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| tongli | folks, having some problems when start a VM, got an error like this one the nova-compute node. wondering if anyone out there can give me a helping hand | 00:59 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1022804 in quantum "Address re-allocation before DHCP lease's expire" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022804 | 03:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1022805 in quantum "DHCP server port does not reflect subnets created after process launched" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022805 | 04:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1022806 in quantum "dhcp agent does not work with linux bridge" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022806 | 04:16 |
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| chuey | Does anyone here have a xenapi enable image or can point me to one? | 04:22 |
| chuey | s/enable/enabled/ | 04:22 |
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| thinrhino | I am trying to deploy quantum | 05:43 |
| thinrhino | and see the following error http://pastebin.com/AbQyRB3R on in the openvswitch logfile /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log | 05:45 |
| thinrhino | and not able to understand why the port is not available after creation | 05:45 |
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| moj0rising | Hello! When I try "nova keypair-add --pub_key id_rsa.pub key1" to add my ssh key, I get this output: "ERROR: You must provide a username via either --os_username or env[OS_USERNAME]" Can anyone tell me why that might be? | 07:25 |
| moj0rising | I googled and checked various instructions and it seems I'm doing things correctly though I must not ne since I'm getting this error. | 07:26 |
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| moj0rising | Ah! I found the problem. I'll print it here for the logs for future googlers... | 07:39 |
| moj0rising | In continuing my own Google search, I actually found this #openstack irc log from May: http://irclogs.osds.cogitat.io/2012/05May/irc.freenode.net_%23openstack/02Wednesday.txt It says to make sure the environment variables are loaded. | 07:40 |
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| moj0rising | Mine were not since I had logged off and back on since I first loaded them. I'll fix this permanently by putting them in my bash profile file. | 07:41 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, someone achieved some vm HA config using pacemaker or anything else? | 09:42 |
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| Vivek | Hi, are there any known guides on openstack hardening ? | 09:51 |
| Vivek | koolhead11: Hi | 09:52 |
| alex88 | Vivek: first of all, i permit only incoming connections to port 80 | 09:53 |
| Vivek | alex88: ok | 09:54 |
| alex88 | Vivek: api calls are done within the api so internal, floating ip works because of dnat is on preroute | 09:54 |
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| alex88 | *within the vpn | 09:54 |
| Vivek | ok. | 09:54 |
| alex88 | a must is to use another rabbitmq user/password.. guest/guest is not a secure one :) | 09:54 |
| Vivek | alex88: Why don't your document all this somewhere ? | 09:55 |
| alex88 | Vivek: because i'm still trying to have a perfect install, then i'll re-do from beginning and write a blog post for sure | 09:55 |
| Vivek | ok. | 09:55 |
| Vivek | alex88: At this point I am looking for a guide that can harden openstack, so that I can give it to my deployment guys with ready made steps. I am parallely working of AMI and application level hardening, but that is another area. | 09:57 |
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| Vivek | What I find lacking is documentation on hardening openstack itself. | 09:57 |
| alex88 | yup it is, btw i haven't found anything about hardening in the docs | 09:57 |
| halfss | is there any way to change kvm name without restart it? | 09:57 |
| Vivek | Apart from the default groups and related permissions. | 09:58 |
| Vivek | Yea that is the point. | 09:58 |
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| alex88 | i don't think it's everything secure by default, it's difficult to setup, i hardly think it's also secure by default | 09:58 |
| Vivek | Yea, it becomes hard to pitch it as a secure platforms, because from what I understand from interacting with CIOs and people at that level, security is still a concern mostly at the host/hypevisor level. | 10:00 |
| Vivek | s/platforms/platform | 10:00 |
| alex88 | it is, also because openstack is not a simple service, it has a pretty big area of attack due the number of services, listening ports etc | 10:02 |
| Vivek | ok. | 10:02 |
| alex88 | after that you should also secure it internally, as a backdoored vm can talk directly to openstack | 10:02 |
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| Vivek | Yea, I am almost getting there to secure at that level, just the hypervisor/host woes. | 10:03 |
| Vivek | Say if there is a bridged interface which multiple guests are using anyone having root or admin access on the host can access that data which is a concern. Because on AWS or OpenStack, all I own is the instance and just have control over that instance. | 10:05 |
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| hsenid | heya.. im tryng for openstack security. | 10:13 |
| hsenid | writing a paper on it.. guys here have any whitepapers or such? | 10:13 |
| hsenid | can u point me to something? | 10:14 |
| Vivek | hsenid: none exists at this moment. | 10:14 |
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| Vivek | hsenid: I'am curious as to what kind of openstack setup you have when you are attempting such a whitepaper. | 10:15 |
| hsenid | Vivek: sad... I remember seeing something somewhere.. hoped that someone here would point me to it.. | 10:15 |
| hsenid | Vivek: are you a developer? | 10:15 |
| Vivek | hsenid: I know OpenFly had documented something on those lines. | 10:16 |
| Vivek | hsenid: I am not an OpenStack developer, but my team has developed the OpenStack beginners guide. | 10:16 |
| hsenid | really?? | 10:16 |
| Vivek | hsenid: OpenFly's is more like a whishlist. | 10:17 |
| hsenid | Vivek: your team? that's awesome.. you guys did a great job there.. | 10:17 |
| Vivek | Thanks. | 10:17 |
| hsenid | Vivek: do you have a datacenter deployed. | 10:17 |
| Vivek | hsenid: http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/openstackbookv3-0_csscorp2.pdf | 10:18 |
| Vivek | hsenid: Yes, we have a small lab setup here but I am not at a liberty to ahead and tell you the setup here. | 10:18 |
| hsenid | Vivek: I'm following that guide for my paper.. | 10:18 |
| Vivek | ok. | 10:18 |
| Vivek | Nice. | 10:18 |
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| hsenid | Vivek: Have u worked on the security part yet? | 10:19 |
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| Vivek | I am working on that aspect yes. | 10:19 |
| Vivek | It is a work in progress. | 10:19 |
| hsenid | can you share it? | 10:20 |
| Vivek | Not at this point as I have not published it yet. | 10:20 |
| Vivek | But you expect it soon. | 10:20 |
| hsenid | oh... when is the next version of the openstack book due? | 10:21 |
| Vivek | We schedule the release the book along with Ubuntu releases. | 10:21 |
| hsenid | Vivek: I'm really having trouble with Swift... No matter what I try, I dont seem to upload any files.. | 10:21 |
| hsenid | always container 0 objct 0 account 0 | 10:21 |
| hsenid | any ideas? | 10:22 |
| ninkotech | hsenid: i would try uploading a file :) | 10:22 |
| Vivek | ok, are you following our guide ? | 10:22 |
| ninkotech | hsenid: and watch what it writes (including logs) | 10:22 |
| hsenid | ninkotech: i did.. i'm following the beginners guide. | 10:22 |
| hsenid | ninkotech: and getting swift to log to syslog is a problem by itself. | 10:23 |
| hsenid | Vivek: yes.. | 10:23 |
| hsenid | Vivek: any clues? | 10:24 |
| Vivek | hsenid: Not until i check the logs. | 10:24 |
| Vivek | Can you pastebin the logs please ? | 10:24 |
| hsenid | wait up... | 10:24 |
| hsenid | Vivek: which file does swift generally log? there's nothing about swift in syslog... | 10:25 |
| hsenid | Vivek: clues?? | 10:27 |
| Vivek | syslog | 10:28 |
| hsenid | No.. it's not in syslog.. no trace of swift logs there.. :( | 10:28 |
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| Vivek | ok. | 10:29 |
| hsenid | Vivek: so where are they?? *confused* | 10:30 |
| Vivek | I'll check and get back to you on this in a while. | 10:30 |
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| aswadrangnekar | I am running libvirt version 0.9.2. and have seen "libvirt-bin" service hangs quite often, i see a bug filed for this too on the url below. Any workaround this problem ? | 10:35 |
| aswadrangnekar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/931540 | 10:35 |
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| hsenid | Vivek: waiting | 10:41 |
| aswadrangnekar | @hsenid check the conf file for log location | 10:44 |
| Vivek | hsenid: I am not in the office right now, I'll check and revert back to you when I have access to the servers. | 10:45 |
| hsenid | ok | 10:48 |
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| Dieterbe_ | notmyname: i don't understand what you said about swift replication yesterday. when a disk fails, surely the replicator will replicate objects to other nodes/disks to satisfy the desired replication level, no? | 11:18 |
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| halfss | is there anyone develop openstack with mutlit zone or region? | 11:46 |
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| dusty_ | Morning everyone, anyone live? | 12:23 |
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| Dieterbe_ | yep | 12:24 |
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| dusty_ | I'm really new to openstack and I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on how to handle storage | 12:25 |
| Dieterbe_ | more specifically..? | 12:25 |
| dusty_ | I'd like to use my local storage in the cluster but I'm not sure what the best way to do so with openstack.. | 12:26 |
| dusty_ | Each node will have 5 SSD for fast storage and 3 large HDDs for slow | 12:26 |
| dusty_ | When I bought the HW, I thought KVM would have storage hypervisor style SANs available like VMware but turns out the ones I use don't perform in KVM | 12:27 |
| dusty_ | It looks like Openstack is really flexible when it comes to storage but I'm not sure which direction to look | 12:28 |
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| dm255029 | Does anyone know if there is a way to have iptables detect the hostname that is coming into nova's public ip address and then re-route the traffic for that hostname to a compute guest on a private network? Trying to avoid VPN. | 12:33 |
| dm255029 | It seems that amazon AWS is doing this. | 12:34 |
| dm255029 | But I don't know if they are using iptables or some sort of router/switch configuration. | 12:34 |
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| dm255029 | Is this something I would have to do with Open vSwitch and Quantum? | 12:46 |
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| cw | dusty_: Maybe you want to have a look at GluserFS? | 12:53 |
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| dusty_ | CW, I've read up on at it but I'm not sure about performance. I | 12:54 |
| dusty_ | Is it difficult to implement? | 12:54 |
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| cw | the performance is ok, implementation is very easy | 12:57 |
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| cw | it's a cheap way to get fault-tolerant shared storage | 12:58 |
| dusty_ | This article made me think there maybe some problems with it in production. I'm not sure if its a HW issue or this guy's implementation was bad. http://www.bauer-power.net/2012/03/bauer-power-iscsi-san-v2.html | 12:58 |
| cw | but I guess your SSD are a bit wasted on it. It uses fuse and therefore you loose some performance | 12:58 |
| dusty_ | I'm not a big fan of using Fuse to be honest | 12:59 |
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| cw | well, I'm not surprised he had problems. iscsi, zfs, glusterfs, all mixed together | 12:59 |
| cw | for me it's the perfect match of costs and output. we bought 4 dell server (8tb disk in a raid5, 128gb memory). no I have a 16tb gluster cluster with a lot of computing power (we run nova-compute on each gluster node too) | 13:01 |
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| cw | but to be honest, our workload is not very I/O bases neither i'ts performance critical | 13:01 |
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| dusty__ | Sorry I dropped off.. | 13:03 |
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| halfss | hi,is ther anyone develop openstack with multi zone or regoin?> | 13:06 |
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| dusty__ | halfss I'm new to openstack, I'm curious what you mean by multi zone. Do you mean different site locations? | 13:09 |
| halfss | yes | 13:09 |
| halfss | opestack support multi zone and region, but i don't know how to develop | 13:10 |
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| dusty__ | Sorry I can't help you but I have a similar need in my design. I'd like to have a hub and spoke between my datacenter and client sites. | 13:11 |
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| ewan_ | hi, anyone got any views on the size/skills of an ops team needed to run an openstack cloud as opposed to "standard" ops set up? | 13:12 |
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| dusty__ | The openstack documentation is very through but it seems to assume a certain level of knowledge about how the product works. | 13:13 |
| dusty__ | Are there any paid for tools that simplify implementation and management? | 13:13 |
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| dm255029 | Can dnsmasq route a hostname on a public IP to the same hostname on a private IP? | 13:17 |
| sgran | dusty_da_no0b: there is http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud | 13:17 |
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| dm255029 | I'm trying to use 1 public IP for multiple private IPs by hostname | 13:18 |
| dusty_da_no0b | dm254029 will these hosts be using different ports? | 13:19 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | FTp 21, HTTP 80 etc | 13:19 |
| dm255029 | They will be possibly using the same ports | 13:19 |
| dm255029 | We have a database cluster that will operate on the same ports | 13:20 |
| halfss | dm255029, how to do this? | 13:20 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I can't speak for openstack but I'm not sure how you would do this using TCP/IP | 13:20 |
| dusty_da_no0b | normally I'd use port forwarding to direct traffic to different servers and services | 13:21 |
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| dm255029 | It seems amazon AWS is doing this by setting up hostnames that are public and then route to internal IPs, kind of how Apache does vhosts | 13:21 |
| halfss | yes tcp do not have domaon info | 13:21 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | I would assume its done via a nat | 13:22 |
| dm255029 | I have about 50 users that I don't want to have to VPN into the cloud nor do I want to use the compute node as a jump server | 13:22 |
| dm255029 | Ok thanks guys I'll keep looking | 13:22 |
| dusty_da_no0b | but I'm not clear how you'd do that with different host names to the same IP address | 13:22 |
| dusty_da_no0b | whats the service? | 13:22 |
| dm255029 | I'm not sure if an internal bind server could do it | 13:23 |
| dm255029 | it varies, databases, web servers, ssh, etc | 13:24 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | well normally I'd have some sort of load balancer sitting in front of the webservers, the others are going to run on different ports so you can use port forwarding | 13:24 |
| halfss | dm 255029: i am think about this too, but tcp data do not have hostname infomation | 13:25 |
| dm255029 | My QA/DEV teams also need SSH into all of these boxes and we have limited ports available due to firewall restrictions out of our control | 13:25 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Why not just change the ports that they use.. | 13:25 |
| dm255029 | Ports are limited, we only have a handful of ports open | 13:26 |
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| dm255029 | So since for now this is only 6 machines maybe we will use floating ips for now but this is suppose to grow in the future. | 13:26 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | Do you have anything sitting in front of these machines, firewall, router etc | 13:26 |
| dm255029 | Yes corporate firewall and switches that I can't edit. | 13:27 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | Have you spoke with the networking people? You're kinda in their territory | 13:27 |
| dm255029 | My hands are tied with them until we get a customer for this configuration, $$ opens doors for me :( | 13:28 |
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| dm255029 | I appreciate the help, I'll keep plugging! | 13:29 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Sorry maybe there is something in openstack but from a networking perspective what you are trying to accomplish is tough, especially with no $$ to throw at it.. | 13:30 |
| dusty_da_no0b | good luck | 13:30 |
| dusty_da_no0b | oh one quick question | 13:30 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | will the users come from static IP's? | 13:31 |
| dusty_da_no0b | maybe you can do some routing in software by looking at incoming IP address | 13:31 |
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| sgran | in openstack, like in aws, if you want inbound traffic to work, you need a one to one mapping between an external ip and an internal ip | 13:32 |
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| sgran | you can't try to shoehorn multiple internal machines into a single external ip - tcp/ip doesn't work like that, and all the workarounds for it aren't easily supportable | 13:33 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Have you considered terminal services? | 13:34 |
| sgran | or carving off a chunk of your network for openstack and not having an externally managed firewall in front, for instance | 13:34 |
| dusty_da_no0b | give them access to a guest workstation and then they'll work inside the network.. | 13:34 |
| dusty_da_no0b | sgran I think he's on a corporate network with no network access | 13:34 |
| dusty_da_no0b | well admin access to the network | 13:35 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | sgran do you happen to understand how storage works in openstack? | 13:37 |
| sgran | oh, I suspect you're right. I'm just saying "get off of that chunk of network" | 13:37 |
| sgran | which? swift? Not terribly well | 13:37 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | I'm trying to figure out how to effectively use local storage on nodes.. mix of SSDs for the fast cache and big HDDs for long term storage and low priority data | 13:38 |
| dusty_da_no0b | ZFS would probably work but I'm not impressed with how it works on Linux | 13:39 |
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| sgran | ah, I see - the EBS emulation stuff? | 13:41 |
| networkstatic | cluster or ceph maybe? | 13:41 |
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| networkstatic | er gluster | 13:41 |
| sgran | we're using a netapp for that, so I don't know the normal way of doing it :) | 13:41 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Ya I normally throw big bad SANs at the problem or storage hypervisors (in VMware) but the budget doesn't allow for this.. | 13:42 |
| networkstatic | :) | 13:42 |
| dusty_da_no0b | This article has made me wonder if Gluster is ready for prime time http://www.bauer-power.net/2012/03/glusterfs-is-not-ready-for-san-storage.html | 13:42 |
| networkstatic | oh yeah primetime all together diff | 13:43 |
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| networkstatic | :) | 13:43 |
| networkstatic | i think ceph "seems" to be pretty popular | 13:43 |
| dusty_da_no0b | plus it uses Fuse is meh | 13:43 |
| networkstatic | hits cpu fairly hard | 13:43 |
| networkstatic | im a storage dummy tho bout all i kno | 13:43 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | No thanks for the suggestion, I'll research Ceph, maybe it will fit or lead me to something that will | 13:44 |
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| networkstatic | if you find better alternatives let me know dusty, I would be interested also | 13:45 |
| networkstatic | there is a company that started around ceph i have talked wit before | 13:45 |
| networkstatic | lemme dig up the name | 13:45 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I'll be on here for a while if you're going to be around I can let you know what I find in my research | 13:45 |
| halfss | hi,is there anyone develop openstack with mutli zone or region? | 13:45 |
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| MattAtOVH | halfss: my setup is multi zone | 13:47 |
| networkstatic | Panzura was the name dusty. | 13:47 |
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| halfss | MattAtOVH, can you share me you develop? | 13:47 |
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| halfss | thanks | 13:47 |
| Math | what do you want/need to know ? | 13:47 |
| * zynzel also have multi availability zone | 13:48 | |
| dusty_da_no0b | Thanks Panzura | 13:48 |
| Math | I am only using swift however | 13:48 |
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| halfss | how to develop openstack with zone? | 13:48 |
| Math | it's all about your ring | 13:49 |
| halfss | Math: not swift, is nova and glance | 13:49 |
| Math | than I can't help you, I think it would be the same however | 13:49 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Math would you be able to answer a few questions about swift? | 13:50 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I'm not sure how to approach storage with openstack | 13:51 |
| Math | sure | 13:51 |
| zynzel | halfss: if you have any concret question ask, but question like 'how to develop openstack with zone' is to general. | 13:51 |
| Math | go ahead | 13:51 |
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| halfss | zynzel: thanks ,i will :) | 13:52 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I'd like to use a combination of fast SSDs and slow HDDs as local storage on the nodes but I'm not sure how to best utilize this.. I was planning on using a Storage Hypervisor (like I use with VMware) but KVM doesn't play nicely with the products | 13:52 |
| Math | I have all same drive capacity/speed in my setup. Swift doesn't differenciate drive speed, only capacity | 13:54 |
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| Math | from what I could read anyway | 13:54 |
| dusty_da_no0b | But Swift doesn't control the block device correct? So something like ZFS could present the storage to swift? | 13:55 |
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| Math | correct | 13:56 |
| halfss | dusty_da_no0b: you can mount swift to you OS by cloudfuse | 13:56 |
| Math | but swift has better performance if you do not have raid at all | 13:56 |
| Math | and it prefers XFS as a file system | 13:57 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | So it will write to one disk at a time? | 13:57 |
| dusty_da_no0b | RW | 13:57 |
| Math | no | 13:58 |
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| Math | it splits the files and writes it in different areas/disk/zones | 13:58 |
| Math | the more nodes you have, the faster it is. It knows where each parts of the files are stored and can fetch them simultaneously | 13:59 |
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| cw | you can't run your nova instances on swift, that's not possible | 14:00 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | Ok that is one thing I was confused about | 14:00 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | So swift and Nova are separate | 14:01 |
| cw | yes | 14:01 |
| dusty_da_no0b | One cluster for storage and one for computing | 14:01 |
| cw | you can store your nova images in swift (using glance) | 14:01 |
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| cw | but that's just for storage. if you deploy an instance, the image is taken from glance (backed by swift) and stored somewhere in the filesystem | 14:01 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | So openstack might not be the right fit for this project.. I can't afford to have a separate storage architecture | 14:03 |
| dusty_da_no0b | :( | 14:03 |
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| erkules | moin, where can I read up about the logic behind the mysql-schema. i.e. nova.instances. Best to read up what the columns stand for. | 14:03 |
| cw | well, that depends on what you want to achieve | 14:03 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I need to create a solution for the low end of the market | 14:04 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | something a company can scale as they grow.. I was hoping I could use openstack because I think its going to be big player in the market and I really should learn it now.. | 14:05 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | Is it possible to use openstack without swift? | 14:06 |
| halfss | yes | 14:07 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | OK so I just need to figure out something on the linux side of things.. | 14:08 |
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| cw | scaling storage for nova is not easy, ceph is experimental and glusterfs has it's limitations with performance | 14:08 |
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| cw | but why not give glusterfs a try | 14:08 |
| cw | I know you don't like fuse, but I would have a look at it ;) | 14:09 |
| dusty_da_no0b | can't hurt.. any idea on how to benchmark it.. I assume ATTO wont work.. | 14:09 |
| halfss | i trid glusterfs, it's good | 14:09 |
| dusty_da_no0b | I'm always down to experiment | 14:09 |
| cw | benchmark it with the application you want to run on it | 14:09 |
| dusty_da_no0b | So ATTO running in a guest is viable? | 14:09 |
| cw | I don't like synthetic bechmarks | 14:10 |
| dusty_da_no0b | Neither do I but its an easy way to make comparisons | 14:10 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | Phoronix Test Suite? | 14:12 |
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| cw | but it doesn't gives you a confirmation that your application will perform well on it | 14:12 |
| dusty_da_no0b | agreed 100% | 14:13 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | but it does give an idea of overhead costs.. it's not fact but if there is a 40% drop after .. | 14:13 |
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| cw | that's true | 14:14 |
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| dusty_da_no0b | OK so I'm gonna focus on trying out Gluster.. thanks for the advice.. =) | 14:14 |
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| realnorth | hey I've got a quick question | 14:16 |
| realnorth | I'm trying to boot an instance on a client machine and the client keeps getting permission denied on /var/lib/nova/instances/* | 14:16 |
| realnorth | where * is the instance name | 14:17 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: who owns the dir? | 14:17 |
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| realnorth | root | 14:17 |
| realnorth | I played around with chown | 14:17 |
| realnorth | chown -R nova:nova /var/lib/noav | 14:18 |
| realnorth | chown -R nova:nova /var/lib/nova | 14:18 |
| realnorth | still didn't work | 14:18 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: what distro? packages? | 14:18 |
| realnorth | ubuntu 12.04 | 14:18 |
| realnorth | nova-compute | 14:18 |
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| realnorth | that's it | 14:18 |
| realnorth | I think | 14:18 |
| realnorth | there may be some client packages | 14:19 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: i wasnt happy with ubuntu, so i cant check right now :) | 14:19 |
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| realnorth | okay | 14:19 |
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| realnorth | any ideas as to why that might be occurring though? | 14:19 |
| ninkotech | look at rights of the directory again | 14:20 |
| ninkotech | use glasses | 14:20 |
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| ninkotech | then check if your filesystem is mounted read/write | 14:20 |
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| realnorth | drwxr--r-- 8 root root # Jul 10 09:53 instances | 14:21 |
| dm255029 | Yay, they gave us a class C | 14:21 |
| dm255029 | Thanks for your help guys | 14:21 |
| ninkotech | see? root owns it | 14:21 |
| realnorth | right now it does | 14:21 |
| ninkotech | maybe nova:nova should | 14:21 |
| realnorth | yeah I tried that I'll try again | 14:22 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: sometimes it helps to show that to someone, even to a dog | 14:22 |
| ninkotech | :D | 14:22 |
| ninkotech | if you explain it to him, you might get the right idea along | 14:22 |
| realnorth | 2012-07-10 10:08:25 TRACE nova OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/nova/instances' | 14:23 |
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| NashTrash | Good morning Stackers. | 14:23 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: is it now owned by nova? | 14:24 |
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| realnorth | drwxr--r-- 8 nova nova 4096 Jul 10 10:23 instances | 14:24 |
| geordish | dm255029: we haven't been using classful addressing since 93 | 14:24 |
| geordish | sounds like you actually have a /24 | 14:24 |
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| ninkotech | realnorth: funny. you have your pie and you cant eat it | 14:25 |
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| realnorth | yerp | 14:25 |
| ninkotech | selinux or some other fun? | 14:25 |
| realnorth | last thing I want to do boot an instance on another machine | 14:25 |
| ninkotech | can user nova make files there? | 14:25 |
| realnorth | I can boot it on my main nova machine | 14:25 |
| ninkotech | try it manually | 14:25 |
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| ninkotech | do you have filesystem rw? :) | 14:26 |
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| ninkotech | selinux ? | 14:26 |
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| realnorth | I can create files elsewhere | 14:27 |
| ninkotech | become the user, cd into it | 14:27 |
| ninkotech | (maybe you cannot cd!) | 14:27 |
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| ninkotech | and write a file | 14:27 |
| ninkotech | realnorth: i do not know, you are always giving just partial information, which is not enough :) | 14:28 |
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| realnorth | its a client machine running only nova-compute that when I try to boot an instance on it gets a permission error | 14:29 |
| realnorth | what other information is needed? | 14:29 |
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| dm255029 | Ok, another n00b question. I have a nova volume group created, how do I get an instance to create a volume in that group and boot off of it? | 14:31 |
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| dm255029 | Currently my instances are being created and booting out of /var/lib/nova/instance$$$/disk | 14:33 |
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| fm255005 | whats the minimum hw req. for running swift? I see documentation saying you need 5 storage and 1 proxy | 14:41 |
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| melmoth | fm255005, i think if its for learning, you can use 1 node (with 3 separate partition i guess). | 14:44 |
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| melmoth | fm255005, if it s to use, i have been told at least 4 node (3min to have 1 per zone, plus one to be able to have quorum in case one dies) | 14:45 |
| melmoth | 'to have quorum' may actually means 'so that things can still be written', not really sure how the internals works | 14:45 |
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| fm255005 | ok | 14:49 |
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| fm255005 | didnt see that coming | 14:49 |
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| jstrunk_ | There appear to be two possible config file formats for nova: ini and flagfile. Which is preferred going forward? | 15:26 |
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| Adri2000 | jstrunk_: ini | 15:41 |
| jstrunk_ | thank you | 15:41 |
| notmyname | fm255005: are you looking for the minimum to test with or the minimum setup recommended for prod? | 15:42 |
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| fm255005 | prod | 15:49 |
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| moj0rising | Hello! When I try "nova keypair-add --pub_key id_rsa.pub key1" to add my ssh key, I get this output: "ERROR: You must provide a username via either --os_username or env[OS_USERNAME]" Can anyone tell me why that might be? | 17:16 |
| moj0rising | I googled and checked various instructions and it seems I'm doing things correctly though I must not be since I'm getting this error. | 17:16 |
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| Diopter | moj0rising: Using "nova" requires that you provide some credentials that are authorized to perform the operation you're wanting. Looks like you need to source a creds file or provide the user/pass/token by hand | 17:19 |
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| moj0rising | Diopter: Ah. Thank you! Going to give that a shot.... | 17:23 |
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| moj0rising | Diopter: Doh! Now I remember -- I actually resolved that issue last night. It was my environment variables not set... | 17:27 |
| moj0rising | ... which contained the user and cred. | 17:27 |
| moj0rising | That brings me to my current issue. :) When I check the vm with nova show vmtest1, it goes into a failed state: "fault | {u'message': u'libvirtError', u'code': 500, u'created': u'2012-07-10T17:25:27Z'}" Know what a possible cause might be? | 17:29 |
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| Diopter | moj0rising: Looks like an issue with libvirt. Are you sure libvirt is running? Sure nova-compute is running? Sure nova-api is running? | 17:55 |
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| jtran | using curl to query the api, if i query: curl -X GET "http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tenants" -H "$XTOKEN", i get a list of tenant ids just fine however when I go to query Nova API (curl -X GET "http://localhost:8774/v1.1/$DEMO_TENANT/os-security-groups" -H "$XTOKEN" | 18:16 |
| jtran | ) I get access denied.. This is on devstack. | 18:16 |
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| jtran | i am guessing has something to do with endpoints? what u guys think | 18:17 |
| moj0rising | Diopter: Yes. Those things appear all good. | 18:17 |
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| moj0rising | Diopter: I only have one physical interface as this is a test machine. I believe that might be the cause of the problem. | 18:18 |
| Diopter | moj0rising: Shouldn't be an issue... | 18:19 |
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| moj0rising | Diopter: I got that idea from here: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/197857 Wondering what else it could be... | 18:20 |
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| Chocobo | Hi all. I am using Essex and have a couple of questions. In the documentation for nova.conf all of the entries are of the format: "daemonize=1" in my configuration file they are of the format: "--daemonize=1" and does not work without the --. Any ideas there? | 20:04 |
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| realnorth | hey I'm having permissions errors | 20:06 |
| realnorth | 2012-07-10 16:00:41 TRACE nova.rpc.amqp Stderr: "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000041/': Permission denied\n" | 20:06 |
| realnorth | help | 20:06 |
| realnorth | I found this bug report from a while ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/956876 and it really didn't hel[ | 20:06 |
| realnorth | it was marked invalid | 20:06 |
| realnorth | but I still get an error | 20:07 |
| realnorth | even with the correct permissions | 20:07 |
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| realnorth | (or what I think are the correct permissions) | 20:07 |
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| realnorth | anyone experience anything like that? | 20:08 |
| realnorth | this only happens when creating an instance on a client node | 20:09 |
| jtran | realnorth, you probably just need to fix ownership / perms on that parent dir ? | 20:09 |
| realnorth | its a secondary nova-compute node | 20:09 |
| realnorth | drwxr-xr-x 11 nova nova 4096 Jul 10 16:00 instances | 20:10 |
| jtran | and the nova process running as nova user? | 20:10 |
| realnorth | is there a way to check that? | 20:11 |
| jtran | ps auxw|grep nova | 20:11 |
| jtran | in my case, they run as user 'stack' | 20:11 |
| realnorth | nova 8813 0.0 0.0 37944 1276 ? Ss 14:41 0:00 su -s /bin/sh -c exec nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf nova | 20:12 |
| realnorth | there is another one that's similar | 20:12 |
| jtran | looks correct to me | 20:13 |
| jtran | i dunno. | 20:13 |
| realnorth | that's where I'm at now too | 20:13 |
| Chocobo | Should all the options in the flagfiles start with "--"? | 20:14 |
| jtran | realnorth, from that ticket u pasted, it says check /var/lib/nova | 20:14 |
| realnorth | yeah I did ls -la /var/lib/nova | 20:15 |
| realnorth | and got drwxr-xr-x 11 nova nova 4096 Jul 10 16:00 instances for instances | 20:15 |
| annegentle | Chocobo: there's a note in the documentation about the double dashes in nova.conf. It's a deprecated way of formatting and some distros still have it in their defaults but nova.conf with double dashes should work in Essex. | 20:15 |
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| jtran | realnorth, does your sudoers file have 'nova ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' | 20:16 |
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| realnorth | no | 20:16 |
| realnorth | but my main nova-compute server doesn't have that either | 20:16 |
| annegentle | Chocobo: note on http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/compute-minimum-configuration-settings.html | 20:16 |
| realnorth | and it can launch instances | 20:16 |
| jtran | i would try it anyway | 20:16 |
| jtran | according to the ticket that's what was needed | 20:17 |
| lorin1 | Is there any way for an admin to get a list of all of the instances and what hosts they are running on? | 20:17 |
| lorin1 | across all tenants? | 20:17 |
| jtran | realnorth, otherwise this might be related https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/956876/comments/5 (from same ticket) | 20:17 |
| Chocobo | Ahhh thanks. So I should be able to convert. The old format is very ugly in my opinion. | 20:18 |
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| Chocobo | Ok, my other question is this... vnc_enable=false and novnc_enable=false does not seem to work... the kvm hypervisor still configures a vnc port. | 20:21 |
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| Chocobo | it is quite annoying :/ | 20:27 |
| moj0rising | Okay. I think I've found my issue (at least one of them) -- Nova is configured to use the logical volume nova-volume but I have no such volume. I need to change that but can't find where it can be changed in the docs or config files. | 20:27 |
| moj0rising | Can anyone tell me where I can change that parameter or at least how I can set the volume destination upon creating a VM? | 20:28 |
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| annegentle | moj0rising: try http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-volumes.html | 20:29 |
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| moj0rising | Thanks, annegentle. I've actually been to that page but can't quite find it. Can you tell me where on the page it is? | 20:34 |
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| annegentle | moj0rising: as far as I know you can't change the name | 20:34 |
| annegentle | moj0rising: the VG must be called nova-volumes I believe, is that what you are asking? | 20:35 |
| moj0rising | Yes. | 20:35 |
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| moj0rising | okay. Lame. :/ | 20:35 |
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| moj0rising | Oh, well. I'll go ahead and add a volume group then | 20:36 |
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| moj0rising | Thanks anyway, annegentle. | 20:36 |
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| moj0rising | At least I know what I have to do to get it working | 20:37 |
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| annegentle | ;) I don't develop it I just document reality :) | 20:41 |
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| RamJett | Anyone know why I would loose network inside my instances with high traffic? nova-networking is setup with FlatDHCPManager | 21:38 |
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| Azrael | has anybody used "nova aggregate-create"? i've added a host and now the mode is always "changing" | 21:54 |
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| Gearbox | So being new to openstack, I have a question... the storage present on a compute node, that is for ephemeral storage of machine images while they're running, like on EC2? Or is there persistence of machine image contents across VM reboots? | 22:38 |
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| RamJett | Gearbox: the ephemeral is a second drive instance created when the instance is build. So I usually get a /dev/vda as root and a /dev/vdb (ephemeral) ... then you have your volumes .. This is how my setup works any with KVM as the hypervisor | 22:53 |
| Gearbox | *nod* | 22:54 |
| Gearbox | thx | 22:54 |
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