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| jkyle | when a cloudpipe certificate expires, is there a way to renew that certificate with nova, should I do it manually with openssl, or should I just delete the /var/lib/nova/CA/projects/<project_name> and delete/recreate the cloudpipe? | 00:55 |
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| Qten | anyone know if oracle vm hypervisor is supported by openstack | 01:05 |
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| evanjfraser_ | Hey guys, does anyone have experience in building a debian openstack image? | 04:13 |
| evanjfraser_ | I'm having issues with it atm | 04:14 |
| evanjfraser_ | I'm running openstack on Centos 6.2 which doesn't have the uec-publish-image command for starters, what provides this? | 04:14 |
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| geekyogi | Hey guys.. I wish to learn and contribute to openstack.. | 04:22 |
| geekyogi | what is the best place to launch off | 04:22 |
| clarkb | geekyogi: For contributing http://wiki.openstack.org/HowToContribute is probably a good place to start. As is the openstack dev channel: #openstack-dev | 04:25 |
| geekyogi | thanks @clarkb | 04:26 |
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| _val_ | Hey guys. Running nova services (including nova-volume) on one noda while running another nova-volume in another node. When I create a volume e.g 3GB it goes to nova volume where are services are running and when I try e.g another volume it places the volume to my other node. | 07:33 |
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| _val_ | The question is. What if the node running nova-volume fails. what will happen to my 3GB volume? Isn't it backed-up somewhere? | 07:34 |
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| _val_ | Ok guys. Another question. Hope someone is alive. How easy is to resize volumes on openstack?\ | 07:55 |
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| _val_ | third attempt. Does anyone know why does the public key not appear when creating an istance as user nova or glance or demo? It appears only when creating the istance as admin | 08:33 |
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| Madkiss | hm. | 09:04 |
| Madkiss | It appears there are numerous server orchestration tools out there, puppet, chef, juju, crowbar ... I wonder which one to take a closer look a t. | 09:06 |
| oneiroi | Anyone getting this on a kvm install atm: http://fpaste.org/Ch7P/ ? | 09:08 |
| Madkiss | that's normal I think. | 09:08 |
| oneiroi | having a right pain of a time with performance atm, seems like only one host can access the bridge at a time :S | 09:08 |
| ninkotech | Madkiss: i will try saltstack.org | 09:09 |
| Madkiss | ninkotech: dafuq? | 09:10 |
| Madkiss | cool, another one that reinvented the wheel | 09:10 |
| oneiroi | eh? | 09:10 |
| ninkotech | Madkiss: use what you think will be productive | 09:10 |
| ninkotech | Madkiss: and show some respect, punk | 09:11 |
| Madkiss | I don't have green hair. | 09:11 |
| ninkotech | :) | 09:11 |
| Madkiss | maybe I should try that ;) | 09:11 |
| ninkotech | Madkiss: baldheads are also fun | 09:12 |
| ninkotech | :D | 09:12 |
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| smulcahy | morning guys | 09:12 |
| Madkiss | ninkotech: you can't have baldheads in austria or germany without being automatically considered part of a certain political group | 09:12 |
| ninkotech | morning! | 09:12 |
| zykes- | Madkiss: Foreman + Puppet, Crowbar, MaaS + Juju, Razor + Puppet | 09:13 |
| smulcahy | getting an error when trying to create a volume on openstack diablo: euca-create-volume -s 22 -z nova | 09:13 |
| smulcahy | None: 401 Unauthorized | 09:13 |
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| smulcahy | admin user can create volumes ok | 09:13 |
| zykes- | If you need control I don't think Juju is that good though (No flame intended) | 09:13 |
| smulcahy | where do I add permissions for other users to create volumes? | 09:13 |
| ninkotech | zykes-: i just prefer python over ruby | 09:13 |
| zykes- | ninkotech: Salt then + Fabric | 09:14 |
| Madkiss | zykes-: err. | 09:14 |
| zykes- | Madkiss: ? :) | 09:16 |
| Madkiss | zykes-: I'll read up on that, thanks :) | 09:17 |
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| zykes- | Madkiss: if you prefer a all in one box approach try Crowbar | 09:17 |
| smulcahy | actually, can't create volumes in anything but admin tenant | 09:18 |
| smulcahy | is that right? | 09:18 |
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| ninkotech | zykes-: yes, thats the way i will go | 09:23 |
| ninkotech | zykes-: i prefer to be the one in control... all in a box approach is usually not fitting me, as i have special needs | 09:24 |
| ninkotech | fai-project + fabric (fabfile.org) + saltstack.org looks good for me | 09:25 |
| ninkotech | i hope i will be proven right in next month | 09:25 |
| ninkotech | :D | 09:25 |
| zykes- | ninkotech: Foreman is nice as well to tie in pxe + puppet | 09:26 |
| zykes- | then you can add mcollective ontop | 09:26 |
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| ninkotech | zykes-: yes, if you like ruby :D | 09:29 |
| ninkotech | but i have tried that one, and it was not even useable on debian when i tried... | 09:29 |
| ninkotech | it was year or more back | 09:29 |
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| ohadlevy | ninkotech: you should try again ;) | 09:52 |
| ohadlevy | plus, it would support openstack soon | 09:52 |
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| jongleur | Hi. The openstack installation walkthrough says in Section 5.1.2 (Edit the Glance configuration files and paste ini middleware files): "Ensure that the /etc/glance/glance-registry.conf and /etc/glance/glance-scrubber.conf files point to the MySQL database rather than sqlite". The glance-scrubber.conf here does not contain any sql_connection setting. Do I have to add it simply, or is there anything wrong? | 09:58 |
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| Razique | jongleur hi :) | 10:18 |
| Razique | don't you have the line sql_connection ? | 10:18 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/18220/ | 10:18 |
| jongleur | Razique: that's the case, yes | 10:18 |
| Razique | so update it | 10:18 |
| jongleur | sure, I added it here, the question is, if that's common that the line is not included | 10:19 |
| Razique | sql_connection = mysql://user;pass@host/glance | 10:19 |
| Razique | mmm | 10:19 |
| Razique | no the last version still contains it | 10:19 |
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| jongleur | I followed the walkthrough, but had to add the sql_connection to glance-scrubber.conf myself | 10:20 |
| jongleur | and as glance fails to upload the test image (as described in the walkthrough) somewhere has to be something wrong, that's why I ask | 10:21 |
| jongleur | btw: error messages are the hell in openstack as far as I can see up to now... | 10:21 |
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| ninkotech | ohadlevy: soon is often never :) | 10:23 |
| ohadlevy | ninkotech: do you want to see the patch? :) | 10:24 |
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| ninkotech | ohadlevy: :) no, i want see walthrough :) with video and example configs | 10:29 |
| ninkotech | ohadlevy: there is some contributed 3rd party support for openstack in saltstack too... | 10:30 |
| ninkotech | its just i love python | 10:30 |
| ninkotech | i use it as my shell! | 10:30 |
| jongleur | anybody who has an idea where "unsupported format character '/' (0x2f) at index 30" may come from? it occurs in a stacktrace in keystone.log; the stack traces via wsgi.py l 184, service.py l 292, manager.py l 48, sql.py l 169, which is reported as catalog[region][srv_type]['internalURL'] = internal_url % d | 10:37 |
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| Razique | jongleur : could you paste the whole error please ? | 10:48 |
| Razique | here http://paste.openstack.org :) | 10:48 |
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| jongleur | paste.openstack.org/show/18221/ | 10:49 |
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| jongleur | failing command (failing with 503 Service Unavilable. This generally occurs on service overload or other transient outage) is glance -os_username=adminUser --os_password=THEPASSWORD --os_tenant=openstackDemo --os_auth_url=http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 add name="tty-linux-kernel" disk_format=aki container_format=aki < FOOBAR-vmlinuz | 10:53 |
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| oneiroi | jongleur: _sounds_ like keystone is having an issue connecting with glace | 10:55 |
| oneiroi | errr sec let me veryfy my brain is in gear | 10:55 |
| jongleur | ;) | 10:56 |
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| jongleur | I'm not a python coder, but as far as I understand, the last line of the stacktrace refers to a simple string replace command, and I don't have any idea 1) why a "/" should be forbidden there, and 2) where that char should come from. | 11:07 |
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| ninkotech | jongleur: it will be something around % sign in the code | 11:15 |
| ninkotech | maybe % should be used somewhere? | 11:15 |
| ninkotech | % i mean | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | uh, it writes it only once here | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | '%' | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | i typed two % | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | lol | 11:16 |
| jongleur | some internal urls in the endpoint definitions contain % | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | you see, even irc has problemswith % | 11:16 |
| jongleur | ;) | 11:16 |
| ninkotech | it has bad character | 11:16 |
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| ninkotech | jongleur: might be the problem | 11:17 |
| ninkotech | python might consider them formating chars | 11:17 |
| ninkotech | so you should use r' testwith% text' | 11:17 |
| ninkotech | (raw) | 11:17 |
| ninkotech | i cant check that now in keystone srcs, but it imho will be around this problem | 11:18 |
| jongleur | well... as far as I understood, openstack uses % as a replacement for $ because $ has special meanings in unix shells. the code replaces % by $ before: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/backends/sql.py (end of the file) | 11:18 |
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| ninkotech | % is also very special in python :) | 11:18 |
| jongleur | ;) well... I didn't write openstack, but that should then be a more common error, shouldn't it? | 11:19 |
| ninkotech | what is in the url variables? | 11:19 |
| ninkotech | its text formating issue - suggests wrong % | 11:21 |
| jongleur | something like http://131.234.83.82:8776/v1/%(tenant_id)s | 11:21 |
| ninkotech | jongleur: tip: most openstack devs will wake up in 2-4 hours | 11:21 |
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| ninkotech | that should work | 11:22 |
| jongleur | the %(tenant_id) part is AFAIK a placeholder for multiple endpoints differing in the id only. it get's replaced in https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/backends/sql.py first by $ and then automagically by the tenant-id from the loop | 11:23 |
| ninkotech | if it looks really this way | 11:23 |
| ninkotech | maybe you could print the value on console just before the error to check it out | 11:23 |
| ninkotech | and also value of d | 11:23 |
| * ninkotech returns back to his work :) | 11:24 | |
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| jongleur | thanks anyway | 11:24 |
| ninkotech | np, i am afraid i cant help more | 11:25 |
| ninkotech | i have own 100 bugs to fix | 11:25 |
| ninkotech | :D | 11:25 |
| ijw | Is there a place that canonically lists the arguments that an API will take and what they mean? api.openstack.org seems to give parameters (I'm not quite clear what 'parameters' are, actually) and example JSON, but there's no indication that it's listing all of the available options (and in fact I don't think it is) | 11:28 |
| ninkotech | ijw: imho, best way to use api is to use library or cmdline tool - which is documented better and is easy to study | 11:30 |
| ijw | Yeah, ok. I wondered if there was actually a spec or it was a use-the-source thing. | 11:30 |
| ninkotech | but i am not ruling out possibility that spec is out there | 11:30 |
| ijw | (I like my docs ;) | 11:30 |
| ninkotech | i didnt openstack much in last year | 11:30 |
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| johnny_ | hello | 11:32 |
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| johnny_ | i there someone who can help me with swift and keystone configuration | 11:36 |
| johnny_ | is* | 11:36 |
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| jongleur | ninkotech: FYI: you were right, it's an authorization issue somehow; mixed the wrong log files for investigation | 11:41 |
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| ninkotech | just guessing | 11:42 |
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| dafridgie | hi all, has anyone had an issue in Essex with dashboard where they cant retrieve users or tenants ? | 11:52 |
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| _val_ | guys when let's say an instance is launched or a volume is created, how is this instance / volume relicated over all other nova-volume nodes? | 11:58 |
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| _val_ | s/relicated/replicated | 11:59 |
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| dafridgie | i dont think it is replicated, nova volume isnt HA certainly in essex | 12:01 |
| dafridgie | my understanding is that its tied to iscsi implementation on hte host | 12:01 |
| _val_ | dafridgie: when I create a volume it sometimes is created on the machine where all services are running and sometimes on another machine where nova-volume is running only. | 12:02 |
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| dafridgie | val: intersting, i hadn't seen that happen, but I'm only just starting on volumes | 12:06 |
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| _val_ | dafridgie: nova requires you to create a machine with LVM named "nova-volumes". When I create a volume using Horizon and subsequently check with `lvdisplay` it shows the volume has been created under /dev/nova-volumes/volume-00000001 | 12:08 |
| _val_ | so trying the same again. It will create the volume on another volume-node (physical machine). I don't know where it gets this randomness from | 12:08 |
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| dafridgie | Val; have you ever had any issues in Essex with dashboard ? - I can't seem to retrieve users or tenants or modify | 12:16 |
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| _val_ | dafridgie: can you get them from cli? | 12:21 |
| davidha | Hi | 12:21 |
| _val_ | keystone tenant-list | 12:21 |
| _val_ | keystone user-list | 12:21 |
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| dolphm_ | dafridgie: you'll also need to be an admin in keystone to read that data | 12:22 |
| dafridgie | val: yes i can, no probles | 12:22 |
| davidha | Is chunked PUt used today when putting objects to swift a - if so by what clients? | 12:22 |
| dafridgie | dolphm_ - I've created an admin user, assigned it the admin user role inboth default and service tenants | 12:22 |
| dafridgie | I've used this successfully to create all the service endpoints and other users without problems, seems my issue is vrey much focused on dahsbaord | 12:23 |
| _val_ | dafridgie: what do logs say? | 12:24 |
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| dafridgie | val: nothing in nova-api.log, keystone log is also empty, | 12:25 |
| dafridgie | I'll chekc the apache logs now | 12:25 |
| dolphm_ | dafridgie: can you paste your `keystone catalog` for your dashboard user? | 12:25 |
| dolphm_ | dafridgie: i.e. http://paste.openstack.org/raw/18223/ | 12:26 |
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| dafridgie | val: - http://paste.openstack.org/show/18224/ | 12:27 |
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| davidha | notmyname hi | 12:28 |
| dafridgie | Val; thanks for your help on this, I can use dashbaord for pretty much everything else (apart form quantum - not installed yet) | 12:28 |
| _val_ | dafridgie: I don't see logs yet. I don't know what to say. :) But you almost can do anything using the command line. | 12:30 |
| davidha | notmyname: Swift supports chunked uploads - is this being used? By what clients? | 12:31 |
| _val_ | but that's not a secret to you I guess | 12:31 |
| dafridgie | val: too true :) - I'd lie to expose some lower level admins though and the dashbaord keeps them away from the cli whenre they can do 'less damage' | 12:32 |
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| _val_ | dafridgie: it's just from what perspective you look at it. More robust , more complexity, less people will mess with it resulting in less problems. | 12:33 |
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| dafridgie | val: , agreed, in my case 'a little knowledge is dangerous' applies to too many folks in my org. - in any case , I'll just exclude user and tenant management in the meantime from dashboard ops | 12:36 |
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| _val_ | dafridgie: That would be indeed a good idea. What' I'm missing from the dashboard is this. When clicking on the 'Instances' left navigation pane you will see all running instances. No way to filter. | 12:39 |
| _val_ | using the command line IS possible but hey why not implementing it on the dashboard? | 12:39 |
| _val_ | on the other hand, you CAN filter on 'Services' etc.. | 12:39 |
| dafridgie | that is a pain, although as i understnad it , you can edit each of the table elements independently | 12:40 |
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| dafridgie | so you should be able to adjust as needed | 12:40 |
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| _val_ | dafridgie: No I meant like: Clicking on "Instances" on deshboard shows all runing instances. `nova list` does list only the instance created by admin. `nova list --all` shows all instances | 13:00 |
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| _val_ | `nova list --all |grep "Name_of_instance" lists the specific instance. | 13:00 |
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| smulcahy | after attaching a volume to an instance, it doesn't show up til I reboot | 13:06 |
| smulcahy | its an image I rolled myself so maybe something missing | 13:06 |
| smulcahy | I seem to remember a command to force a rescan of attached block devices but the name escapes me | 13:07 |
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| _val_ | lvscan? | 13:08 |
| _val_ | lvdisplay | 13:08 |
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| smulcahy | _val_: that would be for manipulating the LVM volumes on the host | 13:10 |
| smulcahy | I'm talking about recognising the attached nova volume on the guest | 13:10 |
| _val_ | smulcahy: that doesn't manipulate. That scans for logical volumes. If you created a volume using dashboard, you'll see it by typing `lvdisplay` on terminal | 13:11 |
| _val_ | if it doesn't show up. Check volumes database if it contains the entry of the volume you did add. One of these would me "my" guess! | 13:12 |
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| _val_ | also fdisk -l will give you more information. | 13:13 |
| _val_ | running it on the instance itself. | 13:14 |
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| davidha | notmyname | 13:57 |
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| CristianDM | Hi. | 14:01 |
| CristianDM | How I can change the flavor of an instance? | 14:02 |
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| _val_ | CristianDM: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Instance_Type_Management-d1e2734.html. | 14:05 |
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| _val_ | I don't think you can. Once an instance is created you can't change the flavor. At least not that I know off. | 14:05 |
| CristianDM | Wops | 14:07 |
| CristianDM | But this is a basic function | 14:07 |
| CristianDM | If I need more o less resources of an instance? | 14:07 |
| zynzel | CristianDM: snapshot and new instance with diff flavor? | 14:08 |
| CristianDM | Zynzel: Yes, this is a possible option at this time. | 14:08 |
| CristianDM | Thanks. | 14:08 |
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| zynzel | CristianDM: nova resize, but only xen support it (probably) | 14:09 |
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| koolhead17 | _val_, you meant essex | 14:10 |
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| _val_ | koolhead17: welcome back | 14:10 |
| koolhead17 | CristianDM, you can change and create custom flavores too | 14:10 |
| _val_ | Thank god you still alive. | 14:10 |
| koolhead17 | hey _val_ howdy | 14:11 |
| _val_ | koolhead17: good. I can't say perfect, but thanks for asking! | 14:11 |
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| _val_ | I've followed your cssos but couldn't fix the dashboard as I could not log in. | 14:12 |
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| koolhead17 | _val_, you must have done simple mistake am sure :) | 14:12 |
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| _val_ | koolhead17: Hmm. Double check triple check. Everything worked using command line except when it came to dashboard it failed each time logging with user admin / admin | 14:13 |
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| koolhead17 | _val_, hehe sounds interesting. | 14:14 |
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| _val_ | koolhead17: however. I went back to hastexo used the scripts and set things up. Worked! I now came to the "Swift" step. | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | _val_, good to know. In the end thing has to work | 14:16 |
| _val_ | koolhead17: how do you explain when a volume is created it sometimes is being created on the nova-controll machine and sometimes on nova-volume)machine)? | 14:16 |
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| koolhead17 | _val_, wired but right now i cannot.. | 14:18 |
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| koolhead17 | _val_, also double check the config file :) | 14:20 |
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| Madkiss | hello koolhead17 | 14:22 |
| koolhead17 | Madkiss, hello sir. how have you been | 14:23 |
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| Madkiss | koolhead17: fine, thanks. was busy updating the howto ;L) | 14:24 |
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| koolhead17 | Madkiss, awesome. | 14:25 |
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| _val_ | koolhead17: let me know when you get back :> | 14:35 |
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| _val_ | got to ask you for some clarification. | 14:35 |
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| gnu111 | is there a way to find out the details of the Member role? what permissions/privileges it has? | 14:44 |
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| alexpilotti | Hi guys | 14:49 |
| alexpilotti | We need to customize the Openstack Dashboard to add some custom commands on the Instances | 14:50 |
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| alexpilotti | does anybody know if there's any documentation? | 14:50 |
| diggalabs | I think there is a link somewhere… looking. | 14:51 |
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| diggalabs | http://www.prestonlee.com/2012/05/09/how-to-custom-brand-the-openstack-horizon-dashboard/ might help | 14:52 |
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| alexpilotti | tx, that document is unfortunately only about branding and layout | 14:55 |
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| annegentle | alexpilotti: looks like http://horizon.openstack.org/topics/customizing.html is mostly panels - I guess you can modify the panel containing the VNC button? | 15:09 |
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| ektich | Hi All | 16:31 |
| ektich | anyone knows at what should I start looking if I'm getting XXX instead of :-) with nova-manage service list command? | 16:34 |
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| warik | hi, does anyone have implement swift-recon yet? | 17:44 |
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| Glacee | Does swift default to application octet-stream to any content type that we upload(PUT) unless we specify it? | 17:59 |
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| warik | guys, I just setup swift-recon, most of the metrics are working except async and replication, i get that error message in the log when i try to get some info: object-server CRITICAL recon - replication - [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/cache/swift/object.recon' | 18:22 |
| ori | 2 | 18:23 |
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| warik | I did create the folder and add the right privileges to the swift user | 18:23 |
| warik | I am kinda stuck now. Does anyone has any input on that one? | 18:23 |
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| Glacee | try creating an empty gile object.recon with the proper rights | 18:27 |
| Glacee | I had that problem before.. that should work | 18:27 |
| Glacee | gile=file | 18:27 |
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| dbuzz | setting up openstack essex on fc17 getting "ServiceUnavailable: The request returned 503 Service Unavilable. This generally occurs on service overload or other transient outage." i'm debugging now, but has anyone else hit/solved this? | 18:28 |
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| warik | Glacee: thanks, i just created the file, should i also restart the swift services ? | 18:30 |
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| Glacee | no | 18:31 |
| Glacee | did it work? | 18:31 |
| warik | Glacee: i get this now: CRITICAL recon - ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded: line 1 column 0 (char 0) | 18:31 |
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| Glacee | did you run swift-recon-cron before? | 18:32 |
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| warik | I put it into a cronjob task | 18:32 |
| warik | but no | 18:32 |
| warik | i didn't rna this command myself | 18:32 |
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| warik | Glacee: /usr/bin/swift-recon-cron /etc/swift/object-server.conf ? | 18:33 |
| warik | is that it? | 18:33 |
| Glacee | yes | 18:33 |
| warik | ok | 18:33 |
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| Glacee | hhmm | 18:33 |
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| warik | Glacee: anything wrong? | 18:34 |
| Glacee | brb | 18:34 |
| warik | ok | 18:34 |
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| zykes- | is ubuntu awsome out ? | 18:37 |
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| dbuzz | For anyone else facing 503 / 500 glance errors with fedora I've raise this BZ https://bugzilla.redhat.coam/show_bug.cgi?id=826674 noting SELinux policies may need updating (my SELinux knowledge is limited) | 19:16 |
| dbuzz | ^coam^com | 19:16 |
| uvirtbot | dbuzz: Error: "coam^com" is not a valid command. | 19:16 |
| dbuzz | s/coam/com/ | 19:16 |
| dbuzz | w/e | 19:16 |
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| alexpilotti | Hi guys, I'm quite new to Opnestack and I'm trying to understand how credentials access to an instance works | 19:22 |
| alexpilotti | is there a way to create an instance user at instance creation e.g. after "nova boot"? | 19:23 |
| alexpilotti | in particular, I need this for Windows instances RDP access where an SSH key pair does not apply | 19:24 |
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| dbuzz | alexpilotti, I'm not sure if that is opssible using windows I may well be wrong though. | 19:27 |
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| dbuzz | rackerhacker, you woudln't happen to know the rcb images form rackerjoe's default login credentials would you? | 19:41 |
| dbuzz | trying ssh key injection atm seeminly not wanting to work though xD | 19:41 |
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| dbuzz | rackerhacker, ignore me having a *headdesk* day sorted it | 19:51 |
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| dbuzz | Cannot 'unrescue' while instance is in vm_state error (HTTP 409) | 20:06 |
| dbuzz | any ideas on how to recover the instance ? | 20:07 |
| dbuzz | or is this going to be a delete and recrate job? | 20:07 |
| dbuzz | s/crate/create/ | 20:07 |
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| dbuzz | opted for a delete and recreate ... but ... there has to be a way to recover surely? | 20:14 |
| davidha | Hi | 20:16 |
| dbuzz | hi | 20:17 |
| davidha | How do one choose the right partiiton number for a swift ring? | 20:17 |
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| dbuzz | unsure :( last I worked with swift was last october :( | 20:18 |
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| notmyname | davidha: 1) figure out how many storage volumes you will have in a full cluster (based on $ or space or whatever). 2) multiply the number from #1 by 100. 3) find the smallest power of 2 that is bigger than the number in #2 | 20:19 |
| notmyname | davidha: also see http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/05/14/part-power-performance/ | 20:19 |
| dbuzz | that irc handle looks faimilar ... | 20:20 |
| * dbuzz ponders | 20:20 | |
| davidha | notmyname tnx. Another one - do pepole use chunked object uploads? Are there clients that support it? | 20:20 |
| notmyname | davidha: yes and probably | 20:20 |
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| notmyname | dbuzz: mine? | 20:21 |
| davidha | As far as understoon it is not something AWS for example supports - is this true? | 20:21 |
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| dbuzz | notmyname, aye ... were you at the Openstack training last year? or has my brain failed me ? | 20:21 |
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| notmyname | dbuzz: I've stuck my head in the room during a few of the rackspace cloud builders training sessions, but I haven't led any training sessions myself | 20:22 |
| dbuzz | ah brain fail, must of just been talking to you on irc while in the UK sesison then mental association | 20:23 |
| dbuzz | session* | 20:23 |
| notmyname | dbuzz: ah. nope, I haven't been to the UK in a few years now | 20:23 |
| davidha | notmyname: is chunked upload unique to openstack? Am I right that AWS does not support it? | 20:25 |
| notmyname | davidha: I don't know (but I'd be surprised if S3 doesn't support chunked uploads) | 20:25 |
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| dbuzz | yeh I see, in TX, nm at least I'm not going completly mad being unable to place aface to the name :) | 20:25 |
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| Glacee | notmyname: is server side chunking still a possibility or has it been dropped ? | 20:27 |
| notmyname | Glacee: ie auto-creating large objects on upload? | 20:27 |
| Glacee | notmyname: exactly | 20:27 |
| davidha | notmyname: well chunked uploads is not something you would need normally, I would think. See https://forums.aws.amazon.com/message.jspa?messageID=267027 - as of August there was no commitement of AWS part to support it | 20:27 |
| notmyname | Glacee: yes. and there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7257/ but I haven't had a chance to review it | 20:27 |
| notmyname | davidha: ah. wow. seems like a pretty important feature | 20:28 |
| Glacee | notmyname: amazing | 20:29 |
| zykes- | notmyname: :o | 20:29 |
| zykes- | heyta | 20:29 |
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| notmyname | dbuzz: you can see my smiling face at twitter.com/notmyname :-) | 20:30 |
| davidha | notmyname: really? | 20:30 |
| davidha | notmyname: WHy is it important? | 20:30 |
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| davidha | notmyname: who uses it and for what? | 20:30 |
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| dbuzz | notmyname, and google+, linkedin etc ;-) | 20:30 |
| notmyname | dbuzz: ;-) | 20:31 |
| notmyname | davidha: ya. because when I'm storing info from my clients, I don't want to buffer the data on my box. I want to stream it directly to the storage system. the post on the aws forums describes this use case | 20:31 |
| davidha | notmyname: I am not sue I follow - what info would that be for which you do not know the length? | 20:32 |
| notmyname | davidha: imagine if you were building a video sharing site but storing all your data in swift (or S3). without chunked PUTs, you'd have to have enough local space to buffer all of the writes (assuming your service allowed your clients to send chunked content). | 20:33 |
| notmyname | davidha: another issue is one of durability | 20:33 |
| notmyname | davidha: and latency | 20:34 |
| notmyname | davidha: if you are buffering all of the data, then your latency could be up to twice as long (time to store it locally, then time for you to store it in swift). also what happens if your box dies after you get the data from the client but before you save it to swift? | 20:34 |
| davidha | notmyname: lets start with the video - if my client would store video by using a chunked interface - I would need a chunked interface from S3..... but why would my client use chunk ??? | 20:34 |
| zykes- | notmyname: I thought >5 gb was already supported ? | 20:35 |
| notmyname | davidha: because you may not know the actual size of the video up front (it's turtles all the way down) | 20:35 |
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| davidha | notmyname: :) | 20:35 |
| notmyname | zykes-: yes, but it's a manual process that has to be done on the client-side right now. the idea we've talked about is how to get the proxy to do the chunking automatically | 20:35 |
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| zykes- | notmyname: how can that do chunking ? | 20:36 |
| zykes- | like uploading all 20 gb f ex first ? | 20:36 |
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| davidha | notmyname: once more - do you see a case where a client uploads a captured video while it is being captured? Is this a reall application out there? | 20:37 |
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| notmyname | davidha: video makes it a little complicated because of the codecs. but imagine if you were backing up a server and compressing it. instead of buffering that compressed stream somewhere locally, you can simply send it in chunks as acompressed stream. you don't actually know you big it will be until you are done | 20:37 |
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| ijw | zykes: how much space is enough? | 20:37 |
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| ijw | (traditionally phrased, 'how long is a piece of string?') | 20:38 |
| davidha | notmyname: ye ye ye - it is possible. But is this a real application or one we just invented to justify a feature? :) | 20:38 |
| notmyname | zykes-: the idea we've talked about is to have the proxy write but then after 5GB start writing in a different chunk. and if that happens, the proxy will, as a final step, create the large object manifest headers on the first chunk | 20:38 |
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| notmyname | davidha: I think the backups are a real application. I've actually heard of a use case for the video one (but just once) | 20:39 |
| notmyname | zykes-: so then the current large object support would be modified to stream the contents of the manifest first, then the chunks. this should be bacwards compatible since the current definition of large object support states that the manifest files will be 0 bytes long | 20:40 |
| davidha | notmyname: claim: if that was a real reqiurement AWS would have supported it (I hate tis claim myself - but I cant ignore it) | 20:40 |
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| notmyname | davidha: if it were a common requirement for S3 users. swift (or at least rackspace cloud files) probably have somewhat different users. I don't have any first-hand evidence of this, but we originally built swift with the requirements we had at rackspace | 20:41 |
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| ijw | I don't know AWS charging offhand, but if you're storing 5GB of data to AWS I bet it's not cheap. If you're doing it to a cloud of your own making then perhaps you might consider it. | 20:42 |
| davidha | notmyname: Thats a good argument as well :) | 20:42 |
| notmyname | davidha: one of the most common times that this is used for swift is by front-end control panels. people don't want to scale their web app infrastructure to handle all the storage requirements of a swift cluster (that's why you have swift) | 20:42 |
| notmyname | ijw: generally, all of the cloud storage providers are very cheap. 5GB is a pretty inconsequential amount of storage for these clusters | 20:43 |
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| davidha | notmyname: Yes, but as we mentioned earlier - the problem disappears if the cleint is not sending chunked data - you do not need a backend supporting chunk iof you client send the content-length as normally happends. | 20:44 |
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| ijw | notmyname: I have to admit to being out of touch. Also, not really interested in storing 5GB in the cloud. I'm just playing devil's advocate for the minute... | 20:45 |
| notmyname | davidha: ok, but why would you want to limit it when it's a common part of the http spec? why limit the user in that way? | 20:47 |
| notmyname | davidha: I guess I'm not really seeing what the problem is | 20:47 |
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| notmyname | ijw: generally the reasons for using your own storage clusters (rather than outsourcing) include regulations, company policies, and cost. cost generally becomes competitive with public providers as the clusters get larger | 20:49 |
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| davidha | notmyname: no problem. We should note that swift supports it while AWS doesn't. I am not sure if this is as helpful as one would hope though. | 20:50 |
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| notmyname | davidha: it's a good point. I didn't realize that they didn't. yay. go swift :-) | 20:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006045 in nova "python-novaclient problem with PrettyTable 0.6" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006045 | 21:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #861854 in keystone "Token in URL is a security risk" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861854 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #997857 in keystone "Unable to Disable admin_token Directive in keystone.conf" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997857 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005877 in openstack-ci "Undo swift hack in Jenkins Jobs" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005877 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005923 in openstack-ci "Fix UTF-8 warning during Gerrit sync" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005923 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005944 in ceilometer "do we need nova to generate an "exists" event during delete?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005944 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005950 in nova "XEN: nova-compute fails when snapshotting VM with attached volumes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005950 | 21:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005956 in nova "First VM provisioning is slow for large VM images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005956 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005968 in tempest "Testcases for Folsom: Access Key Authentication (blueprint)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005968 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005408 in openstack-manuals "A link is broken in Programming OpenStack Compute API" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005408 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005801 in swift "[1.5.0] Missing test/sample.conf in generated tarballs" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005801 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005805 in horizon "Status is still 'creating' after the volume shapshot is created" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005805 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005806 in horizon "Unable to view the details of the volume snapshot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005806 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005811 in openstack-ci "swift-tarball job no longer understands swift doesn't do milestones" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005811 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005869 in nova "The default config values in nova.conf.sample contain quotes where there shouldn't be any" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005869 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005990 in nova "security group handler doesn't get called with QuantumManger" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005990 | 21:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005447 in nova "Launch the instance from the bootable volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005447 | 21:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005448 in openstack-ci "Gerrit trigger results not getting sent back" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005448 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005554 in nova "cannot associate floating ip after having delete and recreated a fixed network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005554 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005557 in nova "Can not suspend instance on compute node" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005557 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005616 in quantum "Windows instances may not get correct port configuration as set by quantum" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005616 | 21:12 |
| Madkiss | geez | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005182 in nova "Can not ping instances when nova-scheduler restart" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005182 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005423 in nova "Incorrect exception raised during create image , when invalid Image Metadata is passed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005423 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005442 in devstack "How to create the bootable volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005442 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005463 in openstack-ci "updatestats causing exceptions" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005463 | 21:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #993284 in glance "no downgrade in db sync" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993284 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005056 in horizon "i18n issues on "Delete" buttons" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005056 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005170 in nova "Timeout when run nova-all" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005170 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006033 in nova "Validation errors for Delete Image API - Expected response codes not received" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006033 | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006281 in quantum "nexus-os snippet has an invalid parameter" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006281 | 21:15 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006170 in horizon "turning off js breaks workflows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006170 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006221 in quantum "unplug_interface of LinuxBridgePlugin.py references non-existing exception" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006221 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006226 in quantum "unplug_interface of cisco plugin's l2network_plugin.py references non-existing exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006226 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006245 in nova "Method 'get_dev_name - nova.virt.libvirt.vif:LibvirtOpenVswitchDriver' should have self as first parameter" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006245 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006405 in tempest "Additional test cases to be added to test_volumes_negative.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006405 | 21:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006586 in tempest "Race condition in test_servers_negative.py" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006586 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006316 in tempest "Add invalid role id to user on tenant is not raising proper exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006316 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006334 in keystone "Attempt to add role to nonexistant user on tenant is not throwing an error" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006334 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006425 in ceilometer "add counter type field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006425 | 21:17 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006037 in keystone "The 'name' parameter is useless when GET /v2.0/users (dup-of: 972800)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006037 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006055 in keystone "/v2.0/tenants: the 'limit' paramter should limit results instead of scopes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006055 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006094 in nova "typo in addmethod.openstackapi.rst" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006094 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006441 in horizon "run_tests.sh hangs while trying to install distribute using pip" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006441 | 21:18 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #992214 in keystone "GET /tenants XSD schema validation fails" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992214 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006054 in tempest "Duplicate test case in test_list_images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006054 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006121 in horizon "Allow Images To Be Created From An Image Located At A URL" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006121 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006198 in tempest "Networks tests run if Quantum not deployed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006198 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006322 in nova "Instance launch fails when memory is equal to the max memory of the host" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006322 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006366 in ceilometer "create developer documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006366 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006467 in nova "Some parts of Nova not using versioned RPC APIs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006467 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006073 in horizon "When Launching a Modal Dialog, an AJAX Loading Indication Should Be Given" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006073 | 21:20 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006344 in keystone "Attempt to get list ofusers by passing non existant tenant id is not raising exception" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006344 | 21:20 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006029 in keystone "Invalid tokens obtained when tenantId/tenantName is missing/invalid" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006029 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006193 in tempest "Classname for test_list_servers_negative is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006193 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006287 in keystone "Attempt to delete role of user with invalid parameters sent is returning 500 error code" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006287 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006120 in ceilometer "add metadata to instance counters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006120 | 21:22 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006457 in nova "Missing policy.json file results in silent 404 errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006457 | 21:22 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006191 in tempest "test_list_servers_negative suite may fail when running tests in parallel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006191 | 21:24 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006218 in nova "Over instance quota message states "already used 1 of 1 instances" regardless of tenant's instance quota" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006218 | 21:24 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005191 in nova "Failed to soft reboot instance when nova-compute restart" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005191 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006304 in devstack "Issue about python-cmd2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006304 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006341 in tempest "Attempt to add role to user with nonexistant tenant id in the request is not raising proper exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006341 | 21:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005397 in nova "Incorrect exception raised during create image , when invalid server UUID is passed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005397 | 21:27 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005614 in nova "Ephemeral Disk size sets to value of deleted flavour eph. disk size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005614 | 21:27 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005931 in nova "security group quota headroom reduction under-counted for multi-rule addition via EC2 API" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005931 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005933 in ceilometer "replace cast() with notification for metering data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005933 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005935 in ceilometer "create an api for listening to notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005935 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1005941 in ceilometer "add pollster for instance "exists" events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005941 | 21:29 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006616 in nova "libvirt image cache manager fails when instances are being resized" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006616 | 21:30 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1006619 in devstack "Inappropriate check for n-api with ha multinode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006619 | 21:31 |
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