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RamJett | How would I debug glance-api starting and then stopping. I have all file set debug = True and look in the logs. I do now see a error, but it for sure dies. glance-registry is running | 00:36 |
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RamJett | anyone here that can help me out? | 01:29 |
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x86brandon_ | is there some process that should be running in essex to generate the usage in the dashboard? just seeing blanks | 01:39 |
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hugokuo1 | failed to create user with tenant_id from OSKADM API ...... Invalid attribute [u'tenant_id'] | 02:13 |
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hugokuo1 | thx , resolved it | 02:30 |
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jkyle_ | I'm noticing that nova-api automatically opens port 875 unencrypted. is there a way to disable that? | 04:07 |
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jkyle | or only serve over ssl | 04:07 |
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koolhead17 | hi all | 06:56 |
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koolhead17 | if i am running two computes, then i can simply add an endpoint with service compute and a new regionname | 06:58 |
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ttx | reed: no | 07:00 |
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Razique | morning :) | 07:53 |
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kokyu | well, I am, somehow, still having my `glance index` returning "no Glance endpoint", but I am absolutely sure I configured one, as told me to in the essex (trunk) guides at docs.openstack.org - how can I investigate ? | 07:55 |
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Stackops-Jorge | morning :P | 07:57 |
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saju | HI, Instance status showing error | 08:51 |
saju | i am using ubuntu 12.04 + essex | 08:51 |
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saju | i can see an error in libvirtd.log , see http://dpaste.com/742517/ | 08:52 |
saju | it showing error : virExecWithHook:328 : Cannot find 'pm-is-supported' in path: No such file or directory | 08:52 |
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sgran | install pm-utils | 08:54 |
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sgran | and, presumably, file a bug about missing dependencies | 08:55 |
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_et | in keystone endpoint-create what does this part mean?? $(tenant_id)s | 08:56 |
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saju | <sgran> to me | 08:57 |
sgran | saju: yes, I was talking to you | 08:57 |
saju | ok, let me try | 08:57 |
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kokyu | can it be, that the nova.conf got renamed to nova-compute.conf? (on essex @ ubuntu 12.04 ?) | 10:41 |
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koolhead17 | kokyu, not for me | 10:48 |
koolhead17 | :P | 10:48 |
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kokyu | d'oh | 10:50 |
koolhead17 | kokyu, :) | 10:52 |
kokyu | I can't await for the essex book to be released (somewhere around june), because reading essexdocs online while sitting in the train (or where not) isn't that cool :) | 10:53 |
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aspiers | anyone got a link to the video/slides for Mark Shuttleworth's keynote in San Francisco? | 11:35 |
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FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, awake ? | 11:37 |
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CristianDM | Hi. | 11:57 |
CristianDM | I have a issue with the tutorial for install in centos. When run "keystone user-list" | 11:58 |
CristianDM | Show "Expecting authentication method via...." | 11:58 |
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AndyMillar | CristianDM: full stack trace in http://paste.openstack.org/ please | 12:09 |
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CristianDM | http://paste.openstack.org/show/15105/ | 12:09 |
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CristianDM | I am using this tutorial https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17 | 12:10 |
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AndyMillar | which tutorial are you following? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17#Initial_Keystone_setup is pretty good (and that shows you wnat env variables to setup for all this to work) | 12:10 |
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CristianDM | Yes, but using the guide. | 12:11 |
CristianDM | I search in google and have many users with the same error. | 12:12 |
CristianDM | Wops, Now reply "Invalid user / password (HTTP 401)" | 12:13 |
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CristianDM | How I can reset keystone to reconfigure? | 12:14 |
uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, I'm here. Just eating a McLunch. 'sup homie? | 12:15 |
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CristianDM | I can install keystone :D But now show an error in nova flavor-list: ERROR: string indices must be integers, not str | 12:25 |
CristianDM | openstack bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/965826 | 12:28 |
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kokyu | what contents should the /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf have? | 12:32 |
kokyu | only the --libvirt_type=kvm line? | 12:33 |
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kokyu | since when has the syntax of Essex' nova.conf changed? A few weeks back I had things like --libvirt_type=kvm and now it's just libvirt_type=kvm and "[DEFAULT]" in first line (ini-style) :) ? | 12:48 |
kokyu | or am I missing something ? | 12:49 |
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koolhead17 | kokyu, are you using PPA for installing on Precise? | 13:01 |
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_et | VivekVC: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack/%23openstack.2011-11-15.log | 13:13 |
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kokyu | koolhead17: well I'm using the standard repo, so 12.04 precise natively. no extra PPAs | 13:13 |
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kokyu | I wonder how nova-compute knows how many VCPUs it can allocate per compute node. | 13:14 |
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kokyu | I am having a 24-core controller node (also running compute on it), started a test node with 2 VCPUs, and now started a big one with 18 VCPUs, but the latter failed with: "Failed to schedule_run_instance: No valid host was found. Not enough allocatable CPU cores remaining" | 13:15 |
kokyu | but 18 + 2 is not >24 for me :) | 13:15 |
kokyu | and the project(/tenant) quota is 96 VCPUs | 13:15 |
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zynzel | kokyu: select vcpus,vcpus_used from compute_nodes | 13:20 |
zynzel | :) | 13:20 |
kokyu | oh! | 13:21 |
kokyu | hold on | 13:21 |
kokyu | 24, 2 | 13:21 |
zynzel | which scheduler? | 13:22 |
kokyu | uff, sec | 13:22 |
kokyu | SimpleScheduler | 13:23 |
kokyu | *but* can it be because of disk space not enough, too? even though the error message saying something else ? | 13:23 |
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zynzel | kokyu: check nova.conf for flag max_cores | 13:25 |
zynzel | default is 16, and scheduler check this flag | 13:25 |
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kokyu | that might be the reason... the default | 13:30 |
kokyu | because max_cores is not defined | 13:30 |
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kokyu | zynzel: this is the per-node limit, right? | 13:31 |
zynzel | yeap | 13:31 |
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CristianDM | Hi. I setup openstack but I can´t view any log, vnc or console to the VM | 13:40 |
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CristianDM | Hello? | 13:41 |
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Stackops-Jorge | Hello CristianDM | 13:42 |
CristianDM | Hello | 13:43 |
Stackops-Jorge | Not load when open in another window, or what? | 13:43 |
CristianDM | I try to access to intance, log | 13:43 |
CristianDM | or VNC but don´t show anything | 13:43 |
CristianDM | are blank | 13:43 |
CristianDM | And VNC show "loading...." | 13:44 |
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CristianDM | And next "VNC console is currently unavailabe. Please try again later." | 13:45 |
Stackops-Jorge | Umh | 13:45 |
Stackops-Jorge | Go to dm | 13:45 |
CristianDM | dm? | 13:45 |
Stackops-Jorge | directmessage | 13:46 |
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CristianDM | Stackops-Jorge I send a dm | 13:51 |
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Skible | It's working , my OpenStack is working !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:03 |
Skible | i can't believe it | 14:04 |
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Skible | Goood bye long miserable bugs that | 14:04 |
Skible | Good bye to all those useless hint and tips | 14:04 |
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Skible | i have a working OS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:04 |
askstack | can anyone help me with a authentication related to glance and swift ? I posted details in https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg11144.html | 14:04 |
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askstack | i have three partical working openstack, trying to piece them into one. :-) | 14:06 |
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Skible | askstack: Good for you man , i have been working on OS for a month now, i was a total noob but now i know a lot | 14:09 |
Skible | i will be posting a new tuto about understanding and installing OS | 14:09 |
Skible | very soon inchaalah | 14:09 |
Skible | you just wait for it ;) | 14:09 |
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askstack | skible: great, where are you going to post it ? | 14:12 |
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Dieterbe_ | protip: with virtualbox and dell crowbar, setting up swift becomes a breeze | 14:15 |
kokyu | zynzel: thanks. the max_cores worked just fine :) | 14:15 |
Dieterbe_ | or well, with physical hardware or other hypervisors as well | 14:15 |
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zynzel | kokyu: no problem | 14:17 |
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chmouel_ | askstack: what's your glance configuration? | 14:19 |
kokyu | is there a way to see the actual distribution of the sum of all %instance.max_cores in the dashboard? (would be very informative, and how many are in used in terms of VCPUs) | 14:19 |
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koolhead17 | skible, ^^ cool | 14:20 |
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skible | koolhead17: next week i will be releasing a full tuto inchalah | 14:21 |
koolhead17 | sounds awesome skible . good stuff | 14:21 |
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askstack | chmouel_: my glance-api-pase.ini http://paste.openstack.org/show/15129/ | 14:21 |
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askstack | chmouel_: mysql> select * from user; | 14:23 |
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askstack | chmouel_: glanceadmin and swiftadmin user has no tenant. mayhe that's a problem. | 14:24 |
chmouel_ | and your glance-api.conf ? | 14:25 |
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askstack | chmouel: http://paste.openstack.org/show/15136/ | 14:26 |
skible | koolhead17: thanks man :) , got to go now to write history :D | 14:26 |
chmouel | askstack: and can you access properly swift (with bin/swift) with user service:swiftadmin ? | 14:28 |
chmouel | askstack: because you seems to use glanceadmin in your msg | 14:29 |
askstack | chmouel: swift -v -V 2.0 -A http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U service:swiftadmin -K verybadpass list glance | 14:30 |
askstack | chmouel: glance | 14:30 |
askstack | chmouel: err, it returned "helloworld". its a document i uploaded. | 14:30 |
askstack | chmouel: does glanceadmin or swiftadmin need to be in the "service" tenant ? | 14:31 |
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chmouel | askstack: not necessary it needs to be able to upload | 14:33 |
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chmouel | askstack: rereading your configs | 14:34 |
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kokyu | can I change the flavor of a VM w/o loosing it's disk data? I basically want to increase the RAM of one VM | 14:35 |
chmouel | askstack: not sure why it doesn't work let me rekick a devstack a vm to investigate | 14:35 |
chmouel | askstack: you using trunk ? | 14:36 |
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askstack | chmouel: fedora 17 and latest rpms, http://paste.openstack.org/show/15151/ | 14:37 |
chmouel | so i'm guessing it should be stable | 14:38 |
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jkyle | So, I've noticed that nova-api creates an iptables rule that opens up port 8775 on my public interface | 14:38 |
jkyle | how can I either prevent that or configure it for ssl connections only | 14:39 |
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askstack | chmouel: I think so, glance --version : glance 2012.1 , swift --version : swift 1.0 | 14:40 |
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chmouel | askstack: that's old the glance version | 14:41 |
askstack | chmouel: actually, there is a glance update. let me update it and report back. hehehe | 14:42 |
chmouel | yeah you'll need the essex version (and not before) to get glance+swift+keystone working | 14:43 |
jkyle | chmouel: how's my version is 2012.1 and there are no updates | 14:43 |
jkyle | ii glance 2012.1-0ubuntu2 | 14:43 |
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chmouel | i'm not really sure about how packagers are calling versions (or even where i find the version in glance) but you definitively need this https://github.com/openstack/glance/commit/633f83109f0e6185f6960912565194436b2aaf3f in your version | 14:45 |
chmouel | to get this working | 14:45 |
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jkyle | yeah, glance --version returns 2012.1 | 14:45 |
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prectechCharlie | Hello all, I am having a strange problem where I changed the fixed-ip address of a running instance using the nova client on the control node and after requesting a reboot, the instance; whish is running on compute node can't connect to the nova-api runnning on the compute node. | 14:51 |
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prectechCharlie | I keep getting this error "2012-05-04 14:20:35,827 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254' failed: url error [[Errno 113] No route to host]" when I look at the console output | 14:51 |
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askstack | chmouel: I upgrated openstack-glance.noarch 0:2012.1-3.fc17 to openstack-glance.noarch 0:2012.1-4.fc17. rebooted. glance --version: 2012.1 and "glance add" is still failing. | 14:53 |
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askstack | chmouel: i will try to install from github and report back. | 14:54 |
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gabriel__ | hi | 14:54 |
Guest34521 | hi | 14:54 |
gabriel__ | I just finished installing openstack essex | 14:55 |
gabriel__ | on ubuntu 12.04 | 14:55 |
gabriel__ | on server | 14:55 |
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gabriel__ | and I will use it in production | 14:55 |
gabriel__ | plan to include other 2 servers | 14:55 |
chmouel | askstack: well it needs to be applied if you are using git https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6528/ | 14:56 |
gabriel__ | great thing this openstack | 14:56 |
gabriel__ | respect | 14:56 |
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dmlb2000 | Is there anyway to trust an IP cidr for all ports? | 15:06 |
dmlb2000 | nova secgroup-add-rule seems to always want a port and not a range | 15:06 |
Spirilis | I think using -1 may match any? | 15:08 |
Spirilis | at least with icmp the examples always show "-1" as the port | 15:08 |
dmlb2000 | Spirilis: the api is telling me that's not between 1-65535 | 15:08 |
Spirilis | weird, wonder how the python-novaclient does it then | 15:09 |
dmlb2000 | ERROR: Invalid port range -1:-1. Valid TCP ports should be between 1-65535 (HTTP 400) | 15:09 |
Spirilis | maybe that only applies to icmp then... huh | 15:09 |
dmlb2000 | I tried to put in the range '1-65535' as the port value | 15:09 |
dmlb2000 | ERROR: Invalid input received: To and From ports must be integers (HTTP 400) | 15:10 |
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Spirilis | oh wait | 15:10 |
Spirilis | the 2 port arguments are the range | 15:10 |
Spirilis | Positional arguments: <secgroup> ID of security group. <ip_proto> ip_proto (icmp, tcp, udp). <from_port> Port at start of range. <to_port> Port at end of range. <cidr> CIDR for address range. | 15:11 |
Spirilis | so nova secgroup-add-rule <rule> tcp 1 65535 <IP> | 15:11 |
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dmlb2000 | Spirilis: Oh, okay that makes more sense I thought it was more like destination port and source port | 15:11 |
Spirilis | yeah, I thought so too until I just looked :-) | 15:11 |
Spirilis | learn something new every day! | 15:12 |
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askstack | chmouel: I don't know how to apply the patches, so I download the entire glance source from https://github.com/openstack/glance | 15:52 |
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context | yes | 15:52 |
context | then you will cd into it | 15:53 |
context | and most likely: patch -p0 < ../topatchfile.patch | 15:53 |
askstack | chmouel: after install, I ran "glance-control all start" , glance --version: glance 2012.2-dev | 15:53 |
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askstack | context: if i get the source from the github, it should contain the latest code, right ? | 15:54 |
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askstack | chmouel: glance index: An object with the specified identifier was not found. Details: 404 Not Found | 15:56 |
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askstack | chmouel: glance api.log says : No route matched for GET /v1/images/ | 15:57 |
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chmouel | how do you get that? | 15:58 |
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context | askstack: if the patch was put into it yes | 16:00 |
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askstack | chmouel: i set debug = true in glance-api.conf , api.log showed above message, give me a sec to post more. | 16:01 |
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askstack | chmouel: more log at http://paste.openstack.org/show/15168/ | 16:05 |
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askstack | context: thanks. | 16:05 |
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askstack | chmouel: sorry, left out few lines, http://paste.openstack.org/show/15169/ | 16:08 |
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askstack | chmouel: looks like the patch isn't in the main package, i will try to patch it. | 16:11 |
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_rfz | Anyone using the standard --rpc_backend option in nova? | 16:25 |
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agy | is anyone using glance with an S3 store where swift is the S3 store? glance is trying to connect to $s3_store_bucket$s3_store_host instead of just $s3_store_host | 16:39 |
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agonella | hello, Is there any way to retrieve the hosts from openstack? | 16:44 |
agonella | No the instances, but the hosts which are running the instances. | 16:45 |
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agy | agonella: nova-manage host list | 16:52 |
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agy | 'nova-manage service list' may be more useful | 16:53 |
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kokyu | I just rebooted my controller node (containing compute, too), and the 2 earlier launched instances are flagged as ACTIVE but are not actually started. why could such thing happen? (I did `virsh start instance-0000xxx` to *really* start them, but that can't be the solution) | 16:54 |
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kokyu | http://pastie.org/3859893 this is what `nova-manage service list` shows in my case (nova-compute marked as XXX ?) | 16:56 |
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agonella | agy: It will try it, thanks a lot | 17:01 |
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kokyu | is there a way to increase the RAM/VCPU-count of an instance at run-time ? | 17:09 |
kokyu | (speaking of kvm) | 17:09 |
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askstack | if glance and swift both use keystone backend, do i need to configure "swift_store_key " in glance-api.conf ? i don't know what this option does. | 17:20 |
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Robbin | Hello, can anyhelp help me to configure 'Keystone' with 'Swift'? | 17:20 |
Robbin | Over https. | 17:21 |
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Robbin | apearing on screen after running any swift/keystone command "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.6-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/sqlalchemy/pool.py:159: SADeprecationWarning: Pool.add_listener is deprecated. Use event.listen() self.add_listener(l)" | 17:52 |
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swill | I am trying to get 'tempurl' working with my swift setup and I am always getting a 401. I wrote my own auth middleware and i am wondering if there are special things I need to do in my 'authorize' to allow these requests. | 18:03 |
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swill | I am not seeing anything in tempauth that makes me think i need to do anything special, but i am not sure. https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/common/middleware/tempauth.py | 18:04 |
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swill | has anyone used tempurl yet? | 18:18 |
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swill | actually. should the request ever even hit my auth middleware our should tempurl authorize the request if it is built correctly and just skip my middleware totally (cause tempurl runs first). | 18:20 |
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webvictim | heh | 18:44 |
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askstack | chmouel: it must be the software packages I am using on fedora 17 are causing the problem. i switched to another fedora16 install and didn't get the problem. | 18:46 |
askstack | chmouel: on fedora 16, glance version is glance 2012.1. thanks for your help. | 18:46 |
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warik | hi, anyone who's followed this how-to http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/compute-minimum-configuration-settings.html is able to make nova stays up and running | 19:14 |
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warik | i tried so many flags, nothing works | 19:14 |
warik | nova-api main process (2400) terminated with status 1 | 19:14 |
warik | that's all i get from the logs | 19:14 |
warik | thanks for your thoughts / help :) | 19:14 |
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_rfz | warik, what packages/OS are you using? | 19:18 |
warik | _rfz: 2012.1-0ubuntu2.1 / Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 19:18 |
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_rfz | can you paste your nova.conf at pastebin | 19:18 |
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warik | sure | 19:19 |
_rfz | I usually get that error, when the drive space is full | 19:19 |
_rfz | and make sure your logs are on verbose | 19:19 |
_rfz | --verbose | 19:19 |
warik | i have set verbose=True | 19:19 |
warik | is that ok ? | 19:19 |
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_rfz | should be --verbose=True, or just --verbose | 19:20 |
_rfz | mine are all just --verbose | 19:20 |
warik | http://pastebin.com/0TDNu5T6 | 19:20 |
_rfz | :) | 19:21 |
warik | thx | 19:21 |
_rfz | your missing -- from all your entries | 19:21 |
_rfz | all the options in nova.conf should have -- | 19:21 |
_rfz | ie --my_ip=192.168.3.240 | 19:21 |
warik | _rfz: I had the -- before | 19:22 |
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warik | I just tried without :) | 19:22 |
warik | OK, i added them back | 19:22 |
warik | still the same problem | 19:23 |
_rfz | restart all your services | 19:23 |
warik | :S | 19:23 |
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warik | ok | 19:23 |
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warik | still: terminated with status 1 | 19:23 |
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warik | _rfz: are you using the same packages / os ? | 19:24 |
_rfz | same as you | 19:24 |
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warik | are you using FlatDHCP ? | 19:25 |
_rfz | Check this guide out (if you haven't already) http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-20121-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin | 19:25 |
_rfz | Yes, FLatDHCP | 19:25 |
warik | yep I know this one :) | 19:25 |
_rfz | and your partitions aren't full? | 19:26 |
warik | looks good | 19:26 |
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_rfz | did you run the nova-manage db sync command? | 19:27 |
warik | no | 19:27 |
warik | let me try | 19:28 |
warik | no luck! | 19:28 |
_rfz | what's the error? | 19:28 |
warik | the command nova-manage db sync, doesn't prompt any eror | 19:28 |
warik | error | 19:28 |
warik | then i restart the services | 19:28 |
warik | and: terminated with status 1 | 19:28 |
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warik | _rfz: when did you install your openstack server | 19:29 |
warik | ? | 19:29 |
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_rfz | I've got a few deployments, the latest was today | 19:29 |
_rfz | it worked without any problems | 19:30 |
warik | ok | 19:30 |
warik | right on | 19:30 |
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_rfz | with rabbit_mq did you change your password on the service? | 19:30 |
warik | (it sucks that the official documentation is not actually giving a working result) | 19:30 |
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warik | _rfz: yes | 19:31 |
warik | rabbitmqctl change_password guest MyPassword | 19:31 |
_rfz | you should try follow the hastexo documentation, it should work. The only times I've got errors with nova, is when nova.conf is wrong, or the disks have filled up | 19:32 |
_rfz | nova should start with the latest default packages, something is def wrong | 19:34 |
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warik | _rfz: agreed | 19:36 |
warik | I will try this how-to | 19:36 |
warik | thanks for your time | 19:36 |
_rfz | nws | 19:37 |
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Pizza401 | will openstack ever be offered as a standalone OS rather than a bunch of packages? | 20:13 |
Pizza401 | something like ESXi. | 20:13 |
Pizza401 | is that ever going to happen? | 20:13 |
ninkotech | Pizza401: it will. | 20:16 |
ninkotech | i will try to do that in next month | 20:16 |
ninkotech | and there are others trying - see stackops or similar | 20:16 |
Pizza401 | ah, interesting | 20:17 |
Pizza401 | so that's the aim for openstack? | 20:17 |
Pizza401 | simple deployment like ESXi? | 20:17 |
Pizza401 | exciting | 20:18 |
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Pizza401 | ninkotech: so when openstack leaves beta... it will be available as a distribution like stackops? | 20:36 |
Pizza401 | that's really cool | 20:36 |
Pizza401 | will it be easy to configure like ESXi? | 20:36 |
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tong | @notmyname, John, good afternoon, any update on 3rd Party API thing? | 20:45 |
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kokyu | Hey. the nova-scheduler is to run *only* on the controller node while nova-network must run on *every* compute node, isn't it? | 21:05 |
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lorin1 | kokyu: generally, nova-network only needs to run on one node, unless you're running in HA mode (in which case it runs on every compute node) | 21:12 |
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lorin1 | kokyu: If you run in HA mode, the nova.conf settings are different. | 21:13 |
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lorin1 | kokyu: HA details are here: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html | 21:13 |
kokyu | hm | 21:13 |
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kokyu | you mean to HA the instances itself or just to HA the controller node ? | 21:14 |
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kokyu | lorin1: ah, it looks like Option 3 (HW Gateway) is what I am looking for. (having a gateway that is also the only one managing public(/floating) IPs and NATing them into the private cloud - right? | 21:19 |
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lorin1 | kokyu: Here you've reached the limit of my expertise. But that sounds right. | 21:21 |
kokyu | :) | 21:21 |
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Pizza401 | omg | 21:26 |
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kokyu | can nova-volume use swift as backend object storage ? | 21:37 |
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kokyu | ls | 21:54 |
kokyu | err :D | 21:54 |
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_rfz | wrong window :D | 21:55 |
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kokyu | someone around? | 22:46 |
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kokyu | I just wanted to delete a network via `nova-manage network delete` which worked fine, but was unfortunately still in use by a VM. then I created a new network, associated to a project. and now I cannot delete it because of its association. how can I "disassociate" it from each other? | 22:47 |
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Pizza401 | will openstack allow for freebsd images? | 23:19 |
Pizza401 | it should, right? | 23:19 |
Pizza401 | same as windows and linux? | 23:19 |
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kokyu | Pizza401: as of kvm, it doesn't make any difference what you actually run on it ;) | 23:30 |
kokyu | Is there *any* difference between "tenant" and "project" I read both even in the same help output, but I got told that both means the same | 23:30 |
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_rfz | kokyu, openstack still calls "tennants" projects | 23:36 |
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