Friday, 2012-04-06

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withnalethe keystone-manage function is a bit hard work, with you constantly having to note primary keys and reuse them. is there any work in making it a little more user friendly?00:36
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Ruetobas@@ it seems the download links for essex swift and glance are broken on the web page ...01:53
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galthausHas anyone tried Precise Ubuntu packages for swift?  I'm seeing a webob version mismatch when starting swift-proxy02:14
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974810 in nova "Can't show all  translated i18n messages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97481003:15
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calaveraI haven't checked openstack in a long time and I'd like to know if it's still impossible to use more than one hypervisor per installation03:23
calaveraanyone?? ^^03:24
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WilliamHerrywhat steps should i follow when i want to add more storage node03:28
WilliamHerryswift03:29
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Qtenas i understand swift is going to support ceph's rbd driver in the newest version of ubuntu 12.04 lts, how does this compare to ceph's implementation as ceph and rbd is direct and i imagine swift's implementation would have to be via the04:13
Qtenother services eg: object container -> account auth-> proxy04:14
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wkellyQten: I don't think swift is going to support rbd, but ceph's rados gateway supports the swift interface, and glance supports rbd as a backend04:18
wkellyso perhaps some wires got crossed04:18
Qtenahh04:18
Qteni did hear this from the ceph channel so 8)04:18
wkellyhaha04:19
wkellywell, I could also be wrong04:19
wkellyI have not been following swift very closely.  I don't see anything in the change log though04:19
Qteneither way they are going to "interface"04:19
wkellyyeah, they should play nicely04:19
wkellyif you write against the swift api for your object storage, you can easily convert to ceph should you desire04:19
Qtenyeah i'm at a point i need some storage so i can start building our services but i keep hitting brick walls04:20
wkellyand still use hp or rackspace object storage with the same code04:20
wkellywhat kind of brick walls?04:20
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Qteni've been looking at a number of projects but they either have issues with still being in beta or lack of support/say they are opensource and have an opensource license but all commits are done by a commerical company lol04:21
Qtenand or i hit the performance vs reliablity issue04:22
Qtenthat last one could be possibly 2 companys but i was not talking about ceph04:22
Qtenumm the brick walls i guess are trying to find something that has block support04:23
wkellyah04:23
Qtenfor storing vm's04:23
Qtensnapshots etc with 2nd or 3rd datacentre replication04:23
wkellyceph seems like a win there04:23
Qtenit does however only major issue with it is how long till its stable :)04:24
wkellyhehe04:24
Qteni can't put a beta product into production, well i could but if it goes very wrong 8)04:24
wkellyyeah, I can understand that04:24
wkellyI know the dreamhost guys are using it quite a bit internally04:25
wkellybut I do not know anyone else running it on anything prod04:25
Qtencan kind of understand that04:25
Qtenif you develop it you know how to fix it kind of thing04:25
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Qtenor workout how to fix it04:26
wkellyyeah, definitely04:26
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Qteni suppose whats most interesting to me is the issue of performance vs realiablity04:33
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Qtenin usual storage terms you can't have both, but at scale it really starts to get interesting04:34
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Qtensay in a system of 6 storage nodes a "goal of 3" using the standard method (no raid) you could lose upto 2 hard disks out of 6 nodes before your data is unavaliable for that file04:35
Qtenin that scenario its more likley to get a hard disk failures then server failures04:36
Qtenso what happens when you have 50 nodes with 12 disks in each you now have upto 600 points of failure04:36
Qtenso you increase your goal level of 3 or 4 or more by also decrasing your useable capacity04:37
Qtenso your increase the cost of storing your file by 4 or 5 or however many times, you think you can withstand hard drive failures04:38
Qtenso ok now lets reduce the points of failure slightly and run a raid6, now we have turned out 600 points into 50 points of failure kind of but now we are back to how many servers can fail before we notice a outage :)04:39
Qtenmaybe i'm looking at this all wrong ( i hope so ) :)04:39
Qteni just wonder how many times the likes of rackspace store there files to ensure customers don't lose data04:42
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974835 in quantum "quantum client --version option, unexpected behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97483504:50
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manlymatt83e/window close05:10
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philhsmithHello! I'm trying to get an essex swift installation running, and I have some questions that I can't seem to answer with the docs alone.  Does anyone have some time to help?05:36
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journeemanHello, everyone. Are Essex packages available for Precise Beta 2 by any chance?06:58
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koolhead11journeeman, yes very much :)06:59
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RaziqueMorning all :)07:31
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ik04kanotmyname, fear seem intrusive, but I have one more question on cname_lookup07:46
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974916 in horizon "Instance name not shown on attached volume table row" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97491608:21
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974959 in nova "nova daemons are not conforming to the LSB standard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97495908:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974964 in horizon "UX improvements - the selected Tab should be remembered on page reload" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97496409:01
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kodapaHello09:14
kodapaJust got our second kernel panic09:14
kodapaOn one compute node09:14
kodapaMust be a bug09:14
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chinosukeHi, i'm considering to have a storage between swift and gluster.09:54
chinosukewhat are the differences btw gluster and swift.09:55
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JKERZNSwift ain't a fs10:01
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chinosukeJKERZN: actually i just want to implement storage.10:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975035 in nova "kvm: ssh commands during resize instance gets stuck up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97503511:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975043 in nova "Cloudpipe VPN instance can loose connectivity after starting openvpn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97504311:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975124 in keystone "keystone cli tool lacks user-get subcommand" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97512413:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975212 in nova "Flavor self link not included in GET server response" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97521215:01
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phschwartzWhat is the flag to have a compute node when it restarts to auto restart the instances that are running on it.15:16
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phschwartzkiall: ping15:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #975232 in openstack-manuals "Need response codes displayed on api.openstack.org" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97523215:21
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ChelseaHI have a question about rabbitmq regarding openstack diablo. I created a new user and password through rabbitmqctrl, and in my nova.conf told it the new user and pasword through --rabbit_user and --rabbit_password. After restarting my nova services, I'm getting ECONNREFUSED for all of my services on dashboard. Any ideas why?15:46
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avoineChelseaH: you can try to launch a service (nova-api for example) directly from the command line and check the errors15:54
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avoineChelseaH: like that: su -s /bin/sh -c "exec nova-api --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf" nova15:55
avoineas root15:55
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975262 in glance "glance add-image aborts with a 404 error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97526215:56
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ChelseaHavoine: when I do that I just get four times "Starting the Token Authentication component". I now see that identity and image are up, but compute is still down. I tried manually starting nova-compute in the way you mentioned, and theres no error messages15:57
ChelseaHavoine: nevermind. I gave it the wrong password. Thanks!15:58
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avoineahh if i had a penny for everytime this happen to me15:59
avoinethis and a capital letter16:00
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ChelseaHIt seems like my nova services are having problems connecting to my rabbitmq server, they keep saying that the AMQP server is unreachable. Which service is responsible for the AMQP server?16:06
timbo_can someone please tell me the correct url for specifying an compute-endpoint in keystone? the documentation says it's http://<ip>:8774/v2 or http://<ip>:8774/v1.1/116:07
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timbo_but neither one works. the first one returns an 404 error, the second one a 400 ("malformed request url")16:11
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hub_captimbo_: is this what u mean?16:13
hub_caphttps://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/files/default_catalog.templates16:13
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annegentletimbo_: a compute endpoint is :8774/v2/{tenant_id}, an auth endpoint is :5000/v2.0 or :35357/v2.0.16:17
annegentletimbo_: let me know which doc confused you on this16:18
timbo_this one tells me to use :8774/v2.0 or :8774/v2 : http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/defining-services.html16:19
timbo_annegentle: and this to use :8774/v1.1/1 : http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/verifying-identity-install.html16:19
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timbo_annegentle: (take a look at the enpont list)16:20
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timbo_hub_cap: :8774:/v2 gives me a 404 error (The resource could not be found)16:21
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hub_capnot sure what to say, i use it against devstack, thats all i know ;)16:24
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timbo_hub_cap: thanks anyway :) I probably misconfigured something16:27
hub_capis nova running on 8774?16:27
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975289 in nova "Missing describe-by link in extension call" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97528916:30
timbo_hub_cap: yes, at least i can telnet it and nova-api.log say its running (Started osapi_compute on 0.0.0.0:8774)16:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #975287 in nova "Bad date format in extensions call" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97528716:31
hub_capwell ill agree w/ that! timbo_ . Sry wish i was more help16:32
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timbo_hub_cap: no problem, i think i'll create a question on launchpad16:33
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hub_capmight try the ML as well16:34
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975298 in openstack-ci "support dependent jobs and also matrix jobs in gerrit trigger plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97529816:46
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gsu_eagleCan anyone help me with my single node setup?17:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975335 in nova "RBD volumes don't work with unprivileged RADOS users in Essex" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97533517:46
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soukiheiI'm working through the openstack install guide for the first time, and I am getting the error 'db_sync is not a supported obj type' when I execute the command 'keystone-manage db_sync' as described in the document18:11
soukiheiI'm concerned because the documentation says to edit the connection line in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf, however the actual line in the file was originally labeled sql_connection18:12
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annegentlesoukihei: I keep meaning to log a bug about that. Maybe a keystone person (dolphm heckj termie) could help us out?18:17
annegentlesoukihei: sorry to cause you to stumble on it as well18:17
* heckj reads18:17
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soukiheiannegentle thanks. I'm trying to get a proof of concept going and sadly it hasn't been as straightforward as I'd hoped after reading the original documentation18:18
annegentlesoukihei: also see https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/19217618:18
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annegentlesoukihei: for just a proof of concept, follow http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin18:19
dolphmsoukihei: annegentle: is this a doc bug or something in keystone-manage?18:19
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annegentledolphm: probably a doc bug, but I'm not sure whether you are required to use keystone-manage --config-file=../etc/keystone.conf db_sync when using SQL rather than templates18:20
annegentlesoukihei: the doc on hastexo uses templates rather than sql which is easier just not really production-like18:20
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heckjsoukihei: the connection string in your config is probably invalid. What do you have in your config18:21
soukiheiheckj: sql_connection = mysql://keystone:database@localhost/keystone18:21
soukiheii've verified the sql user/pass is correct18:21
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dolphmsoukihei: is there a more complete stack trace in your keystone logs?18:22
soukihei the only thing in the /var/log/keystone/api.log is a warning line saying "wsgi starting up on http://0.0.0.0:5001/"18:23
soukiheiannegentle: I tried both the -d flag and --config-file in the keystone-manage command and got the same (limited) output18:24
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heckjsoukihei: possibly useful as well - run "keystone-manage --debug db_sync". Will hopefully give more data to tell us the error18:24
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heckjooh - my suggestion may not help much18:24
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heckj--debug is the same as "-d"18:24
soukiheiheckj: yeah, same output18:24
heckjsoukihei: can you put your entire keystone.conf into a paste somewhere we could look it over?18:25
soukiheisure18:25
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soukiheihttp://pastebin.com/1DTzVVqs18:26
* heckj reads18:26
soukiheiI'm wondering if the default_store = sqlite line needs to be modified18:27
annegentleold keystone had that line too, but yeah I wonder18:27
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dolphmthis is diablo?18:28
heckjsoukihei - this isn't essex, is it?18:28
soukiheiI don't know. I'm running and using Ubuntu 11.1018:28
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heckjThat's the older version of keystone - the diablo release18:28
soukiheiok, so I should upgrade to essex?18:28
dolphmyay 4 essex18:28
heckjsoukihei: I would definitely suggest that, yes18:29
dolphmsoukihei: if that's an option, absolutely18:29
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soukiheiok. I'll work on that and see if it resolves the problem here.18:29
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soukiheithank you for the help18:29
heckjwelcome!18:29
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annegentlesoukihei: ah there you go!18:35
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swillnotmyname: i am getting a 'key_error' on line 63 of 'slogging/log_common.py' trying to access the config via: self.log_processor_account = conf['swift_account']18:39
swillnotmyname: are you sure you can access the conf that way.  i would expect conf.get(...)18:39
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swillnotmyname: changing that line to the following seems to fix it for me: self.log_processor_account = conf.get('swift_account', '')18:42
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swillnotmyname: i created an issue in github...18:53
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ik04kanotmyname, I have one more question on cname_lookup: when enabled it lead to response code 400  for any domains other than storage_domain without CNAME in dns. For example, for swauth requests like https://localhost/auth. Patching code works but I'm not sure this is best way19:23
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GlaceeHmm https://launchpad.net/swift latest release tarball is 1.4.3? :020:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975483 in glance "pip install glance does not install dependencies " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97548320:45
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webhostinggeekanyone using KVM on openstack?21:14
webhostinggeekI want to know if KVM doesn't support online resize or if it doesn't support resize at all.21:15
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webhostinggeekref:http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix21:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #975570 in nova "cannot run nova unittests from venv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97557022:31
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pquernajustinsb_: neat22:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #975589 in nova "Improve API logging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97558922:56
warikHowdy, No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client"    is that sounds familiar to anyone ?23:00
justinsb_pquerna: Thanks!  It's early days, but I'm hoping it'll make it easy to build X-as-a-service on OpenStack23:00
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justinsb_pquerna: There's a bunch I think we should bunch :-)23:00
justinsb_pquerna: Ooops.  There's a bunch I think we should build :-)23:01
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justinsb_http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3809221 in case everyone is like "huh?"23:01
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