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mnaser | nova stop deletes the vm with xenserver? is there a way to make it just shutdown? | 00:58 |
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jesse_ | Hey there, I'm thinking that setting up a personal cloud infrastructure is a good idea (and a good way to pool the few computers I have around the house) have any of you done this? anyone have a recommendation for a doc or configuration to get started? | 02:25 |
jesse_ | I'm looking at http://wiki.openstack.org/GetOpenStack and http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallInstructions | 02:25 |
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marcus | hi all. if i want to connect to openstack using the api, do i directly connect against nova, or always against keystone (assuming keystone is available)? | 07:02 |
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moj0rising | Hello. I'm having some trouble spinning up my first VM in OpenStack. I get this error in the nova-scheduler log: WARNING nova.scheduler.manager [req-6be4d30b-1282-4b3e-925a-75b970bb3eea 1ded328b317747ce9e650257bd1969b0 383af557531c426e87f8d9288c459f1f] Setting instance 44eb34ec-9d25-4c16-a559-cadf5adf5e8e to ERROR state. | 07:25 |
moj0rising | Can anyone tell me what eh issue might be? I've checked the docs and Google but haven't found anything applicable to my situation. | 07:25 |
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foexle | heyho guys | 08:18 |
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judu | Hi | 09:20 |
judu | Just to now ('cause it's not really explicit): if I use the FlatNetworkManager, can I use the multi_host feature | 09:21 |
judu | ? | 09:23 |
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judu | And beside that, what is the 'host' field in the networks table? When I boot an instance specifying a network uuid, I get an error : "No Host for network" -> What (and how, apart from updating the bdd record) should I put there? | 09:25 |
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gongys | hi, who can tell me where glance API v2.0 spec is? | 09:53 |
tty | correct me if i am wrong. glance registry, store adapter, glance api and store object belong in the Storage project? | 09:57 |
tty | #documentation | 09:57 |
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tty | 2. nova api, nova scedulerm, nova compute, nova volume and Queue belong to the Compute project? | 09:59 |
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tty | 3. nova network belongs to the Networking project.? | 09:59 |
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tty | so i am right, right? | 10:06 |
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tty | making some last changes at 2 images i made for page7 here. http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/os-compute-starterguide-trunk.pdf | 10:09 |
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tty | trying to color-group the components | 10:09 |
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dudou | /wc | 10:16 |
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foexle | judu: yes you can use HA feature with multi_host | 10:23 |
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foexle | tty: 1) yes, 2) yes, 3) no :) .... networking, vnc and so on its all "nova". But melange and quantum are the "advanced" network projects for openstack | 10:26 |
tty | foexle: thanks ;) | 10:28 |
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tty | i didn't put a license on these two images? should I? I need no copyright. | 10:33 |
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tty | darn. every image on the docs by this csscorp thing is missing. | 11:06 |
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tty | anyway if anyone thinks i should mark somehow the images as copyrighted or cc-licensed or gel-licensed let me know. | 11:12 |
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tty | btw if anyone here has some authority on how comments appear on the online documentation consider of changing the discuss theme of the commenting system to a more minimal design. i think there is a much better theme than the one currently used. | 11:14 |
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tty | cc: annegentle | 11:15 |
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tty | btw the images mentioned before relate to #bug 1015561 | 11:20 |
_et | tty: link? | 11:20 |
tty | _et: link to what? the comments? | 11:20 |
tty | or the bug? | 11:20 |
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_et | tty: the bug | 11:21 |
tty | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstackbook/+bug/1015561 | 11:21 |
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_et | tty: George Tsiolis has recommended some diagrams that put me to shame :P | 11:25 |
tty | _et: why is that so? | 11:25 |
_et | because they're super awesome compared to mine.. | 11:26 |
tty | _et: heh. thanks ;) | 11:26 |
_et | tty: that is you?? | 11:26 |
tty | yes. :P | 11:27 |
_et | tty: dude, you've got some skills! | 11:27 |
_et | and creativity.. | 11:27 |
_et | tty: license? vector source? | 11:27 |
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tty | well, i don't mind about license. that's why i asked if it is required to license them CC or GPL. | 11:29 |
_et | tty: If you have the SVG's you can Public Domain them and put them on openclipart repos. | 11:30 |
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_et | tty: if you want attribution, go for free-art license or CC_BY | 11:30 |
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_et | tty: www.artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ | 11:31 |
_et | tty: BTW, I can vectorize them if you want | 11:32 |
judu | foexle: I'm trying to manage a 2 hosts openstack cluster, with multi_host and FlatManager (NOT FlatDHCPManager). On the host that is only running compute and network, the services run well, but the nova-manager keeps telling me that they are 'XXX' instead of ':-)'. I don't see anything in the logs… | 11:32 |
judu | Where should I look to know why nova-manager sees them as down. | 11:33 |
tty | _et: at the moment what I mind about is having a decent online openstack documentation without missing images :P | 11:36 |
_et | tty: I know.. I thought I'd just sit my ass down, stop being lazy and refactor the content. | 11:37 |
foexle | judu: check you nova.conf on your compute node | 11:37 |
judu | foexle:Â check it for what ? | 11:37 |
foexle | it seems the compute node can't tell with rabbitmq and nova api | 11:37 |
foexle | you get only :-) if the compute node sends an alive signal. Check your logs on the compute node | 11:38 |
foexle | you will find the issue there | 11:38 |
foexle | judu: do you have run on both machines nova-network ? | 11:39 |
judu | I have two compute node: one on the same host as nova-api, scheduler and all, and the (not working) one on the other host. In the logs of the latter one, I get the "Connected to AMQP on host 192.168.0.28" | 11:40 |
foexle | judu: and nova-compute | 11:40 |
foexle | and you have only one AMQP server ? :) | 11:40 |
judu | foexle: I'm trying to use multi_host. The docs tells me that I need nova-network running on all compute nodes for that. | 11:40 |
foexle | judu: yeah thats right ... if you use more then one network-manager | 11:41 |
judu | I have only one AMQP server, and nova-compute tells me the same (connected to amqp server…) | 11:41 |
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judu | "if you use more then one network-manager" -> Which means ? | 11:41 |
foexle | judu: nova-network on both machines ? | 11:41 |
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foexle | judu: are all services in "xxx" on the 2. machine ? | 11:42 |
foexle | +state | 11:42 |
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judu | Yep, the compute and the network one. | 11:42 |
foexle | judu: check your database connection ... do you have grant permissions for the db user and host ? | 11:43 |
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foexle | judu: rabbitmq = ok, database-connection = ?, nova-api-communication = ? | 11:43 |
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foexle | all these things you will need to run a service and correct configured network :D | 11:44 |
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judu | foexle: How do I check the database connection inside the compute/network service ? | 11:45 |
foexle | judo: mysql -p -u "dbuser" -h "host" ;) from the 2. host | 11:46 |
judu | Ok, that works | 11:46 |
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foexle | where is the db running ? on host 1 ? | 11:46 |
judu | and for nova-api? What endpoint should I curl? | 11:46 |
judu | Yep, on host 1, and I reach it. | 11:47 |
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foexle | http://<ip>:8773/services/Cloud | 11:47 |
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foexle | or https whatever | 11:47 |
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foexle | how do you have configured your mysql connection on the 2. host ? | 11:48 |
foexle | in nova.conf ? | 11:48 |
judu | It's a postgres, and it's the same as on the first host :Â --sql_connection=postgresql://foo:bar@192.168.0.28/nova | 11:49 |
judu | (where .28 is the ip of the first host) | 11:49 |
judu | (from the host 1. I access the database by the same ip (the "external" one) | 11:49 |
judu | ) | 11:49 |
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foexle | judu: hmm hmm ... can you post your config in gist or pastebin ? and please anonymized ;) | 11:54 |
foexle | from the 2. host | 11:54 |
judu | Not a problem. I just read that I need the nova-api service running on each compute node to have the multi_host. Does that mean that I need to set the ec2_url on node 2. to the node 2. url? | 11:56 |
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foexle | judu: you need only the complete nova-api stack on one machine ... the 2. host (only comute and network) needs only nova-api-metadata | 11:57 |
foexle | judu: yes the ec2_url mus set on all hosts | 11:58 |
foexle | +t | 11:58 |
judu | foexle: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RDWsWFF6 | 11:59 |
judu | So on the node 1. I set the --enabled_apis to everything I need, and just metadata on the host 2.. | 12:00 |
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foexle | ec2_url should be the public url, ec2_host the same; do you have warnings/crits or errors in your log (2. host) ? | 12:05 |
foexle | judu: add --verbose in your nova.conf | 12:06 |
judu | foexle: in the compute logs? | 12:06 |
foexle | judu: compute and network | 12:06 |
judu | Ok | 12:07 |
tty | _et: i don't mind about vectorizing at the moment. i ll think about it. Note: I used some icons i ve bought in the past. as for the license, as long as nothing specific is required by the parent project (openstack) i don't mind whether the license is GPL, CC or Beerware or sth. that's why i asked if there is a suggested license for the images at docs.openstack.org | 12:07 |
judu | foexle: the public url, but the url of which API? the metadata one running on the same host, on the main api? | 12:08 |
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foexle | judu: you need only metadata to boot UCI instances | 12:13 |
foexle | judu: and the "complete" api to manage your cloud | 12:14 |
foexle | so the ec2_url must map to the main api server | 12:14 |
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hugokuo2 | Why that so many arp_cache usage in Swift Storage node ? | 12:15 |
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_et | tty: ok. | 12:16 |
judu | Ok | 12:19 |
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_et | tty: thx. gotta go. | 12:22 |
foexle | judu: UEC images ... sry | 12:22 |
tty | _et: cu around ;) | 12:22 |
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judu | foexle: I get nothing but debug and info in the logs… | 12:24 |
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alex88 | hi guys, if i configure shared storage for virtual machines to enable HA, is possible to store some vm in the shared storage and some on a non shared one? to some can be HA others not? | 12:26 |
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foexle | judu: thats strange ... normally you will get any message like "can't connect" or "can't update" or something like this | 12:27 |
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foexle | alex88: what you mean with shared storage ? .... you boot your vms from iscsi ? | 12:28 |
alex88 | foexle: yup, that's what i mean, to use live migration etc | 12:28 |
alex88 | but i want if it's possible to use vm also on host disk, because i don't need all vm to be live migrated and i have much more space on hosts | 12:29 |
foexle | hmmm so you have different base-settings on compute nodes .... i'm not sure if you can overwrite this in the database | 12:29 |
alex88 | foexle: i'm just building up, still thinking if that's possible | 12:30 |
judu | foexle: Yep, that's why I'm here. I get "Connected to AMQP server on 192.168.0.28:5672" in both network and compute logs. | 12:30 |
foexle | if not, you can take a look to "regions" | 12:30 |
judu | But manage still tells me they are down | 12:30 |
alex88 | foexle: like? | 12:30 |
alex88 | different clouds? | 12:31 |
foexle | ip addr show ... all ip settings are right ? no double ip's in your network or double mac's ? | 12:31 |
foexle | alex88: yeah .... not complete cloud stacks different compute hosts, with diefferent settings .... maybe creating vm in region1 => iscsi boot, regon2 => normally boot | 12:32 |
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alex88 | foexle: no way to do one same hosts? i've only 3 machines | 12:33 |
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foexle | alex88: "no way" .... i wouldn't say NO WAY ;) .... but dont know an other way ... i'm sorry. Maybe an other guy here :) or write to the mailing list | 12:34 |
alex88 | thanks foexle ;) i'll try that :) | 12:35 |
foexle | alex88: ur welcome :) good luck | 12:35 |
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judu | foexle: No same mac or addresses… | 12:39 |
foexle | hmmm wtf ... and the communication between two hosts are working ? .... have no more idea | 12:40 |
judu | Yep, they both ping the other one | 12:41 |
judu | That's why I was here the first time ;) no more idea… | 12:42 |
judu | I have regular "nova.compute.manager [-] Updating host status" in compute logs, but nothing changes in the manage service list | 12:43 |
judu | foexle: by the way, is the service status stored in the database? | 12:44 |
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judu | 'cause I have a "disabled" in the services table (everything is false). Is that it? | 12:44 |
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judu | Oh f*** I think I found! | 12:45 |
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judu | The host 2. is like 2 minutes ahead host 1. | 12:46 |
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judu | cause it's like 14:46 on host 1, and in the database the host 2. services are last_updated at 14:48 >_< | 12:49 |
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foexle | judu: -.- :) | 12:50 |
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foexle | yeah ntp are importent in a distribute system | 12:50 |
melmoth | anyone knows wich doc to read to understand what roles are in keystone ? Wich one are mandatory, optionnal and how are they associated with privileges ? | 12:50 |
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annegentle | melmoth: from http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/keystone-concepts.html, "It is up to individual services such as the Compute service and Image service to assign meaning to these roles. As far as the Identity service is concerned, a role is simply a name." | 13:01 |
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annegentle | melmoth: that document gives you an idea of roles you could have | 13:02 |
annegentle | melmoth: meaning is set in /etc/nova/policy.json | 13:02 |
judu | foexle: thanks for supporting me ;) | 13:02 |
melmoth | annegentle i saw this doc, but still am puzzled. | 13:02 |
melmoth | then i found https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg11536.html | 13:02 |
melmoth | and it s the first time i hear about policy.json | 13:03 |
annegentle | melmoth: Lorin wrote the above doc and that mailing list message | 13:03 |
melmoth | wich seems to be where the role are defined. I happen to have several such file on my manager node. | 13:03 |
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judu | While you're here, I have another question: in the networks table what is the "host" record? When I try to boot an instance with --nic net-id=<my network uuid> I get the " Host is not set to the network (2)." | 13:04 |
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foexle | judu: if you don't set a host on startup then will set this the scheduler | 13:12 |
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melmoth | annegentle, ahah; the doc you mentionned makes much more sense to me when i read it to the end :) | 13:16 |
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foexle | i'm looking for an nfs pro :( | 13:18 |
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dm255029 | We have 1 nova node working correctly with networking, when I copy that nova.conf to the second nova node and add the parameter network_host = x.x.x.x the br100 on the second node doesn't get an IP but the guests created on the second node get an ip but are not pingable. | 13:36 |
dm255029 | Are there any reasons for this or any clear documentation on this? | 13:37 |
GiBa | hey guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS FOR OPENSTACK!!! it rocks! | 13:37 |
alex88 | glance is required only for storing images right? how much space would you reserve for it in a 3tb hdd? | 13:38 |
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dm255029 | alex88: that depends how big your images and snapshots are going to be | 13:38 |
dm255029 | We have 1.2 TB for images and snapshots and we are starting with 6 nodes | 13:39 |
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alex88 | dm255029: so for one node with just templates, 10gb is enough | 13:39 |
dm255029 | I think so, images are usually around 1g depending on how you build them or where you get them. | 13:39 |
dm255029 | Ours are larger since we are building full baseline deployments and snapshoting them | 13:40 |
dm255029 | Does anyone have any insight on my networking issue? | 13:42 |
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foexle | alex88: my images are stored in s3 | 13:43 |
foexle | sorry | 13:43 |
foexle | swift ;) | 13:44 |
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dm255029 | We didn't use switf because of the hardware requirements, we will implement later. | 13:44 |
alex88 | foexle: yeh i know it's also possible that, but we're not going to use swift actually | 13:44 |
foexle | ah ok :) | 13:44 |
alex88 | just because i don't want to setup it just to store glance images :D | 13:45 |
foexle | yeah .... the right choice :) | 13:46 |
alex88 | someone will be here? http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/23566 | 13:46 |
alex88 | will it be streamed? | 13:46 |
foexle | other side of the atlantic :) | 13:47 |
alex88 | foexle: same for me :) but i just asked myself, how can i view it? :) | 13:47 |
alex88 | it would be interesting | 13:48 |
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nymous | hello. i have a question about cloudpipe | 14:35 |
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nymous | can i use it in flat network environment without dedicated ip for it's virtual machine? | 14:36 |
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alex88 | ohh finally a script to setup tenants users etc :D | 14:39 |
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alex88 | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html should i run both sample_data.sh and keystone-init.py? or just one of those? | 14:40 |
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heraclide | stupid question : is it possible to add volume to a VM which is out of /var/lib/nova/instances ? For example, let's say I need to add a 1Tb volume to a VM, and the only way I can do it is by adding a hard-drive to HyperVisor, would it work ? | 14:55 |
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dm255029 | Repost: We have 1 nova node working correctly with networking, when I copy that nova.conf to the second nova node and add the parameter network_host = x.x.x.x the br100 on the second node doesn't get an IP but the guests created on the second node get an ip but are not pingable. | 14:59 |
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nymous | dm255029: i've used to flush fixed_ips and recreate the network entry to overcome this issue | 15:04 |
nymous | dunno if there is any other solution | 15:04 |
dm255029 | We don't have any fixed IPs | 15:05 |
dm255029 | What defines what IP br100 will get on node 2? | 15:05 |
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nymous | it should be dhcp or something. it uses fixed_ips entries to store actual leases | 15:06 |
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nymous | i'm not sure, because i'm new to openstack, but it looks like | 15:07 |
dm255029 | ok I will try recreating the network | 15:07 |
nymous | i'm not sure if it would help, better try to release stale leases | 15:08 |
nymous | i didn't find any good solution for that except editing database by hand( | 15:08 |
nymous | i've also added force dhcp release to my conf | 15:09 |
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nymous | can anyone help with vnc settings? | 15:22 |
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gongys | hi, who can tell me where glance API v2.0 spec is? | 15:23 |
nymous | i have installed novnc and add options to nova.conf | 15:25 |
nymous | i've restarted compute on all hosts | 15:25 |
nymous | but it says dashboard says can't connect | 15:25 |
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halfss | is there anyone deploy openstack in ubuntu12.04? the bridge nic has droped many packets | 15:26 |
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nymous | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19366/ my conf bits | 15:29 |
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nymous | should i restart libvirt or edit some more confs? | 15:31 |
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nymous | ok, i managed to fix vnc :-/ | 15:50 |
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Dieterbe | guys/girls, i'm confused by the replication. i read the documentation a few times, and i find descriptions of how the ring is divided in partitions, and each partition is replicated N (default 3) times to so called replicas. if i understand correctly (but even that i'm not sure) you can have more replicas than you have zones (correct ?) | 17:26 |
Math | correct | 17:26 |
Dieterbe | and if replication level = 3, and a drive on a node fails, a 3rd replica must be created on some other node right? somebody told me here earlier that doesn't happen | 17:27 |
Math | no, it doesn't | 17:28 |
Dieterbe | the doc uses terminology like "choose an alternate node".. but doesn't say how this relates to replicas or zones | 17:28 |
Dieterbe | so if a drive fails, objects hosted on that drive will only be replicated once? | 17:29 |
Dieterbe | err. twice | 17:29 |
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Dieterbe | and if another drive that hosts that specific partition fails, objects of that partition are only available in 1 place anymore | 17:29 |
Math | then it is really time you start changing your drives for good ones | 17:30 |
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Math | there is an rsync deamon running in the backend. I don't know if it rebalances everything or recreate the replica when you cahnge the drive. | 17:31 |
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dm255029 | nymous: how did you fix vnc? | 17:46 |
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nymous | dm255029: i had wrong vncserver_proxyclient_address | 17:48 |
nymous | it should point to node's private network ip | 17:49 |
nymous | i've set it to controller host... and it was the cause | 17:49 |
dm255029 | so the br100 address or the nic address for br100? | 17:49 |
nymous | i've used private eth ip | 17:50 |
dm255029 | Ok I will try, thanks! | 17:50 |
nymous | seems like this info is sent to controller, so it is used to connect proxy to the correct node | 17:51 |
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nymous | don't forget to set vncserver_listen to listen the correct interface or 0.0.0.0 if you behind the hardware firewall | 17:52 |
dm255029 | What about the novncproxy_base_url and xvpncproxy_base_url ? | 17:52 |
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dm255029 | nymous: What are they set to? | 17:57 |
nymous | novncproxy_base_url = http://x.x.x.x:6080/vnc_auto.html | 17:58 |
nymous | xvpvncproxy_base_url = http://x.x.x.x:6081/console | 17:58 |
dm255029 | Which ip though | 17:58 |
nymous | x.x.x.x is the public ip of the host there this proxies are running | 17:58 |
dm255029 | ok thanks | 17:58 |
nymous | it could be FDQN hostname also | 17:59 |
nymous | if this node has one | 17:59 |
nymous | *FQDN | 17:59 |
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dm255029 | Trying it now, thanks | 18:01 |
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nymous | this link will be used in iframe in dashboard, so | 18:02 |
dm255029 | Still doesn't work | 18:04 |
viet_ | Hi. I'm looking for some help with devstack. Is this the right channel? | 18:04 |
dm255029 | I can never get a connection on 60680 | 18:04 |
dm255029 | 6081 I can but the token never works. | 18:04 |
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rcreasey | how do i remove a host from the nova aggregate? one of my cloud blades died and i want to rebuild it | 18:31 |
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rcreasey | or maybe I'm using the wrong terminology | 18:56 |
rcreasey | how do i remove a host from a nova pool? | 18:56 |
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jtran | rcreasey, i believe nova-manage help service | 18:59 |
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jtran | nova-manage service disable | 18:59 |
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rcreasey | aha, thanks | 19:06 |
rcreasey | but that just disables it | 19:08 |
rcreasey | I want to totally remove that host | 19:08 |
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jtran | rcreasey, that's a good question. i'm guessing db manipulation but checking | 19:22 |
jtran | rcreasey, ya i confirmed it has to be done thru db | 19:23 |
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liemmn | To use Swift formpost, do I need to use tempurl to generate the urls? | 19:37 |
liemmn | (sorry for the noob question on formpost) | 19:38 |
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BLZbubba_ | ok i'm trying to investigate a reboot that happened at 6:47 this morning. there is an audit of the request | 19:53 |
BLZbubba_ | but the first entry of this request is in the nova-network log file | 19:53 |
BLZbubba_ | 06:46:54 AUDIT nova.compute.manager [req-41b77e37-2b31-4392-a020-96de39580675 None None] Rebooting instance 155dcf68-48c5-4e8b-9680-35b05968e246 | 19:54 |
BLZbubba_ | how do I track this request back to see where it came from? | 19:54 |
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notmyname | liemmn: yes | 20:05 |
notmyname | liemmn: well, assuming you don't have open access to everything in your cluster | 20:05 |
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nymous | i do not have dedicated storage subsystem in my current install, only discs on the compute nodes (~15 nodes). i wish to share data across the compute field in most reliable manner, so crashing of a node wouldn't cause data loss. can you suggest me what to use in my case? | 20:08 |
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nymous | i mean, physical node dies completely, even disc. whatever, i just add another, start new virtual instances and they catch up data before fail | 20:11 |
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nymous | i'm thinking about swift, ceph or sheepdog. other options are lustre, gfs2 and store all data locally and rsync other night | 20:13 |
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notmyname | nymous: are you looking for block storage or shared storage or simply something to hold the images of each instance (eg backups)? | 20:14 |
nymous | currently, i need to "backup" data, produced by VMs | 20:16 |
nymous | VM backup by itself would be good too | 20:16 |
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nymous | shared storage might be a good option to have, to let several instances work together... but it's not mandatory right now | 20:18 |
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BLZbubba | nymous: are you more worried about equipment failure, or do you need the ability to go back in time | 20:50 |
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nymous | equip failure | 20:50 |
BLZbubba | ok that is a much easier problem to deal with | 20:51 |
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notmyname | nymous: (sorry, didn't see your response until now). if you are using nova, then glance + swift would probably meet your needs | 20:51 |
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BLZbubba | for my lab setup i have two linux nfs servers | 20:51 |
BLZbubba | with drbd and a floating IP address | 20:52 |
BLZbubba | so if one dies you can switch to the other and not lose anything | 20:52 |
BLZbubba | the trickiest part of failover so far is that each compute node stores some local libvirt files so it is a pain to bring up on a new machine | 20:53 |
BLZbubba | but that should be relatively easy to figure out | 20:53 |
nymous | my employer wish to have cheapest private cloud ever, but it should have insane reliability >_< | 20:53 |
BLZbubba | heh yeah that is always the trade off | 20:53 |
nymous | i though drbd is for 2 device setup only | 20:54 |
nymous | *thought | 20:54 |
BLZbubba | yeah i have 2 nfs servers, one is the real one and the other is in case the first one goes titsup | 20:54 |
BLZbubba | just linux machines with a few sas disks and kernel nfs | 20:55 |
erkules | moin going to play with openstack. http://devstack.org/ looks like a good starting point. I would like to run it in kvm. There is no 'minimal' storage-requirements. Are there some tips? | 20:55 |
BLZbubba | seems to do a good job so far | 20:55 |
nymous | notmyname: i've read swift uses local system + rsyncd. should it be more reliable than ceph? | 20:55 |
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BLZbubba | how much data do you have? | 20:56 |
BLZbubba | rsync is a pain with big files | 20:56 |
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BLZbubba | i have been happy with glance except for some NBD issues | 20:56 |
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nymous | i can't say right now( | 20:57 |
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notmyname | nymous: swift is a lot more than "local system + rsyncd" :-) | 20:58 |
BLZbubba | well you should start simple, swift is probably overkill | 20:58 |
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nymous | simplest solution is "local system + rsyncd" | 20:58 |
nymous | i was looking into ceph, because it is said to be swift compatible | 20:59 |
BLZbubba | have you set up and tried openstack yet? | 21:00 |
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nymous | yes, i have it running | 21:00 |
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BLZbubba | ok | 21:01 |
notmyname | nymous: what is ceph getting you that you don't get with swift? | 21:01 |
BLZbubba | i guess it depends on how much time you can have for recovery | 21:01 |
Glacee | notmyname: block storage on top with rbd ;) | 21:02 |
nymous | i've used to run ibm gpfs on ~200 node cluster and it was cool >_< but not gonna happen in my current case | 21:02 |
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BLZbubba | easiest would be glance for images & snapshots and just copy those files over regularly | 21:02 |
BLZbubba | and snapshot vms regularly | 21:02 |
notmyname | Glacee: ya, I know they have block storage, but that doesn't sound like a requirement here :-) | 21:02 |
BLZbubba | or else drbd if you need up to the minute backups | 21:02 |
Glacee | thats the only advantage I would see so far notmyname, swift seems faster and more performant for objects store.. I am not sure you can do replications based on AZ in ceph | 21:03 |
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nymous | it doesn't have FS front-end, afaik | 21:03 |
nymous | hey, another question... can i use cloudpipe in flat network mode? | 21:05 |
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nymous | i do not have any free public ips except for controller node one | 21:06 |
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nymous | i have a working image of it, but dunno what to do next | 21:08 |
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liemmn | Thanks, notmyname... So, where would my tempurl go in the form? In the swift_url action or in the name of each file to be uploaded? Do I need a separate tempurl for each file I want to upload in the form? I think an example here would be awesome. | 22:03 |
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notmyname | liemmn: I've got an email I need to respond to that asks the exact same question. let me see if I can put together a quick example and kill 2 birds with 1 stone | 22:04 |
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liemmn | Thanks much, notmyname | 22:05 |
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notmyname | liemmn: have you read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/misc.html#module-swift.common.middleware.formpost? | 22:14 |
notmyname | liemmn: so I may have told you wrong. I don't think tempurl is required for formpost, but they just do similar things | 22:15 |
notmyname | liemmn: heh, I think the email I have is actually from you :-) | 22:16 |
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liemmn | notmyname: yes, I sent you an email on it too :) | 22:21 |
liemmn | sorry | 22:21 |
notmyname | liemmn: so let's work on it in here. | 22:22 |
liemmn | ok, looking at the code, it does not appear to require tempurl urls, yet the release notes mentioned using tempurl urls for the target url... I think that's the source of confusion for me. | 22:23 |
liemmn | "The new formpost and tempurl middleware modules allow a swift user to create a URL with write access and then use that URL as the target of an HTML form POST"... My bad interpretation then. | 22:23 |
liemmn | http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Essex | 22:23 |
notmyname | liemmn: looks like I worded that poorly | 22:24 |
liemmn | notmyname... No problem... Thanks again for the clarification... | 22:24 |
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binyamin | Does anyone have a really good site for examples of the swift configs? | 23:13 |
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binyamin | I have swift 90% setup but when I try to auth against keystone .. just pisses on itself. | 23:13 |
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