| QRPIKE | quick question, does the management node have to be connected to public and private network, or just the private network? | 00:01 |
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| Diopter | QRPIKE: Can't see how it would *have* to be on the public. | 00:26 |
| QRPIKE | Just wanted to make sure, trying to separate it from the compute nodes, but it only has 1 NIC | 00:26 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: Though, depends on where you have things bind... and what you meant by 'private' | 00:27 |
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| Diopter | If by private you meant Nova Fixed (VM) network... | 00:27 |
| QRPIKE | I have 2 routers, 1 pub one private | 00:27 |
| Diopter | Probably not so much. | 00:27 |
| Diopter | Sure. | 00:27 |
| Diopter | But are your VMs on one of those networks? Or are they on a third network? | 00:28 |
| QRPIKE | so all compute nodes are connected to both of them, 2 NICS, but the management node only has 1 NIC | 00:28 |
| QRPIKE | they are on those networks | 00:28 |
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| Diopter | Welp. Suppose it depends on your routing and where services are bound | 00:29 |
| Diopter | But it might work out. | 00:29 |
| QRPIKE | k, I will give it a shot | 00:30 |
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| QRPIKE | all communication between management nodes and compute nodes should be on the private network yes? | 01:14 |
| Diopter | Should be on *a* private network, yes. Most people separate their VM net from their management net from their public net... | 01:17 |
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| Diopter | But of course some of the APIs are likely to be exposed publically | 01:18 |
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| dc | ok so this is interesting | 02:01 |
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| wolfric | where should i make a suggestion for additions/changes to the guides on the website? | 02:34 |
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| Diopter | wolfric: Disqus comments on the relevant pages? | 02:35 |
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| wolfric | Diopter: ok cheers, forgot about the web page, i was viewing the pdf | 02:39 |
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| Diopter | :) | 02:40 |
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| wolfric | so devstack does this all automatically but it's said to be unsuitable for production enviroments, is there something inbetween that can automate some of the stuff. Like this for example seems like it should be automated http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html | 02:42 |
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| Diopter | Inbetween devstack and...? Something like a chef deployment? | 02:45 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033352 in devstack "devstack doesn't support quantum ryu plugin and dhcp agent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033352 | 03:01 |
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| QRPIKE | I restarted my host machine, and when I ping google i get: "ping: unknown host google.com" I didn't change any network interfaces or anything. Any ideas | 05:25 |
| kviiri | Does it have an IP address? | 05:26 |
| Diopter | That's a DNS failure. Check /etc/resolv.conf, first | 05:26 |
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| QRPIKE | # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) | 05:27 |
| QRPIKE | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN | 05:27 |
| QRPIKE | does not have any entries | 05:27 |
| Diopter | DHCP issue, ostensibly. | 05:27 |
| Diopter | Or static setup, if you're using static IPs. | 05:28 |
| QRPIKE | static | 05:28 |
| Diopter | Might be a link error, which might prevent the network scripts from bringint the interface all the way up | 05:28 |
| QRPIKE | which error log would i look in? | 05:28 |
| Diopter | Erm... depends on your system. First step is see if your interface has a link and IP | 05:29 |
| QRPIKE | it does, and i can ping other devices on the network | 05:30 |
| Diopter | Sorry... afk a bit, Mars landing | 05:30 |
| QRPIKE | np | 05:30 |
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| Diopter | Touchdown confirmed! Badass landing system | 05:33 |
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| QRPIKE | ya that was SICK | 05:42 |
| Diopter | Can haz Mars :D | 05:42 |
| QRPIKE | so awesome they did a live ustream | 05:42 |
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| QRPIKE | hey Diopter, any idea on that DNS issue? | 06:01 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: What's the host OS? | 06:01 |
| QRPIKE | ubuntu 12.04 | 06:02 |
| QRPIKE | 2 nice, 1 private switch, 1 public switch | 06:02 |
| QRPIKE | it can ping any device on both switches, it just can't ping outside | 06:02 |
| Diopter | What about ping 8.8.8.8? | 06:03 |
| QRPIKE | nope | 06:03 |
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| QRPIKE | i have the gateway set in network/interfaces | 06:04 |
| Diopter | ip a; ip r | 06:04 |
| Diopter | Make sure your public nic has the right public IP/cidr, and that your default route goes to the public gateway IP | 06:04 |
| QRPIKE | default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth1 metric 100 | 06:05 |
| QRPIKE | which is the private network | 06:05 |
| QRPIKE | which isn't right | 06:05 |
| Diopter | Well that'd explain your issue. | 06:05 |
| Diopter | I presume you have a "gateway" item in /etc/network/interfaces for Both interfaces | 06:06 |
| QRPIKE | yes | 06:06 |
| Diopter | And your private interface comes after your public? | 06:06 |
| QRPIKE | remove the private? | 06:06 |
| Diopter | Right | 06:06 |
| QRPIKE | yes sir | 06:06 |
| QRPIKE | ur amazing, once again | 06:06 |
| Diopter | lolz. I just do this all day every day, on these systems no less. Once you have to scour around to figure something out, you don't forget it. | 06:07 |
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| Diopter | Sysadminning is just years of scouring :P | 06:07 |
| QRPIKE | haha I haven't been able to stump you yet | 06:07 |
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| Diopter | hehe | 06:08 |
| Diopter | You can swap out your default route without much trouble, too, if you like | 06:09 |
| Diopter | ip r r default via x.x.x.x | 06:09 |
| Diopter | Can toss in the: dev eth0 metric 100, if you feel enterprising about routing metrics | 06:09 |
| QRPIKE | hmm | 06:10 |
| QRPIKE | how do u delete a default, i just entered 2 | 06:10 |
| QRPIKE | default via 10.0.1.1 dev eth0 | 06:11 |
| QRPIKE | default via 10.0.1.1 dev eth0 metric 100 | 06:11 |
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| Diopter | ip r d <route> | 06:11 |
| Diopter | Just specify it exactly. | 06:11 |
| Diopter | You can also flush only default routes, if you want | 06:11 |
| QRPIKE | whats that command? | 06:12 |
| Diopter | ip r f exact 0.0.0.0/0 | 06:12 |
| Diopter | route flush exact <prefix> | 06:12 |
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| QRPIKE | just a off topic question, do u prefer mac or PC - obviously besides linux | 06:14 |
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| kviiri | I use Linux for pretty much everything, but I have a PC with Windows 7 at home just in case I'll ever need to use a Windows-only application... Mac wouldn't be of much value to me | 06:15 |
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| Diopter | Well, I work on open source for a living currently, and my job entails knowing and working on deep fiddly bits of Linux, so if "PC" = Windows, it's basically useless to me these days. | 06:16 |
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| cryptk | my job offers both PC (windows) and Mac laptops to employees, I chose the PC one and promptly replaced windows with linux ;) | 06:16 |
| cryptk | Mac also is of no use to me | 06:16 |
| Diopter | Macs are a lot more useful, and lots of my coworkers use them. I go back and forth between having OSX on this MBP vs having Linux on it. | 06:16 |
| QRPIKE | interesting | 06:17 |
| Diopter | OSX handles the power management and some of the hardware (Bluetooth, WiFi) better, of course, so it's a tossup. | 06:17 |
| cryptk | and my home system runs Linux, as do all of my servers... I have a windows install on the home PC for a few games, but that's all | 06:17 |
| Diopter | Almost all of my work is coding and VMs in fullscreen terminals, and I can do virt-in-virt on Fusion as easily as KVM, so... | 06:17 |
| Diopter | The only area OSX blows in comparison is networking tools. | 06:18 |
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| Diopter | ifconfig, route, netstat and pf aren't really in the same league as iproute2, iptables, ebtables, ss | 06:18 |
| kviiri | Yeah, my Windows machine is also nominally a gaming machine, but since I don't like wasting my time playing games, it's not used much | 06:18 |
| QRPIKE | haha kviiri i know what u mean | 06:19 |
| Diopter | Before I started working on Openstack, I was doing purely Linux networking infra | 06:19 |
| QRPIKE | i wasted too many years of my life on MMORPG's | 06:19 |
| Diopter | So I had 5 monitors and ran xmonad across them exclusively | 06:19 |
| Diopter | Because a few dozen tiled terminals = winning | 06:20 |
| QRPIKE | thats awesome | 06:20 |
| Diopter | Now I have a single machine/monitor with 16GB of RAM and SSDs in it, so I don't care as much about the OS, since I'm mostly in a single fullscreen terminal :P | 06:20 |
| QRPIKE | I'm just getting into sysadmin type stuff, and I used to hate terminal, now i freakin love it | 06:20 |
| kviiri | I used to play a MUD, but it's status as a "waste of time" is paradoxical... wasting so much time with it made me realize how much time I was wasting with video games and thus the MUD wasn't quite a waste of time after all... | 06:20 |
| Diopter | kviiri: Sounds like you leveled up. Now you need to Make a MUD, because that's the obvious next step, since you could make yours so much better to play, and save time, and.... | 06:21 |
| Diopter | See you in a few years :P | 06:21 |
| kviiri | Indeed, I'd much prefer making games than playing them | 06:22 |
| QRPIKE | lol | 06:22 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: uhm, did you just say that iptables is superior to pf or did I mis-read you? | 06:22 |
| Diopter | PiotrSikora: I did indeed. It did not used to be, and I'm not trying to espouse a flamey religious position. | 06:22 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: yeah, I'm not looking for a flame either :) I was just so shocked by this that I had to double-check it :P | 06:23 |
| Diopter | PiotrSikora: But these days, netfilter provides hooks into the routing engine, bridging engine, encompasses L2, 3 and 4, VLANs, tunnels... | 06:24 |
| Diopter | The connection tracking system is really kind of amazing. It can be used to inform dynamic policy routing decisions | 06:24 |
| kviiri | MicroProse has pretty much ruined my life, their classic games like Pirates!, Colonization, Sword of the Samurai and of course Civilization have stolen hundreds of hours of my life | 06:24 |
| Diopter | PiotrSikora: Not to mention the variety of helper modules that can do L7 stuffs. Of course, most of that work is done in proprietary systems that sit on top of it, like "Application Load Balancers" and whatnot. | 06:25 |
| Diopter | But most of them are just netfilter modules utilizing the hooks. | 06:26 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: development-wise - I might even agree with you :) but I know some serious "Linux-only" shops that move traffic to OpenBSD's pf as soon as they are hit with DDoS | 06:27 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: on the side not, pf (at least the current version in OpenBSD) got divert support, which you could use to do similar stuff to netfilter hooks | 06:28 |
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| Diopter | PiotrSikora: Understood. On the whole, *BSD network drivers are cleaner and used to almost universally perform better under load. | 06:28 |
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| Diopter | PiotrSikora: Coupled with kernel 2.4 experience of ipchains, I can easily see some old hats wanting to stick with pf for heavy load. | 06:29 |
| Diopter | However... | 06:29 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: but yeah, pf is years behind netfilter when it comes to extending abilities | 06:29 |
| Diopter | That's a totally different world than the one that exists now. Particularly with, say, bonded 10G Intel cards on a modern 3.x kernel | 06:29 |
| Diopter | Linux can eat a DDoS for breakfast in terms of raw network traffic without flinching these days. | 06:30 |
| Diopter | Because the *good* NICs now have heavy vendor muscle behind their driver dev | 06:30 |
| Diopter | BSD had vendor support early due to not minding NDAs :P | 06:30 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: I don't want to throw out names, but it's Linux 3.x shop, definitely in top20 in regards to web traffic worldwide | 06:31 |
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| Diopter | That's fine. I can only speak from my own experience. | 06:31 |
| PiotrSikora | Diopter: I believe that *BSDs do just fine with Intel NICs | 06:32 |
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| Diopter | They do. Very well, in fact. | 06:32 |
| Diopter | I was only saying that Linux does equally well now. :) | 06:32 |
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| PiotrSikora | :) | 06:32 |
| QRPIKE | - don't mean to interrupt - Can you use swift for VM storage, or is it simply a object store like S3 ? | 06:33 |
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| zynzel | QRPIKE: you can use swift as a glance backend | 06:35 |
| zynzel | and store images in it. | 06:36 |
| QRPIKE | gotcha, but not volume mounts? | 06:36 |
| QRPIKE | I'm just trying to understand how you get volume redundancy without using a NAS or something like that | 06:36 |
| Diopter | Not volume mounts, correct. | 06:36 |
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| Diopter | The Cinder project is aiming to help facilitate redundancy. That's not really... builtin at present. | 06:36 |
| Diopter | Amongst other things | 06:37 |
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| QRPIKE | ideally each server would have compute, network and volume running so as you rack more servers, all of your resources expand horizontally | 06:37 |
| Diopter | Sure. FlatDHCP multi_host would cover the network aspect of that, compute is pretty portable, just drop it in | 06:38 |
| Diopter | Volumes... well, not sure about clustering them. | 06:39 |
| QRPIKE | but if you loose a server, you lose that data yes? | 06:39 |
| QRPIKE | lose* | 06:39 |
| Diopter | Yes. Whatever's local to it. Unless you run DRDB pairs or such | 06:39 |
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| QRPIKE | so for now, would u recommend running volume on 1 node with a NAS connected to it? | 06:40 |
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| Diopter | Probably, yes. | 06:42 |
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| zynzel | QRPIKE: we use normal rack server as volume controler | 06:43 |
| zynzel | raid 50+spare | 06:43 |
| zynzel | 2 physical servers like that | 06:43 |
| QRPIKE | gotcha | 06:43 |
| QRPIKE | sorry for all the questions, I'm Openstack newb - but I'm learning | 06:44 |
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| Diopter | S'all good | 06:44 |
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| QRPIKE | I am trying to track more stats for each user in openstack, for instance Network in/out. I am looking into Ceilometer, but seems its not really developed anymore. Any other scripts ya'll know of? | 06:56 |
| zynzel | QRPIKE: you have blueprint for that http://wiki.openstack.org/SystemUsageData | 06:58 |
| zynzel | but dont know if it is stable/developed or dead | 06:59 |
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| QRPIKE | don't punch me in the face, but is Blueprint like a feature request? | 07:00 |
| zynzel | QRPIKE: yeah | 07:01 |
| zynzel | 'A blueprint is a type of paper-based reproduction usually of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design. ' ;) | 07:02 |
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| soren | QRPIKE: "not really developed anymore"? Dude, it's been weekend. It's hardly fair to declare a project dead after a few days of inactivity. | 07:23 |
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| QRPIKE | sorry! i am new to openstack, i was just reading the documentation and it was scarce is all | 07:24 |
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| soren | QRPIKE: That's pretty common for young projects. | 07:27 |
| QRPIKE | I understand, and I would love to contribute. Its def something we need for our project | 07:27 |
| kviiri | Speaking of which, the activity of this IRC channel came as a surprise to me. I was expecting something like four users and a logbot, but this is much better :) | 07:28 |
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| cryptk | kviiri, we try to keep it hoppin' in here ;) | 07:31 |
| kviiri | :) | 07:32 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | hola | 07:51 |
| QRPIKE | hola | 07:52 |
| kviiri | Heya | 07:52 |
| melmoth | hola p3N74D4v1d | 07:52 |
| p3N74D4v1d | hi people | 07:52 |
| p3N74D4v1d | begining of a loong week | 07:52 |
| kviiri | Monday \o/ | 07:52 |
| p3N74D4v1d | lool | 07:53 |
| p3N74D4v1d | Thank God it's monday | 07:53 |
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| kviiri | The best thing about monday is that you can always blame stuff going wrong on it being monday | 07:53 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | melmoth: still couldn't make my VM import the public key last week | 07:58 |
| melmoth | any error message in euca-get-console ? | 07:58 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | let me share | 07:59 |
| p3N74D4v1d | some paste bin | 07:59 |
| p3N74D4v1d | http://pastebin.com/ZjmzFAxL | 08:00 |
| melmoth | grumble. | 08:01 |
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| melmoth | how did you boot the vm ? cause i do not see any funky error. | 08:01 |
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| melmoth | so i m assuming the vm was able to contact the metadata server all right | 08:01 |
| p3N74D4v1d | yeah | 08:02 |
| p3N74D4v1d | look at this lisne | 08:02 |
| p3N74D4v1d | line* | 08:02 |
| p3N74D4v1d | 2012-08-06 07:53:56,862 - __init__.py[WARNING]: Unhandled non-multipart userdata '' | 08:02 |
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| melmoth | i have the same here | 08:03 |
| p3N74D4v1d | on your system?? | 08:04 |
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| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, 1) how did you boot the vm and 2) what image are you using ? (an official ubuntu cloud one or some home made one ?) | 08:04 |
| melmoth | i have the same line when i look at a euca-get-console of a vm that got the public key from the metadata server | 08:04 |
| p3N74D4v1d | 1) using dashboard :) | 08:06 |
| p3N74D4v1d | 2) official could image | 08:06 |
| p3N74D4v1d | hummm I don'y use euca tools, I use nova | 08:06 |
| melmoth | same stuff as far as getting the console output is concerned. | 08:07 |
| melmoth | try booting with either nova and or euca-run specifying the public key to use | 08:07 |
| melmoth | right now, it just looks like there was none used. | 08:07 |
| melmoth | (i have no idea hwo to tell the dahsboard ot use a public key) | 08:08 |
| p3N74D4v1d | can you paste the command please | 08:09 |
| p3N74D4v1d | In dashboard there's an option | 08:09 |
| p3N74D4v1d | to specify the key | 08:09 |
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| melmoth | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19979/ | 08:12 |
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| prometheanfire | think I can test openstack (basic testing) by running 8 guests (1G each) in KVM, I'd like to trest nova and swift primarilly | 08:18 |
| prometheanfire | and block storage maybe | 08:18 |
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| melmoth | prometheanfire, i find 8G a bit short here. (it works with nova/glance/kesytone on a 1 manager/1 db/2 compute settings) | 08:20 |
| melmoth | but it s bloody slow. And i doubt it would work with swift vm on top of that. | 08:20 |
| prometheanfire | I'm wondering the count as well | 08:21 |
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| prometheanfire | I could do 5 2G ones | 08:21 |
| p3N74D4v1d | hehe thanks melmoth :P | 08:21 |
| melmoth | worked ? | 08:21 |
| p3N74D4v1d | yeah | 08:21 |
| melmoth | \o/ | 08:22 |
| p3N74D4v1d | ubuntu@ubuntu-srv:~$ | 08:22 |
| prometheanfire | I could probably reduce the ram most of my other VMs to get 16 total usable | 08:22 |
| p3N74D4v1d | I was omitting the -i option for the ssh client | 08:22 |
| p3N74D4v1d | :( | 08:22 |
| melmoth | :) | 08:22 |
| melmoth | prometheanfire, best thing is.. to give it a try. | 08:23 |
| melmoth | prometheanfire, you plan to run in multi host mode or single host mode ? | 08:23 |
| melmoth | (if single most, you may have to play a bit with your hypervisor iptables rules) | 08:23 |
| prometheanfire | no clue yet :D | 08:23 |
| prometheanfire | I'll give it it's own vlan (or multiple) | 08:24 |
| prometheanfire | running proxmox atm and will convert eventually... | 08:24 |
| prometheanfire | will also get gentoo ebuilds in the tree I think | 08:25 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: ping | 08:37 |
| jamespage | morning davepigott | 08:37 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Morning! | 08:37 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Back to the old OpenStack scenario... | 08:37 |
| davepigott | jamespage: I now have everything stable, but still have that old problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/204852 | 08:37 |
| davepigott | jamespage: What am I missing? | 08:38 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: I've done searches, and some people are having similar problems, but it's not clear what the solution is. | 08:39 |
| davepigott | jamespage: When we got this far before there was something about having to enable something on the ethernet switch. Could that still be the case? | 08:39 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, when you can't access the instances where are you trying to access them from? the 'public' network (192.168.x.x)? | 08:40 |
| davepigott | jamespage: From the controller node | 08:40 |
| davepigott | jamespage: I can ssh onto an instance running on the controller node, but not one running on a compute node | 08:41 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, have you authorized network access? using either the nova of ec2 command line utils? | 08:42 |
| jamespage | sorry nova or ec2 | 08:42 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: You mean allow ssh access? | 08:43 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, yes | 08:43 |
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| jamespage | and probably icmp as will | 08:43 |
| jamespage | well | 08:43 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Yep. On the control node. Do I need to do it on the compute nodes as well. | 08:43 |
| jamespage | sorry - monday morning | 08:43 |
| davepigott | jamespage: :) | 08:43 |
| davepigott | jamespage: I know the feeling. :) | 08:43 |
| jamespage | davepigott, hrm - its done at the 'cloud' level rather than on in the individual nodes | 08:43 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Well, I issued the command on the control node | 08:44 |
| jamespage | davepigott, can you pastebin the commands for me please | 08:44 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132096/ | 08:46 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, hmm - not sure at first glance | 08:48 |
| k4n0 | hi | 08:48 |
| davepigott | jamespage: It's very odd. I've been looking at this on and off for a while now, but always hit the same problem. | 08:49 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Wondering if I have some fundamental infrastructure problem, like something on the eth1 private lan switch that isn't allowing certain types of traffic? | 08:50 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, I don't think so - you are not doing anything 'hard' from a switch perspective | 08:50 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Hmm. OK. Good, I suppose. :) | 08:50 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, OK - so I had a trawl through out test lab configuration | 08:58 |
| jamespage | its setup a bit different; we always assign a public floating IP address to every instance | 08:59 |
| jamespage | which is used for access | 08:59 |
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| jamespage | the instances can see each other; but its not possible to access the instance using the private address from outside of the cloud | 09:00 |
| jamespage | (as I would expect TBH) | 09:00 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Yeah, that's how I used to have it, and still had the same problem. | 09:00 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, OK - I think you have gone beyond my knowledge in that case | 09:01 |
| davepigott | jamespage: But the instances (on the 172… addresses) are pingable on the control node and when I ssh in, I can ping the outside world. :( | 09:01 |
| davepigott | jamespage: OK. Anyone you can point me at? | 09:01 |
| jamespage | davepigott, when you start an instance on the other compute node, can you ping and ssh to it from the compute node itself? | 09:02 |
| davepigott | jamespage: Nope | 09:02 |
| jamespage | davepigott, probably adam_g then | 09:02 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: I start the instance from the control node and it gets assigned to a particular machine by OpenStack | 09:03 |
| davepigott | jamespage: I'm assuming adam_g isn't online yet | 09:03 |
| jamespage | west coast US | 09:03 |
| jamespage | so no | 09:03 |
| davepigott | jamespage: OK. e-mail? Or wait until he's online later this evening? | 09:04 |
| jamespage | can your instances see each other irrespective on instance location? | 09:04 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: Haven't tried pinging one from the other. Let me try... | 09:04 |
| davepigott | jamespage: No. From the one I can ssh into, I can't ping the other one. | 09:05 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, and you can see the private network from control->compute? 172.31.252.1-> 172.31.252.2? | 09:09 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: Actually, now you mention it, that's the weird thing. I expect the instance IP addresses to start at 172.31.252.10, but they don't. They start at 172.31.252.2, which is taken by the second node. Hmmm | 09:12 |
| jamespage | davepigott, that would break stuff | 09:12 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: Certainly would. I'm just wondering why on earth that "--flat_network_dhcp_start=172.31.252.10" line isn't being obeyed. | 09:13 |
| davepigott | jamespage: And why the instance I can ssh to actually has the address 172.31.252.2, which is the bridge address of the compute node | 09:14 |
| melmoth | davepigott, i doubt it is, i do not find a trace of this string in the nova sources (flat_network_dhcp_start) | 09:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033413 in ceilometer "collector record_metering_data exception on timestamp" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033413 | 09:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033428 in devstack "q-dhcp: stale dnsmasq aren't killed on initialization" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033428 | 09:14 |
| p3N74D4v1d | do I need extra config to enable inter VMs communication ?? (I use multi-hosts with FlatDHCP) | 09:15 |
| davepigott | melmoth: Any idea what flag I should be using in nova.conf then? | 09:16 |
| melmoth | davepigott, nope, what i do, is to deal with it when i nova-manage create the fixed network | 09:16 |
| davepigott | melmoth: Ah. Hmmm. Let me look at what I actually set up for that. I may have got that wrong. | 09:17 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, not on the fixed network. On the floating one you need to play with policy | 09:17 |
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| jamespage | davepigott, I think that might be an obsolete flag but I'm not 100% certain | 09:18 |
| davepigott | jamespage: OK. | 09:18 |
| melmoth | davepigott, actually, i deal with that (reserving some ip for real boxes) in the floating network... on the flat one, i never had to do anything special | 09:19 |
| p3N74D4v1d | melmoth : hmmm I can't ping between VMs, but each VM has access to internet.... | 09:19 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | strange to me | 09:19 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, did you launche the secgroup add rules command (http://paste.openstack.org/show/19979/) ? | 09:20 |
| melmoth | (well, i guess so, otherwise you should not have been able to ssh in the vm in the first place....) | 09:20 |
| p3N74D4v1d | yep | 09:21 |
| melmoth | well... tcpdump is your friend.... | 09:21 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | hehe ok | 09:22 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | melmoth: whe using multi host , should I set the routing_source_ip on the controller node? | 09:31 |
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| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, no, the outgoing packet should be snatted with their respective compute node ip | 09:32 |
| melmoth | so they all have a different source address (in this case the (i think default) my_ip one) | 09:32 |
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| melmoth | you need to play with this setting in single mode, and set it to the ip of the node running nova-network | 09:33 |
| p3N74D4v1d | ok | 09:33 |
| p3N74D4v1d | I used it on multinode | 09:33 |
| p3N74D4v1d | :( | 09:33 |
| p3N74D4v1d | maybe the source of my problem | 09:33 |
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| eb_ | When I launch an instance on compute I have this problem: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19982/ | 09:59 |
| p3N74D4v1d | melmoth : it is funny could-init is neither installed on my controller host nor on my compute host | 10:01 |
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| p3N74D4v1d | but the public made its way to the instance | 10:02 |
| p3N74D4v1d | I guess cloud init is just for ec2 clients | 10:02 |
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| oneiroi | Has anyone got a running example of an 'instance' iptables chain please? methinks my nova-network has gone awry | 10:23 |
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| oneiroi | In short I've investigated and can see all the relevant WAN packets leaving the system, and replies hitting the host ethernet but they are not being routed to the instance, which is odd, as LAN access to the instance via a floating ip works ... I think I'm missing a rule in a chain somewhere. | 10:24 |
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| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, the important part is: it s installed in your vm | 10:27 |
| melmoth | that s why i asked if it was an "official" ubuntu cloud img or something home made | 10:28 |
| p3N74D4v1d | melmoth : official | 10:28 |
| p3N74D4v1d | I just noticed | 10:28 |
| p3N74D4v1d | hm | 10:29 |
| p3N74D4v1d | nova boot has an option | 10:29 |
| p3N74D4v1d | --user-data to specify a script to initialize data | 10:29 |
| melmoth | oneiroi, http://www.mirantis.com/blog/openstack-networking-single-host-flatdhcpmanager/ | 10:29 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1d, yes, that s if you want to add other stuff (like, running a script once the vm is up or something) | 10:30 |
| p3N74D4v1d | ok | 10:30 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, taking a look; thanks. | 10:30 |
| eb_ | I have a controller with only a NIC. If I launch instance on controller it works, in contrast if I launch the instance on the compute it doesn't works. Th error is http://paste.openstack.org/show/19982/ | 10:36 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, 'Giving VMs access to the outside world is a topic for a subsequent post.' :-( great overview though booked marked that for a thorough read during lunch, | 10:37 |
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| eb_ | Is there somebody that it knows the correct configurations(nova.conf and network interfaces) with only one nic? | 10:37 |
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| oneiroi | eb_, which version of nova? | 10:38 |
| eb_ | essex 2012.1 | 10:38 |
| oneiroi | what's the host os ? | 10:39 |
| melmoth | oneiroi, i guess what you should look at is a tcpdump from the hypervisor on all nic and see how it nat the packets | 10:40 |
| melmoth | check the source ip of outgoing packet patch the adress of the node running nova-network | 10:40 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, I have packets come back in on the public interface but appear to never go anywhere :-/ vnet0 for instance (I see the outgoing packets but not the incoming) thus I think nating is b0rked | 10:40 |
| oneiroi | Could do with a compativie (known working) nat rule dump to compare too, if not I'll just pick apart the rules | 10:41 |
| melmoth | ahh, so you got ping back on the compute node... Hmm double check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is actually set to 1 | 10:41 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, yup first thing I look at now :-/ | 10:42 |
| oneiroi | that and selinux | 10:42 |
| melmoth | hehe | 10:42 |
| eb_ | ubuntu 12.04 | 10:42 |
| melmoth | sometimes, it helps having the nic in promiscious mode (a simple tcpdump will do the trick) so the kernel accept packets that do not seems to be targeted at itself in the first place | 10:42 |
| kviiri | The Quantum docs at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/ seem to be outdated, is there any up-to-date documentation for Quantum? | 10:42 |
| oneiroi | eb_, hmmm unsure with ubuntu myself, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17#Nova_Network_Setup < this followed by setting public_interface in nova.conf I found at least _used_ to work | 10:43 |
| kviiri | I'm trying to follow that guide as well as OVS-specific docs (http://openvswitch.org/openstack/documentation/) | 10:44 |
| eb_ | _oneroi With Ubuntu I have to do manually the configuration of the network interfaces... | 10:46 |
| eb_ | oneroi With Ubuntu I have to do manually the configuration of the network interfaces... | 10:46 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, will give it a try. | 10:49 |
| eb_ | In my opinion on the compute when starts an instance don't find the dnsmasq on the controller, probably because it's wrong the configuration | 10:49 |
| eb_ | But the logs are not clear. | 10:49 |
| oneiroi | eb_, hmmm unsure sorry, I don't use Ubuntu for my production / lab systems I used RHEL / Fedora respectively, have you configured a bridge and network ? | 10:50 |
| eb_ | oniroi This is my network interfaces on controller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19986/ | 10:51 |
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| eb_ | oneiroi This is my network interfaces on controller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19986/ | 10:51 |
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| eb_ | oneiroi, this is on compute: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19987/ | 10:53 |
| eb_ | oneiroi, on the controller I have only one nic..., on the compute I have two nics... | 10:53 |
| oneiroi | eb_, are the 2 nic's bonded? | 10:54 |
| * oneiroi doesn't have any experience configuring multi nic nova / kvm and uses only bonded nic setups when available :S | 10:54 | |
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| eb_ | what do you mean for "bonded" | 10:57 |
| alex88 | hi guys, i've created 2 vlan networks, both i've set bridge-interface=eth2, but it creates 2 bridges, br100 and br101 and only one is bridged to eth2, how can i bridge both? | 10:57 |
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| oneiroi | eb_, I assume that's a no, it's when you configured 2 NIC's to act as one, either as failover or say via implementing 802.11aq etc .. | 11:06 |
| oneiroi | ooooo melmoth I _may_ have the answer ... a curl is reporting network unreachable as it appears to be trying to connect to the ipv6 address which is not implemented here at this time ... I'll have to look at forcing it into ipv4 mode or getting creating with a ipv6 broker ;-) | 11:08 |
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| melmoth | hmmm, never had this sort of ipv6 issues. | 11:08 |
| melmoth | (the idea of openstack with ipv6 make my teeth grasp in fear) | 11:09 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, 12:08:14.367370 IP6 fe80::a091:6513:14cd:e5d3.dhcpv6-client > ff02::1:2.dhcpv6-server: dhcp6 solicit just capped that ... yeh I haven't setup ipv6 atm, it's on the list ... way down the list ... | 11:09 |
| oneiroi | I'll have to have a ponder with this one it would appear :-/ | 11:09 |
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| kviiri | Whee, got ahead by several error messages already! \o/ | 11:38 |
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| wall | Hello | 11:55 |
| wall | I have a problem | 11:55 |
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| wall | When I attach a volume,the nova-compute output :TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Stderr: 'iscsiadm: No portal found.\n' | 11:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033493 in openstack-manuals "iscsiadm: No portal found. in the newest code after 2012.8.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033493 | 11:56 |
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| melmoth | wall i once had this on a box where both tgt and iscsi-whatever was installed | 11:58 |
| melmoth | both were daemon acting as a target. | 11:58 |
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| melmoth | and the one starting first was not the one set in nova. | 11:58 |
| melmoth | grumble | 11:58 |
| melmoth | wall i once had this on a box where both tgt and iscsi-whatever was installed | 11:59 |
| melmoth | both were daemon acting as a target. | 11:59 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, http://fpaste.org/5RPC/ still no joy ... from what I am reading in the source ipv6 should be off by default but the demonetbr0 has a ipv6 address :-/ investigating use_ipv6 = false in nova.conf atm :-/ (error on instance is: curl (7) Failed to connect to 2a00:1450:4007:801::101f: Network is unreachable) :-( | 11:59 |
| wall | I installed these packages | 12:00 |
| wall | melmoth | 12:00 |
| wall | TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Stderr: 'iscsiadm: No portal found.\n' | 12:00 |
| melmoth | wall be sure iscsitarget is _not_ installed | 12:01 |
| melmoth | (on the box acting as a target. because you are using tgt instead) | 12:02 |
| wall | You mean that I need not install iscsitarget package? | 12:02 |
| melmoth | yes/ | 12:02 |
| wall | Why | 12:02 |
| oneiroi | http://fpaste.org/RTBM/ revised with nova-manage network list output ... and digging into the python atm :-/ | 12:03 |
| melmoth | because iscsi_helper=tgtadm | 12:03 |
| * melmoth is confused | 12:03 | |
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| melmoth | is your target is handled by tgt, you dont want to also install iscsitarget | 12:04 |
| wall | I remove iscsitarget and I sudo iscsiadm -m node -T iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-7bfbb0ca-b411-4522-a80a-1f2742fd3d27 -p 172.168.1.2:3260 --rescan | 12:04 |
| wall | the same error | 12:04 |
| melmoth | now, i m not sure if iscsi_helper is a conf setting that mention the target or the initiator | 12:04 |
| melmoth | well, you need to start tgt after | 12:04 |
| wall | My OS is Ubuntu12.04 | 12:05 |
| melmoth | well, at least, that was my problem.. yours may be something else | 12:05 |
| wall | Same error | 12:05 |
| melmoth | oneiroi, what i dont get is why is curl talking about ipv6 adresses. what was the thing you were trying to access to in the first place ? | 12:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995611 in openstack-ci "migrate launchpad mailing lists to mailman" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995611 | 12:06 |
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| wall | melmoth | 12:07 |
| melmoth | yep | 12:07 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, litterally trying to figure out why recently guests lost general internet access ... curl error lead me to belive something was awry with ipv6 implementation something which I have not enabled at any point; may of creeped into an update it's puzzeling to say the least :-/ | 12:07 |
| wall | I find the error is a new one | 12:07 |
| alex88 | someone good with mdadm? i get 2 raid arrays renamed to md126 and md127 on boot | 12:07 |
| wall | I installed the same in 7-30 | 12:08 |
| oneiroi | all my interfaces bar demonetbr0 do not have an ipv6 address which compounds the thinking it's something in nova-network but unsure atm still digging through the code. | 12:08 |
| wall | It is ok,but I installed today and used the newest code,it has the error | 12:08 |
| kviiri | I found this in compute.log: | 12:09 |
| kviiri | libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': No such file or directory | 12:09 |
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| oneiroi | kviiri, implies libvirtd isn't running | 12:09 |
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| wall | kviiri,I think you install ndb error | 12:10 |
| wall | I meet the same problem and sloved it | 12:10 |
| kviiri | oneiroi: Thanks, there seems to be the problem: libvirtd dead but subsys locked | 12:10 |
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| wall | Anyone meet TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Stderr: 'iscsiadm: No portal found.\n'? | 12:11 |
| wall | melmoth,any suggestion? | 12:12 |
| melmoth | nope, i m not even sure what your problem is.. and iscsi is not really my strong point. I just happen to have this specific problem (2 target deamon installed) once. | 12:13 |
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| wall | ok | 12:16 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, looks like a false positive did some debug logging in manage.py and got: er [req-58fa6da5-2b28-4ff7-8f98-633225d0dd39 None None] ipv6 is disabled' on nova-network restart ... BAH! back to the drawing board. | 12:16 |
| wall | Anyone meet TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Stderr: 'iscsiadm: No portal found.\n'? | 12:16 |
| oneiroi | wall, suggests glance hasn't registered a queue with rabbitmq/qpid | 12:17 |
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| oneiroi | glance provides the iscsi targets for openstack iirc | 12:17 |
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| wall | What? | 12:17 |
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| wall | How can I fixed it | 12:18 |
| wall | onerioi | 12:18 |
| wall | ? | 12:18 |
| oneiroi | have you setup and subsequently started glance? | 12:18 |
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| wall | Yes,I install glance from github | 12:19 |
| oneiroi | right and is it started? | 12:19 |
| wall | This is a all in one station | 12:19 |
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| wall | yes,glance is started | 12:20 |
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| wall | api and registry | 12:20 |
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| oneiroi | right 1) installing from github leads to using development code I don't recomend doing this unless you are developing against it. 2) If glance has started and assuming there is not a bug (which there may be from github code!) then check rabbitmq / qpid service is running | 12:21 |
| wall | You mean that all in one has some problem in compat? | 12:21 |
| wall | yes ,rabbitmq is running | 12:21 |
| melmoth | is it not nova-volumes that start the iscsi stuff ? | 12:22 |
| wall | nova-scheduler is ok | 12:22 |
| wall | I confused | 12:22 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, unsure glance as I recall certainly provided an iscsi target back in diablo. | 12:22 |
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| wall | oneiroi,you mean glance has some problem with nova? | 12:23 |
| oneiroi | at least "that's what they said in training" ;-) | 12:23 |
| zykes- | glance iscsi ? ! | 12:23 |
| zykes- | whaaat oneiroi ? | 12:24 |
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| wall | Can you explain it more? | 12:24 |
| oneiroi | oh dear I awoke zykes- everyone flee ... | 12:24 |
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| zykes- | :p | 12:24 |
| zykes- | whose installing from github? wall ? | 12:25 |
| oneiroi | zykes-, back in diablo I seem to recall glance provided an iscsi interface for retreaving images. | 12:25 |
| oneiroi | zykes-, yes wall is | 12:25 |
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| zykes- | oneiroi: I don't think it did | 12:25 |
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| oneiroi | zykes-, this _was_ dev preview code we were being trained on .. so it may of been dropped / I may of misheard :S | 12:25 |
| zykes- | ah ok :p | 12:26 |
| oneiroi | wall, your trying to setup from development code, there could be any number of things wrong; is there a particular reason you're not installing from the latest available releases for your distro? | 12:27 |
| oneiroi | zykes-, while you're awake fix my nova network :P | 12:27 |
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| zykes- | wall: NOTE for ubuntu you can install some very late builds from the PPA (Don't remember where it is though) | 12:27 |
| zykes- | oneiroi: what's wrong ? | 12:27 |
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| wall | zykes,"you can install some very late builds from the PPA" | 12:30 |
| oneiroi | zykes-, http://fpaste.org/RTBM/ yet ... guest does this when running curl google.co.uk: curl (7) Failed to connect to 2a00:1450:4007:801::101f: Network is unreachable only I'm not running ipv6 ... so I edited manage.py tp run debug code and got [req-58fa6da5-2b28-4ff7-8f98-633225d0dd39 None None] ipv6 is disabled ... so back to square 1 on why instance has no intarnets :S | 12:30 |
| wall | you mean that I install some packages liked tgt in old version? | 12:30 |
| zykes- | wall: as instead of installing from GIT to get the newest | 12:30 |
| melmoth | why is google.co.ul resolved in a ipv6 adress ? | 12:30 |
| zykes- | there are .deb builds in a PPA repo | 12:31 |
| oneiroi | melmoth, indeed ... I'm not running ipv6 anything but nova seems to want to provide it ... perplexing :-/ | 12:31 |
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| zykes- | oneiroi: can you do "ping 4.2.2.2" ? | 12:32 |
| wall | you mean I install openstack used apt-get resource? | 12:32 |
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| zykes- | wall: yes using apt-get install ... when a PPA repo is used | 12:32 |
| melmoth | oneiroi try to curl an ipv4 adress without name , may be it would work, then next step is to understand why your resolver is acting funny | 12:32 |
| wall | I think so | 12:32 |
| wall | I think it need install from apt-get unless you develop the code from github? | 12:34 |
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| zykes- | wall: sorry ? | 12:34 |
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| oneiroi | zykes-, seemingly not :S melmoth, I can curl a LAN side ipv4 not a WAN side, implying perhaps 2 issues 1) name resolution and 2) general access | 12:34 |
| kerouac | why is dnsmasq/nova trying to use ipv6 in the vms? | 12:35 |
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| wall | ? | 12:36 |
| zykes- | oneiroi: got the sysctl option for forwarding enabled on your controller ? | 12:36 |
| wall | zykes? | 12:36 |
| zykes- | wall: I don't get it what you mean by that last question | 12:36 |
| oneiroi | zykes-, ayes ip_forwarding is 1 | 12:38 |
| zykes- | kk | 12:38 |
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| wall | I mean that I install openstack from apt-get source | 12:39 |
| wall | hehe,Sorry zykes | 12:39 |
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| zykes- | wall: when you use the PPA that I say | 12:40 |
| zykes- | you get some packages built from a latest source | 12:40 |
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| wall | I used the apt source directly | 12:41 |
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| wall | You mean the last source ? | 12:41 |
| wall | I do not understand what you mean the last source? | 12:42 |
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| zykes- | they build .deb's from git regularely | 12:43 |
| wall | The apt-get install some times is not the newest? | 12:44 |
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| zykes- | sigh :p | 12:45 |
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| zykes- | wall: the apt-get install normally is "stable" packages in other words Essex now, they have another repo which is "unable" that has later builds | 12:45 |
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| * oneiroi *prod* zykes- | 12:46 | |
| kviiri | wall: Ubuntu packages, the ones you typically get using apt, are often several months old. | 12:47 |
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| wall | Thank you,zykes. | 12:47 |
| wall | And how can I get the newset deb | 12:47 |
| kviiri | Building it yourself is the surest way | 12:48 |
| zykes- | kviiri: why ? | 12:48 |
| kviiri | zykes-: Why what? | 12:48 |
| wall | What ? | 12:48 |
| zykes- | http://wiki.openstack.org/PPAs < this wall | 12:48 |
| wall | I bulid it by myself? | 12:48 |
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| kviiri | zykes-: I was about to add that "there may also be prebuilt bleeding edge debs available, Google it" :) | 12:49 |
| zykes- | that's what I have been saying for the last x minutes :p | 12:49 |
| kviiri | :) | 12:50 |
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| oneiroi | don't mind me ... just sitting here, y'know ... curing nova network | 12:51 |
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| oneiroi | :D | 12:51 |
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| kviiri | exit | 13:28 |
| kviiri | ... this is not how it goes in the movies | 13:28 |
| kbringard | in the movies they use nmap | 13:29 |
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| kodapa | We're having problems with essex instances losing network connetion randomly. Restarting networking inside the instance fixes this problem | 14:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033528 in nova "nova/testing/runner.py on Windows: object has no attribute 'STD_OUT_HANDLE' (including solution)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033528 | 14:36 |
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| kodapa | anyone seen that? :P | 14:44 |
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| eb_ | I resolved my problem installing nova-network on the compute too | 14:49 |
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| ntt_dev | Hi, how can I configure keystone with ssl? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html seems not working... | 14:51 |
| kodapa | eb_: we run nova-network on the computes, with vlan and multi host | 14:51 |
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| kodapa | I think we're running into this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/997978 | 14:51 |
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| eb_ | My configuration is with multi host and flatdhcp | 14:52 |
| eb_ | and only one nic | 14:52 |
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| kodapa | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1016848 | 14:56 |
| kodapa | this too | 14:56 |
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| ntt_dev | keystone with ssl, someone can help me? | 14:57 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033544 in devstack "Cinder does not work with qpid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033544 | 15:26 |
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| annegentle | ntt_dev: this may help, had you found it yet? https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/201497 | 15:44 |
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| nightcrawler786 | quantum doesn't seem to work with Keystone. | 16:13 |
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| UICTamale | Is it really necessary to make a separate tenant just for 'services' ? | 16:26 |
| UICTamale | why can't the users for services be under the same tenant as your main project | 16:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033567 in python-novaclient "No way for user to check client version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033567 | 16:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033573 in devstack "Unable to run stable/essex stack.sh after running trunk stack.sh -- Apache config failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033573 | 16:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033596 in nova "nova/utils.py depends on fcntl, not available on Windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033596 | 17:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033599 in openstack-manuals "JsonFilter scheduler filter not documented" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033599 | 18:05 |
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| swinchen | To use an ec2 tool (like hybridfox) on openstack do you need any ports open other 8773? | 18:22 |
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| UICTamale | My nova-compute log shows I have a pretty serious problem - right after restarting all nova services I always get this: | 18:39 |
| UICTamale | InstanceNotFound: Instance instance-00000003 could not be found | 18:39 |
| UICTamale | It's a CRITICAL - nova [-] Instance instance-00000003 could not be found. | 18:39 |
| UICTamale | what can I do? | 18:39 |
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| UICTamale | i cleared all three mysql tables and removed everything from /var/lib/nova/instances - hope that's ok :\ | 18:39 |
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| alop | Anyone seen this libvirt error in nova-compute.log? | 18:53 |
| alop | "Domain not | 18:53 |
| alop | found: no domain withmatching UUID:" | 18:53 |
| alop | code=42 | 18:54 |
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| smokes2345 | ok, just getting started with openstack and i seem to have run into some conflicting information. i was under the impression nova goes on the compute node while everything else goes on another node, however the install doc i found says nova and glance are on the same node | 18:55 |
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| smokes2345 | is that correct? nova/glance on the same node? | 18:56 |
| kerouac | smokes2345: you can split it up pretty much however you'd like | 18:56 |
| Diopter | smokes2345: "nova" has several actual daemons. | 18:56 |
| Diopter | smokes2345: There's nova-network, nova-compute, a couple nova API daemons, etc | 18:56 |
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| smokes2345 | ah, i suppose that makes a little more sense. the doc i've got says to install nova and glance on the same node with keystone, is that right? | 18:57 |
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| smokes2345 | do compute nodes require anything other than nova to operate? | 19:01 |
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| annegentle | smokes2345: which doc is so prescriptive this way? | 19:02 |
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| smokes2345 | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/ | 19:02 |
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| smokes2345 | tbh i guess it doesn't explicitly say where to install the services, thats kinda my problem | 19:02 |
| phschwartz-rm | I can't seem to figure out why my vm's get stuck in spawning. I am running them as kvm instances. This is my network settings. http://paste2.org/p/2096633 | 19:03 |
| annegentle | smokes2345: a Cloud Controller node and multiple Compute nodes is pretty common | 19:03 |
| annegentle | but your Cloud Controller can split out more services as you scale it | 19:03 |
| phschwartz-rm | There are no errors in the compute.log and it has passed the scheduler. Where else can I look to figure out what the issue is. | 19:03 |
| annegentle | on a Compute node usually nova-compute runs and that's where all your guests run | 19:04 |
| phschwartz-rm | (It looks like a wait on iptables settings.) | 19:04 |
| annegentle | if you want HA networking you also run nova-network on Compute nodes | 19:04 |
| Diopter | phschwartz-rm: Check nova-network.log | 19:04 |
| annegentle | smokes2345: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html | 19:05 |
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| annegentle | smokes2345: hopefully that helps you figure out what to put where. Start with 2 nodes then figure out what you want to scale out | 19:05 |
| annegentle | smokes2345: for example, Images could go on a separate Cloud Controller, and Identity could go on a 2nd Cloud Controller-ish node | 19:05 |
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| smokes2345 | ok, cool. from what i can tell so far, all of the services can use a mysql backend. is it more common to have all services use the same mysql engine running on a single node or to have each service run it's own db engine | 19:07 |
| phschwartz-rm | diopter: I don't see any errors or activity in the network log other then the aqmp message to spawn the node. | 19:08 |
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| phschwartz-rm | It appears to get past networking and scheduling. It fails in the spawning state with an ip address assigned to the instance. | 19:22 |
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| UICTamale | I'm stuck on getting ec2 to work with my new tenant - I'm in the same rabbit hole as others in this thread: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/962600 | 19:25 |
| phschwartz-rm | This seems to be the last line in the compute log when it fails. http://paste2.org/p/2096645 | 19:25 |
| UICTamale | When I run 'keystone catalog' alone, I get: | 19:25 |
| UICTamale | Expecting authentication method via either a service token, --token or env[SERVICE_TOKEN], or credentials, --os_username or env[OS_USERNAME]. | 19:25 |
| UICTamale | but when I run it with my new token and endpoint, I get: | 19:25 |
| UICTamale | 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' | 19:25 |
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| dolphm | UICTamale: without a username/password, you can't possibly have a catalog because you're bypassing authentication | 19:32 |
| UICTamale | dolphm: That's exactly what the thread suggests doing though | 19:33 |
| UICTamale | which is why I'm so confused | 19:33 |
| UICTamale | the guy replied to that seemingly ridiculous suggesting with "It worked!" | 19:33 |
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| UICTamale | in any case, I think I'm missing something less obvious | 19:34 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: use a --token and --endpoint to create a user/tenant, and then get a catalog for that user | 19:34 |
| UICTamale | I have a bunch of brand new user/tenants | 19:34 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: (what thread?) | 19:34 |
| UICTamale | https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg09012.html | 19:34 |
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| UICTamale | I just finished this part of the docs: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html | 19:36 |
| UICTamale | and successfully created a VM and assigned a floating-ip with the web interface | 19:36 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: where's the "it worked" ? | 19:36 |
| UICTamale | it's all working great | 19:36 |
| UICTamale | here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/962600/comments/3 | 19:36 |
| UICTamale | then replies #4 and #5 | 19:37 |
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| UICTamale | anyway, the last piece of our openstack puzzle for now is configuring libcloud to work with it | 19:38 |
| dolphm | have you tried authing with a real user? keystone --os_username=joe --os_password=secret catalog | 19:38 |
| UICTamale | yup, that's when I get the 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' error | 19:39 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: there must be a token/endpoint in your environment still | 19:39 |
| UICTamale | I'll check env | 19:39 |
| Diopter | phschwartz-rm: You might need to clear the lockfiles manually. I think they're in /var/nova/lock? | 19:40 |
| UICTamale | if I just do user / pass, it says I need an auth url | 19:41 |
| UICTamale | localhost:5000/v2.0 ? | 19:41 |
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| dolphm | UICTamale: that's would work for 'catalog', yes | 19:41 |
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| UICTamale | keystone --os_username=novauser --os_password=secret --os_auth_url http://localhost:5000/v2.0 catalog | 19:42 |
| UICTamale | No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.v2_0.client" | 19:42 |
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| dolphm | UICTamale: looks good, did you get a catalog? | 19:42 |
| UICTamale | no | 19:42 |
| UICTamale | that's all that was returned. | 19:42 |
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| dolphm | UICTamale: have you created any services/endpoints? | 19:43 |
| UICTamale | I sure thought so! | 19:43 |
| UICTamale | lol | 19:43 |
| UICTamale | aren't glance, nova, swift, enpoints? | 19:43 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: those are services ... did you register them in keystone? | 19:43 |
| s34n | when I try to create a volume in the dashboard, it sets the status to "Error." How can I see what the error was? | 19:44 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: keystone service-create, keystone endpoint-create | 19:44 |
| UICTamale | dolphm: I followed this guide: http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/step-4-install-and-configur | 19:44 |
| UICTamale | digging through it now to see if I already entered the service-create commands. | 19:44 |
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| UICTamale | interesting - that guide never mentions registering the services. | 19:45 |
| UICTamale | :[ | 19:45 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: sure it does: http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/step-3-install-and-configur | 19:45 |
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| dolphm | UICTamale: endpoints.sh is theoretically doing it for you .. but the guide doesn't really explain what it's doing or how to verify the results | 19:46 |
| UICTamale | I see that now. | 19:46 |
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| UICTamale | I'll take a closer look at what that's doing to register my services to my new tenants | 19:47 |
| UICTamale | Do I understand correctly that every tenant registers every service? | 19:47 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: have you read the official docs? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuringservices.html | 19:47 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: not sure what you're asking | 19:48 |
| UICTamale | Yes, to some extent - when that guide failed me, I turned back to the official docs for re-creating tenants, users, and roles | 19:48 |
| UICTamale | then I was able to make a VM successfuly | 19:48 |
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| davepigott | UICTamale: Actually, this guy: http://networkstatic.net/2012/05/openstack-essex-installation-and-configuration-screencast-from-scratch/#comment-4199 is *way* better than the openstack official docs. He gets a lot of things wrong, but leads you through it line by line. | 19:49 |
| phschwartz-rm | Diopter: that looks like it was the issue. Now to get my iptables setup correctly for the metadata server and I should be good. | 19:49 |
| UICTamale | davepigott: This looks more like what I want/need - thank you! | 19:50 |
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| dolphm | davepigott: then why isn't he contributing to official docs? :P | 19:50 |
| davepigott | UICTamale: You're welcome. I'm still banging my head against the openstack door, but have a much more stable install because of him | 19:51 |
| UICTamale | I'm basically wondering what the association between tenants/users/roles and services are | 19:51 |
| davepigott | dolphm: I'm working on some updates based on his/my experiences. | 19:51 |
| UICTamale | do you just need ONE service tenant for an entire openstack setup? | 19:51 |
| dolphm | davepigott: awesome, good to hear | 19:51 |
| UICTamale | or do you need a separate one for each tenant | 19:51 |
| phschwartz-rm | Can anyone point me to an example iptables rule for setting up the metadata server routing? | 19:51 |
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| davepigott | dolphm: Maybe you can help with my final brick wall... | 19:52 |
| davepigott | dolphm: I have a control node and several compute nodes | 19:52 |
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| davepigott | dolphm: If an instance ends up on anything but the control node I can't ping or ssh to it. From anywhere | 19:53 |
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| davepigott | dolphm: See: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/204852 | 19:53 |
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| davepigott | UICTamale: Actually, the openstack docs explain that quite nicely, and lead you through it. Only problem is, one typo and everything falls apart | 19:54 |
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| davepigott | UICTamale: Having said that, I had to read the docs about five times to fully get it | 19:56 |
| UICTamale | davepigott: I'm getting the same feeling - I'm in read-through #2 or so myself and I think I have about 3 too many tenants lol | 19:57 |
| dolphm | davepigott: nothing in your config is "obviously" wrong to me ... have you pinged the mailing list? | 19:58 |
| davepigott | dolphm: No, just posted the question. What's the mailing list addy? | 19:58 |
| phschwartz-rm | Does this iptables rule look correct for setting up the metadata routing. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination $NOVA_API_IP:8773 | 19:59 |
| UICTamale | davepigott: I might not be any help yet, but adding nova-compute to my other physical servers is my very next step, so hopefully I'll either have what you're trying to do working myself or be stuck in the same boat :) | 19:59 |
| dolphm | davepigott: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo | 19:59 |
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| dolphm | davepigott: https://launchpad.net/~openstack | 20:01 |
| UICTamale | Ok, I'm getting somewhere. I can successfully run service-list now, and I get: keystone, swift, glance, nova, volume, and ec2 | 20:02 |
| UICTamale | Now, do I need a specific ROLE for ec2 access? | 20:03 |
| davepigott | dolphm: Thanks! | 20:03 |
| UICTamale | because when I role-list, I don't see anything about ec2. | 20:03 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: roles are completely up to you | 20:03 |
| UICTamale | oh, wow | 20:03 |
| davepigott | UICTamale: Trust me. I've re-installed Linux and OpenStack many times. Burned lots of LVMs. Sometimes going back to the roots is the only way | 20:04 |
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| UICTamale | davepigott: Yah, I fully expect to start over myself once I get this all working once :) | 20:05 |
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| davepigott | UICTamale: You might have to do that *before* you get it working. :) | 20:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033639 in swift "HEAD request does not return correct content type" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033639 | 20:06 |
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| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: the rule nova-network creates for me uses nova-network-PREROUTING and port 8775 instead of 8773 | 20:08 |
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| phschwartz-rm | albert23: does this look similar http://paste2.org/p/2096703? | 20:09 |
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| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: yep. that's it | 20:09 |
| UICTamale | dolphm: Aha!! I got it! | 20:10 |
| UICTamale | I had *some* of the right env vars, but not all of them. | 20:10 |
| phschwartz-rm | Yeah, even with that I get: 2012-08-06 20:10:23,090 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254' failed: http error [404] | 20:10 |
| UICTamale | Looks like I needed *everything* except the service_token and service_endpoint ones | 20:10 |
| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: with one difference: I have 1 reference. Looks like you don;t use that rule anywhere? | 20:11 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: that's what i suggested in one of the threads you linked | 20:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | notmyname: congrats on the swift release | 20:11 |
| dolphm | UICTamale: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/962600/comments/3 | 20:11 |
| UICTamale | right, but I didn't realize I had to have the other variables still | 20:12 |
| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: nova-network-PREROUTING is used in chain PREROUTING | 20:12 |
| phschwartz-rm | albert23: I am not sure. I am just following the comments on the FlatManager source stating that the routing needs to be setup outside of nova as it doesn't do any setup in FlatManger mode. | 20:12 |
| UICTamale | I started with a blank slate | 20:12 |
| UICTamale | and added everything via arguments | 20:12 |
| UICTamale | so - now that I CAN connect to this, can you better explain why those vars being set changes the behavior of the command? | 20:13 |
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| UICTamale | is a 'catalog' list a list of all services, and specifying a particular SERVICE_TOKEN doesn't grant you permission to view other services? | 20:14 |
| phschwartz-rm | albert23: that was it. I added a reference to it in PREROUTING and on start of instances: found data source: DataSourceEc2 | 20:14 |
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| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: aha, nice! | 20:15 |
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| phschwartz-rm | albert23: now to figure out how to get routing correctly setup so the vm's can access the outside world. | 20:16 |
| phschwartz-rm | And so the outside world can get to them. lol | 20:17 |
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| phschwartz-rm | I wish I could get the FlatDHCPManager working with an already created bridge. It would make things much easier. | 20:17 |
| ev0ldave | phschwarz-rm: paste your network interface config and nova.conf | 20:18 |
| albert23 | phschwartz-rm: something like -A nova-network-snat -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.1.225 ? (but note I am using vlans) | 20:18 |
| ev0ldave | you shouldn't need to create a bridge, nova should do that for you | 20:19 |
| ev0ldave | in nova.conf you tell it the bridge name and the ethernet port to create the bridge on | 20:19 |
| ev0ldave | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19991/ | 20:20 |
| phschwartz-rm | ev01dave: The nodes have bridges already created due to other software on them. | 20:21 |
| phschwartz-rm | http://paste2.org/p/2096713 nova.conf | 20:21 |
| phschwartz-rm | sysconfig scripts for networking: http://paste2.org/p/2096715 | 20:21 |
| joebaker | Deduplication of RAM. Does KVM support Dedupe? | 20:21 |
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| phschwartz-rm | ev01dave: also note, I am restricted to one nic at this time due to switch space. | 20:22 |
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| UICTamale | zomg it works! libcloud + openstack :D | 20:23 |
| phschwartz-rm | I have a public ip ranage 10.173.16.0/24 with the first 48 ip's reserved for the physical nodes. | 20:23 |
| joebaker | I'm interested in using LXC in our datacenter. | 20:23 |
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| ev0ldave | joebaker: linux 2.6.32 does this and kvm does make use of it | 20:24 |
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| UICTamale | The kicker for me (not sure if this will help anyone else) - is that ec2 credentials aren't like roles at all - you just have to run keystone with the proper CLIENT credentials when you actually run ec2-credentials-create - far as I can tell there's no way to say "list all users with ec2 credentials", you just query the ec2 credentials AS a particular client user to see if you have them or not. | 20:24 |
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| joebaker | Thanks ev0ldave! | 20:24 |
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| ev0ldave | joebaker: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32 | 20:26 |
| ev0ldave | since each kvm instance is a separate process it will make use of that feature | 20:27 |
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| joebaker | I sat in on a presentation from JoyentCloud and they were talking about the introspection feature SmartOS and DTrace gives them. Does linux have anything like DTrace yet for this feature they call introspection for troubleshooting hotspots in the code? | 20:31 |
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| ev0ldave | sorry, i dont know | 20:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033670 in nova "attach volume fails with n-vol using iscsi since 1ba3dfec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033670 | 21:25 |
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| Glace | ke4qqq: ping | 21:30 |
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| UICTamale | if I get a 'Not authorized for image ...' on one of my compute nodes, does that correlate to the credentials provided in /etc/nova/api-paste.ini ? | 21:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033673 in nova "send_arp_for_ha flag does not support multiple gratuitous arp's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033673 | 21:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033675 in nova "Nova dhcp_domain flag overwrites the dnsmasq config file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033675 | 21:36 |
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| s34n | how do you restart devstack cinder? | 21:41 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: ping | 21:53 |
| jgriffith | s34n: pong | 21:54 |
| s34n | jgriffith: devstack sets up cinder with a volume group of stack-volumes. I can change that incinder.conf, but how do I restart cinder with the new setting? | 21:56 |
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| warik | does anyone ever tried MultiScheduler ? | 21:59 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: I haven't figured out how to restart the cinder-volume service without unstacking | 22:18 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: hmm... it looks like I can set a VOLUME_GROUP variable in localrc for devstack | 22:25 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: that worked to set the vg. But horizon still fails to create volumes. | 22:30 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Hmmm... doing it live without unstacking is a bit more tricky | 22:31 |
| s34n | jgriffith: I unstacked | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Ok, unstacked and modified ENABLED_SERVICES? | 22:31 |
| s34n | the new stack had the cinder.conf set correctly | 22:31 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Right, but if you were running n-vol you must've changed them | 22:32 |
| s34n | I didn't change ENABLED_SERVICES | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Sounds like you have it covered | 22:32 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Default you don't have to, just didn't know how you got to where you are | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | s34n: So are you having problems getting it to run? | 22:32 |
| s34n | jgriffith: horizon fails to create new volumes | 22:33 |
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| s34n | it sets the status to Error, but doesn't have a way to display error info | 22:33 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Hmmm... Oh, I may know why | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Anything in the c-vol logs? | 22:34 |
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| s34n | I can't find the logs | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | screen -x | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | Then you can 'ctrl-a n' until you get to the c-vol tab | 22:34 |
| s34n | ok. I haven't figured out screen yet. | 22:34 |
| s34n | got it | 22:35 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: there's a dump scrolling off my screen | 22:37 |
| s34n | jgriffith: below that it says, 'Stderr: "tgtadm: can't send the request to the tgt daemon, Transport endpoint is not connected\n"' | 22:37 |
| jgriffith | s34n: you can do 'ctrl-a [' to scroll up and copy | 22:38 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Then throw what you can into a paste for me and I'll have a look when I get a minute | 22:38 |
| jgriffith | s34n: BTW, can you try something in the meantime? | 22:39 |
| jgriffith | s34n: 'source ~/devstack/openrc;cinder create 1' | 22:40 |
| s34n | jgriffith: does this help? http://paste.openstack.org/show/19994/ | 22:40 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Yep, that helps :) | 22:40 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Ok, so there are some things that are currently being changed with iscsi | 22:42 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: you're running into a problem becuase nova is updated, but the patch for cinder hasn't landed yet | 22:42 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Everything works fine when you do a fresh install of one or the other, but trying to go from one to the other right now is kinda ugly | 22:42 |
| jgriffith | s34n: What you can do... | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | s34n: 'screen -x' 'ctrl-a :quit' | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Then run unstack.sh again (sorry) | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Then, to be safe, I'd blow away EVERYTHING (you can do it surgically but the beuty of devstack is it's easy enough to start over | 22:44 |
| jgriffith | s34n: so do: 'rm -rf /opt/stack; rm -rf /etc/nova; rm -rf /etc/cinder' | 22:44 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Then you need to make sure the "old" targets are gone, try: '/usr/sbin/tgtd stop; /usr/sbin/tgtd start' | 22:45 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Then to make sure, do a 'sudo tgt-admin --dump' You shouldn't get any devices listed | 22:46 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: there are no tgt processes. tgt-admin can't send the request. so that looks clean, right? | 22:48 |
| s34n | jgriffith: so I'm all unstacked | 22:48 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Umm... that means tgtd isn't running I think | 22:48 |
| s34n | right. it isn't running | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | s34n: So do a /usr/sbin/tgtd start | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Then run the dump command again | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | s34n: There was a problem I saw in the past where the /dev/ device files weren't getting cleaned up | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Actually, if you did the delete on /opt/stack it shouldn't matter, you can just do a reboot that should more than guarantee things for you | 22:50 |
| s34n | jgriffith: ok. --dump comes back blank | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Shouldn't be necessary, should be able to just run ./stack.sh again | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Excellent! | 22:50 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: ./stack.sh and you should be good | 22:50 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: ok. that worked. | 22:58 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: sweet | 22:58 |
| jgriffith | s34n: It won't be so painful to switch in the future | 22:59 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: In fact I'm working on a tool to do it for you right now :) | 22:59 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: does the horizon UI change if I have attached storage with a driver it knows? | 23:00 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Not sure what you mean? You mean if you "switch" does the old stuff go away in Horizon? The answer to that is "no" | 23:00 |
| s34n | jgriffith: I don't know what "switch" means. | 23:01 |
| s34n | jgriffith: oh. that's right. only one type of storage at a time, right? | 23:01 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Fair enough, why don't I let you explain what you're asking before I confuse you | 23:01 |
| jgriffith | s34n: yes, nova or cinder | 23:01 |
| s34n | I mean lvm or brand z or ... | 23:02 |
| s34n | cinder can't manage volumes of more than one type, right? | 23:03 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Not yet, but it hopefully will soon | 23:03 |
| jgriffith | s34n: So Horizon doesn't "know" or care about the driver necessarily (from the UI perspective) | 23:03 |
| s34n | right | 23:03 |
| jgriffith | s34n: It's doing queries via the API's regardless of the driver | 23:04 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: I'm guessing there is a better place than http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/ to jump in? | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | s34n: yeah, that's not overly helpful right now | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Another thing on my long TODO list this week | 23:09 |
| jgriffith | s34n: The short answer right now is, it's the same as Nova | 23:09 |
| jgriffith | s34n: You can even use 'nova volume-list' etc still | 23:09 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: From a "user" perspective you don't necessarily have to even know about Cinder for the most part | 23:10 |
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| ewindisch | russellb: I didn't get a response when I asked earlier - how are you doing your common->nova merges? They're not based on update.py or submodules, as far as I can tell? | 23:23 |
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| ewindisch | (although this happens to be the wrong window...) | 23:23 |
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