host setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104376411:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043765 in nova "Quota reservation not rolled back if security group create fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104376511:26
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empirickoolhead17 from where i start11:45
EKKempiric: Reading the docs is a good start11:46
koolhead17empiric: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/what-is-openstack.html11:46
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kviiriI think I should part with this client now, annoying to get the same chat in two different windows :)11:49
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NuxRoHello, for how long is openstack supported for security issues?11:53
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043779 in cinder "Snapshot in error state stays in 'deleting' status " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104377912:01
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noob2morning everyone!  i need a hand with debugging why my vnc console is broken.12:11
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noob2http://paste.openstack.org/show/20578/ is what i see in the logs12:11
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noob2it just times out when i try to connect12:12
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noob2the server it's trying to connect to is listening properly12:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043793 in tempest "Quantum tests do not target v2.0 api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104379312:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043796 in nova "Number of ARPs sent for floating IP assignment needs to be configurable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104379612:45
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annegentleempiric: still around? If it's the Rackspace ISO I never could get it to work within a VM on my Mac, it's intended for real hardware. That said, here are specific instructions that are tested http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/installing-rackspace-private-cloud-vmware-fusion12:55
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043827 in nova "quantum allocate_for_instance() returns non-related subnet info for a port on a network without subnet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104382713:31
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EKKhttp://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Guest_won%27t_start_-_warning:_could_not_open_/dev/net/tun_%28%27generic_ethernet%27_interface%2913:37
EKK"Since each of these steps is significantly decreasing security protections of the host against qemu guest domains, you should only do it if there is no alternative to using <interface type='ethernet'> "13:37
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EKKWhat types of security threats will these modifications cause? Could someone summarize?13:37
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Raziquehi guys!13:44
RaziqueI have the hard time using the multi_host mode13:44
Raziquethe instance is not reachable from another server the one it's running on13:44
Razique(via its floating ip13:44
Razique(vlan mode btw - vlan works  well when I'm not using the multi_host mode)13:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #1033934 in horizon "Attempting to change regions in the dashboard does not display correctly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103393413:46
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zhuxuegangany good idear to learn and test openvswitch...?14:14
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GMIRazique: can you provide more info? is traffic reaching the compute node where the floating IP is bound? security-groups are ok?14:18
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RaziqueHi GMI : yes secgroup is good (tcp + icmp)14:19
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Raziqueand the floating ip get assigned to the instance, from the node that last is reachable14:19
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Raziquein fact, more weird, when I delete the pre-routing rule, the floating ip is reachable from another node14:19
GMIRazique: how about a tcpdump on the compute node when you ping the floating ip from outside? is the traffic reaching the compute node at all?14:20
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Raziquenow when the pre-routing rule is created (floating ip to the instance) it gets unreachable14:20
RaziqueGMI it does14:20
Raziquetcdpump shows the packet14:21
Raziquebut somehow the routing seems uncorrect14:21
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Raziquethere is not any return packet, explaining why instances are not reachable from another node14:21
GMIRazique: how about a tcpdump from inside the instance?14:22
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RaziqueGMI : unfortunately I can't, since the instance doesn't have tcpdump installed14:23
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Raziqueand since it cannot reach the outside14:23
Raziquei'll try another image14:23
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GMIRazique: so the instance cannot even reach outside? does it have an IP address and its gateway is the bridge's IP address? does it have an ARP for it?14:25
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043861 in nova "Pause/Unpause instance should generate a notification in "notification.info"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104386114:26
RaziqueGMI yes it does have all the parameters (ip and gateway being the one dnsmasq hold for that vlan)14:26
Raziqueand it can ping the gateway14:26
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032633 in keystone "Keystone's token table grows unconditionally when using SQL backend." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103263314:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #1039077 in horizon/essex "open redirect / phishing attack via "next" parameter" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103907714:27
RaziqueGMI I recall a mail I saw on the ML regarding a guy who had to delete the default route on the node14:27
Raziqueah there14:28
Raziquehttp://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg13788.html14:28
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bluenemothere was a way to get the user-id via keystone user-list only, without the --- stuff around it (for scripting) via python -c something. how was that again :) ?14:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #1040626 in keystone/essex "Update user's default tenant partially succeeds without authz" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104062614:31
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Raziquemmmm no lucj14:31
Raziqueluck14:31
GMIRazique: can the compute node reach the Internet?14:33
Raziqueyes :)14:33
Raziquewhat kills me is once both pre/post routing rules are created14:35
Raziquethen the floating ip is not reachable14:35
Raziquewhen it's up and assigned to the compute node without the iptables rules, it's working14:35
Raziqueand when I ssh to the instance from the node using the floating ip, it's also working14:36
Raziquevery confusing :D14:36
Raziquei'll check the routing table on the node14:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043874 in devstack "http://devstack.org/stack.sh.html unreadable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104387414:41
bluenemohow can i list the user-id of say 'admin' ONLY so i can script with it? like keystone user-list only that i can specify what i want exactly14:43
Raziquebluenemo : what do you mean ?14:43
Raziquelike having only 'admin' output ?14:43
bluenemofor example Razique i have for keystone user-list one row of: | 58e78c3eae394265a047072b3f6b699b | True    | admin@foobar.com  | admin, however i want it to ONLY show the id so that i can use that for scripts. i want something like keystone user-list --name admin14:44
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bluenemoi would not have a problem with python -c "something" but my python is not exactly good and i need a first working hint; if possible :)14:46
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Raziquebluenemo = $ keystone user-get $admin_id14:47
Raziqueotherwise, dirty way via a sql query14:48
Raziqueselect id from user where name ="admin"14:48
Raziquedirtier way  : keystone user-list | grep admin | cut -f 2 -d " "14:50
bluenemoyesterday some guy posted me a python -c "some strange stuff" command, basicly a small python script that actually was supposed to give only the id, i'm sure its possible, however i destroyed my apt dependencies old school a few hours ago and re setup my testing machine, so i've sadly lost it :/ i thought about sql query as well but i think its a bit hacky14:50
bluenemoyeah or that :/14:50
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bluenemomaybe an idea for future implementations of keystone ;) not meant offensive, i love openstack as far as i've worked with it :014:51
bluenemo:)14:51
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Raziquebluenemo : that's an excellent suggestion14:55
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RaziqueI quickly looked for such, but looks like there is not any official way to retrieve the ID14:56
bluenemoi'd love to implement it but my python is basicly not present m) i think especially for automated setup scripts (as i'm currenlty writing one in bash) that would be quite awesome14:56
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Raziquenow that we think of that, keystone cli does perform query to the database for such info - so it's no biggy to query it directly I'd say14:56
bluenemoi thought so too yes.14:57
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bluenemoanother question besides; do you prefer to get openstack in production usage from apt in debian / ubuntu or do you prefer to compile the latest stable?14:57
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vachonbluenemo: apt14:58
vachoneasier rolling upgrades14:59
Raziquewhat vachon said :)14:59
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bluenemodo you use ubuntu 12 or debian stable?15:00
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vachondebian stable is too old15:00
vachonyou would have to use debian testing15:00
bluenemoproblem with debian is that its so dam old :/ i'm currently testing around on ubuntu 12 but i'm near tears when i think that i'd have to use it for production stuff..15:00
vachonand the overall problem with debian is, they are packaging essex for testing15:00
bluenemoah m(15:00
vachonby the time its out, you will be 2 releases behind15:00
bluenemoyes15:00
bluenemoi know the feeling ;)15:00
vachongo with 12.04, but that being said, what the hell out for bonding + 12.04 guests15:01
vachonso very broken right now15:01
bluenemosry i dont get all after what the hell :D15:01
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bluenemoyou mean the 12.04 version one gets via apt is not stable?15:02
vachonits stable15:02
vachonbut DO NOT run 12.04 as your guest15:02
vachon10.04LTS is the only stable ubuntu guest right now15:02
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vachon12.04 is a fine bare metal host15:03
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bluenemoah ok. may i ask why? isnt it (veeeeery basicly) just kvm some-12-image.iso or so..?15:03
vachonits a QEMU bug15:03
bluenemoor what more exactly is the problem?15:03
bluenemothat you cant run 12 on 12?15:04
vachonthey are basically faking out the dhcp checksum and its not working15:04
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vachonthere is appa unstable fix, but its only been out a week, needs at least 3 before ill touch it15:04
Raziquewhat's wrong about using ubuntu 12.04 in production15:04
bluenemoah ok i c. strange. i just did a heavy remaster of the 12.04 iso with heavy testing usage of kvm, never had the issue15:04
vachon*a ppa15:04
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bluenemohowever i'll only host debian stable so no problem fo rme :)15:04
vachonRazique: nothing as long as you have less than 2 mbit worth of traffic to your guests at all times15:04
vachonyup, no issues there15:04
bluenemoRazique, ubuntu scares me ;) i'm an ooold debianer ;)15:05
Raziquevachon haha :p15:05
vachonRazique: install casssandra, run stress.py15:05
vachonwatch the instances just stop responding15:05
vachonits that reproducable15:05
bluenemohehe ;)15:05
Raziquevachon :D15:05
RaziqueI had as issues with Debian as I had with Ubuntu15:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043884 in cinder "potential bugs found by pylint" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104388415:06
RaziqueI think frankly both are quite good OS15:06
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bluenemoRazique, yes totally. but i dont like the newest in production (not always..)15:06
vachonthey both are, but the QEMU team are IDIOTS for doing what they did15:06
RaziqueI'm not pro OS actually15:06
Raziqueas long as it does the job you know :)15:06
Raziquevachon : now this is one another debate, but yes, I know what you mean15:07
Raziquelet's say "dev streams" are not the same when it comes to OS15:07
bluenemoyes. you are right. when you take a minimal linux distri and keep it minimal, its basicly the same. even though, i can sleep way better at night with debian running my stuff ;) it just doesnt disappoint me. dont have that trust in ubuntu..15:07
Raziquebut lot of politics often involved I think15:07
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vachonyea, it was a dumb patch to a non-existant problem15:07
bluenemonext thing that is very important to me if i use sth a lot: the irc. i think #ubuntu is one of the worst channels.. compared to #debian on OFTC, only noob questions and mostly only noob or no answers. i dont like that.15:07
vachonand now its dependant on them removing it, or isc releasing sometime in the next year15:08
vachonwhich isnt isc's release cycle15:08
Raziquebluenemo : the counterpart being you have more ressources on the net15:08
bluenemo?15:08
Raziquevachon : I second taht15:08
Raziquebluenemo I mean there are plethora ressources on ubuntu on the net15:08
RaziqueI slept with google more than once15:09
bluenemoah. hm. well i've actually never noticed ;)15:09
bluenemorofl :D15:09
Raziqueso it's not that biggy if the Ubuntu IRC doesn't suit you :)15:09
Raziquevachon : thanks for the stress.py good ressource to try15:09
bluenemowell yeah but i just prefer irc.. i of course google at least 5 min before i ask.. but if so i much more like to emediately see professional admins answering.. thats VERY often the case in #debian.. not so in ubuntu imho15:10
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Raziqueok - I don't know I never use IRC appart OPS one ^^15:10
bluenemothis channel for example is a nice example for a working chan :)15:10
bluenemoOPS one?15:10
vachonthat being said15:11
Raziquethat one15:11
RaziqueOpenStack ^^15:11
bluenemoah lol ;)15:11
vachonthe openstack-operators mailing list is faaaaanntastic15:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043886 in nova "Firewall rules are not updated if you restart nova-compute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104388615:11
vachonbest list ever15:11
bluenemoi'm using it quite a lot, i'm in every chan of projects i use in production15:11
bluenemoquite handy imho :)15:11
vachoni am too, sadly, im getting to expert instead of beginner in everything, so i answer now15:11
vachonand people expect my presense15:12
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Raziquevachon : haha15:12
RaziqueThat's good then15:13
Raziqueknowledge is like money - never good to keep it in the pocket15:13
vachonwell it got me a book deal15:13
vachonim not arguing15:13
bluenemohehe :) well thats good isnt it? i also like answering, helps you keep stuff in mind and rethink. if i get a good answer in a chan and i have time and the needed knowledge, i often try to answer 3 back15:13
bluenemovachon, what kind of book?15:13
p3n74D4v1dmy nova-manage service doesn't show any service just empty "table"15:13
RaziqueI mostly focus on writing the official doc15:13
p3n74D4v1dand the log files don't show any error15:14
vachonkickstarter for sysadmins on puppet15:14
Raziquevachon : that's fantastic :)15:14
p3n74D4v1dwhat could be the issue15:14
vachonp3n74D4v1d: rabbit-mq?15:14
vachonanything in your services table in mysql15:14
p3n74D4v1dnothing15:14
p3n74D4v1dthe table is empty15:14
bluenemoRazique, cool. i'm flying over the ubuntu guide, its so dam well written! thank you very much!15:14
p3n74D4v1dand rabbit-mq is started15:15
Raziquebluenemo : the ubuntu guide has been written by CSSCorp guys15:15
Raziqueyah they did an outstanding job for that15:15
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bluenemoah ok. just btw are there already any complete - test setup scripts for ubuntu 12? like install.sh and then one can access the syspanel?15:15
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p3n74D4v1dvachon : any idea15:17
p3n74D4v1d?15:17
vachonnot really, sql connections come to mind15:18
vachonsomething cant talk15:18
Raziquetime to go home15:18
p3n74D4v1dthe point is the log files don't show any error15:18
Raziquecya guys :)15:18
p3n74D4v1dc ya15:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043905 in nova "instance fails to terminate (XAPI)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104390515:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043906 in python-novaclient "Doc string and string formatting errors on floating ip" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104390615:51
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yocumI have a question - what's the dhcpbridge_flagfile and why, in some installations, I see that it's set to /etc/nova/nova.conf and in others I see it set to /etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf16:04
yocumI mean, it's an option set *in* nova.conf, so why would it reference itself?16:04
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myzyocum: Join my voice to you :)16:05
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yocummyz: heh.  pretty soon we'll have a  dhcpbridge_flagfile revolution on our hands.16:07
myzyocum: LOL16:08
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myzyocum: I've another thing in my mind regarding nova configuration; The normal installation of nova would be a controller + many compute nodes16:10
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yocummyz: revolutions have been started over less, I'm sure.  To wit: big-endian vs. little-endian.16:11
yocummyz: well, unless you just wanted to get an idea of how it works and you only have 1 machine...16:11
yocumbut, yes, a normal production system will have a controller and a number of compute nodes16:11
myzyocum: Why aren't the configuration files of the controller and the compute nodes diffrentiated??16:12
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myzyocum: I mean, in the tutorials they says, write the configuration file and copy it along your compute nodes!! and in the mean time, there is a configuration file called nova-compute.conf on the compute nodes!!16:13
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yocummyz: it's supposed to make it easy.  I'll be honest - I haven't looked at the format of the nova-compute.conf file, yet.  I'm hung up on networking, in general.  I am not an expert on OpenStack.16:15
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yocummyz: however, on LVS and heartbeat systems, the config files MUST be the same between the primary and secondary nodes16:15
myzyocum: Ok, what is your problem in networking, may be I can help16:15
yocumto make sure that everyone knows who is who16:16
yocummyz: I think I've got it figured out, I'm just wading through the conf files, now.16:16
myzyocum: Yes, may be that is the reason, you are right16:16
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yocumI'm doing option #1 from this page, basically: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html16:16
yocumI come from OpenNebula-land, where the network bridges need to be set up manually before OpenNebula gets installed.  That threw me for a loop16:17
yocum'cause apparently OpenStack doesn't want that16:17
yocumOpenNebula's networking is far simpler than OpenStack.16:18
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yocumOpenNebula doesn't have this concept of separated traffic and an internal network between the VMs16:18
myzIn the controller node you should create the bridge br100 'or what ever you like it to be' manually16:19
myzbut in te compute node it will start automatically16:19
yocumhm, that's not what derekh is telling me...16:19
yocumhe says that all physical systems shouldn't have any bridge devices configured, and to let OpenStack manage them all16:20
vachonyocum++16:20
vachoneverything should be setup, but IP'less16:21
vachonexcept your "admin" net16:21
myzYes, but in case the controller restarted, the bridge will not start automatically16:21
vachonmyz: never seen that, but then again, i don't run nova-network on the controller16:21
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vachonno need to16:21
myzvachon: How your setup is done16:22
vachon2 "backends/controllers", 5 computs16:22
yocumvachon: how do the VM images get from glance (on my controller) to the compute nodes, then?16:22
vachonthey go over the "admin" net16:22
vachonnot the VM net16:22
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vachonso my contoller is 192.168.1.1016:23
vachona compute could be 192.168.1.1116:23
yocumoh, so not over the openstack, internal network...16:23
vachonthats how it talks to flance16:23
vachonyes16:23
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yocumah16:23
vachonsay way it talks to mysql or rabbitmq16:23
vachon*same16:23
yocumvachon: so, here's the next question - I have also have a public network, and I want users to be able to get to the dashboard from the public network.16:24
vachonfirewalls are your friend16:24
yocumwould I set up the public nic to be on a bridge device or on the physical device (eth0)?16:24
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yocumi.e., I want that public IP to come up when the system reboots...16:25
myzvachon: You have two controllers in the backend; what openstack components each one of them have??16:26
vachonyocum: eth016:26
vachonbut i would put a hardware firewall in front16:26
vachonand NAT16:26
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vachonmyz: one runs most of the things, the other is a mysql slave and volumes manager16:26
vachonwhich uses san.py to hand out stuff form my san16:27
vachonlunch, bbl16:27
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myzvachon: what about nova-network, where is it installed??16:27
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stackingnoob question but can someone explain what ephemeral disk is used for?16:28
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yocumstacking: scratch disk, you can attach it to a VM then take it away.  It won't be there the next time you reboot the VM.16:29
yocumstacking: or, rather, the data won't be there the next time you reboot16:30
stackingyocum:ohhh doy that makes alot of sense thanks16:30
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yocumstacking: np.16:31
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yocummyz: nova-network will only be on the compute nodes16:31
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myzyocum: Have you practised any solution related to failover scenarios to the cloud controller?? I mean if that controller failed, everything in the cloud is meaningless16:33
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yocummyz: no, not yet.16:37
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yocumI think it would be pretty simple to set up, though.  Use mysql multi-master replication for the DB and either have LVS in front of a set of controller nodes, or have an active-passive (heartbeat) set up.16:38
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myzyocum: I recommend you to have a look at pacemaker16:39
myzyocum: It is a great clustering tool16:40
yocumI am old skool16:40
yocum;-)16:40
myzyocum: Is Openstack capable to be public service, like service provider, or it is not there yet?16:40
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yocummyz: good grief, I hope it's capable, but I don't completely know.16:52
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GMIstacking: actually, ephemeral disk are lost only when you terminate the instance, rebooting the instance doesn't make you loose that data stored on the ephemeral disk attached, but the root disk and any additional ephemeral disks are usually located on the compute node and not guarranteed to survive failure (cheap hardware, possible without RAID, etc)16:52
yocummyz: I'm making our available to our people via the public IPs, but not to the world at large.16:53
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myzyocum: Who do You refer to by 'our people'?16:54
stackingGMI: ahh so rebooting inside the os of the instance won't cause loss the ephemeral disks to be lost.  Yeah I'm going to setup raid most in the future right now I'm just creating custom images.16:55
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stackingGMI: thanks for the clarification16:55
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GMIstacking: welcome16:56
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Ish_Hello friends , I want to know in which language can we contribute to OpenStack ?17:04
bluenemook i resetup from scratch but i cant get rid of No handlers could be found for logger "openstack_dashboard" in apache2 error log :(17:04
yocummyz: our internal developers and sales people doing on-site sales demos...17:05
yocumIsh_: COBOL.17:05
yocumIsh_: I kid!17:05
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Ish_Is there any work on C++  ?17:05
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Ish_yocum , is there any work on c++  ?17:07
yocummyz: I work on the OpenShift team at Red Hat.17:07
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Ish_great17:08
yocumIsh_: I don't know - I was being funny.  ;-)  I was going to follow up with a suggestion to translate the docs into Icelandic, too.  ;-)17:08
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Ish_:P17:08
yocumhehehe17:08
yocumIsh_: the best thing to do is just download the source and dig in.17:09
yocumsee if there's anything that piques your interest17:09
Ish_okay17:09
Ish_sure !17:09
Ish_Right now I don't know much about Openstack17:09
yocumIsh_: and seriously, if you want to work on documentation, I'm sure just about everyone here would love that!17:09
yocumI know I would17:10
Ish_I would like to code !17:10
Ish_<yocum> which language do you work upon ?17:12
yocumIsh_: I'm a systems guy, not a developer.  I avoid programming as much as possible.  bash, ruby, perl, python, in that order.17:13
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Ish_okay17:13
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Ish_Nice talking to you yocum , I have to leave now  , bbye !17:14
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stackingyocum: have you made any custom images?17:18
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myzstacking: You can download AWS image, run it on a KVM server, install what ever applications you like, then upload the image back to glance17:23
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stackingmyz: Thanks, I think we will try that as creating the custom image for linux is driving us crazy three days we've been at it finally tried windows server yesterday got it to work first try17:24
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myzstacking: Good job :)17:25
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Sloweris it possible to add an existing user to another tenant (and have multiple tenants per user) in keystone?18:03
SlowerI see in the db it appears possible but I can't find the option using the command line tool18:03
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043952 in cinder "Invalid GB computation in bootable volume" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104395218:06
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GMISlower: you can give a user the desired role in more than one tenant18:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #1043980 in tempest "Quantum smoke tests do not target running VMs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104398018:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043935 in openstack-manuals "Document template substitution in config file values" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104393518:12
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1043999 in nova "nova usage-list returns  wrong usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104399918:51
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Dwight_K_SchruteCan anyone here take a look at my instance logs? I just installed StackOps and launched a few instances, but they are unable to reach the internet, and I am unable to ssh or ping to them. I have created seclists and allowed both protocols from all IPs and I have ran nova list and all instances seem to have the correct IPs.19:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044004 in nova "zmq RPC driver errors: AttributeError: 'Context' object has no attribute 'destroy'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104400419:01
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044008 in nova "Incorrect image metadata sent in notification on rebuild" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104400819:05
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SlowerGMI: ok cool thx!19:07
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044027 in horizon "VM shutoff status should not have a in-progress bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104402719:31
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stackingAnyone used preinstalled images from UEC am I understanding this wrong.  I download the tar.gz then untar and then add the .img file to glance and then I should be able to create an instance? Correct?19:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #1044032 in keystone "Trying to auth with a bad request reply with a KeyError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104403219:46
kbringardstacking: you need to add the kernel and ramdisk as well19:47
kbringardthen either set the kernel and ramdisk as the default for the image, or specify —kernel_id and —ramdisk_id in euca when you launch the image19:47
stackingkbringard: I will give that a try thanks19:48
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yocumstacking: I've made tons of custom VMs in my day.  Nothing specific for OpenStack though.  As long as it's a qcow2 image, it should work.  Just use virt-manager or virt-install.19:57
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kbringardyea, if you build your own with /boot in the image you won't need to "link" it to a kernel/ramdisk19:58
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kbringardbut the images from uec don't have /boot in the base image, iirc19:58
stackingyocum: I think that was my first mistake I used raw.  I followed the directions word for word though http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-a-linux-image.html19:58
yocumstacking: what OS/distro?19:59
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stackingI used the ubuntu 12.04 server19:59
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stackingprecise19:59
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stackingexactly as they detailed in the document for creating a linux image19:59
yocumstacking: hm.  my background is specifically Red Hat.20:00
stackingit installs fine but then when I relaunch it says there is no boot20:00
yocumah, could be a partitioning problem20:00
stackingThe document says create a single partition mounted on /20:00
stackingYeah I think the problem is partitioning I must be dummying up somewhere20:01
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yocumtry to mount it manually20:01
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yocumlosetup and all that20:01
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yocumstacking: or you could come over to Red Hat.  :-D20:02
yocumuse Fedora20:02
stackinglol well Fedora /Cent Os is on my list20:02
stackingthat is my next challenge after ubuntu20:02
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stackingyocum: The openstack cluster is being used at a college as a learning platform for cloud computing so we are creating images of each major distribution20:03
stackingyocum: I'll go do the manual mounting20:04
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Dwight_K_SchruteAnyone here successfully deployed a StackOps installation?20:09
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rnirmalanyone have any ideas why auto_disk_config is failing with xenapi http://paste.openstack.org/show/C5RYM2FS5CoSRgU0kjrh/20:24
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rnirmalthis is with Essex and I have the glance image set as auto_disk_config=1 to resize the filesystem on instances startup20:25
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stackingwhat is a bucket? and how do I figure out what the name of my bucket is ?20:39
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stackingI see it associated with amazon secret key but I don't think I have one since our openstack isn't connected to amazon20:40
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stackingsince it is storage based perhaps I created a bucket with swift20:41
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nightcrawler786is it possible to have a read only dashboard user? If so could someone point me in the right direction20:57
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Ryan_Laneis there any reason that my services are constantly available and unavailable?21:19
Ryan_Lanefrom nova-manage service list's perspective?21:19
Ryan_Laneoccasionally all of my compute nodes will show as down for a short period of time and it causes instance creation to fail21:20
Ryan_Laneit's driving me insane21:20
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Ryan_Laneis there a checkin-timeout or something that I don't have properly set?21:20
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nightcrawler786is it possible to have a read only dashboard user?21:26
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044083 in quantum "rootwrap filter for ip netns exec" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104408322:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #1044084 in quantum "devstack support for quantum rootwrap" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104408422:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044085 in quantum "automated test to detect missing rootwrap filters" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104408522:21
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044090 in nova "cleaning up an LXC instance fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104409022:26
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044103 in nova "need instanceId, instanceName and auto_assigned in the payload of _associate_floating_ip() " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104410322:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044108 in nova "floating_ip_get_by_address() should return a valid ip that "deleted" is False" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104410823:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044113 in quantum "mangle network namespace used for dhcp " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104411323:26
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044119 in glance "glance-control <service> reload prints traceback" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104411923:46
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044127 in glance "v2 api displays deleted image properties" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104412723:56
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