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| mjfork | warik: no, that is not right | 00:06 |
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| warik | mjfork: ok, so, why use swift with Openstack ? Just to store your images? | 00:08 |
| mjfork | yes, store images | 00:08 |
| mjfork | its two different use cases - swift is object storatge (think amazon s3) where as nova is computing power + block storage (thjink ec2 + ebs) | 00:08 |
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| warik | right | 00:09 |
| warik | so glance is hooked up to Swift and pull the image from there and gave it to the nova-compute | 00:10 |
| warik | ? | 00:10 |
| mjfork | actually, glance returns a URL to nova | 00:12 |
| mjfork | nova goes to the URL to get it | 00:12 |
| mjfork | that URL *may* point at nova | 00:12 |
| mjfork | if err, at Swift | 00:12 |
| mjfork | so swift is optional with glance | 00:12 |
| warik | mjfork: got it | 00:12 |
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| warik | are you using swift mjfork ? | 00:13 |
| warik | I'm trying to get some feedback :) | 00:13 |
| mjfork | i have installed it in POC format | 00:13 |
| warik | ok, with 1 proxy and couple nodes ? | 00:14 |
| mjfork | right | 00:14 |
| mjfork | 1 proxy, 5 stroage | 00:14 |
| warik | is it 5 storages minimum ? | 00:14 |
| warik | i'd like to do 1 proxy and 2 storages | 00:14 |
| warik | at first | 00:14 |
| mjfork | yes, 5 minimum | 00:15 |
| mjfork | does 3 replicas | 00:15 |
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| warik | hmm, well that's a lot of machines for a test environment ! | 00:16 |
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| warik | I install swift all in one earlier on a vm, looks promising so far | 00:18 |
| warik | installed | 00:18 |
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| mjfork | warik: i cheated...i used 6 VMs on 1 machine | 00:21 |
| mjfork | for testing, it is fine | 00:21 |
| mjfork | PoC | 00:22 |
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| warik | mjfork: do you think there is a way to tweak the config to use less storage nodes? | 00:26 |
| mjfork | i guess you could start wtih 3 if you don't need redudanncy or anything | 00:26 |
| warik | right on! i guess i'll do that | 00:28 |
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| Jinkyung | In Swift system we experience occasional connection failure , and suspect that it may be related to 'net.ipv4.tcp_timestamp. Is there anyone who have the similar experineces on it ? | 00:45 |
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| Jinkyung | In Swift system I experience occasional connection failure. Does anyone who experiences on it ? | 00:47 |
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| sobe__ | I am looking into vm image storage in OpenStack. I want to be able to implement vm image placement decisions myself. I just wanted to know if Swift allows that functionality. More specifically, is Swift configurable such that I can tell it which nodes/zones vm image replicas should be placed? I am new to OpenStack so I don't have much experience with it. | 01:51 |
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| shayatou | a question about the ring in swift. since the replica number is configured when I first built the ring, if I want to reconfigure the replica number, what should I do? | 02:05 |
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| mjfork | sobe_: swift is an optional way to store images, sounds like you are referring to instances? | 02:35 |
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| tjoy | any xenapi users? does openstack determine whether instances are run as paravirtualized or fully-virtualized? | 02:37 |
| sobe_ | mjfork: I was referring to storing images. in an environment where there are many geographically distributed datacenters, I want to be able choose the locations where image replicas are located. I wasn't sure if that was possible in swift, or if I have to implement my own storage for that. | 02:39 |
| notmyname | shayatou: do you have a set of data that you must preserve access to? | 02:39 |
| mjfork | sobe_: hmm, i don't believe that is supported in swift yet. but notmyname is right on time | 02:40 |
| notmyname | sobe_: swift can't really do that yet | 02:40 |
| mjfork | sobe_: i don't know if this is best way, but glance is really a pointer to an image that nova retrieves - can you use an DNS name that resovles to a local machine for retrieveal and use a repilcated filesystem? | 02:41 |
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| notmyname | sobe_: perhaps an alternative is to have a few swift clusters in different locations and choose which one you write to | 02:43 |
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| sobe_ | mjfork: i'm new to OpenStack so I don't know how everything works yet. But I thought glance retrieved the images for nova. Is there a documentation for this that I can read? | 02:44 |
| mjfork | glance is a registry | 02:45 |
| mjfork | it doesn't do the retrievval | 02:45 |
| mjfork | but returns a pointer | 02:45 |
| sobe_ | notmyname: is it possible to have multiple swift clusters and how would one go about choosing which one to write to? | 02:45 |
| mjfork | that pointer is usually a swift url or an http url | 02:45 |
| mjfork | but could be others | 02:45 |
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| notmyname | sobe_: that would be chosen at a level above swift (eg your auth system or some management piece) | 02:47 |
| notmyname | sobe_: this is the way rackspace cloud files works. we have 3 production clusters, and the rackspace auth system determines what cluster you use when you sign up for an account (which cluster you get is determined by our own business rules) | 02:48 |
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| sobe_ | notmyname: if you have multiple swift clusters, if i understand it correctly, once someone's account is associated to a particular swift cluster, they can only store their objects on that cluster. is this the way it would work? | 02:53 |
| notmyname | sobe_: yes. each swift cluster is autonomous, but it would be possible for an auth system or ID management system to keep references to many swift clusters. this is the sort of thing that keystone (another openstack project) is working towards | 02:54 |
| notmyname | sobe_: we've talked about testing swift clusters dispersed over a wide geographic area (and then fixing any issues that show up) and adding support for "replication policies", but it hasn't been done yet | 02:55 |
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| notmyname | (where replication policies would be something like "make sure this container is in these zones [which are in these 2 regions]") | 02:56 |
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| sobe_ | I think I will need to take the approach mjfork has suggested. thank you guys for your help, it has been very helpful! | 03:04 |
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| mjfork | good luck | 03:04 |
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| shayatou | notmyname:I think I need to preserve access to data already stored in the swift cluster | 03:56 |
| notmyname | shayatou: ah. then you'll hae a tougher time :-) | 03:56 |
| notmyname | shayatou: basically, you'll need to migrate your data (GET from the old, PUT to the new) | 03:56 |
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| shayatou | notmyname: is the ring infomation kept on the builder file or the gzipped file? | 04:05 |
| notmyname | the gzipped file. the builder file is used to build/modify the ring. in practice, it's not a bad idea to always keep then together. you don't _ever_ want to lose all your copies of the builder | 04:06 |
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| shayatou | I read from the administor manual, that it seems possible to recover from a builder file loss, but a new ring have be create from scratch, data will be unreachable during that process | 04:12 |
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| shayatou | notmyname in that case, do I need to manully migrate data | 04:13 |
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| notmyname | shayatou: yes | 04:14 |
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| shayatou | then, I guess, in production, it is huge work if I want to reconfige the ring? | 04:23 |
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| shayatou | notmyname: in rackspace cloud files, do you change the configuration of ring? I think it is a reasonable request that I to want change the partition number or replica count as time goes by, now it is just really ditfficult to do that | 04:29 |
| notmyname | no, we don't. we use 3 replicas | 04:30 |
| sobe_ | notmyname: I read that Glance supports swift, filesytem, S3, and http as backend store. My question was does Glance support Network File Systems as backend store? | 04:31 |
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| shayatou | notmyname: what about the partitition number? if the cluster starts small, and then more devices is added, the partion number may need to grow? | 04:33 |
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| mjfork | sobe_: just mount it at the OS level as the directory Glance uses | 04:47 |
| mjfork | shayatou: when setting up the ring, you are to use a parition power that covers as big as your env could ever grow | 04:50 |
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| mjfork | shayatou: see "Preparing the ring" under http://swift.openstack.org/deployment_guide.htm | 04:51 |
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| mjfork | shayatou: . A good starting point might be to figure out the maximum number of drives the cluster will contain, and then multiply by 100, and then round up to the nearest power of two. | 04:52 |
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| OpenStackNewb | testing... | 05:06 |
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| Orp | hello? | 06:02 |
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| Orp | Need to ask a few newb questions re: Openstack. Is this the place to do it? | 06:04 |
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| Orp | (gah) | 06:05 |
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| Kiall | Orp, yea.. it is ;) | 06:13 |
| Orp | Wow. Thanks for replying. It is so quiet here that I thought I was doing something wrong. What gives? | 06:14 |
| Kiall | Its night for most of the people usually here ;) | 06:14 |
| Kiall | (or 6am for me..) | 06:14 |
| Orp | AH. Of course. May I ask you a few Openstack questions? | 06:15 |
| Kiall | Sure.. | 06:15 |
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| Kiall | BTW - General IRC etiquette is "Don't ask to ask, Just ask." .. Most people ignore the "ask to ask" in case them get roped into something they cant help with, or dont have time to ;) | 06:16 |
| Orp | Very new to it. I notice there is the ObjectStorage and then there is Nova Volume. I see that I can use storage servers for ObjectStorage. Do I need other storage for Volume? | 06:16 |
| Kiall | in case they* | 06:16 |
| Orp | ok | 06:16 |
| Kiall | OpenStack Swift (Object Storge) and OpenStack Nova's volume storage are two very different services.. | 06:18 |
| Kiall | Swift is basically Amazon S3 (and actually is RackSpace cloud files...) | 06:18 |
| Kiall | While nova's volume service is quite like Amazon's EBS service.. | 06:18 |
| Kiall | One provides a service you can use HTTP GET/POST/PUT/DELETE requests against to store files.. | 06:19 |
| Kiall | while the other provides a "over the network USB drive" you can format and do what you like with.. | 06:19 |
| Orp | ah. ok. I am wondering what sort of storage devices Rackspace and/or AWS uses for their "volume service"? I suppose they have storage networks - with SANS? or do they also use commodity drive systems there too. (hope that is clear) | 06:20 |
| Kiall | So - yes, they would normally be hosted on different servers.. | 06:20 |
| Kiall | (Also .. Swift is optional if you just want VMs... And Nova is optional if you just want object storage) | 06:20 |
| Kiall | Yea - the volume service would typically use iSCSI capable SAN storage.. | 06:21 |
| Orp | now I see | 06:21 |
| Orp | So helpful | 06:21 |
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| Orp | I was confusing the storage - thanks so much. | 06:21 |
| Kiall | swift would typically use much cheaper storage servers.. ie no RAID, large disks, as many disks as you can cram into each server... | 06:21 |
| Orp | yes. | 06:22 |
| Orp | Volume would use what sort of devices? | 06:22 |
| Orp | Expensive RAID units? | 06:22 |
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| Orp | Ah. I see your answer above - iSCSI SAN storage | 06:24 |
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| Kiall | Yea.. You can you standard servers aswell.. | 06:25 |
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| Orp | I see. Pardon me for being so dense on this. By standard servers you mean, say, a 48GB RAM quad core system with 48 SATA drives and a few 10GbE adapters? | 06:27 |
| Kiall | That would do the trick all right.. | 06:27 |
| Orp | (as opposed to a DELL unit) | 06:27 |
| Orp | OK THanks That really helps | 06:27 |
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| Kiall | I have a small nova install that uses some pretty crap dell servers for nova-volume .. but, performance and availability won't be a good as something decent ;) | 06:28 |
| Kiall | as good as* | 06:29 |
| Orp | understood. How many volume servers do you have? | 06:29 |
| Orp | I am wondering how many I can get away with for my test install. | 06:30 |
| Kiall | Just the one on that install.. We don't really use the volume service for much :) | 06:30 |
| Orp | ok | 06:30 |
| Kiall | for a test install, you can literally get away with 1 server total.. | 06:30 |
| saju_m | have any way to add new instance type to openstack ??? | 06:31 |
| Kiall | saju_m, yea.. "nova-manage flavor add" | 06:31 |
| Orp | Great. Ultimately I wish to see if I might put together a real system. But storage scares me. I really want to get away from using expensive Compellent or Equalogic units. That would kill me over time. | 06:31 |
| saju_m | ok | 06:32 |
| saju_m | then, any way to get all available instance types ?? | 06:32 |
| Kiall | saju_m, replace add with list | 06:32 |
| saju_m | ok thanks | 06:33 |
| Kiall | Orp, yea.. the issue with using standard servers is availability.. Its much harder to keep all volumes alive running when one dies ;) | 06:33 |
| saju_m | i think we can't do this with euca2ools, right ??? | 06:33 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #915817 in glance "kombu for notifications should reconnect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915817 | 06:33 |
| Kiall | no - euca2ools is a set of tools desiged for end users, and has no system admin capabilities | 06:33 |
| saju_m | also we can't add and list instance types in eucalyptus like this ???? | 06:34 |
| saju_m | ok | 06:34 |
| Kiall | eucalyptus from what i remember had a fixed list where you could only change the values (ie more ram etc) | 06:34 |
| saju_m | ya | 06:34 |
| * Kiall really hopes I've gotton the driver pre-install right on the windows image.. 4th time lucky ;) | 06:35 | |
| Orp | Hmmm. Yeah. I will step aside and allow others access. One last question: Do you think the big cloud companies are using gobs and gobs of SAN units (like EMC, DELL, etc?) That is seriously expensive. | 06:36 |
| Kiall | the big cloud companies have the manpower and salary budget to be able to avoid expensive SANs if they want to ;) | 06:36 |
| Orp | aha - yes | 06:37 |
| Orp | Well this has been helpful. Hopefully, after I have played around with Openstack, I will return to help some newb get his cloud underway. Thanks again | 06:39 |
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| LarsN | Is it wrong to deploy a 6 node Swift cluster, on Nova instances? | 06:49 |
| * LarsN feels slightly dirty. | 06:49 | |
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| Kiall | LarsN, lol | 06:59 |
| LarsN | sure it's funny. | 06:59 |
| LarsN | but It's also true. | 07:00 |
| LarsN | I did it, and i feel slightly dirty as a result. :) | 07:00 |
| Kiall | and rightly so ;) | 07:00 |
| LarsN | the truth is, I have access to a rather large nova installation, and i don't have 5 spare computers laying around. | 07:01 |
| LarsN | so i did the next best thing. | 07:01 |
| Kiall | this isnt for production use now is it? | 07:01 |
| LarsN | no. | 07:02 |
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| Kiall | ah .. then its all good ;) | 07:02 |
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| Kiall | something tells me this disk benchmark is.. off. | 07:07 |
| Kiall | 3000MB/s my ass. | 07:07 |
| Kiall | Wonder if HDtune uses a capital B when it should be using a small b ;) | 07:07 |
| LarsN | I've seen benchmarks along those lines. | 07:08 |
| LarsN | ZFS, with an I/O fast L2ARC cache, solid state ZILs, and a pile'o'spindles | 07:08 |
| LarsN | :) | 07:08 |
| Kiall | Yea.. 4x SAS 3Gb/s in a raid 10, on a crappy dell raid card... inside a VM. | 07:09 |
| Kiall | I don't think so ;) | 07:09 |
| Kiall | Its probably not even actually hitting the disk... the server has enough spare ram to cache it all.. humm. | 07:12 |
| Kiall | http://imgur.com/VkJU9 just cant be accurate ;) | 07:13 |
| LarsN | heh | 07:15 |
| LarsN | should totally post that as... "Dude look at my epic storage array" | 07:16 |
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| Kiall | LarsN, lol.. | 07:24 |
| Kiall | Pretty sure people are throwing dell 1950's in the bin these days, if only they knew it could do 3GB/s ;) | 07:25 |
| LarsN | at $oldjob we had a LOT of 1950s in service. | 07:25 |
| LarsN | new job is a different major vendor. | 07:26 |
| Kiall | Okay. This cant be happening. 3GB/s over 1Gb/s with iscsi overheads -_- | 07:26 |
| Kiall | I thought HDTune was the "go to" HD benchmark tool for windows -_- | 07:26 |
| LarsN | windows. | 07:27 |
| LarsN | sorry, haven't touched it in years for anything other than a work laptop. | 07:27 |
| Kiall | yea.. I know.. Need some MS SQL server VMs for a client.. | 07:27 |
| Kiall | Yea .. Neither have I ;) | 07:27 |
| Kiall | Okay .. iotop on the physical hosts shows them basically idle.. I'm benchmarking my RAM it seems ;) | 07:32 |
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| LarsN | i kind of want to roll out the jmeter test suite on nova compute instances, | 07:39 |
| LarsN | and see just how much my site proxied by cloudflare can take.. :) | 07:39 |
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| Kiall | lol.. | 07:40 |
| Kiall | I've found cloudflare fairly unreliable.. Keeps saying "site down" when I *know* its not.. | 07:41 |
| LarsN | cloudflare is NOT a cdn | 07:41 |
| LarsN | when benchmarking? | 07:41 |
| LarsN | or in general? | 07:41 |
| Kiall | No, in general on relatively idle sites.. | 07:41 |
| LarsN | I found i had to whitelist my test sites or CF would block the benchmarks. :) | 07:41 |
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| Kiall | http://kohanaframework.org .. every week or so it goes down for a few mins.. | 07:42 |
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| LarsN | at least you're actually doing something with your CF site. :) | 07:43 |
| LarsN | http://lnoldan.com | 07:43 |
| LarsN | ^ just a dumb test :) | 07:43 |
| uvirtbot | LarsN: Error: "just" is not a valid command. | 07:43 |
| Kiall | lol | 07:43 |
| LarsN | after we launch, I might move that into our nova cluster, and set up auto-scaling load balancing :) | 07:44 |
| LarsN | been working on haproxy, and event triggers that touch the nova api. | 07:44 |
| LarsN | :) | 07:44 |
| Kiall | nice :) | 07:44 |
| Kiall | Humm.. According to cloudflare's stats we do about 60k views a day.. more than I thought :/ | 07:45 |
| LarsN | I'm less than 1k | 07:45 |
| LarsN | not that my blog about bicycling should have anyones attention. | 07:46 |
| LarsN | once i get my haproxy work done, i might write a post about it. | 07:46 |
| shang | hi all, anyone tried the diablo release and not being able to push the image to the cloud? Error log from nova-api: https://pastebin.canonical.com/58092/ | 07:50 |
| shang | I am getting the error: Unable to run euca--describe-images. Is environment for euca- set up? | 07:51 |
| Kiall | shang, have you sourced the novarc file? | 07:51 |
| shang | Kiall: yes | 07:51 |
| Kiall | Well, without being able to see the pastebin (the canonical pastebin is canonical employee only ;)), the error sounds like you are missing the environment variables novarc ususally sets up | 07:52 |
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| shang | Kiall: sorry, let me try to paste it again | 07:53 |
| Kiall | ;) | 07:53 |
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| shang | Kiall: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/802691/ | 07:54 |
| Kiall | Okay - that looks like nova-api is failing to connect to the glance-api, is glance running? (and is nova pointing to the right IP for glance?) | 07:55 |
| shang | Kiall: glance[-api, -registry] is running, | 07:56 |
| Kiall | is nova-api and glance on the same server? | 07:57 |
| shang | yes | 07:57 |
| shang | but the glance_api is using the private address | 07:57 |
| * shang changing the glance api server to the public ip | 07:58 | |
| Kiall | ah .. if you add --glance_api_servers=x.x.x.x:9292 to nova.conf and restart nova-api + nova-compute | 07:58 |
| shang | Kiall: yeah, that is the problem, not sure I understand why they can't talk to each other tho | 07:59 |
| shang | should they always be on the same LAN? | 07:59 |
| Kiall | No - anything that lets a 9292 TCP through should work.. | 08:00 |
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| shang | yeah.... :S | 08:04 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #892065 in nova "libcloud driver" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892065 | 09:42 |
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| smoser` | Kiall, ping | 09:50 |
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| smoser | Kiall, well, if you see this, there is a question in bug 912066 for you. | 09:51 |
| Kiall | smoser, heya - just about to head off but will look when I get to the office... | 09:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #915966 in nova "New command "guestmount"" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/915966 | 11:51 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #916018 in openstack-ci "Need to have working quantum-tarball jobs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916018 | 13:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #916019 in openstack-ci "Need python-keystoneclient tarball jobs" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916019 | 13:37 |
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| heyho | Hello, anyone knows if openstack is capable of doing automatic live migration if a physical compute node goes down? Using nfs instance storage maybe? Is it possible too? | 13:39 |
| koolhead11 | .............. | 13:42 |
| Spirilis | heyho: I don't think it has automated migration (and it wouldn't be a "live migration" anyhow, since the compute node is down)... in fact I think to make that happen you have to manually edit the database to move it to another box | 13:42 |
| Spirilis | But it is possible, with NFS backed instance storage. Live migration (from compute nodes that are up) also requires NFS instance storage | 13:43 |
| Spirilis | I can't say I've actually tried it yet :-) | 13:43 |
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| Leander | hello all | 13:44 |
| Leander | i need some help with keystone once again | 13:45 |
| Leander | For starters, how can i solve this issue: "ImportError: No module named keystone.middleware.ec2_token" | 13:49 |
| Leander | i've installed keystone according to http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=482&p=1745&hilit=keystone+horizon#p1745 | 13:49 |
| mjfork | Leander: where do you get that error | 13:51 |
| Leander | mjfork: as soon as i restarted nova-api | 13:52 |
| mjfork | sounds like bad paste.ini | 13:52 |
| mjfork | patsebin it | 13:52 |
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| heyho | Spirilis thanks for the info | 13:54 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4274/ | 13:54 |
| Leander | i copied it from the ones in the examples directory of the keystone source | 13:55 |
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| Leander | i also replace glance-api and glance-registry with the ones available in the example dir | 13:56 |
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| mjfork | Leander: are you trying to use EC2 auth? | 13:56 |
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| Leander | mjfork: i want to system to work with OpenStack api instead | 13:57 |
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| mjfork | ok, did you happen to save your old config? | 13:57 |
| Leander | mjfork: yes, should i paste bin it? | 13:58 |
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| mjfork | why did you replace it? | 13:59 |
| sobe | Does Glance support other key-value stores besides Swift as image store? | 13:59 |
| mjfork | sobe: swift isn't a key value store | 14:00 |
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| Leander | erm, because i thought it was necessary :S | 14:00 |
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| Spirilis | yeah glance keeps key-values in its database, but the backend is the object store for the images themselves | 14:00 |
| mjfork | sobe: you can point glance at (file, swift, s3, or rbd). | 14:00 |
| mjfork | Leander: pastebin old conf | 14:01 |
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| Leander | mjfork: out of curiosity, is there an easy way to post these things through the terminal? | 14:02 |
| mjfork | hmm, not that i know of | 14:02 |
| mjfork | i guess ishould find a shortcut | 14:02 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4275/ | 14:04 |
| mjfork | Leander: is your nova install diablo version? | 14:04 |
| Leander | mjfork: yes, standard packages provided by ubuntu 11.10 | 14:05 |
| mjfork | can you get package verisons | 14:05 |
| Leander | sec pleas | 14:06 |
| Leander | mjfork:2011.3-0ubuntu6.3 | 14:08 |
| mjfork | Leander: for nova | 14:09 |
| mjfork | is that what all the nvoa packages have? | 14:09 |
| Leander | mjfork: all the nova-* have the same version | 14:10 |
| mjfork | Leander: get this apit-paste https://github.com/openstack/nova/raw/1ba752768a8834a855bd968a5772588f23b81c80/etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 14:10 |
| Leander | mjfork: what exactly was the problem with the other one? | 14:11 |
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| mjfork | Leander: probably from a wrong version, not 100% sure, just getting a known good | 14:12 |
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| Leander | mjfork: nova-api started without problems | 14:12 |
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| mjfork | ok | 14:14 |
| mjfork | now | 14:14 |
| mjfork | you need to edit that file | 14:14 |
| mjfork | put yuor keystone info at the bottom | 14:14 |
| anpl1 | hi all | 14:15 |
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| mjfork | Leander: and then comment ou 87 and 94 while uncommenting 91/98 | 14:15 |
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| Leander | mjfork: check | 14:17 |
| Leander | mjfork: "PasteAppNotFound: Could not load paste app 'osapi' from /etc/nova/api-paste.ini" | 14:17 |
| Leander | after nova-api restart | 14:17 |
| mjfork | pastebin | 14:17 |
| mjfork | the conf | 14:17 |
| Leander | nova.conf? | 14:17 |
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| Leander | mjfork: nova.conf or api-paste? | 14:18 |
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| mjfork | api-pate | 14:20 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4276/ | 14:22 |
| mjfork | Leander: give me the whole stacktrace for the error | 14:25 |
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| Leander | mjfork:http://paste.openstack.org/show/4277/ | 14:26 |
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| oarcher | hi. my instances got problems for reaching http://169.254.169.254 . To do so , i had to configure eth1 on the controler with a private ip, and do ifconfig eth1 up on the compute node. (eth1 is part of the br100 bridge). Is there a better way to do so ? | 14:32 |
| mjfork | oarcher: are you running multihost? | 14:32 |
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| oarcher | mjfork: yes | 14:33 |
| oarcher | (and i want to) | 14:33 |
| mjfork | oarcher: need to run nova-api on every host | 14:33 |
| mjfork | Leander: I see it! missing a P on line 98 | 14:34 |
| mjfork | Leander: ipeline should be pipelin | 14:34 |
| mjfork | err...pipeline | 14:34 |
| oarcher | ok, so just apt-get install nova-api on every hosts ? | 14:34 |
| mjfork | and start/run it yes | 14:34 |
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| oarcher | ok, many thanks. I'm going to try | 14:35 |
| Leander | mjfork: fixed it, but now i have this problem: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4278/ | 14:36 |
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| mjfork | need to isntall python-keystone iirc | 14:37 |
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| Leander | from the main repos? | 14:37 |
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| mjfork | yes | 14:38 |
| GMI | I'm getting errors when installing nova-compute from the Essex2 PPA on Ubuntu 10.10 (same on Ubuntu 11.04): http://paste.openstack.org/show/4280/ | 14:40 |
| GMI | It looks like nova-common is broken :( Anybody else tried Essex2 from the PPA? | 14:41 |
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| Leander | mjfork: the system is plotting against me!! http://paste.openstack.org/show/4281/ | 14:48 |
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| micadeyeye | what image pastebin would you recommend? | 14:52 |
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| micadeyeye | I always search for one to use | 14:52 |
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| micadeyeye | <micadeyeye> what's the Fedora 16 (Verne) log-in details? | 14:56 |
| micadeyeye | <micadeyeye> login: root | 14:56 |
| micadeyeye | <micadeyeye> password:??? | 14:56 |
| micadeyeye | <micadeyeye> I am trying to log into into kernel | 14:56 |
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| Spirilis | FYI, looks like some Ubuntu updates for kvm, qemu-kvm etc. just came through for Oneiric | 14:59 |
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| koolhead11 | uksysadmin: around | 15:00 |
| uksysadmin | I am | 15:00 |
| Leander | can some one tell me the root of the problem here > http://paste.openstack.org/show/4281/ | 15:00 |
| Leander | ? | 15:00 |
| micadeyeye | what can I use to paste image? | 15:00 |
| Spirilis | update version of qemu-kvm is now 0.14.1+noroms-0ubuntu6.1 | 15:00 |
| micadeyeye | What site** | 15:00 |
| micadeyeye | And does anyone know the username& password to the Fedora 16 kernel? | 15:01 |
| Leander | mjfork: still there? | 15:01 |
| micadeyeye | I guess the username would be "root" | 15:01 |
| mjfork | Leander: on the phoen | 15:02 |
| Leander | ok | 15:03 |
| uksysadmin | koolhead11, 'sup? | 15:03 |
| micadeyeye | uksysadmin, Leander, got answer to any of my questions? | 15:04 |
| koolhead11 | uksysadmin: how are things? | 15:04 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: you're supposed to use a ssh key, usually. there's no password, as such. | 15:04 |
| uksysadmin | ok- just joined in the openstack foundation webinar happening now by bryce and collier | 15:04 |
| tjoy | having a default password would be a major security risk | 15:05 |
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| uksysadmin | micadeyeye, where did you get the image from? | 15:05 |
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| Leander | micadeyeye: sorry, can't help you there, but it's as tjoy says, you need to have an access key | 15:05 |
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| tjoy | micadeyeye: also the kernel doesn't care about the root account, you're worried about the vm image. that's different. | 15:05 |
| tjoy | comes in the same package, though, usually | 15:06 |
| micadeyeye | see http://ngportal.com/dump/Screenshot.png | 15:06 |
| micadeyeye | and what site (like pastebin) can I always use to upload images? | 15:07 |
| tjoy | imgur.com | 15:07 |
| tjoy | so as far as i know you can't log into a fresh openstack image through the qemu console, as such, you need to ssh in | 15:08 |
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| tjoy | if you want you can mount the disk image and change the root password | 15:08 |
| tjoy | but that's cheating | 15:08 |
| mjfork | Leander: found it | 15:10 |
| Leander | :) | 15:10 |
| mjfork | change line 132 to paste.filter_factory = keystone.middleware.nova_keystone_context:NovaKeystoneContext.factory | 15:10 |
| micadeyeye | ok. what would the root password be, when sshing? I guess the details i used when registering the image. right. Something like "ssh -i nova_key.priv root@10.0.0.2" | 15:11 |
| tjoy | right, when you use -i you bypass the password | 15:11 |
| tjoy | you have one half of a keypair that's stronger than a password so it never asks | 15:11 |
| Leander | mjfork: :( http://paste.openstack.org/show/4282/ | 15:12 |
| tjoy | then once you're logged in to the vm you can set root's password to whatever you want, but you should just keep using the key because it's safer | 15:13 |
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| mjfork | leander pastebin ls -l keystone/middleware folder | 15:15 |
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| micadeyeye | i can't get past this msg: | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | [root@micadeyeye ~]# ssh -i /home/novarc root@192.168.0.1 | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | The authenticity of host '192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)' can't be established. | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | RSA key fingerprint is 85:f3:c8:12:f8:90:cd:25:23:6c:88:3f:ea:7f:b5:20. | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | Warning: Permanently added '192.168.0.1' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | Enter passphrase for key '/home/novarc': | 15:17 |
| micadeyeye | Enter passphrase for key '/home/novarc': | 15:17 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4283/ | 15:17 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: 'file /home/novarc' | 15:18 |
| micadeyeye | contains the key-pair | 15:18 |
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| tjoy | mykey0.pem: PEM RSA private key | 15:19 |
| micadeyeye | total 16 | 15:19 |
| micadeyeye | -rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 1029 Jan 9 10:57 cacert.pem | 15:19 |
| micadeyeye | -rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 2513 Jan 9 10:57 cert.pem | 15:19 |
| micadeyeye | -rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 1114 Jan 9 10:57 novarc | 15:19 |
| micadeyeye | -rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 887 Jan 9 10:57 pk.pem | 15:19 |
| mjfork | pastebin conf | 15:19 |
| tjoy | that's what the output of 'file' shoud look slike | 15:19 |
| tjoy | quit pasting | 15:19 |
| Leander | mjfork: keystone.conf? | 15:19 |
| tjoy | micadeye: so that's an SSL cert, it's different from an ssh keypair | 15:20 |
| micadeyeye | tjoy, the pk.pem? | 15:20 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: did you register a keypair with nova? | 15:20 |
| mjfork | Leander: api-paste.ini | 15:20 |
| micadeyeye | I think I did | 15:20 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: that key is for interacting with nova's ec2 api, not for sshing into vms | 15:21 |
| tjoy | i forget the command off-hand to register a keypair | 15:21 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4284/ | 15:21 |
| micadeyeye | euca-add-keypair nova_key > nova_key.priv | 15:21 |
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| micadeyeye | right? | 15:22 |
| tjoy | right | 15:22 |
| tjoy | so use nova_key.priv instead of novarc | 15:22 |
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| mjfork | Leander: i am at a loss, the file is there | 15:24 |
| uksysadmin | (micadeyeye, make sure your priv key is chmod 0600 too and relaunch again with -k nova_key in your run instances line) | 15:24 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: what he said | 15:24 |
| mjfork | Leander: maybe a python/pate expert can help? | 15:24 |
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| Leander | mjfork: my keystone directory is located ~/openstack-keystone-3275af7 | 15:24 |
| mjfork | well, ok. | 15:25 |
| mjfork | assuming this is an all-on-one-box install? | 15:25 |
| Leander | mjfork: to launch and use keystone i always have to use the --config-file=openstack-keystone-3275af7/etc/keystone.conf | 15:25 |
| Leander | before moving to the servers i'm testing it out in a virtual machine | 15:25 |
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| Leander | at the moment keystone is operating in a separate vm, and i have another vm with both the controller and the compute componentes | 15:26 |
| mjfork | does the keystone.middleware exist on controller | 15:26 |
| micadeyeye | euca-reboot-instances -k nova_key.priv i00000005 | 15:26 |
| mjfork | if not, you need to install it there pyhton-keystone there. | 15:26 |
| micadeyeye | doesn't work | 15:26 |
| Leander | ah | 15:27 |
| Leander | dammit | 15:27 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: you're using the wrong command | 15:27 |
| tjoy | -k is an argument to euca-run-instances | 15:27 |
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| tjoy | you'll need to terminate that instance and rebuild it | 15:27 |
| Leander | mjfork: python keystone is already installed | 15:28 |
| mjfork | Leander: do you have that folder - keystone/middleware | 15:28 |
| Leander | mjfork: i can find on the keystone vm, on the controller vm it doesn't show up anywhere, what's the standard location for that folder? | 15:29 |
| mjfork | somewhere under python | 15:30 |
| mjfork | do you have a keystone dir in python? | 15:31 |
| tjoy | try 'find / -name thefile.name | 15:31 |
| tjoy | ' | 15:31 |
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| gnu111 | is there a equivalent of euca_conf --list-nodes in nova? "nova list" does not show the compute nodes. | 15:31 |
| tjoy | gnu111: euca-describe-availability-zones verbose ? | 15:32 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4285/ | 15:32 |
| Leander | that's on the controller vm | 15:32 |
| mjfork | Leander: pastebin nova_auth_token.py | 15:33 |
| gnu111 | tjoy: thanks. I wanted to see which instances are running in which node. | 15:33 |
| tjoy | eh, good luck | 15:33 |
| tjoy | it's probably in there somewhere but i don't know off-hand | 15:34 |
| Leander | mjfork: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4286/ | 15:34 |
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| micadeyeye | tjoy, please see http://fpaste.org/f2tn/ | 15:36 |
| micadeyeye | KeypairNotFound: Keypair /home/micadeyeye/novacreds/nova_key.priv not found for user micadeyeye | 15:36 |
| mjfork | Leander: i think those packages are broken | 15:37 |
| mjfork | Leander: try putting this file in the middleware folder on controller https://github.com/openstack/keystone/raw/stable/diablo/keystone/middleware/nova_keystone_context.py | 15:37 |
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| tjoy | micadeyeye: use nova's stored copy, so... | 15:40 |
| tjoy | euca-run-instances -k nova_key ami-00000005 | 15:40 |
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| Leander | mjfork: now it works. | 15:40 |
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| Leander | mjfork: if install keystone in the same machine as the remaining components, it should automatically install these things correct? | 15:41 |
| mjfork | with good packages, yes | 15:41 |
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| Leander | i installed keystone according to this link: http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=482&p=1745&hilit=keystone+horizon#p1745 | 15:42 |
| Leander | which you pointed out yesteday | 15:43 |
| Leander | yesterday? | 15:43 |
| Leander | * | 15:43 |
| Leander | the only difference being that keystone is running in a separate vm from the rest of openstack | 15:43 |
| mjfork | yeah - it doesn't really talk about the controller node | 15:43 |
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| Leander | also, how can i make keystone start as a service? currently i need to start it as: "keystone --config-file=openstack-keystone-3275af7/etc/keystone.conf &" | 15:45 |
| micadeyeye | tjoy, see http://fpaste.org/J6Ti/ | 15:47 |
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| LarsN | Leander: you could craft an init script (or launchd?) | 15:47 |
| LarsN | Leander: or, for a quick and dirty, I suspect most modern versions of cron support (@boot) | 15:48 |
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| tjoy | micadeyeye: wait 10 minutes and try again | 15:48 |
| Leander | LarsN: i'll have to look into that | 15:49 |
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| Leander | is there any fast way i can test keystone is actually running and perfectly integrated? | 15:49 |
| mjfork | Leander: use dashbaord | 15:51 |
| micadeyeye | tjoy, I thought it wasn't going to request for a password. | 15:51 |
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| Leander | mjfork: isn't that in beta stages as well? | 15:51 |
| Leander | the openstack api should work now right? | 15:52 |
| micadeyeye | see http://fpaste.org/fTa6/ | 15:52 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: did you chmod the keyfile to 600? | 15:54 |
| tjoy | ssh won't work if it thinks people are going to snoop on your private key | 15:54 |
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| micadeyeye | tjoy, yes | 15:55 |
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| Leander | is there any command line tool available to test out the openstack api? can i do it with curl? | 15:55 |
| micadeyeye | chmod 600 nova* | 15:56 |
| tjoy | micadeyeye: mount the vm image and dig through /root/.ssh and /etc/password and /etc/shadow | 15:56 |
| tjoy | find out if there's a username you should be using | 15:56 |
| tjoy | also find the documentation for the image package you downloaded | 15:57 |
| tjoy | find out who made it and bother them | 15:57 |
| micadeyeye | Okay | 15:57 |
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| micadeyeye | thanks | 15:57 |
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| Leander | mjfork: is there any command line tool available to teste the openstack api? if not how can use it with the euca2ools? | 15:58 |
| mjfork | not away of one off hand | 15:59 |
| Leander | do the euca2ools still work now, or does it require more configuration changes? | 16:00 |
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| Leander | mjfork: do i need to change the nova.conf file to enable openstack api? | 16:04 |
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| mjfork | Leander: no, just the pastes | 16:06 |
| heyho | Is there a way to use nova-volume via dashboard? Or via nova-manage without using eucatools? | 16:06 |
| Leander | mjfork: so the euca-* commands still work then? What's the url to invoke the openstack api? | 16:07 |
| mjfork | Leander: no, euca won't | 16:08 |
| mjfork | you have other steps to setup novarc right | 16:08 |
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| mjfork | heyho, only in devel version i believe, not diablo | 16:08 |
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| Leander | mjfork: no euca then, but how do i access the openstack api, i can't find the url anyhere :S | 16:09 |
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| Spirilis | there is a 'nova' cli command Leander | 16:13 |
| Spirilis | comes from the "python-novaclient" package | 16:13 |
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| Spirilis | and if you run Horizon (the Dashboard), that internally uses the native openstack API if I'm not mistaken | 16:13 |
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| Spirilis | otherwise everything can be hit with curl too... probably have to dive into the developer docs to see the semantics of how to use that | 16:14 |
| Spirilis | euca2ools can work, if you've set up EC2 credential tokens for your user in keystone | 16:15 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: thanks for the pointer, but i still can't figure out where the URL is for the API :S | 16:16 |
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| aferrari | Hi guys... | 16:17 |
| aferrari | can recomend what keystone version use? | 16:17 |
| aferrari | i have running swift | 16:17 |
| aferrari | into my lab | 16:17 |
| aferrari | using tempauth | 16:18 |
| Spirilis | Leander: URL for the API is basically keystone, so in my .bashrc I set this: http://<keystoneserver>:5000/v2.0/ | 16:18 |
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| Spirilis | for euca2ools, it's the url of the nova-api server, so http://<nova-api-server>:8773/services/Cloud/ | 16:18 |
| Spirilis | that would be the EC2_URL fyi | 16:18 |
| Spirilis | erp | 16:18 |
| Spirilis | sorry that first url, I set NOVA_URL to that. | 16:18 |
| Spirilis | also make sure to set NOVA_PROJECT_ID=<tenant>, and NOVA_VERSION=1.1 | 16:19 |
| Spirilis | and also NOVA_USERNAME, NOVA_PASSWORD | 16:19 |
| Spirilis | then running "nova list" should work.. and show you whatever instances are running (or none, an empty table, if none are running) | 16:19 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: how do get the API key for my user? | 16:21 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: please forgive me if there's a sort of manual wiki which details these procedures, but i can't seem to locate any :/ | 16:24 |
| Spirilis | Leander: you actually don't need an api key | 16:24 |
| Spirilis | the way it works, from what I gather, is that Keystone has 3 ways of authenticating you. | 16:25 |
| Spirilis | 1. Using your username and password, along with a tenant | 16:25 |
| Spirilis | 2. Using a single string, called an API key, which must be stored in keystone's "token" table and keystone looks up the token in that table to find your username & tenant (you can use this to generate tokens that will become hard-coded in cloud-aware applications, for example) | 16:26 |
| Leander | Spirilis: the nova command insists on asking for an API-KEY :/ | 16:26 |
| Spirilis | 3. Using EC2 credentials, in which case you hit nova-api with an EC2 access key and secret key, nova-api asks keystone if it knows who the heck you are based on those, and keystone should reply with your user & tenant if it finds that in its "credentials" table | 16:26 |
| Spirilis | ah k, it's possible that's just its way of saying "permission denied" | 16:26 |
| Leander | it does the same for the admin user | 16:27 |
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| Spirilis | pop into the mysql database, look at keystone's database. make sure your username & password match what's in there, and you're using a tenant that's correct | 16:27 |
| Spirilis | and also make sure the user has been assigned some roles for that tenant | 16:27 |
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| Leander | i don't think keystone is using mysql at the moment | 16:28 |
| Leander | also i have to leave for a while, i'm still in a confused state | 16:29 |
| Leander | i'll be back | 16:29 |
| Leander | thanks for your help so far mjfork and Spirilis | 16:29 |
| Spirilis | ah k, well, check whatever db type it's using :) sqlite probably | 16:29 |
| Spirilis | np | 16:29 |
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| aferrari | guys is the latest keystone version from openstack github working well? | 16:29 |
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| aferrari | i see a few forks into cloudbuilders git too | 16:30 |
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| Spirilis | I'm using the latest stable/diablo, works fine for me... not sure what the latest essex is like | 16:30 |
| Spirilis | I'm only using it with nova and glance though, not swift | 16:30 |
| aferrari | ok... | 16:30 |
| Spirilis | might have to get adventurous with my swift POC install soon... | 16:30 |
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| spackest | mjfork: my system is in a funny state, like euca-describe-images times out, think I will just try wiping. so to get to where I was, I use an interfaces file with only eth0 and sometime I run UPDATE networks SET bridge_interface = 'eth0'? | 17:04 |
| mjfork | your conf is wrong | 17:05 |
| mjfork | spackest: pastebin your conf | 17:05 |
| mjfork | nvoa.conf | 17:05 |
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| spackest | http://pastebin.com/eSpSjQjH | 17:06 |
| spackest | yeah, that br100 for vlan probably isn't right, huh? :) | 17:06 |
| mjfork | yeah | 17:07 |
| mjfork | forgot to specify that last night :-( | 17:07 |
| spackest | it's in the bug that I read several times, so I should have remembered | 17:07 |
| spackest | but the bug says --vlan_interface=eth1, is that right? I didn't configure eth1 | 17:07 |
| mjfork | yeah..point is it needs ot be eth0 | 17:08 |
| mjfork | eerrr an eth dev | 17:08 |
| spackest | so --vlan_interface=eth0 ? | 17:08 |
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| mjfork | yes | 17:10 |
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| spackest | have this conf http://pastebin.com/WLCxug7t restarted all the services and still timing out on euca-describe-images | 17:11 |
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| mjfork | can you reboot | 17:16 |
| mjfork | reset all networking | 17:16 |
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| spackest | sure, rebooting :) | 17:17 |
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| spackest | for some reason my /dev/sdb doesn't mount properly sometimes and when I try to mount it I get some bad magic number error | 17:18 |
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| spackest | maybe I will just try loopback | 17:23 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: you there? | 17:23 |
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| anpl | Hi | 17:24 |
| anpl | I trying to create an RHEL variant ( SL 6.1) AMI for openstack | 17:25 |
| anpl | I started the KVM vm installation | 17:25 |
| Spirilis | Leander: yo | 17:25 |
| anpl | when I setup the network should I keep it as DHCP or disabled | 17:26 |
| spackest | I do wonder why http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Nova_conf-d2s367.html talks about /dev/sda6 but then uses /dev/sdb1 for much of the rest | 17:26 |
| spackest | I guess the guide does say "You can substitute the correct device name of this dedicated partition based on your local setup while following the instructions." | 17:27 |
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| spackest | but the guide doesn't "We have referred to this partition in the rest of the chapter as /dev/sda6." it sometimes uses /dev/sdb1 | 17:27 |
| Leander | Spirilis: i have two users admin and demo, both keep displaying this error: "You must provide an API key, eithervia --apikey or viaenv[NOVA_API_KEY] " when running :nova --username admin list | 17:28 |
| spackest | annegentle: any word on a new getting started guide? not sure if you saw my message, but I couldn't see it in what I built | 17:28 |
| Leander | Spirilis: both were created with http://paste.openstack.org/show/4255/ | 17:30 |
| Leander | created with the commands in this link | 17:30 |
| Leander | however i can't find out how to obtain an api key | 17:31 |
| mjfork | i think that is a keystone key | 17:33 |
| mjfork | keystone token | 17:33 |
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| Spirilis | yeah what about setting NOVA_USERNAME, NOVA_PASSWORD (to admin and admin, as it appears your admin password is just "admin") then the rest of the variables I mentioned (NOVA_PROJECT_ID=admin, NOVA_VERSION=1.1) and run "nova list" without the --username option | 17:36 |
| Spirilis | now one thing I noticed is your admin user doesn't have the role "sysadmin" and/or "netadmin" to the admin tenant | 17:36 |
| Spirilis | so you might want to run: | 17:36 |
| Spirilis | keystone-manage role grant sysadmin admin admin | 17:36 |
| Spirilis | keystone-manage role grant netadmin admin admin | 17:37 |
| Spirilis | otherwise I'm guessing the "nova" cmds won't succeed since they don't technically have access to pull that info... | 17:37 |
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| anpl | when creating openstack ami, what should be the network setting? deafualt eth0/dhcp will do? | 17:39 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4289/ | 17:41 |
| Leander | i've also set the variables and still asks me for an API_KEY | 17:41 |
| Leander | :/ | 17:41 |
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| anpl | i have created centos.img using qemu-kvm and need to upload it to glance | 17:47 |
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| anpl | how can i do that, i use fedora and do not have uec-publish command | 17:47 |
| Leander | anpl: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4245/ | 17:47 |
| Leander | i think this might help you | 17:48 |
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| Spirilis | Leander: ahh durr, my bad, you have to "create" the sysadmin and netadmin roles in keystone first :-) | 17:49 |
| Spirilis | keystone-manage role add sysadmin | 17:49 |
| Spirilis | keystone-manage role add netadmin | 17:49 |
| Spirilis | *then* run the cmds I posted above :) | 17:49 |
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| anpl | Thanks Leander, I had used this and launched the ubuntu instances already | 17:50 |
| anpl | using dashboard n glance commands | 17:50 |
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| anpl | but now i have a .img file | 17:50 |
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| anpl | those steps talks about ari, aki and ami | 17:51 |
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| anpl | how about img? | 17:51 |
| Leander | Spirilis: still getting the "You must provide an API key, eithervia --apikey or viaenv[NOVA_API_KEY]" | 17:51 |
| anpl | i mean .img created using qemu-kvm vm installation | 17:51 |
| Leander | anpl: sorry, can't help you any further :/ it's the only thing i know how to do so far | 17:52 |
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| Leander | have you tried the official documentation for glance? | 17:52 |
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| Leander | Spirilis: i've got to run, is there any documentation i can read to get up to date with generating these keys, i can't find anything in the official documentation | 17:59 |
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| Spirilis | Leander: dunno, I think mjfork helped me figure that one out last month... I don't recall any good docs on it. | 18:03 |
| Spirilis | What I can guarantee for you is that you DON'T have to create an api key. Not sure what's breaking down here | 18:03 |
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| Leander | well | 18:04 |
| Spirilis | That api key error is a generic error I think (and rather silly IMO) | 18:04 |
| Leander | i guess i'll see you guys again on monday | 18:04 |
| Leander | have a nice weekend | 18:04 |
| Leander | thanks for the help so far | 18:04 |
| Leander | cya | 18:04 |
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| mjfork | what did i help with? | 18:07 |
| Spirilis | I think you were helping me fumble through getting the 'nova' cmd to work | 18:07 |
| mjfork | ahh | 18:08 |
| Spirilis | setting the various NOVA_* variables, etc | 18:08 |
| mjfork | i think kiall has teh working novarc | 18:08 |
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| ppradhan | anpl: hello | 18:14 |
| ppradhan | anpl: I have keystone and horizon installed and running. when I login It says unathorized ..http://pastebin.com/28Qhkivf | 18:15 |
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| anpl | ppradhan: hi, sorry I was away | 18:32 |
| ppradhan | anpl: no problem | 18:33 |
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| anpl | ppradhan: paste bin your keystone-manage commands you used for creating users n endpointtemplates | 18:34 |
| warik | I can't use keystone-manage, i get: ImportError: cannot import name joinedload | 18:34 |
| anpl | mjfork: you there? | 18:35 |
| ppradhan | anpl: here it is http://pastebin.com/3wL2Xygi. | 18:35 |
| mjfork | yes | 18:35 |
| ppradhan | anpl: the keystone-manage binary i used is at openstack-keystone-3275af7/bin | 18:36 |
| anpl | ppradhan: how to access that url please send full url | 18:37 |
| mjfork | whats up? | 18:38 |
| ppradhan | anpl: you mean the pastebin's url? | 18:38 |
| anpl | mjfork: hi , I have created a .img file using qemu-kvm, I do not have ubuntu n wec-publish commands | 18:38 |
| anpl | ppradhan: yes | 18:38 |
| mjfork | ok | 18:38 |
| ppradhan | anpl: http://pastebin.com/3wL2Xygi this didnot work? | 18:39 |
| anpl | mjfork: ho wcan I get ari and aki and ami files for uploading with glance command | 18:40 |
| mjfork | you need to upload an image to use? | 18:40 |
| oubiwann | is there a community coordinator for OpenStack? for example, someone who would be involved in promoting development sprints, etc.? | 18:40 |
| anpl | yes | 18:41 |
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| mjfork | anpl http://paste.openstack.org/show/4293/ | 18:44 |
| anpl | ppradhan: openstack-keystone-3275af7/bin/user list ? and pastebin keystonelog | 18:44 |
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| mjfork | oubiwann: ttx is the release manager | 18:45 |
| anpl | mjfork: i do not have lucid-server-cloudimg-amd64-loader, the ari n aki files, should i use host machines /boot files? | 18:46 |
| oubiwann | mjfork: yup | 18:46 |
| ppradhan | anpl: keystone.log is empty and here is ther user list http://pastebin.com/E6YNeWEP | 18:46 |
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| anpl | ppradhan: tenant is empty, i guess you should add admin to a tenant | 18:47 |
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| anpl | ppradhan: no thats fine | 18:48 |
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| ppradhan | anpl: yes I can see admin if i do tenant list | 18:49 |
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| mjfork | anpl get that file and unzip | 18:50 |
| mjfork | all 3 are there | 18:50 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: what is the issue you have? | 18:50 |
| anpl | mjfork: thanks | 18:50 |
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| ppradhan | Can't login to dashboard. getting Unauthorized error http://pastebin.com/28Qhkivf | 18:52 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: I was referring to your link http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=482&p=1745&hilit=keystone+horizon#p1745 | 18:52 |
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| mjfork | bin/keystone-manage token list | 18:52 |
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| ppradhan | I can see the token http://pastebin.com/GhEAV5Dj | 18:53 |
| koolhead17 | hola Razique | 18:53 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle: hey there | 18:53 |
| jkyle | glance details only shows public images, how do I show _all_ images currently registered? | 18:53 |
| mjfork | paste dashbaord conf | 18:53 |
| jkyle | glance index shows some, is that all of them? | 18:54 |
| anpl | mjfork: i am confused which files in the kvm host machine's/boot | 18:54 |
| mjfork | anpl not sure what you are asking | 18:54 |
| anpl | mjfork: ls -l /boot http://paste.openstack.org/show/4295/ | 18:54 |
| anpl | mjfork: how to get the ari n aki files | 18:55 |
| mjfork | anpl not sure what you are doing? | 18:55 |
| mjfork | do you just want an image in glance? | 18:55 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: here http://pastebin.com/TAiL1ze5 | 18:55 |
| anpl | mjfork: yes, i am trying to create a custom image. I created a .img file using qem-kvm | 18:56 |
| anpl | mjfork: now i am trying to add it using glance command | 18:57 |
| Razique | hey mjfork :) | 18:57 |
| Razique | koolhead17: hoi :) | 18:57 |
| Razique | anpl hello | 18:57 |
| koolhead17 | Razique: i don`t see many old timers here :( | 18:58 |
| Razique | what old timers means ? | 18:58 |
| anpl | mjfork: lucid-server-cloudimg-amd64-loader is it the initrd ? | 18:58 |
| anpl | razique hi | 18:58 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: what credentials are you using? | 18:58 |
| koolhead17 | vid and others :) | 18:58 |
| mjfork | anpl i have not done a custom iamge | 18:58 |
| Razique | oh | 18:58 |
| koolhead17 | hey soren | 18:58 |
| Razique | maybe the TZ ? | 18:58 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 18:59 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: and bin/keystone-manage user list | 18:59 |
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| anpl | mjfork: thanjks, I think i got it now | 19:01 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: http://pastebin.com/mRDdNZhg | 19:04 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: this is what i have done http://pastebin.com/3wL2Xygi | 19:04 |
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| mjfork | are you logging in as admin/admin | 19:08 |
| ppradhan | yes | 19:08 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: ^ | 19:08 |
| mjfork | ok | 19:08 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: hmm, those look like mine :-) | 19:08 |
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| mjfork | ppradhan: did you also follow my directions for dashbaord/keystone ? | 19:09 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: yes eveything followed from there | 19:09 |
| mjfork | did you restart dashboard / kesytone? | 19:10 |
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| mjfork | (can't imagine it matterS :-() | 19:10 |
| ppradhan | yes | 19:10 |
| ppradhan | i did | 19:10 |
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| mjfork | is this on login, or do you get in and then see this? | 19:11 |
| ppradhan | no I couldnt get in | 19:11 |
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| mjfork | ppradhan: pastebin keystone log | 19:11 |
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| anpl | mjfork: I used ram disk and kernel from /boot of the kvm host | 19:13 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: its empty. I am looking at bin/keystone.log | 19:13 |
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| mjfork | need console where it was launched | 19:14 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: may be horizon not hitting keystone? | 19:17 |
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| mjfork | do you have the console where you launched bin/keystone? | 19:17 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: yes | 19:18 |
| mjfork | is verbose on? | 19:18 |
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| ppradhan | how do i check that | 19:19 |
| mjfork | check keystone conf | 19:19 |
| ppradhan | this is what i am seeing http://pastebin.com/EyKEVmf3 | 19:19 |
| mjfork | open keystone conf and check for verbose/debug | 19:20 |
| mjfork | set both to true | 19:20 |
| ppradhan | ok | 19:20 |
| ppradhan | ok got this in keystone window when i try to login http://pastebin.com/pKrLYdFn | 19:22 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: can you paste SELECT * FROM users; run against sqllite3 | 19:25 |
| mjfork | sqlite3 keystone.db | 19:25 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: i think I only have sqlite not sqlte3 . does this matter? | 19:28 |
| mjfork | i don't think | 19:28 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: here it is | 19:31 |
| ppradhan | I can see keystone.db in 2 locations | 19:32 |
| ppradhan | one is at bin/ | 19:32 |
| ppradhan | and other is at one step back | 19:32 |
| ppradhan | http://pastebin.com/0bpW2sEn | 19:32 |
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| ppradhan | and that o/p is from bin/keystone.db.. the other one is empty.. | 19:33 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: matches mine, save the password. | 19:34 |
| mjfork | can you verify you ran ./keystone-manage user add admin admin | 19:34 |
| ppradhan | yes | 19:35 |
| ppradhan | I can see admin at ./keyston-manage user list | 19:35 |
| mjfork | no, with that password | 19:36 |
| mjfork | check your history | 19:36 |
| ppradhan | i only did keystone-manage user add admin admin | 19:38 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: how to add user with the password? I think I am not getting you | 19:44 |
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| aferrari | hi guys, I need help for sync my keystone db | 19:47 |
| aferrari | Exception: Database (sqlite:///keystone.db) is not up to date (current=0, latest=10); run `keystone-manage database sync` or override your migrate version manually (see docs) | 19:48 |
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| aferrari | some advice? | 19:48 |
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| aferrari | how i can override the version manually? | 19:48 |
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| mjfork | ppradhan: try desteroying keystone.db and start over | 20:01 |
| mjfork | rerun all openstack commands | 20:01 |
| mjfork | aferrari: do you have any data in your keystone? | 20:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #916199 in keystone "AttributeError: 'Service' object has no attribute 'description' " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916199 | 20:01 |
| aferrari | yes I have created some users | 20:02 |
| aferrari | but I can delete if needed | 20:02 |
| mjfork | try renaming your existing DB | 20:02 |
| mjfork | and restart keystone | 20:02 |
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| aferrari | ok | 20:02 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: I can see keystone.db at 3 places. openstack-keystone/etc , openstack-ketstone/bin and openstack-keystone. which one is the correc one? | 20:04 |
| aferrari | i think keystone.db is create where you are into the console | 20:05 |
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| ppradhan | hmm.. but which one keystone reads | 20:07 |
| mjfork | all depends on where you lanched it perhpas | 20:09 |
| Spirilis | yeesh I am happy I switched my keystone to using mysql when I did it up | 20:11 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: instead of bin/keystone i did : cd bin && ./keystone. now I am in.. but seeing lots of errors | 20:13 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: this is what i see http://pastebin.com/55RvN9Ly | 20:15 |
| aferrari | <Spirilis> can share your steps ? | 20:16 |
| Spirilis | aferrari: very easy, edit /etc/keystone/keystone.conf (or whatever you're using for keystone's config) and change the "sql_connection" string | 20:16 |
| aferrari | can post in pastebin your keystone.conf? | 20:17 |
| aferrari | are you using this with swift? | 20:17 |
| Spirilis | to something like this: sql_connection = mysql://keystone:nobodyseesthispassword@10.104.51.141/keystone | 20:17 |
| Spirilis | I am not using it with swift atm. that shouldn't matter though | 20:17 |
| aferrari | ok perfect | 20:17 |
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| aferrari | and the db schema? | 20:17 |
| Spirilis | create a 'keystone' db in a mysql database, grant all privileges on keystone.* to keystone@localhost identified by 'nobodyseesthispassword'; | 20:17 |
| aferrari | ok and the schema? | 20:18 |
| Spirilis | and grant all privileges on keystone.* to keystone@'%' identified by 'nobodyseesthispassword'; | 20:18 |
| Spirilis | from what I can tell, keystone-manage generates the schema or there is some database sync cmd | 20:18 |
| Spirilis | let me find it | 20:18 |
| aferrari | thanks | 20:18 |
| mjfork | sorry - tied up on phone | 20:18 |
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| Spirilis | actually no I don't think there is a "preload" cmd. keystone might just set up the schema when it starts or when you first run keystone-manage | 20:19 |
| aferrari | ok perfect... some one into the chat are using keystone with swift? | 20:19 |
| Spirilis | bear in mind that mysql:// syntax... mysql://<user>:<password>@<mysqlserver>/<mysqlDB> works with the sql string for nova, glance, etc. too | 20:20 |
| aferrari | the doc is a little confuse and the git have diferent intructions than doc | 20:20 |
| Spirilis | nah, I may be tackling this one soon myself though. tieing swift into keystone | 20:20 |
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| Spirilis | swift was my first POC but it's just sitting around doing nothing (running 1.4.3 with swauth) | 20:21 |
| aferrari | i have running with tempauth | 20:21 |
| aferrari | but the control is poor | 20:21 |
| aferrari | I need something for make public tenant | 20:21 |
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| newopen | hi | 20:22 |
| Spirilis | yeah | 20:22 |
| Spirilis | swauth was alright, but, I'd vastly prefer keystone I think | 20:22 |
| newopen | i try to install dashboard on centos but i meet many problems | 20:22 |
| aferrari | yes my too with centos have package issue | 20:23 |
| aferrari | can't install swift into them | 20:23 |
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| aferrari | i need switch to ubuntu | 20:23 |
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| newopen | can you give me an exemple of keystone.conf file? | 20:23 |
| newopen | or a tuto of dashboard instalation with the configuration of keystone | 20:24 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: is this related to incorrect token ? http://pastebin.com/55RvN9Ly | 20:26 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: api-paste.ini on nova controller | 20:27 |
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| mjfork | and if keystone is enabled...then make sure openstackx is isntalled and verify os_api_extensinos dir is pointing at a folder with admin.py | 20:29 |
| newopen | keystone-manage doesen't work | 20:30 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: ok checking | 20:32 |
| Spirilis | fwiw, this is my (working) keystone.conf: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4298/ | 20:33 |
| newopen | when i configure keystone and i run OPENSTACK_ADMIN_TOKEN,it show me an eroor:attribute error none type | 20:34 |
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| spackest | mjfork: well euca-describe-images still times out. pondering reinstalling 11.10 and trying devstack | 20:38 |
| spackest | feels pretty close, but I don't know how to debug | 20:38 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #916219 in nova "Per-userness of "nova list" is confused" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916219 | 20:41 |
| newopen | what about ERROR: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id' when i run keystone-manage token add | 20:43 |
| DJ-RPM-roll | good day! after rebooting a nova-network host, is there a trick that one might employ to access the instances on nodes behind it? (Vlan mode, here)... i can see the vnet MAC addresses when i examine the bridge interface, but they don't get registered in the arp cache on the nova-network server after reboot... anyone have a strategy for dealing with this? | 20:43 |
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| mjfork | spackest: keystone auth or nova auth? | 20:44 |
| spackest | I did install keystone, but would that be getting in the way of describing images? | 20:45 |
| mjfork | euca2ools + kesytone doesn't work well | 20:50 |
| kbringard | http://paste.openstack.org/show/3911/ | 20:52 |
| kbringard | using this script to add users to keystone works well for me | 20:52 |
| kbringard | it creates ec2 keys and assigns sysadmin and netadmin roles | 20:52 |
| kbringard | and dumps out a novarc that you should be able to use to use the euca2ools | 20:52 |
| spackest | nova image-list also is timing out | 20:53 |
| Spirilis | ah I was looking for that earlier :) | 20:53 |
| Spirilis | thx for the link | 20:53 |
| kbringard | np | 20:54 |
| kbringard | your milage may vary, but it works well for me | 20:54 |
| Spirilis | LOL oh that's funny, I went to bookmark that one and it turns out I had it bookmarked | 20:54 |
| Spirilis | just didn't notice it... | 20:54 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: openstackx is installed. where do I set osapi_extensions? | 21:07 |
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| mjfork | ppradhan: nova.conf | 21:10 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: can you paste your os_api line from you nova.conf? | 21:13 |
| mjfork | it poitns at a dir named extesnions | 21:13 |
| mjfork | with a file named admin.py | 21:13 |
| mjfork | can't get now | 21:14 |
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| ppradhan | ok | 21:18 |
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| Spirilis | ppradhan: --osapi_extensions_path=/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openstackx-0.2-py2.7.egg/extensions | 21:18 |
| Spirilis | bear in mind I installed mine all from git, no rpm or .deb packages or whatever | 21:18 |
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| japhar81 | Anyone have any thoughts on swift-container-sync does not exist? trying to follow the startup doc, and swift-init rest start is bombing | 21:20 |
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| praefect | damn! I lost that piece of info! anyone remember what the switch is to force the destination-NAT to a specific API server for the metadata queries? | 21:21 |
| ppradhan | Spirilis: ok.. checking | 21:21 |
| praefect | the redirection to 8773 to grab teh metadata | 21:21 |
| praefect | thank you | 21:21 |
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| Spirilis | praefect: --ec2_dmz_host on each nova-compute node? | 21:23 |
| praefect | YES!!! i think this is it.. many thanks | 21:23 |
| Spirilis | erp | 21:23 |
| Spirilis | on each nova-network node, actually. | 21:23 |
| Spirilis | it's only read by nova-network IIRC | 21:23 |
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| praefect | that's right | 21:24 |
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| japhar81 | so ive followed the beginners guide line by line -- twice now -- i keep getting swift-container-sync does not exist when i bring up swift rest, and the test curl call returns HTTP/500 | 21:43 |
| japhar81 | anyone see this before? | 21:43 |
| notmyname | japhar81: my guess for swift-container-sync is that it wasn't packaged properly in whatever you used to install it. for the 500 error, check syslog to see where the source of the error is | 21:44 |
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| japhar81 | i used apt-get per the guide | 21:46 |
| japhar81 | is there another source i can use? | 21:46 |
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| japhar81 | and is there a separate syslog for swift? i dont see any errors | 21:48 |
| notmyname | what version of swift are you using? | 21:48 |
| notmyname | swift used syslog to log. your syslog configuration may redirect that to other locations | 21:49 |
| japhar81 | looks like 1.4.3-0ubuntu2 | 21:50 |
| japhar81 | syslog isnt redirected | 21:50 |
| japhar81 | i see container-replicator and account-replicator | 21:50 |
| japhar81 | just dont see errors | 21:50 |
| japhar81 | ok, caught the error, but it's not exactly useful.. | 21:52 |
| japhar81 | error with PUT | 21:52 |
| japhar81 | permission denied /srv/4/node/sdb4/accounts | 21:53 |
| japhar81 | but i dont have a /srv? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | japhar81: looks like you need to change the "devices" config variable in your account-server.conf | 21:55 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: the example api-pase.ini file from openstack-keystone/example/paste should be changed or I can just overwrie the old one from this? | 21:56 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: what is issue? | 21:57 |
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| japhar81 | i dont have a devices config in account-server.conf.. (using http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/openstackbookv2-0_csscorp.pdf) | 21:57 |
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| notmyname | japhar81: just about all of the config options for swift are described here: http://swift.openstack.org/deployment_guide.html | 21:58 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: admin.py is now pointed.. after login I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/GTf0C2k9 | 21:58 |
| notmyname | japhar81: also, you can look at the source tree (https://github.com/openstack/swift/tree/master/etc) for all of the sample configs (they are very well documented | 21:59 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: out of sync openstackx and nova i am guessing | 22:00 |
| mjfork | i need to run. | 22:00 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: ok.. | 22:00 |
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| japhar81 | got it --thanks! | 22:03 |
| DJ-RPM-roll | after rebooting a nova-network host, is there a trick that one might employ to access the instances on nodes behind it? (Vlan mode, here)... i can see the vnet MAC addresses when i examine the bridge interface, but they don't get registered in the arp cache on the nova-network server after reboot... manually adding them doesn't work... making the if promisc also doesn't work.. anyone have a strategy for dealing with this... or am i hosed? | 22:03 |
| DJ-RPM-roll | dnsmasq.conf contains all of the proper MACs as well | 22:04 |
| DJ-RPM-roll | iptables look sane.. | 22:05 |
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| anpl | any one have success in creating custom Redhat/Scientific Linux/CentOS ami | 22:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #916267 in nova "Nova manage blows up with missing flag" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916267 | 22:15 |
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| RobinClowers | hello openstack | 22:22 |
| RobinClowers | anyone help me getting off the ground? | 22:22 |
| RobinClowers | I am trying to set up devstack on unbuntu 11.10 | 22:22 |
| DJ-RPM-roll | good luck getting any help in here :) | 22:22 |
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| RobinClowers | lol | 22:22 |
| spackest | RobinClowers: have you tried http://devstack.org/ ? | 22:23 |
| RobinClowers | yeah, that's what I'm using | 22:23 |
| RobinClowers | got through the install, says everything is successful | 22:23 |
| spackest | I have been trying to launch an instance for I think over a week | 22:23 |
| RobinClowers | I can get to the horizon dashboard | 22:23 |
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| spackest | I'm just switching to devstack | 22:23 |
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| spackest | it is running right now | 22:23 |
| RobinClowers | but all the ecua commands fails | 22:24 |
| RobinClowers | fail* | 22:24 |
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| RobinClowers | and I created an instance in the dashboard | 22:24 |
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| spackest | have you tried the nova commands? I hear they might work better | 22:24 |
| RobinClowers | but it does not show up when I do nova-manage instance list | 22:24 |
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| RobinClowers | also, the devstack readme says at the end you should be able to do nova list | 22:25 |
| RobinClowers | but I get an error saying "Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials" | 22:25 |
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| RobinClowers | I checked, and the environment variables are loaded | 22:25 |
| fractal_synapse | hi All | 22:25 |
| RobinClowers | hi | 22:26 |
| fractal_synapse | Is there anyone here who can help answer a crowbar question? | 22:27 |
| RobinClowers | thanks for the suggestion spackest | 22:27 |
| spackest | hmm, well, stack.sh just finished, I do nova-manage instance list and get something about no such table: instance_types | 22:27 |
| spackest | awesome! | 22:27 |
| RobinClowers | yeah I had that too | 22:27 |
| spackest | guessing I need a db sync? | 22:28 |
| RobinClowers | try nova-manage db sync | 22:28 |
| RobinClowers | that is supposed to set up the db for you | 22:28 |
| spackest | yeah, much better | 22:28 |
| RobinClowers | really lame that devstack does not actually work out of the box :/ | 22:28 |
| spackest | yip | 22:28 |
| RobinClowers | I'm sure a lot of people work hard on it | 22:28 |
| spackest | and the getting started guide doesn't either in my experience | 22:29 |
| RobinClowers | yeah | 22:29 |
| fractal_synapse | has anyon here built discovery images for the openstack diablo/crowbar? | 22:29 |
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| spackest | RobinClowers: does the /nova/images_and_snapshots/ link for you on your main host? | 22:30 |
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| spackest | I get an error that says The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. | 22:30 |
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| spackest | I was going there to start an instance | 22:30 |
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| RobinClowers | you mean in the dashboard? | 22:31 |
| spackest | yes | 22:32 |
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| RobinClowers | hmm, no | 22:33 |
| RobinClowers | I'm on stable/diablo branch because I thought it might work better | 22:33 |
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| RobinClowers | and I think the dashboard is a bit different than the master branch version | 22:33 |
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| spackest | how did you launch an instance? | 22:35 |
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| RobinClowers | that lists images, clicked launch | 22:35 |
| RobinClowers | wups | 22:36 |
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| RobinClowers | /dash/2/images | 22:36 |
| RobinClowers | that's the path I ended up on | 22:36 |
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| RobinClowers | I believe the 2 is the demo use id | 22:36 |
| spackest | hmm, now that link works for me. how very strange | 22:37 |
| RobinClowers | odd | 22:37 |
| RobinClowers | so you must be on the master version of devstack? | 22:38 |
| RobinClowers | I think that installs essex rather than diablo | 22:38 |
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| spackest | I launched an instance, the dashboard says it's active, but it has ip of 10.0.0.2. looks like my FLOATING_RANGE was ignored | 22:41 |
| RobinClowers | can you see the logs? | 22:42 |
| RobinClowers | or vnc to it? | 22:42 |
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| RobinClowers | mine says it launched but I can't get to it | 22:42 |
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| spackest | no on vnc, but it looks like that should have been FIXED_RANGE for me | 22:43 |
| RobinClowers | how do you set the ip ranges? | 22:43 |
| RobinClowers | I have seen reference to that but never quite understood it | 22:43 |
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| spackest | looks like the FIXED_RANGE is the range of ip addresses for the launched instances to use? like mine is 10.88.39.96/27 | 22:46 |
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| spackest | well, now when I launch the dashboard just says Error for my wouldbe instance | 22:51 |
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| RobinClowers | weird | 22:52 |
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| spackest | guess I should be doing this on a vm for easier wipes and restarts :) | 22:53 |
| RobinClowers | is FIXED_RANGE an environment variable? | 22:53 |
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| RobinClowers | yeah working in a vm is nice | 22:53 |
| RobinClowers | I am using virtualbox, it seems to work ok | 22:53 |
| spackest | yes | 22:53 |
| RobinClowers | yeah I don't have that set | 22:53 |
| spackest | it is one you can set before you run stack.sh | 22:53 |
| RobinClowers | oh I see | 22:54 |
| RobinClowers | right | 22:54 |
| spackest | I read through this a bit http://devstack.org/stack.sh.html | 22:54 |
| spackest | found a few things that I am now setting | 22:54 |
| RobinClowers | yeah I found that too | 22:55 |
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| RobinClowers | do you know where log files are stored? | 22:58 |
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| RobinClowers | wondering if we can dig into those to get some more detail about why things aren't working | 22:59 |
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| RobinClowers | @spackest do you know where logs are stored? | 23:01 |
| larissa | RobinClowers: Error: "spackest" is not a valid command. | 23:01 |
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| ashvaibhav | Need to compare eucalyptus and openstack for my implementation. What are the cons of using eucalyptus over openstack? | 23:02 |
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| tjoy | does eucalyptus still reserve some features for its paid tier? | 23:04 |
| spackest1 | RobinClowers: I can shell in as the stack user and then do "screen -x stack" page through the screen <control-A><control-N> and see some logs being tailed | 23:04 |
| ashvaibhav | @tjoy: I did not find any such thing till now... eucalyptus too seems to be totally free | 23:05 |
| larissa | ashvaibhav: Error: "tjoy:" is not a valid command. | 23:05 |
| ashvaibhav | tjoy: I did not find any such thing till now... eucalyptus too seems to be totally free | 23:06 |
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| spackest1 | hmm, they used to be in places like /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log when I installed via package | 23:07 |
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| RobinClowers | yeah it looks like devstack redirects logs to syslog | 23:07 |
| RobinClowers | thanks | 23:07 |
| tjoy | ashvaibhav: http://www.eucalyptus.com/products/eee/features | 23:09 |
| tjoy | that was what i could find over the course of a couple minutes | 23:09 |
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| tjoy | not conclusive as to whether they are still expecting money for the software itself though | 23:09 |
| tjoy | maybe ask in ##eucalyptus | 23:09 |
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| ashvaibhav | okay... thanks tjoy for that. Any other benefit of using openstack except that it is completely free for all the features | 23:10 |
| anpl | How can | 23:10 |
| anpl | how can I get nova credentials for openstack with keystone and dashboard | 23:11 |
| tjoy | ashvaibhav: i am sadly not up to speed on what eucalyptus does these days | 23:11 |
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| ashvaibhav | tjoy - no probs... Still had a few questions regarding open stack like, how are its storage services provided? | 23:12 |
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| tjoy | ashvaibhav: there are a few flavors of storage services, what exactly are you referring to? | 23:13 |
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| tjoy | do you mean volumes like amazon EBS? blobs like amazon S3? just vm images? | 23:13 |
| ashvaibhav | blobs and volumes | 23:14 |
| ashvaibhav | I guess images also can be handled by these,,, right? | 23:15 |
| tjoy | well | 23:15 |
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| tjoy | 'images' wasn't very descriptive of me. storage for active vms is what i meant | 23:16 |
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| tjoy | volumes are done through various iscsi drivers | 23:16 |
| tjoy | if you have a solaris storage server, for instance, you can export volumes from that | 23:16 |
| tjoy | or there's a nova volume service that will serve out lvm volumes | 23:16 |
| tjoy | there are others but i can't name them | 23:16 |
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| tjoy | blobs can be provided by glance for small loads, or swift for large ones | 23:17 |
| tjoy | glance is generally just for vm images | 23:17 |
| tjoy | live storage for vms can be on volumes or local storage on the nodes | 23:17 |
| ashvaibhav | ok... I guess I need to understand the basic architecture a bit more | 23:18 |
| tjoy | right, eucalyptus crams lots of services on one control node | 23:18 |
| tjoy | or at least it did 2 years ago | 23:18 |
| tjoy | openstack can work that way but any service can run on its own machine, provided that it can communicate with the rest of it all | 23:19 |
| tjoy | so there's nova-api to communicate with users, nova-volume to serve out iscsi, nova-compute to run VMs, etc | 23:19 |
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| ashvaibhav | ok... and is it that openstack works only over KVM and cant work over XEN? | 23:21 |
| tjoy | the reference installations are mostly kvm, but there are various xen drivers | 23:21 |
| tjoy | xen via libvirt and xen via xen-api | 23:22 |
| tjoy | there are also drivers for more hypervisors, like lxc | 23:22 |
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| ashvaibhav | I heard that KVM runs only on virtual extensions of Intel VT and AMD - V... is this correct? sorry loads of questions, quite a novice in this field... | 23:23 |
| tjoy | yes kvm needs cpu extensions | 23:23 |
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| ashvaibhav | does this gives XEN an edge over KVM? | 23:24 |
| tjoy | xen's paravirtualization can be faster, all things being equal | 23:25 |
| tjoy | but xen can only run operating systems that are coded to work with xen in paravirtualized mode | 23:25 |
| tjoy | you need CPU extensions to run, for instance, windows under xen | 23:25 |
| ashvaibhav | ok... I guess I understood a little bit. thanks a lot. shall explore more and then come back to the channel. :) | 23:26 |
| tjoy | good luck | 23:26 |
| ashvaibhav | ohho | 23:26 |
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| ashvaibhav | well... everything is a bit too confusing for me... could you please suggest few places to start reading and understsanding from | 23:27 |
| ashvaibhav | I need to set up a cloud from scratch | 23:28 |
| tjoy | sure. what is your goal? | 23:28 |
| ashvaibhav | so that my machine learning algos may run over them | 23:28 |
| tjoy | what OSes are your guests? | 23:28 |
| ashvaibhav | centOS for now | 23:29 |
| tjoy | what do you need from the cloud, exactly? would you be better off running a grid platform like hadoop or slurm? | 23:29 |
| ashvaibhav | but I would want as much flexibility as possible | 23:29 |
| ashvaibhav | yap.. hadoop is what I plan | 23:29 |
| ashvaibhav | myhadoop kind of thing | 23:29 |
| tjoy | well for ease of setup i recommend openstack with kvm. if you really need performance, you could go with xen paravirt, but openstack/xen isn't as well-documented as kvm | 23:30 |
| tjoy | you might spend more time setting up xen than you would save running your code | 23:30 |
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| ashvaibhav | but openstack provides full support i.e. all required drivers for XEN | 23:31 |
| ashvaibhav | right? | 23:31 |
| tjoy | packaging can really differ | 23:32 |
| tjoy | all the code is there to run xen | 23:32 |
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| spackest1 | anyone here that maintains devstack? I know they're easy fixes, but on http://devstack.org/ why not say you'll need to install git, and use the http:// protocol instead of git:// since firewalls like my work one won't allow git:// traffic | 23:32 |
| tjoy | you might need to tune it yourself though | 23:32 |
| tjoy | my personal project is to run xen under openstack and i haven't gotten all the way there yet | 23:32 |
| tjoy | although i have just recently acquired decent hardware to do it on | 23:33 |
| tjoy | i was trying to run on 32-bit P4s before and it wasn't happening | 23:33 |
| spackest1 | and add "sudo nova-manage db sync" somewhere in stack.sh | 23:33 |
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| tjoy | but it's a free-time project for me, so my progress shouldn't reflect on how hard it is to do | 23:34 |
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