| Kiall | stevegjacobs: BTW .. git pull, I've made a few changes to the nova.sh script since its not very clear at times ;) | 00:00 |
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| Kiall | (I understand what it was telling me to do.. but unless you've done it before, you probably wouldn't ;)) | 00:00 |
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| cloudfly | i think there is an order of operations issue in stack.sh | 00:01 |
| cloudfly | it seems to create the stack user fine, but it tries to deploy stuff to /opt/stack before doing that | 00:02 |
| cloudfly | and that will obviously fail | 00:02 |
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| stevegjacobs | restart glance-api /glance registry is failing after running the script | 00:27 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: any error message? | 00:28 |
| stevegjacobs | restart: Unknown instance: | 00:28 |
| Kiall | maybe it wasn't running and just needs to be started? (rather than restarted) | 00:28 |
| Kiall | yea .. that means it wasnt running, so there is nothing to restart | 00:28 |
| Kiall | (ubuntu really should make a better error message for that) | 00:28 |
| stevegjacobs | jeez | 00:30 |
| stevegjacobs | should there be something in the glance database? Database there but no tables yet | 00:30 |
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| Kiall | yea, there should be | 00:31 |
| Kiall | maybe its still using the default sqlite DB? | 00:31 |
| stevegjacobs | I'll check and fix | 00:31 |
| Kiall | should be 3 tables.. and a few records once you run the glance-upload-* scripts | 00:31 |
| Kiall | also .. i think i left a step out ;) | 00:32 |
| Kiall | glance-manage db_sync | 00:32 |
| Kiall | it creates the tables etc ;) | 00:33 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/commit/407c805d53ca26ca8e7f5a46ebaebd375dc4183c | 00:33 |
| stevegjacobs | glance-manage db_sync created four tables | 00:35 |
| Kiall | 4? I only have 3 .. LOL | 00:36 |
| Kiall | wonder what I'm missing ;) | 00:36 |
| Kiall | looks like I was missing migrate_version | 00:37 |
| Kiall | can tell me what it put there for you? | 00:37 |
| stevegjacobs | images, image_members, image_members, migrate_version | 00:37 |
| Kiall | (So i can fudge it in) | 00:37 |
| Kiall | pretty sure I just need the "version" from "migrate_version" | 00:38 |
| stevegjacobs | moving on to setting up the images... | 00:38 |
| Kiall | Before you do.. can you let me know what the value of the version col in the migrate_version table is? | 00:39 |
| Kiall | (Will save me some hassle next time glance makes a DB change ;)) | 00:39 |
| stevegjacobs | 0 | 00:41 |
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| stevegjacobs | version columne is '0' | 00:41 |
| Kiall | grand stuff then.. | 00:42 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall - what time zone are you in? | 00:44 |
| Kiall | Ireland, so its 1AM and I'm still working :( | 00:44 |
| Kiall | on a sunday no less | 00:44 |
| stevegjacobs | me too | 00:44 |
| stevegjacobs | you gave your self away when you said 'grand stuff' | 00:45 |
| Kiall | lol ... | 00:45 |
| cloudfly | heh | 00:45 |
| Kiall | There are a surprising amount of Irish companies looking at / deploying openstack... | 00:46 |
| cloudfly | that's good to hear. | 00:46 |
| cloudfly | i've got an irish citizenship if i want it and a desire to bike europe | 00:46 |
| cloudfly | =P | 00:46 |
| Kiall | I've talked with at least 4 on IRC, thats huge (for a country of 4 million) | 00:46 |
| cloudfly | true | 00:47 |
| stevegjacobs | I've got irish and american, so I could bike to austin | 00:47 |
| Kiall | 80% of those using it wont be on IRC, and the rest wont mention they are Irish | 00:47 |
| cloudfly | pity | 00:47 |
| cloudfly | hrmm | 00:47 |
| cloudfly | wierd | 00:47 |
| cloudfly | you ever see a glance add command just ... hang? | 00:48 |
| Kiall | cloudfly: nope, is the CPU (well 1 core) pegged? | 00:48 |
| cloudfly | nope | 00:49 |
| Kiall | Time to check the logs then ;) | 00:49 |
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| stevegjacobs | big error message at the end of lucid upload... http://paste.openstack.org/show/3112/ | 00:51 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: what did the command look like? | 00:52 |
| Kiall | oh wait, you dont see it. | 00:53 |
| Kiall | so oneiric went in okay? | 00:53 |
| stevegjacobs | no - haven't done that yet | 00:53 |
| stevegjacobs | database still empty | 00:53 |
| stevegjacobs | I'll have a go | 00:53 |
| cloudfly | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/eventlet/greenio.py", line 286, in send | 00:53 |
| cloudfly | total_sent += fd.send(data[total_sent:], flags) | 00:53 |
| cloudfly | error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer | 00:53 |
| cloudfly | weird | 00:53 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: the oneiric one has to go in first | 00:53 |
| Kiall | (there is a hardcoded ID for the kernal) | 00:54 |
| stevegjacobs | oooh | 00:54 |
| Kiall | bascially, you upload the oneiric kernel (id = 1), then the oneiric disk (id = 2) and tell it to use kernel id =1 | 00:54 |
| stevegjacobs | it's working away now.. my bad for not following the sequence.. | 00:56 |
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| Kiall | Well, that error kinda looks unrelated | 00:56 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: also .. there was a bug in that oneiric script ;) https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/commit/eb4ee1e350d5de93fc430919466857d7c05a3f45 | 00:56 |
| Kiall | it shouldnt make a difference as you only run it once tho.. | 00:56 |
| stevegjacobs | oneiric is downloading now - takes a few minutes | 00:57 |
| cloudfly | glance add -A <password> name=oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64-vmlinuz-virtual is_public=true container_format=aki disk_format=aki | 00:57 |
| cloudfly | that look about right for manually adding an oneiric image? | 00:57 |
| Kiall | yea if it doesnt work, just look at the script and try the command by hand, its probably something simple-ish | 00:58 |
| Kiall | (and tell me, so I can update it!) | 00:58 |
| Kiall | and bear in mind .. I wrote these scripts for me, they probably have a few little mistakes that I just fixed without editing the script.. | 00:59 |
| cloudfly | bizarre | 01:01 |
| cloudfly | it says it's uploading the image | 01:01 |
| cloudfly | but then it just... sits there | 01:01 |
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| Kiall | tried restarting nova-api and all of the glance services? | 01:02 |
| cloudfly | what is the correct way to do that from within devstack? | 01:02 |
| cloudfly | from screen? | 01:02 |
| Kiall | no clue ;) | 01:02 |
| stevegjacobs | still getting the same error at the end of oneiric install | 01:02 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: okay, try the commands by hand... | 01:03 |
| Kiall | export TOKEN=`./obtain-token.sh` | 01:03 |
| Kiall | echo $TOKEN | 01:03 |
| Kiall | try that first | 01:03 |
| cloudfly | fyi the screen method SEEMS to work | 01:04 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: in fact, I'm sure its the TOKEN=`./obtain-token.sh` thats failing | 01:05 |
| Kiall | the command "add" is being used as the token, and the first property is being used as the command | 01:06 |
| stevegjacobs | yep | 01:06 |
| Kiall | does running ./obtain-token.sh get you a token? | 01:06 |
| stevegjacobs | no. Key error 'access' | 01:07 |
| Kiall | but keystone-test.sh worked earlier? | 01:08 |
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| Kiall | actually - try keystone-test.sh again | 01:08 |
| stevegjacobs | weird - worked the first time but not now | 01:09 |
| stevegjacobs | do I need to back up the truck? | 01:09 |
| Kiall | yea .. try restarting keystone, maybe installing something else messed it up :) | 01:10 |
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| Kiall | or, maybe its not even running any more.. | 01:10 |
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| stevegjacobs | keystone said it was running - so I restarted it, and now I am getting a token | 01:12 |
| stevegjacobs | should I try oneiric upload again? | 01:13 |
| Kiall | Keystone has been completely stable for me, Was likely somehow to do with installing all the other parts... | 01:13 |
| Kiall | yea - but! | 01:13 |
| Kiall | there is a typo in the 2x upload scripts | 01:13 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/commit/eb4ee1e350d5de93fc430919466857d7c05a3f45 | 01:13 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs, you have 2 machines...right? | 01:13 |
| Kiall | same issue in both files | 01:13 |
| vidd | make sure the times are synced | 01:13 |
| Kiall | vidd: thats step 1 of running any network ;) | 01:13 |
| Kiall | Literally, first thing you do after installing the OS, setup NTP ;) | 01:14 |
| stevegjacobs | vidd - yes I do, but only one is involved in this. I set up ntp immediatley after installing os ;) | 01:14 |
| vidd | Kiall, the first step to driving a car is "fasten seat belt" but that dont mean ppl do it =] | 01:14 |
| Kiall | idiots dont do it :P | 01:15 |
| stevegjacobs | ntp is fine on my systems so I need to get back to installing scripts | 01:16 |
| vidd | Kiall, IDK...the first thing i do after installing the OS is curce, take the disk out of the drive, and reboot again | 01:16 |
| vidd | then i set the root password, set the IP address and THEN set up time server | 01:17 |
| Kiall | all that happens during the install ;) | 01:18 |
| vidd | you curse and take the disk out of the drive during the install? | 01:18 |
| vidd | =] | 01:18 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall - another error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/3113/ | 01:28 |
| stevegjacobs | but I suppose that is from multiple attemps to upload now? | 01:28 |
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| Kiall | yea .. looks like it | 01:28 |
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| stevegjacobs | I have data in my glance db now | 01:29 |
| stevegjacobs | but it is showing that oneiric is 'killed' | 01:29 |
| Kiall | rm -f /var/lib/glance/images/* | 01:29 |
| Kiall | and truncate the table | 01:29 |
| Kiall | (dont just delete the rows, truncate so the IDs start at 1 again) | 01:29 |
| Kiall | probably best to restart glance after that, no idea what it caches :) | 01:30 |
| stevegjacobs | will that hurt the one instance that i have running on the other server? | 01:30 |
| stevegjacobs | it is oneiric | 01:30 |
| Kiall | oh, you got instances running already? | 01:30 |
| stevegjacobs | I had instances running - only one important one - on the server that is not the controller | 01:31 |
| stevegjacobs | It's still alive | 01:31 |
| Kiall | oh - news to me ;) Yes. That will.. cause issues.. | 01:31 |
| Kiall | You'll need to port the data from SQLite to MySQL "by hand" | 01:31 |
| Kiall | and skip the glance-upload- scripts | 01:31 |
| stevegjacobs | ok - I had oneiric and lucid images | 01:33 |
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| stevegjacobs | more fun :-) sqlite to mysql conversion. | 01:39 |
| stevegjacobs | any best practice suggestions? | 01:40 |
| Kiall | uhhh .. nope | 01:41 |
| Kiall | never used SQLite for anything :) | 01:41 |
| Kiall | I would imagine it would be easy enough to do a "sqlitedump" or similar, remove schema, find+replace, and import | 01:42 |
| cloudfly | i love sqlite | 01:50 |
| cloudfly | it's pretty great | 01:50 |
| stevegjacobs | I've never used it, but when I first installed this system from ubuntu packages, I just left glance at defaults, and it worked - at least at first. | 01:51 |
| stevegjacobs | trying to dump using sqlite3, but it seems to be hanging | 01:51 |
| vidd | cloudfly, sqlite is very not-portable | 01:52 |
| vidd | cloudfly, is there some way to export a database into standard "can easily be read by phpmyadmin" format? | 01:53 |
| livemoon | morning, vidd | 01:53 |
| vidd | livemoon, evening here...but yeah! | 01:53 |
| vidd | livemoon, finally have all the services required for my demo up and running | 01:54 |
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| cloudfly | vidd not really intended to be used that way | 01:54 |
| vidd | i may even have new [to me] servers by the end of the week =] | 01:54 |
| livemoon | have you installed dashboard? | 01:55 |
| vidd | cloudfly, exactly the reason to NOT use it in this type of project | 01:55 |
| vidd | livemoon, yep =] | 01:55 |
| livemoon | via git? | 01:56 |
| livemoon | can you give me some docs about installing dashboard? | 01:56 |
| vidd | livemoon, yeah...only real way to install it and have it workl properly | 01:56 |
| vidd | livemoon, its really simple..... | 01:56 |
| vidd | livemoon, go to the directory you are going to deploy from | 01:57 |
| vidd | git clone git://github.com/cloudbuilders/openstack-dashboard.git | 01:58 |
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| vidd | go to the django-openstack/ directory "phython setup.py devel | 02:00 |
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| vidd | go to the openstack-dashboard directory " pip install -r tools/piprequires | 02:00 |
| vidd | edit local/local_settings.py.example to your liking and save as local/local_settings.py | 02:01 |
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| vidd | create a ln -s from local/ to dashboard/local | 02:03 |
| vidd | run python setup.py develop | 02:04 |
| vidd | run python dashboard/manage.py syncdb | 02:06 |
| vidd | then set up your apache file and away you go | 02:07 |
| vidd | livemoon, and if you have any issues with any of that, let me know =] | 02:08 |
| livemoon | vidd, Thanks | 02:09 |
| livemoon | I will try it today | 02:09 |
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| vidd | livemoon, do you intend to use mysql? | 02:12 |
| livemoon | yes, I use mysql | 02:18 |
| vidd | let me get you my local settings then | 02:19 |
| errr | i need to have both vmware esx and openstack. I only have 1 dev box right now. Can I install everything I need for openstack using esx 4.1 ? its silly I know but I need access to the vmware sdk and stuff and also need to start working on code for openstack too | 02:19 |
| errr | I can use seperate hard drives and just change them as I need to access 1 or the other if I have to but this way would be most ideal for my dev efforts.. | 02:20 |
| cloudfly | well devstack is working nicely for me now | 02:21 |
| cloudfly | quite pleased | 02:21 |
| stevegjacobs | got the database converted from sqlite to mysql :-) | 02:21 |
| cloudfly | errr you could deploy openstack inside the esx environment | 02:21 |
| cloudfly | if this is for a dev purpose | 02:21 |
| errr | it is | 02:21 |
| cloudfly | that's definitely the way to go | 02:21 |
| errr | awesome | 02:21 |
| errr | thanks | 02:22 |
| vidd | livemoon, http://dpaste.com/648553/ | 02:22 |
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| cloudfly | no worries | 02:22 |
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| vidd | Kiall, would you recommnd setting up ntp server on the secondary machines or configure ntpdate on them? | 02:26 |
| Kiall | not sure what you're asking, but generally you pick 1 authoritative time source that server A syncs from... | 02:27 |
| Kiall | then server B gets time from A | 02:27 |
| Kiall | and server C..Z from A+B | 02:27 |
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| cloudfly | set your floating ip range to your friendly neighborhood darknet and things get interesting | 02:33 |
| vidd | darknet? did someone say darknet? | 02:35 |
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| troya | hi all | 02:46 |
| errr | hi | 02:47 |
| cloudfly | hi | 02:47 |
| troya | i have installed openstack with stackops, is it default nclude glance ? | 02:48 |
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| cloudfly | i don't know what stackops is but diablo and above seems to include glance | 02:50 |
| errr | wkelly_: ping :) | 02:50 |
| vidd | stackops is currently Cactus | 02:51 |
| cloudfly | oof | 02:53 |
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| stevegjacobs | I think I've got everything running now except dashboard - but why am I still awake? | 03:02 |
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| hugokuo | morning | 03:24 |
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| livemoon | hi,is anyone here | 03:37 |
| vidd | i am here | 03:37 |
| livemoon | vidd: | 03:38 |
| livemoon | my instance lost fixed_ip | 03:38 |
| livemoon | can I re-assign it? | 03:38 |
| vidd | try it | 03:39 |
| livemoon | hwo to? | 03:40 |
| livemoon | how to? | 03:40 |
| vidd | are you using euca2ools? | 03:40 |
| livemoon | no | 03:41 |
| livemoon | use nova-client | 03:41 |
| vidd | i dont know the commands in novaclient | 03:41 |
| vidd | euca2ools should still work | 03:41 |
| vidd | source your creds.... | 03:42 |
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| vidd | euca-describe-address will tell you the floating ips available to assign | 03:42 |
| vidd | do you know the i-# of your instance? | 03:43 |
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| livemoon | vidd: I lost both floating ip and fixed ip | 03:51 |
| vidd | then the instance is dead? | 03:52 |
| livemoon | no, I can login on vnc | 03:54 |
| livemoon | but the network ips lost | 03:54 |
| vidd | strange.... | 03:54 |
| vidd | have you checked if your nova-network is up? | 03:54 |
| livemoon | yes | 03:58 |
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| livemoon | it; | 03:58 |
| livemoon | it's up | 03:58 |
| vidd | have you restarted it? | 03:58 |
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| errr | is devstack currently broken? | 04:59 |
| errr | I tried using it and seem to have no working glance | 04:59 |
| vidd | errr, then try upgrading the glance | 05:03 |
| vidd | or at lease restarting it | 05:03 |
| vidd | "glance-control all restart" | 05:03 |
| errr | vidd: it tells me it cant find a config file to use.. | 05:05 |
| vidd | errr, that can be an issue | 05:05 |
| vidd | did the script complete or fail? | 05:05 |
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| errr | failed, I ran it a second time and thought it worked but I guess it didnt | 05:06 |
| vidd | how long ago did you git it | 05:07 |
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| cloudfly | i will say this | 05:07 |
| cloudfly | don't run stack.sh as root | 05:07 |
| cloudfly | whatever you do | 05:07 |
| errr | vidd: about an hour ago | 05:08 |
| errr | cloudfly: yeah I did :) | 05:08 |
| vidd | did you run as user or root? | 05:08 |
| errr | root. | 05:08 |
| cloudfly | create the stack user with homedir of /opt/stack | 05:08 |
| vidd | errr, dont do that =] | 05:08 |
| cloudfly | then ssh into that use | 05:08 |
| cloudfly | r | 05:08 |
| cloudfly | git clone | 05:08 |
| cloudfly | and run from there | 05:08 |
| vidd | stack user needs sudo rights | 05:09 |
| cloudfly | i posted some notes from setting it up today at music-piracy.com | 05:09 |
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| cloudfly | yeah | 05:09 |
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| cloudfly | create passwordless sudo for stack user | 05:09 |
| errr | vidd: thats 1 line of code at the top of that script to stop people from doing that :) | 05:09 |
| cloudfly | errr i do not disagree there =P | 05:09 |
| errr | ok | 05:09 |
| vidd | and just like seatbelts....people still ignore it =] | 05:09 |
| errr | it doesnt even say not to do that in the readme | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | yeah | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | devstack documentation is light | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | atm | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | but i have it working right now | 05:10 |
| errr | cloudfly: make that openstack in general :) | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | nah | 05:10 |
| cloudfly | openstack has lots of documentation | 05:10 |
| vidd | cloudfly, light? its down-right anti-gravity =] | 05:11 |
| errr | its just not all current | 05:11 |
| cloudfly | just most of it was written before the current code was =P | 05:11 |
| errr | in a time long long ago.. you know 3 months ago.. this is how it worked =) | 05:12 |
| cloudfly | 3 months is a hell of a long time for this project | 05:12 |
| errr | I know | 05:12 |
| cloudfly | hell they've had 4 major releases in one year | 05:12 |
| vidd | 14 revisions ago [last week]...... | 05:12 |
| cloudfly | that's ridiculous by any standard | 05:12 |
| errr | I watch guys like wkelly_ dal with it all the time :-) | 05:13 |
| errr | deal* | 05:13 |
| vidd | errr, it real easy once you've installed it as many times as i have | 05:13 |
| errr | yeah | 05:13 |
| vidd | but hey...i finally have a working stck | 05:14 |
| cloudfly | heh | 05:14 |
| cloudfly | that being said... devstack is freakishly nice compared to days past | 05:14 |
| cloudfly | even nova.sh didn't run this well. | 05:14 |
| vidd | only took 43 format/reinstalls and almost an entire month to do it | 05:14 |
| cloudfly | vidd heck i'm using instances to build packages for host ubuntu systems right now =P | 05:15 |
| cloudfly | it never ends! | 05:15 |
| vidd | i just need to figure out what i have to do to take a software-to-metal server and convert it into a VM image | 05:16 |
| vidd | (24 times) | 05:17 |
| cloudfly | vmware used to have some tools for that. | 05:17 |
| cloudfly | but hell i think you could probably dd them into images | 05:17 |
| vidd | there might be a windows box or two in the rack | 05:17 |
| cloudfly | dd into an image ... loopback mount it | 05:17 |
| cloudfly | fix it up for virt running | 05:18 |
| cloudfly | and run it | 05:18 |
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| cloudfly | i doubt any modern windows box could be virtualized easily | 05:19 |
| vidd | i'll start with something harmles...like the old "nobody actually pays us for this" proftp server | 05:19 |
| cloudfly | too much internal dependency on hardware stats | 05:19 |
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| vidd | cloudfly, if there is a windows box on the rack, its STAYING in the rack | 05:20 |
| vidd | =] | 05:20 |
| vidd | the fines alone is enough to keep me awake nights | 05:20 |
| vidd | that and my demo not working =] | 05:21 |
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| cloudfly | actually windows will run in kvm | 05:22 |
| cloudfly | and legally | 05:22 |
| cloudfly | we've built a few openstack windows 7 images | 05:22 |
| cloudfly | it works | 05:22 |
| cloudfly | totally legit | 05:22 |
| vidd | cloudfly, i dont know if the software-to-metal windows boxes are legit =] | 05:23 |
| cloudfly | oh hell no | 05:23 |
| cloudfly | not a chance in hell | 05:23 |
| vidd | so converting them could legitimize them =] | 05:24 |
| vidd | ill let the data center managing partner deal with the licencing issues....ill leave the windows boxs alone =] | 05:25 |
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| livemoon | hi | 05:40 |
| livemoon | I cannot start nova-network | 05:41 |
| livemoon | who can help | 05:41 |
| livemoon | me | 05:41 |
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| vidd | live what does the traceback tell you? | 05:41 |
| vidd | livemoon, what does the traceback tell you? | 05:41 |
| livemoon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/3118/ | 05:44 |
| livemoon | this is log | 05:44 |
| vidd | livemoon, run nova-manage db sync | 05:47 |
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| vidd | service then nova-network start | 05:47 |
| vidd | *then service nova-network start | 05:47 |
| livemoon | I have run it | 05:47 |
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| vidd | you ran nova-manage db sync? | 05:48 |
| livemoon | yes | 05:49 |
| livemoon | nothing else | 05:50 |
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| vidd | somewhere in your database there is an empty field that is required | 05:50 |
| livemoon | ...... | 05:52 |
| livemoon | what can I do | 05:54 |
| vidd | find the emty field and put the info in it | 05:55 |
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| vidd | ]bring up your nova database livemoon | 05:57 |
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| vidd | how many instances do you currently have running? | 05:58 |
| livemoon | 6 | 05:58 |
| vidd | make sue...in your nova database...that they all have the required fields | 05:59 |
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| livemoon | which fields? | 05:59 |
| vidd | you said only one was missing info....right? | 06:00 |
| livemoon | according to log, I think it is | 06:02 |
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| vidd | when you do euca-describe-instances do all six show active with ips? | 06:03 |
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| livemoon | one instance miss its ips | 06:05 |
| vidd | that is the one you need to fix in the database | 06:05 |
| ogelbukh | инв"риАнт | 06:06 |
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| livemoon | I fixed it | 06:07 |
| livemoon | but now nova-network cannot be started | 06:07 |
| livemoon | on all nodes | 06:07 |
| vidd | run your nova-manage db sync and then start your nova network | 06:08 |
| vidd | wait... livemoon you FIXED the ip database issue and THEN the nova-network stopped working? | 06:09 |
| livemoon | vidd: I have reslove it | 06:10 |
| livemoon | thank you | 06:10 |
| vidd | good.....now i can get some sleep =] | 06:10 |
| vidd | i have the big demo tommorrow =] | 06:10 |
| vidd | in 10 hours! | 06:10 |
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| livemoon | good luck | 06:20 |
| livemoon | bye | 06:20 |
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| cloudfly | good luck vidd | 06:26 |
| vidd | thank ya livemoon cloudfly | 06:27 |
| vidd | its a formality really | 06:27 |
| vidd | mostly a "get me the daggone server already" gesture | 06:27 |
| vidd | =] | 06:27 |
| vidd | good night all | 06:29 |
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| livemoon | hi | 06:30 |
| livemoon | is anyone here? | 06:30 |
| livemoon | does anyone meet "libvir: QEMU error : Domain not found" | 06:33 |
| errr | sweet, thanks vidd-away and cloudfly now it works. | 06:34 |
| livemoon | who know "libvir: QEMU error : Domain not found" | 06:38 |
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| errr | livemoon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/655217 seen this? | 06:41 |
| livemoon | I see | 06:42 |
| livemoon | but I don't think it is my problem | 06:42 |
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| livemoon | How can I give libvirt-qemu access to the nova/instances repository? | 06:43 |
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| errr | just a guess on my part but permissions on your instances dir maybe? | 06:46 |
| livemoon | I have set 777 | 06:48 |
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| errr | I hope a puppy didnt get run over because of that.. | 06:49 |
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| livemoon | I want to know what domain is | 06:50 |
| livemoon | Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006' | 06:50 |
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| siwos | hi | 07:17 |
| siwos | guys - what do you think of this? | 07:17 |
| siwos | http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/why-openstack-will-falter-178038?page=0,0 | 07:17 |
| livemoon | siwos | 07:19 |
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| livemoon | can you help me | 07:19 |
| siwos | ;-) | 07:20 |
| livemoon | I try to reboot my server | 07:20 |
| livemoon | it say"libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006'" | 07:20 |
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| cloudfly | eucalyptus isn't very good and it's got a java dependency | 07:28 |
| cloudfly | also... with players like citrix betting on openstack | 07:29 |
| cloudfly | eucalytpus is simply outclassed in the market | 07:29 |
| cloudfly | siwos that would be my immediate response | 07:29 |
| livemoon | who know how to resolve libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006' | 07:29 |
| siwos | cloudfly ;-) | 07:30 |
| siwos | well I always thought eucalyptus would die right after ubuntu turned it's back on it | 07:30 |
| siwos | it looks like it's doing well | 07:30 |
| siwos | I can see they are hiring on their webpage | 07:31 |
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| siwos | livemoon: check out your instances table | 07:31 |
| siwos | myh first guess is you have an instance in the db only but it's not running | 07:31 |
| livemoon | yes | 07:32 |
| livemoon | I cannot start it | 07:32 |
| livemoon | when I reboot server . it say libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006' | 07:33 |
| siwos | so - try to manually delete the row for it from the "instances" table | 07:35 |
| livemoon | if do this , will instances be losing? | 07:37 |
| siwos | yep | 07:39 |
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| siwos | if you cannto find the domain the are probably dead | 07:40 |
| siwos | if you can find the hypervisor (compute node) where the instance is running, you may login into the hypervisor and check nova-compute.log | 07:40 |
| livemoon | I delete instance in table and now node don't start it | 07:41 |
| livemoon | how can I restart the instance? | 07:41 |
| siwos | the instance is probably not running - nova-compute cannot find it | 07:45 |
| livemoon | how can I do to let nova-compute find it | 07:45 |
| siwos | if it cannot find it, the instance is probably dead | 07:46 |
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| HugoKuo__ | hi | 08:09 |
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| livemoon | hi | 08:20 |
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| stevegjacobs | i was trying to set up using kiall's scripts last nigtht - didn't quite finish - anybody here this morning familiar with this? | 09:03 |
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| cloudfly | good night all | 09:21 |
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| Nadeeem | does anybody have an already running example of openstack running in a vm with nested virtualisation/ | 09:26 |
| Nadeeem | ? | 09:26 |
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| lelin | hello. i'm running nova-descrive-availibility-zones verbose, but i see XXX next to nova-compute and nova-network of my nodes. what could be the reason? | 09:57 |
| siwos | lelin: from my experience output of nova-manage service list is often unreliable | 10:03 |
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| siwos | so XXX does not necessarily mean that the service is down ;-) | 10:03 |
| lelin | siwos, tnx | 10:03 |
| siwos | I've got a couple of compute nodes reporting XXX but running vm-s | 10:04 |
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| BasTichelaar | anyone here who uses nova with multiple zones? | 10:16 |
| BasTichelaar | having some troubles and need some help... | 10:16 |
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| Razique | Hi all =) | 10:38 |
| Razique | what nova secgroup-add-group-rule | 10:38 |
| Razique | does ? * | 10:38 |
| Razique | According to the help it "Add a source group rule to a security group" | 10:39 |
| Razique | what does that mean ? :D | 10:39 |
| BasTichelaar | probably it is a rule for the source security group where traffic is originating from | 10:39 |
| Razique | Babyface: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3119/ | 10:40 |
| Razique | that means I only allowed the traffic to 80 from the SG "default " ? | 10:40 |
| BasTichelaar | guess so | 10:40 |
| Razique | I thinks it makes sense then =) | 10:40 |
| BasTichelaar | Im not babyface ;) | 10:41 |
| Razique | ooops | 10:41 |
| BasTichelaar | lol | 10:41 |
| Razique | too much of first letter + tab :D | 10:41 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: | 10:41 |
| Razique | :p | 10:41 |
| BasTichelaar | you have experiences with nova zones? | 10:41 |
| Razique | not yet, I've only have one zone | 10:41 |
| BasTichelaar | k | 10:41 |
| Razique | you ? | 10:41 |
| BasTichelaar | no, documentation is really sparse atm | 10:42 |
| Razique | yah, don't hesitate to open bugs for the doc | 10:42 |
| Razique | we have a small team that is trying to fill the gap | 10:42 |
| BasTichelaar | cool | 10:42 |
| Razique | and everytime someones opens a doc bug, I'm trying to test it and update the doc accordingly :) | 10:43 |
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| Nadeeem | guys, whats the difference betwene qemu and qemu-kvm ? | 10:43 |
| BasTichelaar | qemu-kvm uses the kvm driver and hardware enabled virtualization | 10:43 |
| BasTichelaar | qemu is just emulation | 10:43 |
| Nadeeem | thanks for the clarification | 10:44 |
| Razique | qemu-kvm is a fork from qemu which uses the Vt capabilites of ur cpu | 10:45 |
| Razique | :D | 10:45 |
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| Razique | guys | 10:52 |
| Razique | that zone stuff seems awesome | 10:52 |
| Razique | that means you can potentially from a zone define a new one | 10:53 |
| Razique | and boot to that zone | 10:53 |
| Razique | typically "Zone1 : DC1, zone2 : DC2" | 10:53 |
| doude | Hi stackers, how list endpoints associated to a token ? | 10:53 |
| Razique | and spawn to zone 2 from zone 1 :d | 10:53 |
| Razique | doude: token -> user -> tenant -> roles -> services -> endpoints | 10:54 |
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| Razique | tenant <-> Roles <-> Services <-> Endpoints | 10:54 |
| siwos | Razique: do zones really work in diablo? | 10:55 |
| siwos | i cactus they wouldn't\ | 10:55 |
| Razique | siwos: I'll try today :) | 10:55 |
| siwos | ok - keep my fingers crossed ;-) | 10:55 |
| Razique | I've my lab + preproduction, all in teh same LAN | 10:55 |
| Razique | so I'll try from my lab to add my pre-prod as a zone | 10:55 |
| Razique | that would be just awesome if it's working :D | 10:55 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: cool, nice that you also try :) | 10:55 |
| Razique | siwos: have you tried ? | 10:56 |
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| Razique | BasTichelaar: you tried ? :D | 10:56 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: I have the zones already configured, but seem to be hitting a bug | 10:56 |
| siwos | Razique: not yet | 10:56 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: configuring the zones is not difficult | 10:56 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: but Im stuck at booting an instance across the zones | 10:56 |
| Razique | ok good to know | 10:58 |
| Razique | time for me to lunch | 10:58 |
| Razique | cya guys :) | 10:58 |
| BasTichelaar | ciao | 10:58 |
| doude | Razique: In nova client, it try to get URL http://keystone.com:35357/v2.0/tokens/XXX-XXXX-XX/endpoints with Admin token | 11:01 |
| doude | Razique: but it fails because keystone need the tenant ID to get endpoints associated to a token | 11:02 |
| livemoon | so bad today | 11:12 |
| livemoon | Razique: I update openstack | 11:12 |
| livemoon | then All instances cannot be started | 11:12 |
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| tyska | hi guys | 11:38 |
| tyska | what's up? | 11:38 |
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| BasTichelaar | are availability zones the same as the nova zones I create with "nova zone-add"? | 11:41 |
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| BasTichelaar | cause they dont show up with a "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose" | 11:42 |
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| ton_katsu | hello | 12:34 |
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| ton_katsu | I have nova + dashboard(horizon) at diablo | 12:35 |
| ton_katsu | now , nova list command is error. | 12:36 |
| ton_katsu | Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials. | 12:36 |
| ton_katsu | euca-describe-instances is OK | 12:36 |
| ton_katsu | euca-describe-instances is good. | 12:37 |
| ton_katsu | nova list is no good. | 12:37 |
| ton_katsu | help me. | 12:37 |
| ton_katsu | please | 12:37 |
| ton_katsu | why? | 12:37 |
| ton_katsu | nova --debug list result is HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized | 12:38 |
| ton_katsu | I settinged keystone credentials. | 12:39 |
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| ton_katsu | how to change "Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/'" nova command. | 12:51 |
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| stevegjacobs | nova-test.sh didn't work | 13:11 |
| soren | What's nova-tests.sh? | 13:13 |
| lelin | which version of hybridfox is running for you? | 13:15 |
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| jchome | wtf - nova-network tries to create a file here: "2011-11-07 05:16:58,394 CRITICAL nova [-] failed to create /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ubuntu.Dummy-1-1943" | 13:17 |
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| doude | Hi stackers, how list endpoints associated to a token ? | 13:27 |
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| romans | ton_katsu: please paste all output from nova --debug list | 13:27 |
| ton_katsu | romans thank you | 13:28 |
| ton_katsu | please wait. | 13:28 |
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| ton_katsu | send: 'GET /v1.1/ HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8774\r\nx-auth-project-id: test-project\r\nx-auth-key: xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxx\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nx-auth-user: ton_katsu\r\nuser-agent: python-novaclient\r\n\r\n' | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | reply: 'HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized\r\n' | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | header: Www-Authenticate: Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/' | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | header: Content-Length: 276 | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | header: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | header: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:28:51 GMT | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | Traceback (most recent call last): | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | File "/usr/bin/nova", line 9, in <module> | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | load_entry_point('python-novaclient==2.6.4', 'console_scripts', 'nova')() | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/novaclient/shell.py", line 219, in main | 13:30 |
| ton_katsu | OpenStackComputeShell().main(sys.argv[1:]) | 13:31 |
| ton_katsu | File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/novaclient/shell.py", line 178, in main | 13:31 |
| ton_katsu | raise exc.CommandError("Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials.") | 13:31 |
| ton_katsu | novaclient.exceptions.CommandError: Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials. | 13:31 |
| ton_katsu | keystone is localhost by mysql. | 13:31 |
| ton_katsu | euca-describe-instance is OK. | 13:32 |
| romans | what in your novarc? | 13:32 |
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| ton_katsu | is cloudadmin's novarc | 13:33 |
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| romans | hmm, do you change api-paste.ini | 13:35 |
| romans | to use keystone | 13:35 |
| romans | ? | 13:35 |
| BasTichelaar | anyone here who uses nova with multiple zones? | 13:35 |
| BasTichelaar | I have some troubles getting it to run | 13:35 |
| ton_katsu | api-paste.ini is using. | 13:35 |
| BasTichelaar | like the zones are there and are communicating for the capabilities | 13:35 |
| romans | in my nova.conf | 13:36 |
| romans | --api_paste_config=/etc/keystone/nova-api-paste.ini | 13:36 |
| BasTichelaar | but I cant get an instance to run from the api of the parent | 13:36 |
| romans | ton_katsu: /etc/keystone/nova-api-paste.ini ini file specially for keystone | 13:36 |
| ton_katsu | my setting is same you. | 13:37 |
| romans | In your output I doesn't see keystone auth | 13:37 |
| ton_katsu | --api_paste_config=/etc/nova/nova-api-paste.ini | 13:37 |
| ton_katsu | euca-describe command has access db. | 13:37 |
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| ton_katsu | nova list command don't has access db. | 13:37 |
| ton_katsu | keystone db. | 13:37 |
| romans | see my output | 13:38 |
| romans | # nova --debug list | 13:38 |
| romans | connect: (127.0.0.1, 35357) | 13:38 |
| ton_katsu | comfirmed show processlist command. | 13:38 |
| romans | send: 'POST /v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: 127.0.0.1:35357\r\nContent-Length: 105\r\ncontent-type: application/json\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nuser-agent: python-novaclient\r\n\r\n{"auth": {"tenantName": "project", "passwordCredentials": {"username": "admin", "password": "xxxxx"}}}' | 13:38 |
| romans | reply: 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n' | 13:38 |
| romans | header: Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8 | 13:38 |
| romans | header: Content-Length: 904 | 13:38 |
| romans | header: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:37:33 GMT | 13:38 |
| ton_katsu | wow thank you! | 13:39 |
| ton_katsu | I don't POST. ummm | 13:40 |
| ton_katsu | nova-xxx version is 2011.3-0ubuntu2~ppa1~lucid1 ? | 13:41 |
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| romans | I use fedora ..last package | 13:41 |
| ton_katsu | ok. | 13:42 |
| romans | openstack-nova-2011.3-4.fc17.noarch | 13:42 |
| ton_katsu | connect: (127.0.0.1, 35357) is keystone uri ? | 13:42 |
| romans | yes | 13:42 |
| ton_katsu | oh | 13:43 |
| romans | new port 35357, old was 5001 | 13:43 |
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| ton_katsu | my connect port (connect: (172.28.203.212, 8774)) is nova-api | 13:43 |
| ton_katsu | i try change port. | 13:43 |
| ton_katsu | you change novarc ? | 13:43 |
| ton_katsu | echo $NOVA_URL . please show me . | 13:44 |
| romans | export NOVA_API_KEY="pass" | 13:44 |
| romans | export NOVA_USERNAME="admin" | 13:45 |
| romans | export NOVA_PROJECT_ID="proj1" | 13:45 |
| romans | export NOVA_URL="http://127.0.0.1:35357/v2.0/" | 13:45 |
| romans | export NOVA_VERSION="1.1" | 13:45 |
| ton_katsu | ! | 13:45 |
| ton_katsu | NOVA_URL='keystone url' | 13:45 |
| romans | yes | 13:45 |
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| doude | BasTichelaar: yes I try to run it but I've some troublr too | 13:49 |
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| ton_katsu | i tried after change NOVA_URL. | 13:50 |
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| ton_katsu | reply: 'HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request\r\n' | 13:51 |
| ton_katsu | :-) | 13:52 |
| romans | what is your keystone version | 13:52 |
| romans | ? | 13:52 |
| romans | I see you use 2.6.4 version novaclient | 13:52 |
| romans | in last 2.6.6 version auth schema changed | 13:53 |
| ton_katsu | wow | 13:53 |
| ton_katsu | keystone version is | 13:53 |
| romans | if you use last keystone U need to use last novaclient | 13:53 |
| ton_katsu | what is your keystone version. | 13:54 |
| ton_katsu | my keystone version is | 13:55 |
| BasTichelaar | did scheduler SchedulerHostFilter got into Diablo? | 13:55 |
| ton_katsu | git clone at 2011-11-02 | 13:55 |
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| romans | openstack-keystone-1.0-0.3.d4.1213.fc16.noarch | 13:55 |
| romans | 1213 rev | 13:55 |
| romans | 2011-10-04 13:30:23 | 13:56 |
| romans | package date | 13:56 |
| romans | wait | 13:57 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #887123 in openstack-manuals "Remove http:// from --ec2_url flag example" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887123 | 13:58 |
| vidd | anyone here familiar with troubleshooting the dashboard? | 13:59 |
| vidd | the site loads but the users and tenats pages do not | 14:00 |
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| romans | ton_katsu: Try to update your novaclient to 2.6.6 | 14:02 |
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| ton_katsu | my python-novaclient is 2.6.4~bzr113-0ubuntu0ppa1~lucid1. | 14:04 |
| ton_katsu | wrong version... | 14:05 |
| ton_katsu | thank you romans | 14:05 |
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| ton_katsu | recommended is keystone version down ? | 14:06 |
| ton_katsu | romans: what is your novaclient version? | 14:07 |
| stevegjacobs | Kiall - are you here today? | 14:09 |
| romans | 2.6.6 | 14:10 |
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| romans | ton_katsu: hmm, wait. I remember that I install novaclient from sources | 14:12 |
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| romans | because in 2.6.6 used old schema | 14:12 |
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| ton_katsu | old schema... | 14:13 |
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| romans | https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/commit/2e2172c5f5add4cc8b38c5be19cd86c18f285eee | 14:15 |
| romans | commit with new schema | 14:15 |
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| romans | but there is no egg or package:( | 14:16 |
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| romans | try to install from sources as I | 14:16 |
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| ton_katsu | yes. thank you!!! | 14:17 |
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| ton_katsu | very much! | 14:17 |
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| Nadeeem | FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.35-gentoo-r4/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported | 14:17 |
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| Nadeeem | i get this when i do: | 14:17 |
| Nadeeem | modprobe kvm-intel | 14:17 |
| Nadeeem | modprobe kvm runs fine | 14:17 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: yea | 14:17 |
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| vidd | is there a way to find out the version of python-keystoneclient im using? | 14:19 |
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| Kiall | vidd: sure, ask your OS's package manager ;) | 14:20 |
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| vidd | Kiall, it was put in by dashboard via git | 14:23 |
| Kiall | exactly my point .. ;) | 14:23 |
| vidd | or pip install =\ | 14:23 |
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| romans | ton_katsu: "nova list" work? | 14:25 |
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| ton_katsu | working now. | 14:26 |
| ton_katsu | but | 14:26 |
| ton_katsu | I think key stone version down. | 14:26 |
| ton_katsu | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tags | 14:26 |
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| ton_katsu | other package care. dependency. | 14:28 |
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| vidd | is github down? | 14:31 |
| ton_katsu | I go back home. I try tomorrow. | 14:31 |
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| ton_katsu | see you romans. | 14:32 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall, last night I realised I couldn't continue to follow your instructions and risk losing some instances that I need to preserve. | 14:34 |
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| stevegjacobs | I was able to export glance.sqlite into mysql - that looks ok, and your glance-test script works | 14:34 |
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| stevegjacobs | I couldn't replace the nova database either | 14:35 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: sure, so long as you port the SQLite databases over, they should be fine. | 14:35 |
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| Kiall | I can't 110% guarantee that, but somewhere close assuming no mistakes ;) | 14:35 |
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| stevegjacobs | now keystone-test doesn't work | 14:35 |
| stevegjacobs | and nova-test.sh doesn't either | 14:36 |
| Kiall | Most of the test scripts make assumptions about what's in place, the ID's of stuff, etc | 14:36 |
| Kiall | The only one that should work as-is on a non-fresh install would be the keystone one.. | 14:37 |
| stevegjacobs | thats what I thought, which is why I didn't proceed to dashboard install | 14:38 |
| Kiall | Anyway, the issue for you seems to be porting to data over.. Once thats done, the old instances won't know the difference | 14:38 |
| stevegjacobs | I just want to make sure keystone is working before I carry on | 14:39 |
| stevegjacobs | yeah, my two instances that I want to keep are fine | 14:39 |
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| Kiall | Keystone for me has been rock solid, its crashed overnight again for you? | 14:39 |
| livemoon | vidd: what a bad day | 14:39 |
| stevegjacobs | It's been running but your test script no longer comes up ok | 14:40 |
| Kiall | That likely means its crashed (even if it hasnt crashed so hard the process died) | 14:41 |
| stevegjacobs | errors: File "<string>", line 1, in <module> | 14:41 |
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| stevegjacobs | KeyError: 'access' | 14:41 |
| Kiall | Anything of note in the keystone logs? | 14:42 |
| stevegjacobs | then it echos 'success' | 14:42 |
| stevegjacobs | checking | 14:42 |
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| stevegjacobs | 2011-11-07 14:43:49 WARNING [eventlet.wsgi.server] 78.153.222.198 - - [07/Nov/2011 14:43:49] "POST /v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.1" 401 193 0.003939 | 14:44 |
| stevegjacobs | in api.log | 14:45 |
| stevegjacobs | nothing in keystone.log | 14:45 |
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| Kiall | heh - bug in the test script then :) | 14:48 |
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| stevegjacobs | obtain-token.sh gives same error, so it could be there | 14:50 |
| stevegjacobs | Or could it be in the database somewhere? | 14:50 |
| Razique | back! :D | 14:50 |
| Razique | hey livemoon :) | 14:51 |
| livemoon | hi,Razique | 14:51 |
| livemoon | what a bad day | 14:51 |
| livemoon | I lost my all instances | 14:51 |
| Razique | livemoon: what happened ? | 14:51 |
| Razique | have u my drp script ? | 14:51 |
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| Kiall | okay .. in obtain-token.sh, change L11 to echo $RAW_TOKEN | 14:52 |
| Kiall | the "keyerror access" is coming from that little but of python to parse the JSON and extract the token | 14:52 |
| Kiall | bit* | 14:52 |
| Kiall | then run obtain-token.sh and see what it pops out | 14:52 |
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| livemoon | you can see my mail in maillist | 14:52 |
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| Nadeeem | anhybody had success doing nested virtualisation here? | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | vm in a vm | 14:57 |
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| Razique | livemoon: nope | 14:57 |
| Razique | send it to me :) | 14:57 |
| Razique | Nadeeem: yah | 14:57 |
| Razique | with vitualbox / vmware | 14:57 |
| BasTichelaar | Nadeeem: yes, kvm + lxc | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | i have this problem: my topmost tool is virtualbox | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | i have a gentoo linux vm running on this virtualbox | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | then i try to do a modprobe kvm-intel but it fails - it seems to me that the VT-x extensions are not accessible inside the Vbox guest ? | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | dod u have the same problem? | 14:57 |
| BasTichelaar | Nadeeem: why not use lxc? | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | whats lxc ? | 14:57 |
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| BasTichelaar | Nadeeem: nested KVM virtualisation is only possible with AMD cpus | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | seriously??? only with AMD | 14:57 |
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| Kiall | did you change the line in obtain-token.sh? and did it print anything out after the key error? | 14:57 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: actually | 14:57 |
| Kiall | I think I might know whats causing some of the issues.. | 14:57 |
| Kiall | You are probably still running some stock ubuntu packages .. try `apt-get install python-keystone` and see if it it has an update | 14:57 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: naaaa :D | 14:57 |
| Razique | I do both | 14:57 |
| Razique | Intel cpu show better perf imho :) | 14:57 |
| Nadeeem | Razique: what was your setup? can you tell me what did you exactly use for virtualisation and what OS ? | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | hmm, maybe things have changed | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | but I thought only AMD supported nested VMX | 14:59 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall: more errors: {"unauthorized": {"message": "Unauthorized", "code": "401"}} - something wrong in database? | 15:00 |
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| Kiall | yea, it looks like the user/pass its sending are invalid | 15:00 |
| Razique | Nadeeem: I run it under VMWAre fusion and virtualbox on my macbook pro (i7) | 15:00 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs Kiall make sure his user has the Admin role | 15:00 |
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| Razique | in nova conf, don't forget the --compute_type=qemu and voila :) | 15:00 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: vmware != KVM :) | 15:00 |
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| Razique | I know, | 15:01 |
| Razique | but I must has misread the question | 15:01 |
| Nadeeem | so your topmost guest was Linux ? and topmost OS was vmwarefusion ? | 15:01 |
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| Razique | what nested means exactly ? | 15:01 |
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| Nadeeem | means VM within a VM | 15:01 |
| Razique | not sure I get it here ^^ | 15:01 |
| BasTichelaar | --compute_type=qemu != kvm as well | 15:02 |
| Nadeeem | i am trying to install run openstack on my Gentoo guest | 15:02 |
| BasTichelaar | :) | 15:02 |
| Razique | ok, so for that, you could use qemu | 15:02 |
| BasTichelaar | you probably have really bad performance with qemu | 15:02 |
| Nadeeem | and in that guest, i will create KVM virtualmachines | 15:02 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: is that what Virtualbox uses ? | 15:02 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: totally :) | 15:02 |
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| Razique | but perfect for a validation env. | 15:02 |
| BasTichelaar | yes, but virtualbox can also make use of qemu-kvm | 15:02 |
| stevegjacobs | user as in settings - which was used to create the keystone database in the first place? | 15:02 |
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| livemoon | hi | 15:03 |
| BasTichelaar | anway, Nadeeem look in to LXC | 15:03 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs yes | 15:03 |
| livemoon | does glance have "db_sync"? | 15:03 |
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| stevegjacobs | In database, the user is admin and it has Admin role | 15:03 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: my setup is -> virtualbox -> openstack -> instances | 15:03 |
| livemoon | I think keystone-manage havenot db_sync anymore | 15:03 |
| ttx | annegentle: ping me when around -- I think you need to fix your wiki account association to restore your rights | 15:03 |
| Razique | instances = qemu | 15:03 |
| Nadeeem | Razique: do you still have that vbox image lying around somewhere ? | 15:03 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: mine is physical + lxc and kvm + lxc | 15:04 |
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| vidd | stevegjacobs paste me your output for env|grep NOVA | 15:04 |
| Razique | Nadeeem: nope sorry but here is a good link :http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/running-openstack-under-virtualbox-a-complete-guide/ | 15:04 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: any progress with your zones? | 15:04 |
| Kiall | vidd: it wont have anything... https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/blob/master/obtain-token.sh | 15:04 |
| BasTichelaar | Razique: read this doc for info: http://nova.openstack.org/devref/distributed_scheduler.html?highlight=zones | 15:05 |
| Razique | thanks BasTichelaar :) | 15:05 |
| Kiall | The NOVA settings come from the settings file sourced at L4 | 15:05 |
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| Nadeeem | thanks for the link, i cam across that before | 15:05 |
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| Nadeeem | iam stuck at creating running the qemu images | 15:05 |
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| Nadeeem | Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory No accelerator found! | 15:06 |
| Nadeeem | tux images # modprobe kvm-intel FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.35-gentoo-r4/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported | 15:06 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: something is causing keystone to say invalid password, if the DB looks okay, then have a look at the obtain-token.sh script and check that everything looks okay (echo stuff out, try the requests by hand, etc) | 15:07 |
| Nadeeem | i am pretty sure the vt-x extension is not visible inside the vbox image | 15:07 |
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| Fredric | Hey All, I am digging around in the Nova source code to try to figure out how the "compute_nodes" database table is populated. Does anyone have any pointers? | 15:08 |
| livemoon | hi,all . do you know how to glance db sync? | 15:09 |
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| stevegjacobs | vidd asked me to paste env|grep NOVA - it doesn't match what is in the keystone database - it's all stuff from before | 15:09 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: the nova* settings are overridden by the setting files.. | 15:10 |
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| Kiall | L4 of the script .. https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/blob/master/obtain-token.sh | 15:10 |
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| lelin | i would like to migrate a machine running in my office to the cloud. is there a way to make an image of that and run it the cloud? | 15:16 |
| uncleofthestick | Hi, anybody knows how to enable volumes management in Horizon (the dashboard)? | 15:16 |
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| stevegjacobs | OK - figured it out - | 15:18 |
| Razique | BasTichelaar: very usefull page | 15:18 |
| stevegjacobs | typo in settings from messing with it last night | 15:18 |
| Razique | I would surely defined in a bad way my zones :D | 15:19 |
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| stevegjacobs | I want to continue and try to finish dashboard install - just wondering if I need to change or redo things in order to make sure that I can access existing instances? | 15:20 |
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| livemoon | Razique:what page? | 15:20 |
| Razique | livemoon: for what ? | 15:21 |
| livemoon | you said " very useful page | 15:21 |
| Razique | that one livemoon http://nova.openstack.org/devref/distributed_scheduler.html?highlight=zones | 15:21 |
| Razique | it explains how zones work | 15:22 |
| Razique | so you can have for instance several clouds | 15:22 |
| Razique | and create HA clouds :D easily | 15:22 |
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| livemoon | good | 15:23 |
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| Razique | how long does an instance migration takes ? | 15:25 |
| Razique | fora let's say a small ubuntu image | 15:25 |
| Razique | and - does Diablo uses KVM block migration so a shared storage is no longer required ? | 15:25 |
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| kbringard | Razique: you mean like, a live migration from one hypervisor to another? | 15:26 |
| Razique | yup | 15:26 |
| Razique | Hey kbringard ! | 15:26 |
| kbringard | herro | 15:26 |
| kbringard | it should be pretty quick | 15:26 |
| kbringard | like, < 10 or 15 seconds | 15:26 |
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| Razique | it's been a while | 15:26 |
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| livemoon | I havenot do block migration sucessfully. | 15:26 |
| Razique | ok, so mine failed :D http://paste.openstack.org/show/3122/ | 15:26 |
| livemoon | Do you have? | 15:26 |
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| Razique | I'm trying now | 15:27 |
| * Razique lacks of compute node here :D | 15:28 | |
| livemoon | good luck | 15:28 |
| livemoon | I am going to sleep | 15:28 |
| Razique | ok livemoon | 15:28 |
| Razique | cya :) | 15:28 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall - don't know if it's a complete success yet, but I just tried dashboard, and it works. | 15:32 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: sorry, middle of one of those "Oh sh**" moments... will be back in a bit ;) | 15:33 |
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| stevegjacobs | clicking on system, I see statistics for prior tennants and two running instances. One of those 'fingers crossed, but looking good moments! | 15:34 |
| gnu111 | who is going to SC '11 in Seattle? | 15:35 |
| tyska | hello guys | 15:35 |
| tyska | what's up? | 15:36 |
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| Razique | hey tyska :) | 15:39 |
| Razique | kbringard: does diablo requires a shared storage ? | 15:39 |
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| Razique | or not ? | 15:39 |
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| tyska | Razique: what's the good news? | 15:40 |
| kbringard | for live migration? | 15:40 |
| kbringard | Razique: ^^ | 15:40 |
| Razique | kbringard: yup :p | 15:40 |
| kbringard | yea | 15:40 |
| kbringard | it always has, even since before Diablo | 15:40 |
| Razique | tyska: finally testing diablo stuff | 15:40 |
| Razique | boot from volume, migration, pause instance | 15:40 |
| Razique | thanks kbringard | 15:41 |
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| tyska | Razique: some new about connecting instances that are running in the server2 (assuming dual node architecture)? | 15:41 |
| uncleofthestick | Hi, anybody knows if volumes management is supported in Horizon (the dashboard)? I know it was, but now I can't see it | 15:42 |
| Razique | tyska: you mean zones ? | 15:42 |
| tyska | Razique: i dont know, im new in Open Stack, i have 2 servers, the first has all the controllers including a nova-compute, and the second one has only a nova-compute | 15:44 |
| tyska | Razique: everything looks fine, but instances that are scheduled to server2 i cant reach | 15:44 |
| Razique | tyska: yah, same setup here | 15:44 |
| Razique | tyska: check nova-netowork.log when u spawn | 15:45 |
| tyska | Razique: and you can ping and ssh instances on server2? | 15:45 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: so, how's it looking? | 15:45 |
| Razique | tyska: sure I've one "controller" and 5 nodes | 15:45 |
| Razique | works great | 15:45 |
| tyska | Razique: great! | 15:45 |
| tyska | Razique: then i will need a hand to do this =) | 15:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887162 in nova "VM interface goes down because of short dhcp lease" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887162 | 15:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887164 in nova "DistributedScheduler via the MultiScheduler fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887164 | 15:46 |
| Razique | totally :) | 15:46 |
| Razique | don't hesitate | 15:46 |
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| tyska | Razique: im getting the following error in network.log - http://pastebin.com/rP3i5Edw | 15:47 |
| Razique | tyska: what nova-manage service list shows | 15:48 |
| Razique | and ; show me both ifconfig, and nova.conf | 15:48 |
| tyska | Razique: there is a weird thing | 15:48 |
| tyska | Razique: sometimes a run nova-manage command and it fails | 15:48 |
| tyska | Razique: the i run again, and the command works | 15:49 |
| tyska | *i run | 15:49 |
| tyska | then* | 15:49 |
| tyska | and the error message on nova-manage.log says nothing conclusive - http://pastebin.com/uYW7iP3t | 15:50 |
| Razique | does the DB backend runs ? | 15:53 |
| tyska | how can i see it? | 15:53 |
| tyska | Razique: here i placed a group of useful information - http://pastebin.com/5yB4Wk7m | 15:55 |
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| stevegjacobs | Kiall: seems I got logged out freenode | 16:05 |
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| Razique | tyska: can u show me the /etc/network/interfaces of the node ? | 16:05 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: ;) | 16:05 |
| stevegjacobs | New dashboard is impressve | 16:05 |
| Kiall | I had just asked how it was going? | 16:05 |
| Kiall | Old instances okay? | 16:06 |
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| stevegjacobs | but some things not showing | 16:06 |
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| stevegjacobs | old instances are still there, but I can't vnc into them - that's all I've tried so far | 16:06 |
| stevegjacobs | I also don't see any images, but that is probably because I imported old glance data | 16:07 |
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| stevegjacobs | and the images I had were probably marked 'private' | 16:07 |
| Kiall | yea - VNC seems, broken in diablo | 16:07 |
| stevegjacobs | is there some way to make those public? | 16:07 |
| Kiall | import a new image into glance, and you can then compare the DB fields | 16:08 |
| stevegjacobs | ok | 16:08 |
| Kiall | or .. | 16:08 |
| Kiall | UPDATE images SET is_public = 1 AND owner = NULL; | 16:08 |
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| stevegjacobs | the two you scripted for already in there - oneiric and lucid | 16:08 |
| Kiall | owner = NULL is basically "system" images, everyone can get to them... | 16:09 |
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| stevegjacobs | that sounds easy | 16:09 |
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| * Kiall has 1 instance chewing 100% of 1x core (its a 2 core VM) and refusing to reboot, console is dud aswell -_- | 16:10 | |
| vidd | keystone database has changed since 31 October...right? | 16:10 |
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| vidd | zykes-, you here? | 16:14 |
| Razique | kbringard: erf, that requires to restart libvirt, you could potentially loose instances then ? | 16:15 |
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| troya | hi all | 16:19 |
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| vidd | hello troya | 16:20 |
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| troya | oh...i'm sory, it's appear i'm wrong channel . hehehe | 16:21 |
| troya | bye vidd :D | 16:21 |
| troya | i must to go to #pentaho | 16:21 |
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| Razique | kbringard: what about using iscsi instead of NFS for the shared "instances" dir ? | 16:25 |
| Razique | wouldn't we have a much better migration speed ? | 16:25 |
| Razique | of is NFS enough ? | 16:25 |
| Razique | since migration only dumps configuration, not the disk | 16:25 |
| Razique | as qemu is ablto to do since it's 0.12 version | 16:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887182 in keystone "keystone-manage still lists a tenant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887182 | 16:25 |
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| ryan_fox1985 | hi I'm starting with openstack swift and I'm seaching for the differences between swauth, keystone, tempauth, devauth?¿ | 16:30 |
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| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: most simply, it's a matter of history. I'll try to explain | 16:30 |
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| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: devauth was the original auth system included in swift. it wasn't prod-ready and was only meant for dev work | 16:31 |
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| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: devauth was then replaced with swauth. swauth is implemented in middleware and uses the swift cluster itself for its backing store | 16:31 |
| stevegjacobs | Kiall, I can see the images now. I will have to go through all the things in the dashboard and see what works | 16:31 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985:swauth is prod-ready code | 16:31 |
| Kiall | yea, and you'll need to update the compute node to use keystone auth.. | 16:32 |
| Kiall | (have a look at the nova script, its pretty simple..) | 16:32 |
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| stevegjacobs | One thing - does anyone know how to make a copy (snapshot) of a running instance - and then launch that as a new instance/. | 16:33 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: however, we realized that an full auth system doesn't really belong in swift itself, so we removed it and replaced it with tempauth. tempauth is basically the same thing as swauth, but it's managed entirely from the proxy config file. tempauth is intended for dev or POC work (because managing a config file a reloading the proxy makes tempauth harder to use) | 16:33 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: tempauth is very simple and very easy to use, though. it's perfect for dev work | 16:33 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: hit the snapshot button in the dash ;) | 16:33 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: but .. make sure you have the nova-computed updated, the oneiric ones dont snapshot corrected AFAIK | 16:34 |
| ryan_fox1985 | Oks thanks! | 16:34 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: keystone is part of the future of openstack. it's managed completely separately from swift and has its own team developing it. keystone is not so much an auth system itself as an integration point for whatever auth system you want. | 16:34 |
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| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: what you use would depend on your use case | 16:35 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: I'd recommend tempauth for dev or POC work, swauth if you are doing swift-only prod work, and keystone if you are using multiple parts of openstack | 16:35 |
| ryan_fox1985 | I need to add acl Access control list to the containers | 16:35 |
| ryan_fox1985 | I think that tempauth do this | 16:36 |
| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: tempauth and swauth both support ACLs. keystone is currently working on it (I think). | 16:36 |
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| notmyname | ryan_fox1985: http://programmerthoughts.com/openstack/swift-permissions/ | 16:36 |
| ryan_fox1985 | Yes I already configure with tempauth | 16:36 |
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| stevegjacobs | Trying to figure out if I can log into dashboard as old users | 16:40 |
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| Kiall | stevegjacobs: you cant | 16:42 |
| Kiall | only keystone users + tennants | 16:42 |
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| Kiall | you can edit all the old DB records to point at keystone users easy enough tho | 16:42 |
| stevegjacobs | in system panel I see my old 'tenants' but I can't access them when logged in as admin. Instance I want to snapshot is one under old tenant | 16:43 |
| zykes- | now vidd | 16:43 |
| vidd | zykes-, can your dashboard show tenat and user pages? | 16:43 |
| Razique | look guys :D http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/readwritecloud/~3/kOsuOr1IOd0/infographic-the-state-of-opens.php | 16:43 |
| zykes- | lemme see vidd | 16:44 |
| Kiall | stevegjacobs: you were using keystone before? or do you mean projects? | 16:44 |
| stevegjacobs | They were projects - didn't have keystone before | 16:44 |
| zykes- | gah, can't reach my machine atm vidd | 16:44 |
| Kiall | yea, okay.. hoesntly cant tell you why they are showing, but they probably shouldn't be :) | 16:44 |
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| stevegjacobs | because I couldn' get keystone to work | 16:44 |
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| Kiall | create tenants (projects) and keystone users to match, then update the old DB records as needed | 16:45 |
| stevegjacobs | I see them when I click on system | 16:45 |
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| stevegjacobs | I'll have a go at that. | 16:46 |
| vidd | what is the command to ssh in with a .pem? | 16:47 |
| stevegjacobs | Kiall - thanks a lot for all your help and advice! | 16:47 |
| zykes- | vidd: ssh -i <path to pem file here> <host/ip> | 16:47 |
| Kiall | no hassle.. i tend to just keep IRC open on my 3rd screen ;) Helps keep me sane | 16:47 |
| vidd | *forehead-slap* i was putting -k =\ | 16:48 |
| stevegjacobs | Don't think it's quite time to celebrate with a beer yet, but maybe a chocolate bar is in order! | 16:48 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887191 in nova "OS API: XML Namespace Handling Broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887191 | 16:51 |
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| Razique | have you ever used ""nova-manage vm block_migration"" | 17:04 |
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| zykes- | have oyu Razique ? | 17:21 |
| Razique | I am :) | 17:21 |
| Razique | but doesn't seem to work | 17:21 |
| zykes- | Razique: what you use for vm storage ? | 17:22 |
| Razique | atm it's a local repo | 17:22 |
| Razique | that's why i'm trying block migration, not live migration | 17:22 |
| Razique | nothing happens | 17:24 |
| Razique | the log moves | 17:24 |
| Razique | but the instances doesn't | 17:24 |
| Razique | while obviously no error | 17:24 |
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| Razique | here is what happens after the vm block_migration --ec2_id XXXX --dest host2 | 17:25 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/3125/ | 17:25 |
| zykes- | haven't tested ;p | 17:25 |
| Razique | I see that 2011-11-07 18:23:25,257 INFO nova.virt.libvirt_conn [-] instance instance-00000033: deleting instance files /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000033 | 17:25 |
| zykes- | i don't have hosts to test with | 17:25 |
| Razique | but the dir remains :D | 17:25 |
| Razique | I've two VMs on the laptop | 17:26 |
| Razique | :p | 17:26 |
| Razique | gtg home | 17:28 |
| Razique | be back ther | 17:28 |
| Razique | cya :) | 17:28 |
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| stevegjacobs | More fun - just tried to make a snap shot of an image from Openstack Dashboard - got this error: Unexpected error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. | 17:35 |
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| stevegjacobs | Haha 'the server has erred' ! that seems funny to me! I thought it was only server ADMINISTRATORS or PROGRAMMERS who erred. Now I know who to blame when things go wrong! | 17:37 |
| stevegjacobs | well - it's time to go home now. | 17:39 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: are you there? | 17:44 |
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| stevegjacobs | It's been a good day and I'm happy to gotten this far | 17:50 |
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| jiva | is this api complete: ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQChawrOkbe2S/ojJ6CS6lNB7RM424MXMIkfENTlDUTRr4bpMiaS4dhIESIpRSdpgSkbCOfEIpztq16ZGzPL1BXpGCQbHVeh9vH6NvMI8ZCZWKdVcCd+Lg8qefa6V195YtXDRSosje9nw1NzQ3U+I9L4OF+9lfGivTLCDpIkAI92+dNSUc6XBIkwD9A1y6qgxDT+E5sJ9f4HShPI86CCw5bHKt/AQQRJX/RfHmzAWJs7J/bl1K3kFHrRhmyvnKWtYjBgZWnGkgGNW83B0yASMsRP5RZzssKP7waGnXG6KCIZfp3C1oQp298d9McoKMSy9iBj+a0e4IP0XSCYOYFpKZBH jiva@devstack | 17:52 |
| jiva | crap | 17:52 |
| jiva | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.1/content/API_Operations-d1e2068.html | 17:52 |
| jiva | that link i mean, stupid clipboard | 17:53 |
| jaypipes | jiva: I would use Diablo, not Cactus | 17:53 |
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| magg | hello | 18:05 |
| magg | so | 18:05 |
| magg | vidd | 18:05 |
| magg | u there? | 18:05 |
| magg | im still getting Unexpected error: Expecting passwordCredentials at the dashboard login | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887225 in glance "python-crypto now dependency after 5e6fb33b22c" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887225 | 18:06 |
| magg | i already did the sync db command | 18:06 |
| magg | :( help plz | 18:07 |
| magg | zykes-? | 18:07 |
| vidd | magg, sorry...im back | 18:07 |
| vidd | magg, did you set dash to use mysql or sqlite? | 18:08 |
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| magg | i think the default db is sqlite | 18:08 |
| magg | im using the default | 18:08 |
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| vidd | i cant help then....unless you know how to look at the database structure with sqlite | 18:09 |
| vidd | by the way...do you have keystone installed and set up? | 18:09 |
| magg | yeah | 18:09 |
| magg | i do | 18:09 |
| magg | nah i dont know how to query sqlite :( | 18:10 |
| vidd | magg, and its working properly...you have nova set up to use it and euca2ools work? | 18:10 |
| magg | yeah | 18:10 |
| Kiall | vidd / magg "Unexpected error: Expecting passwordCredentials at the dashboard login" | 18:11 |
| Kiall | 99% sure thats due to a syntax change in keystone | 18:11 |
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| vidd | either your local settings are messed up or your dashboard database is messed up | 18:11 |
| Kiall | neither | 18:11 |
| vidd | "but it was working fine all morning" | 18:12 |
| Kiall | the auth request is something like this: | 18:12 |
| Kiall | "{\"auth\": {\"passwordCredentials\": {\"username\": \"$NOVA_USERNAME\", \"password\": \"$NOVA_API_KEY\"}}}" | 18:12 |
| Kiall | it used to not have the {\"passwordCredentials\": section | 18:12 |
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| vidd | sorry...wrong windows =\ | 18:12 |
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| magg | so wait it's a bug or something? | 18:13 |
| vidd | magg, no..version mis-match | 18:13 |
| Kiall | I'm 99% sure your running an old dashboard and new keystone, or an old keystone and new dashboard | 18:14 |
| Kiall | I had that issue at one point.. | 18:14 |
| magg | oh | 18:14 |
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| magg | Kiall: my dashboard is up to date with git... im using the keystone from the ubuntu repos | 18:14 |
| Kiall | that explains it ;) | 18:14 |
| magg | uhh... | 18:14 |
| Kiall | your installing windows 95 drivers into windows 7 ;) | 18:15 |
| Kiall | diablo and essex may as well be win 95 and win 7... | 18:15 |
| Kiall | they won't mix well ;) | 18:15 |
| magg | the dashboard is essex | 18:15 |
| magg | come on.. | 18:15 |
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| vidd | magg, try using the "stable" brach of the dashboard? | 18:16 |
| Kiall | vidd: actually, that wont work either sadly.. | 18:16 |
| magg | fml | 18:16 |
| Kiall | the ubuntu version of keystone is pre-diablo | 18:16 |
| vidd | wtf | 18:17 |
| vidd | Kiall, you really need to make .debs of your stuff =] | 18:17 |
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| magg | so my only solution is to update my packages? | 18:17 |
| Kiall | Yea - I realized when I noticed a file had been moved (ec2_token.py) from nova to keytone (or the other way around) | 18:17 |
| vidd | at least make them available to download | 18:17 |
| Kiall | vidd: you mean these? https://launchpad.net/~managedit/+archive/openstack | 18:17 |
| magg | keystone, nova and glance | 18:17 |
| magg | ? | 18:18 |
| Kiall | Anwway - Yea - I realized when I noticed a file had been moved (ec2_token.py) from nova to keystone (or the other way around) and neither of the ubuntu packages had it ;) | 18:18 |
| vidd | Kiall, yes...but downloadable | 18:18 |
| magg | you guys gotta push updates to the ubuntu repos.. come on | 18:18 |
| Kiall | vidd: umm.. they are downloadable | 18:18 |
| Kiall | magg: I gave on up waiting for them to fix the ubuntu packages and rolled my own... | 18:19 |
| Kiall | They probably will at some point, but so far it doesnt look good for keystone or dash getting any updates... | 18:19 |
| vidd | Kiall, ok...i got to them | 18:20 |
| magg | ummm | 18:20 |
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| vidd | Kiall, have you applied to have your packages added to the repo's? | 18:20 |
| magg | Kiall: if I add your packages will it work? | 18:21 |
| magg | you have a ppa or something | 18:21 |
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| Bwong | Which documentation should I follow if I have the lastest version of Ubuntu? -Can someone please link me the site? | 18:22 |
| Kiall | vidd: no i haven't | 18:22 |
| vidd | Bwong, there is no "complete-averything in one place" guide | 18:22 |
| Kiall | magg: they work, but I'd be willing to bet you have a pile of random stuff in /usr/local that will override+break them ;) | 18:23 |
| Bwong | vidd: oh ok, where is a good place to start | 18:23 |
| vidd | Bwong, but htis is the closest http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/openstackbookv2-0_csscorp.pdf | 18:23 |
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| Bwong | vidd: thanks | 18:23 |
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| magg | what the flying fuuuuuu!! | 18:23 |
| vidd | Bwong, there is a major step missing and they want you to reboot all nova services b4 database is ready (which wont work properly) | 18:24 |
| Kiall | given a clean install of ubuntu, I can get keystone+nova+glance+dash setup in 30-35 mins, most of that waiting for downloads ;) | 18:24 |
| Kiall | 30-45* | 18:24 |
| magg | damn... | 18:24 |
| Kiall | my point is .. its not hard, unless you either A) use broken packages or B) try and mix essex and diablo | 18:25 |
| magg | yeah i get your point | 18:25 |
| magg | its not hard to set it up | 18:25 |
| Bwong | vidd: which point is that? | 18:25 |
| vidd | Bwong, when you are setting up the volumes do this :http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-volumes.html | 18:26 |
| magg | where can i get your packages anyway? | 18:26 |
| Kiall | magg: they are in the PPA i linked to a few mins ago.. along with basic instructions | 18:26 |
| magg | https://launchpad.net/~managedit/+archive/openstack ???? | 18:27 |
| vidd | Bwong, and skip restarting sevices untill after the "nova-manage db sync" step | 18:27 |
| Kiall | yea | 18:27 |
| magg | ooks | 18:27 |
| magg | thanks | 18:27 |
| Bwong | vidd: so the managing-volumes is for Chapter 5 Storage Management ? 5.1 Nova-volume | 18:27 |
| Kiall | magg: I can guarantee they won't work for us, *unless*, you clear out anything you have installed already | 18:27 |
| Kiall | for you* | 18:28 |
| Kiall | eg anything in /usr/local, and the ubuntu packages | 18:28 |
| magg | yeah i get it, i would need a clean install | 18:28 |
| magg | i won't installed on my current setup, just for reference | 18:29 |
| vidd | um....when you are setting up nova, the guide from cssoss has you set up the LVM but skips the step of giving nova sudo rights | 18:29 |
| magg | install them** | 18:29 |
| Kiall | "pip install" / "python setup.py" etc all install stuff that will override anything the package manager installs | 18:29 |
| vidd | if nova does not have sudo rights, your nova services will not restart properly | 18:29 |
| Bwong | I see. | 18:30 |
| Bwong | Trying to find the LVM part. | 18:30 |
| Kiall | magg: and if you're really lazy... https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup | 18:30 |
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| magg | ohh nicee! | 18:32 |
| Kiall | Yea, they are the scripts I use ;) | 18:32 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #887236 in keystone "Make extensions configurable." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887236 | 18:33 |
| Kiall | They do very very little, its more the instruction the give out, and the config templates generate ;) | 18:33 |
| Kiall | I probably installed openstack on fresh ubuntu installs 10 times before I got it all working, so I eventually decided to script it ;) | 18:34 |
| vidd | Kiall, does your dashboard import keystoneclient? | 18:34 |
| magg | hahaha | 18:34 |
| magg | i almost hit 10 installs i think | 18:35 |
| vidd | magg, it took me over 40 fresh installs | 18:35 |
| magg | fuuuuuuu | 18:35 |
| Kiall | vidd: "my dashboard" is the stable/diablo branch.. so if it does... | 18:35 |
| vidd | but im hard-headed =] | 18:35 |
| Kiall | and insist of installing a mix of essex and diablo ;) | 18:35 |
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| vidd | Kiall, i couldnt get your .debs =\ | 18:36 |
| Kiall | vidd: Its a standard launchpad PPA ;) | 18:37 |
| vidd | Kiall, i dont use ppa's | 18:37 |
| Kiall | then keep using git clones ;) | 18:37 |
| vidd | they wont install for some reason | 18:37 |
| Kiall | huh .. what do you mean? | 18:37 |
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| vidd | the "apt-add-repository" always fails for some reason | 18:38 |
| vidd | so i swore off using them...what? 3 years ago =] | 18:39 |
| Kiall | as in, it cant find the command? | 18:39 |
| vidd | yes | 18:39 |
| Kiall | apt-get install python-software-properties | 18:39 |
| Kiall | it doesnt come with ubuntu server by default | 18:39 |
| Kiall | (and what a package name for it -_-_ | 18:39 |
| Kiall | (and what a package name for it -_-) | 18:39 |
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| Kiall | vidd: anyway, the raw debs are here http://ppa.launchpad.net/managedit/openstack/ubuntu/pool/main/ | 18:41 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: pong | 18:41 |
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| vidd | Kiall, bookmarked | 18:42 |
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| vidd | i was supposed to have a demo 40 minutes ago, but they post-poned it AGAIN | 18:43 |
| vidd | im starting to think they are afraid of it =] | 18:43 |
| jiva | Has anyone used the API service to successfully inject keypairs into an instance? I can't find it in the API, but I can see how Horizon does it by tcpdump'ing | 18:43 |
| vidd | jiva, you mean like "start an instance without keypair; reliase your forgot to add it; then add the keypair"? | 18:45 |
| jiva | something like that, except I want to query the API service instead of using euca2ools | 18:45 |
| Kiall | jiva: you can only inject keypairs when you create the instance... | 18:46 |
| * vidd was not aware you could add a keypair after the instance was already running | 18:46 | |
| jiva | Can you do it through the API service? That's my main problem | 18:46 |
| jiva | I cant find it in the API | 18:46 |
| Kiall | well ..I think is something for injecting files into a running instance, if you use XenServer.. but never looked at it | 18:46 |
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| Kiall | jiva: there is no way to inject a key into a running instance that I know of.. (Though, I think, if you use XenServer, you can inject files into a pre-defined folder (aka not /root/.ssh) | 18:47 |
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| jiva | That's fine, I was just wondering it how to do it via the API service | 18:49 |
| Kiall | but - it cant be done? | 18:49 |
| Kiall | if it cant be done, how could be it done via the API ;) | 18:49 |
| fulanito | hi | 18:51 |
| fulanito | I am having some problems following openstack diablo tutorial on the uploading to openstack part | 18:51 |
| Bwong | vidd: does the cssoss guide include installing the UI? | 18:51 |
| vidd | so...i see vmware has this nifty tool to convert running software to metal servers into vmware virtual machines..... | 18:52 |
| fulanito | when I use cloud-publish-image amd64 serverfinal.img bucket1 | 18:52 |
| vidd | Bwong, no | 18:52 |
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| Kiall | Bwong: i dont think it does keystone or dash | 18:52 |
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| Bwong | Is the UI working for ubuntu currently? | 18:53 |
| jiva | Sorry for the misunderstanding, I just needed to know how to inject a key into an instance (not a running instance) | 18:53 |
| vidd | once i have the server running as a vware vm...how to move it to my opensatck deployment =\ | 18:53 |
| Kiall | jiva: ah.. sorry | 18:53 |
| vidd | Bwong, yes | 18:53 |
| jiva | which I think i found, it's the "personality" attribute when creating an instance | 18:53 |
| jiva | it takes a path and a content variable | 18:53 |
| Bwong | vidd: whats the best documentation for installing the UI? | 18:53 |
| Kiall | jiva: I don't know the API that well, just its capabilities ;) | 18:54 |
| vidd | Bwong, just NOT the keystone and dash from ubuntu repos | 18:54 |
| vidd | heh..us! | 18:54 |
| fulanito | the output of the command is failed: euca-upload-bundle --bucket bucket1 --manifest /tmp/cloud-publish-image.Z4R5gt/serverfinal.img.manifest.xml | 18:54 |
| fulanito | and failed: euca-upload-bundle --bucket bucket1 --manifest /tmp/cloud-publish-image.Z4R5gt/serverfinal.img.manifest.xml | 18:54 |
| jiva | Thanks though, I'm working on a project and am trying to use the API service directly instead of euca2ools | 18:54 |
| Kiall | Bwong: the ubuntu packages dont work with keystone or dashboard (the UI) - at all. | 18:55 |
| Kiall | Bwong: I did update them for myself though, https://launchpad.net/~managedit/+archive/openstack | 18:55 |
| vidd | Bwong, the best "documentation" i found is deciphering what the devstack script does | 18:55 |
| Kiall | vidd++ | 18:55 |
| chadh | So what is the best practice for configuring image storage on compute nodes? Can they all just mount the same nfs share in /var/lib/nova/instances? | 18:56 |
| Kiall | i basically copied the devstack script setup parts into my own: https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup | 18:56 |
| vidd | Kiall, the ubuntu repo nova and glance most certainly do work with keystone and dash | 18:56 |
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| magg | huh | 18:56 |
| Kiall | vidd: really? fair enough .. | 18:56 |
| Kiall | the keystone and dash packages are broken for sure though ;) | 18:57 |
| vidd | Kiall, you just need a chisel, two screwdrivers and a BFH | 18:57 |
| chadh | How about the _base directory? Should it be local? Does it have to be large enough to hold every image or just images currently running as instances? | 18:57 |
| Kiall | chadh: /var/lib/nova/instances should be NFS mounted for live migration.. | 18:57 |
| Kiall | (or just shared.. NFS or otherwise) | 18:57 |
| chadh | Kiall: the whole thing? I heard there was some performance problems with _base being remote? | 18:58 |
| Kiall | there may be perf issues, but the docs says the whole thing.. | 18:59 |
| Kiall | there could be other ways around it.. | 18:59 |
| chadh | Kiall: is that in the nova compute admin guide? | 18:59 |
| Kiall | but i would imagine live migration would fail if the base folder wasnt shared | 18:59 |
| Kiall | yea | 18:59 |
| Kiall | there is a live migration section that talks about it | 18:59 |
| chadh | I can certainly start that way. I have about 80 really beefy nodes, and I imagine I will have to do something a little special eventually | 19:00 |
| chadh | Kiall: I noticed that doc. I think it is new. I'll take a look | 19:00 |
| Kiall | chadh: yea .. the docs (rightly) go for the simple approach :) | 19:00 |
| chadh | I'm okay with that as long as there are great resources like this IRC channel and forum | 19:01 |
| fulanito | does anyone know how to solve the problem? | 19:02 |
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| fulanito | failed: euca-upload-bundle --bucket bucket1 --manifest /tmp/cloud-publish-image.Z4R5gt/serverfinal.img.manifest.xml | 19:02 |
| fulanito | Checking bucket: bucket1 | 19:02 |
| fulanito | [Errno 111] Connection refused | 19:02 |
| fulanito | failed to upload bundle to bucket1/serverfinal.img.manifest.xml | 19:02 |
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| Kiall | "Connection refused" would suggest the server side is not running... have you checked it is? | 19:03 |
| vidd | fulanito, can you do euca-describe-images without en errno 111? | 19:03 |
| fulanito | yes | 19:04 |
| vidd | fulanito, did you check the server side as Kiall suggested? | 19:04 |
| Kiall | anyway - im off.. cyas | 19:05 |
| vidd | l8r Kiall | 19:05 |
| fulanito | it is running | 19:05 |
| Bwong | laters | 19:05 |
| vidd | fulanito, are you running keystone? | 19:06 |
| fulanito | yes | 19:06 |
| vidd | are you uploading to glance file or swift | 19:07 |
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| fulanito | the steps now I am following are these http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Uploading_to_OpenStack-d1e1534.html | 19:09 |
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| Bwong | vidd: so the ubuntu repos don't have the right keystone and dash packages, does CentOS have the right packages? | 19:17 |
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| vidd | Bwong, dunno...never touched the stuff | 19:18 |
| Bwong | vidd: oh, you only ran it through ubuntu? | 19:18 |
| vidd | Bwong, right...redhat scares me....had a bad experience with it many many years ago | 19:19 |
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| Bwong | vidd: oh alright. | 19:20 |
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| vidd | Bwong, the keystone and dashboard setups ar relatively easy....or you can just add Kiall's PPA | 19:20 |
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| vidd | https://launchpad.net/~managedit/+archive/openstack/ | 19:21 |
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| vidd | Bwong, Kiall's stuff all work nicely together (at least thats what ive been told) | 19:21 |
| vidd | i havent personally used it but i trust the ppl that say it works =] | 19:22 |
| Bwong | Ok, I will proceed with installing now. | 19:22 |
| Bwong | I just don't want to make big mistakes, because I don't have a ubuntu install script | 19:23 |
| Bwong | if I mess up, its going to take a bit to reinstall | 19:23 |
| Bwong | haha | 19:23 |
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| vidd | what do you mean "ubuntu install script"? | 19:23 |
| Bwong | a script that installs ubuntu vm. | 19:24 |
| vidd | Bwong, https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup has Kiall' instructions for install of openstack =] | 19:25 |
| Bwong | oh | 19:25 |
| Bwong | i was going to use cssoss | 19:25 |
| Bwong | but I can use this one... | 19:25 |
| Bwong | since I am going to be follow kialls instructions later on anyways. | 19:26 |
| vidd | Bwong, he says using his repo's and scripts, he can do a full install in less than an hour | 19:26 |
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| vidd | individual results may vary | 19:27 |
| Bwong | ok | 19:28 |
| * vidd is tempted to mak a scipt to install his ppa and run his scripts | 19:29 | |
| vidd | zykes-, you get to your computer yet? | 19:31 |
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| zykes- | vidd: bope :( | 19:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #887278 in swift "swift-recon disk usage distribution graph is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887278 | 19:45 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #887288 in swift "proxy memory usage grows" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887288 | 19:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #887293 in devstack "HOST_IP not set correctly on multiple runs of stack.sh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887293 | 20:12 |
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| praefect | hi guys, I'd like to know if any of you manage to render permanent the changes you make to an image (boot a VM, modify the disk in some way, snapshot the volume, volumize the snapshot and than make a new image out of it)?? | 20:24 |
| praefect | that would be awesome by the way | 20:24 |
| praefect | the thing is I'm having trouble running an UEC image outside the cloud... | 20:24 |
| kbringard | you can snapshot an image using the qemu-img commands | 20:26 |
| kbringard | https://github.com/kevinbringard/OpenStack-tools/blob/master/snapshot-instance.bash | 20:26 |
| kbringard | this script should do it for you | 20:26 |
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| kbringard | you should just have to run that on the compute node the instance was assigned to | 20:26 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: still there? | 20:31 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: yup | 20:31 |
| kbringard | this is the funni/awesome{est} thing I've seen on the internet in a week | 20:31 |
| kbringard | https://github.com/juuso/BozoCrack | 20:31 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i don't want to bother you but have you received my mail? i'm not sure the mail address was correct or not | 20:32 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: I don't think I did get a recent email from you. if you can, go ahead and ask in here | 20:32 |
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| alperkanat | am let me paste because it has some outputs | 20:32 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3130/ | 20:33 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: a (perhaps important) point if clarification is that reading from /dev/urandom and writing into a single file is writing random data, but it is not doing random writes | 20:38 |
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| alperkanat | i don't get what you mean | 20:40 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: random writes would be to many files in random places across the HDD platter. writing data to one file (even if it's random data) should simply move the write head on the HDD smoothly across the platter | 20:42 |
| alperkanat | yes that i know but i don't get what this has to do with swift? | 20:43 |
| alperkanat | you know that our write performance is horrible | 20:43 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: also, by running a non-ssl proxy and getting the same results, that should eliminate ssl being the bottleneck | 20:43 |
| alperkanat | yes.. i really wished that it was the problem | 20:44 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: it could be write speed of the HDD (unlikely). that could be tested with a tool like bonnie. or perhaps by simply looking at the io activity on the active luster | 20:45 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: however, that is probably unlikely. | 20:45 |
| alperkanat | i think so. because all 4 machines are nearly the same | 20:45 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: we've already eliminated the link between the proxy and storage nodes as being the issue? | 20:45 |
| alperkanat | 10g network it's | 20:46 |
| notmyname | ok. and you were getting bad performance with swift-bench with zero byte files (ie no network contention) | 20:47 |
| notmyname | so it's not the network link between the proxy and storage node | 20:47 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: http://cl.ly/BcJC | 20:47 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: outer traffic on proxy: http://cl.ly/Bb5U | 20:49 |
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| alperkanat | internal traffic between proxy and storage nodes: http://cl.ly/Bbi2 | 20:49 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: you've got about 1 worker / core on the proxies and sotrage servers? CPU overloaded anywhere? out of memory anywhere? | 20:54 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: this may be a long shot, but are you seeing any timeout errors in your proxy log as the proxy is trying to talk to the storage nodes? it may be possible that you have a timeout config set too low | 20:55 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: proxy stats: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3131/ -- it has 16 cores | 20:56 |
| notmyname | why can't it be something simple? ;-) | 20:57 |
| notmyname | any reason you have 8 workers but 16 cores? | 20:58 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3132/ -- it has 8 cores | 20:58 |
| notmyname | (I'd expect problems if you only had 1 worker, but not necessarily if you have 8 workers) | 20:58 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i tried to stick with the docs as it said rackspace used those configs too | 20:59 |
| notmyname | heh, our servers have 8 cores :-) | 20:59 |
| alperkanat | 1 worker per CPU is better? | 20:59 |
| alperkanat | i believe it should even be better this way :p | 20:59 |
| alperkanat | since proxies are more CPU intensive (as said in docs) i arranged that server with 16 cores (we currently only have 1 proxy) | 21:00 |
| alperkanat | will look at the proxy log now for timeouts (syslog?) | 21:00 |
| notmyname | ya, syslog | 21:01 |
| alperkanat | grepping & tailing | 21:01 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3133/ | 21:02 |
| alperkanat | but this is for GET's | 21:03 |
| alperkanat | not for PUTS | 21:03 |
| alperkanat | GETs were OK at the benchmark as far as i remember | 21:04 |
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| alperkanat | but we have timeouts for PUTs too :) | 21:04 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3134/ | 21:05 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: do you think increasing timeout will increase write speed? (unlikely) | 21:07 |
| tdi | hi there, what is the preffered doc to install openstack stack ? http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallInstructions/Nova | 21:07 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: no, probably not | 21:07 |
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| alperkanat | i also had plans to deploy swift on another project (with probably the same hardware) but this is a killer problem for me. i can provide you any information to solve this | 21:08 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: you've got quite a few of use talking here :-) | 21:08 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: yes appreciate that | 21:08 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: what's the chain the request goes through on the proxy again? | 21:09 |
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| alperkanat | client -> http -> nginx -> https -> proxy -> storage | 21:09 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: I'll say again: the ssl isnt' buying you anything :-) | 21:10 |
| notmyname | except latency | 21:10 |
| alperkanat | i know. i plan to stop it after some critic transfers are over | 21:11 |
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| tdi | and one more, version 2011.3 is the diablo ? | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: actually, I'd recommend that you get rid of nginx too :-) | 21:12 |
| notmyname | to eliminate the link to the storage nodes, try doing a simple network test between your proxy and storage nodes with netcat | 21:12 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i generally use the bare proxy address for testing (especially while running benchmarks and uploads) nginx is only used when our own API is used for managing files and get requests from clients) -- and i can't get rid of nginx since it's critical for us | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: what auth are you running? | 21:14 |
| stevegjacobs__ | Just got a good install of openstack going today - controller and two compute nodes with keystone + dashboard | 21:14 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: swauth | 21:14 |
| stevegjacobs__ | but having a problem with dashboard snapshots | 21:15 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: and your auth system is returning the direct to proxy address for the account you are testing? this will eliminate the nginx part of the chain | 21:15 |
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| stevegjacobs__ | Unexpected error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. | 21:16 |
| zykes- | let's get neotronium <3 | 21:16 |
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| stevegjacobs__ | trying to figure out why this is happening | 21:16 |
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| stevegjacobs__ | where are dashboard logs? | 21:17 |
| tdi | please can somebody tell me which doc is the right one to follow on the installation of compute element? | 21:17 |
| zykes- | vidd: ? | 21:17 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: what filesystem are you using? | 21:17 |
| vidd | yes zykes- | 21:17 |
| zykes- | vidd: http://www.slideshare.net/nestorhp/neutronium | 21:17 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: xfs as mentioned in docs | 21:17 |
| zykes- | yet nother selling point | 21:17 |
| vidd | did you finally get to your computer? | 21:17 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: yes it returns the direct proxy address but how can i test it? by doing a stat? | 21:18 |
| zykes- | vidd: on a computer but no access to my openstack | 21:18 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: consensus here is that if it were limited by the HDD (or controller or filesystem or whatever) you would have seen that in the dd test | 21:18 |
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| vidd | any idea how long =] | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: swift-bench should pick up that address with it auths with that account | 21:19 |
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| alperkanat | swauth-list with the proper account returns the direct proxy address | 21:20 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: but ya, using st with a stat would test to make sure it's set up properly | 21:20 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: can you rerun swift-bench and paste the results? | 21:20 |
| alperkanat | ok | 21:21 |
| alperkanat | but i haven't changed anything? | 21:21 |
| zykes- | vidd: tmrw | 21:21 |
| notmyname | with that proxy-direct account | 21:21 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: one other thing to try is to use curl to time an upload of single 50MB file | 21:22 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: all accounts are proxy-direct on our system. nginx is only run when our clients use it -- or commands (st, bench, swauth etc) are run against direct proxy addresses | 21:22 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:22 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: st would do? or should i use curl? | 21:22 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: st probably would work. curl would allow you to time the PUT more directly, though | 21:23 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: bench results on an empty account (& proxy-direct addr): http://paste.openstack.org/show/3135/ | 21:25 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: is your controller battery-backed? | 21:27 |
| alperkanat | i have no idea | 21:27 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: 100 MB file upload via st: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3139/ | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: if you have a battery backed controller, then you should make sure it's write buffers are turned on. turning them off means that the syncs-to-disk will probably take much longer. however, if you don't have a battery backed cache, then a power failure could lose writes if you have the cache turned on | 21:29 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: but the controllers are not configured? so there shouldn't be any syncing? (i don't have much knowledge for RAID) | 21:30 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: what are the drives plugged in to then? for example, we use RAID controllers with a battery backed cache but we don't use their RAID functionality. we set them to JBOD mode | 21:32 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: leaseweb told me that it's not possible to attach disks to motherboard unless they used a RAID controller which makes sense. but i didn't know they would have a battery packed or not. i'll ask these to their support | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: sounds good. | 21:33 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: but i'm still not sure that the controller's cache may degrade our speed | 21:34 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3140/ <-- my 100MB upload against my dev VM | 21:34 |
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| alperkanat | :S | 21:35 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: the confusing part about your data is that you get 8 writes/sec but 500 reads/sec | 21:36 |
| notmyname | that almost sounds like some kind of rate limiting | 21:36 |
| notmyname | if it were I/O issues, I'd expect the reads to be affected more | 21:36 |
| alperkanat | what could possibly cause that? i installed the servers and never set anything like that | 21:37 |
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| notmyname | you are using swift 1.2 (right?). we didnt' include any ratelimiting in swift until later (and you have to enable it) | 21:37 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: yes 1.2 | 21:38 |
| notmyname | if there is rate limiting, could it be on the firewall? iptables or whatever you are running? | 21:38 |
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| alperkanat | i don't think we do. we have a switch (which I configured roughly) and have basic iptables rules for NAT -- i don't think switch would cause such a thing -- will check iptables now | 21:40 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3141/ | 21:41 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: ya, that looks ok | 21:43 |
| alperkanat | storage servers have no rules for iptables | 21:43 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: fstab for one of the storage nodes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3142/ | 21:45 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: what os are you using? | 21:48 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: ubuntu 10.04 lts | 21:48 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: more precise: Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS | 21:49 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: again, perhaps a crazy idea, but can you try removing the nobarriers setting (the problem, of course, is that this is a live system)? | 21:50 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: nobarrier is supposed to be used when you have a write cache | 21:50 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: yes it's live | 21:50 |
| notmyname | http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/xfsmounting.html | 21:50 |
| notmyname | see the Write Barriers section | 21:50 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: but i'm currently updating the storage nodes | 21:51 |
| alperkanat | will restart them one by one | 21:51 |
| alperkanat | but even i change it i can't understand the difference until i do it on every storage node since i can't know which one the data is being written on | 21:52 |
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| notmyname | right. you have 3 drives per storage node? so 9 drives total? | 21:52 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: correct | 21:53 |
| alperkanat | each 2 TB | 21:53 |
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| alperkanat | we keep 3 copies | 21:53 |
| alperkanat | and have 3 zones | 21:53 |
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| alperkanat | each zones have each server | 21:54 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: you could use swift-get-nodes to find which 3 drives a specific object is on (like your large object) and then disable it only for those drives | 21:54 |
| alperkanat | disable what? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: another consideration is that as soon as you expand your cluster, you should add a 4th zone to ensure you have handoff nodes (in the case of a hardware failure) | 21:54 |
| notmyname | disable nobarrier | 21:54 |
| notmyname | ie remove the nobarrier option | 21:55 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: and not add the 4th storage node to other zones? | 21:55 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: I'd say a 4th zone is more important that 3 bigger zones | 21:56 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i don't get it. if i only disable 1 storage node's nobarrier how can that make a difference in the case where a file could be written at any node and any disk? | 21:56 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: ok.. will do that | 21:57 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: you are right. disabling it for one drive wouldn't show anything. what I meant was disable it on the 3 drives where one object lives. you can find where an object lives with the swift-get-bodes tool | 21:57 |
| alperkanat | s/that/that (zone thing) | 21:57 |
| notmyname | cool | 21:57 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: of course, swift-bench won't show different results until every drive is updated (since it writes many files across all drives). but your single large file test should be different | 21:58 |
| alperkanat | but how would i use that information since i don't have any problems for READ but WRITE? so i need to overwrite the same file and test if speed is any better? | 21:58 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: however, it's probably a good idea to do some more research on your controllers before you start flipping mount options | 21:58 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: yes | 21:59 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: your 100MB file test, for example | 21:59 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i already mailed leaseweb about the controllers but i believe i'll get a reply tomorrow | 21:59 |
| notmyname | ah, great | 21:59 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: will try it now for the 100 MB test file | 21:59 |
| notmyname | I just don't want to you break stuff on a live system :-) | 21:59 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: well unless i don't touch to the proxy (since it's the only failure point) it probably won't | 22:00 |
| alperkanat | (we only have 1 proxy atm) | 22:01 |
| notmyname | yes, but since you only have 3 zones, if the drive you are messing with is down at the same time another drive fails, you could get write errors (since swift requires 2 successful writes and you don't have any handoff zones) | 22:02 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: maybe i should take out 1 machine and create a new zone at some time? (we don't plan to add a new machine for a while) | 22:03 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3143/ | 22:04 |
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| notmyname | if you only have one box per zone now, you will end up needing to split some boxes to be for the 4th zone. you won't be as protected from all hardware failures, but it will protect you a little more than you are today (http://joearnold.com/2011/06/27/swift-in-the-small/) | 22:04 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: so that gives you the 3 servers and drives you need to edit to test this theory (that nobarrier is slowing you down) | 22:05 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: ok will try in a few mins | 22:05 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: a quick question. now i read the redhat page you provided -- do i understand correctly? incase of write cache with battery-packed OR no write cache i should remove nobarrier option? | 22:08 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: that's how it sounds to me, too. I believe that is correct | 22:11 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: ok thanks | 22:11 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: when you get some free time, the linked page on write barriers has good info | 22:12 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: ok | 22:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #794754 in horizon "failing tests are too verbose" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794754 | 22:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #845868 in horizon "Improve PEP8 violations in dashboard" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845868 | 22:13 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: do you guys have a ppa repo that's always current btw? (for a saio instance or testing env maybe?) | 22:14 |
| notmyname | yes. well not a ppa, but a normal debian repo | 22:14 |
| notmyname | http://crashsite.github.com/swift_debian/ | 22:15 |
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| alperkanat | does it work for ubuntu? (i'll create an arch repo or aur packages when i'm free) | 22:16 |
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| alperkanat | btw i got confused for nobarrier option.. since it says add nobarrier option if you have no write cache or you have write cache with battery-packed.. so only left case is write cache with no batteries packed? :) | 22:17 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: yes, those packages are what we use on our production clusters (also running latest LTS) | 22:19 |
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| alperkanat | cool | 22:20 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: ok, I have some new suggestions | 22:25 |
| alperkanat | ok? | 22:27 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: test one disk with bonnie against a sibling directory to the objects (like /srv/node/sda/testdir). of course, read the docs first | 22:28 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: also you can test directly to a single object server or container server using walt (link coming...) | 22:28 |
| alperkanat | i never heard bonnie and walt | 22:29 |
| notmyname | walt -> https://github.com/gholt/tcod/blob/master/walt | 22:29 |
| notmyname | walt is something we wrote for some swift testing | 22:29 |
| notmyname | bonnie is a standard filesystem tester tool | 22:29 |
| notmyname | `walt --help` for usage | 22:29 |
| notmyname | bonnie -> http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/bonnie/ | 22:30 |
| alperkanat | and by this test what would the result indicate? | 22:30 |
| vishy | notmyname: walt | 22:30 |
| vishy | notmyname: nice :) | 22:30 |
| stevegjacobs | How do I make a snapshot of an instance and then turn it into an image? All I want is a preconfigured lamp server able to run a single web site. I don't want to have to go through the steps every time from barebones lucid or oneiric install | 22:31 |
| notmyname | bonnie tests a filesystem and can tell you if that level of stuff is slow | 22:31 |
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| notmyname | walt can test low-level swift components | 22:31 |
| vishy | stevegjacobs: nova image-create | 22:31 |
| vishy | to snapshot an image | 22:31 |
| vishy | or snapshot via the dashboard | 22:31 |
| alperkanat | ok will try that after the first barriers test -- do you think i can find out RAID settings from the settings that show up after BIOS? | 22:32 |
| stevegjacobs | vishy: I was trying snapshot via dashboard but it's throwing errors | 22:32 |
| vishy | stevegjacobs: :( | 22:32 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: honestly, I'm not sure. I haven't played with that stuff much | 22:32 |
| vishy | stevegjacobs: are you running stable/diablo? | 22:32 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: ok | 22:32 |
| stevegjacobs | stable diablo, on oneiric | 22:33 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: just updated each storage node (just in case it'd matter since there were kernel updates etc) and rebooted each.. trying bench | 22:33 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: without luck i guess :) | 22:33 |
| notmyname | same results? | 22:33 |
| stevegjacobs | I just got all set up earlier today so I'm probably still having teething problems | 22:33 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i haven't changed barrier settings yet | 22:34 |
| alperkanat | just wanted to try updates first | 22:34 |
| alperkanat | i only left proxy updates since it's critical | 22:34 |
| stevegjacobs | the error from dashboard looks like this: Unexpected error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. | 22:35 |
| notmyname | vishy: I think it started out as a way to test sqlite3 WAL files. therefore WAL Tester == walt | 22:35 |
| notmyname | although I'd love to find a backronym to make it refer to something from breaking bad :-) | 22:36 |
| stevegjacobs | vishy: At least it wasn't me that erred! | 22:36 |
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| vishy | stevegjacobs: hmm interesting | 22:36 |
| vishy | stevegjacobs: you're running kvm? | 22:36 |
| vishy | stevegjacobs: i'm pretty sure it works with devstack, so perhaps there is a setup error of some sort? | 22:37 |
| stevegjacobs | yes | 22:37 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3144/ | 22:38 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: will try barrier option now | 22:38 |
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| vishy | stevegjacobs: If you can start trolling dashboard and logs for an error it might help | 22:38 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: I'd think testing with walt would be a safer test first | 22:39 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: for what i read at redhat docs, removing nobarrier option seems to decrease performance more as it grants metadata persistance | 22:40 |
| stevegjacobs | hmm - I wonder if dashbooard config is not correct? | 22:40 |
| notmyname | that makes sense | 22:40 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: so i guess i won't do the barrier test since it's obvious that this option should increase performance in normal cases | 22:40 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: nobarrier should simply allow offloading of the durability requirements to the controller. | 22:40 |
| alperkanat | where fsync is highly used | 22:41 |
| notmyname | but durability is important | 22:41 |
| notmyname | and swift uses fsync a lot :-) | 22:41 |
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| alperkanat | so using barriers seems to increase durability while resulting a performance penalty | 22:42 |
| alperkanat | conclusion: nobarriers option is good when you have write cache (especially with battery-packed) (thanks for today's lesson :P) | 22:42 |
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| alperkanat | i'll pass on to walt and bonnie tests | 22:43 |
| notmyname | ya, trade durability for performance. I tend to stay on the side of durability. swift is supposed to reliably store data, after all :-) | 22:43 |
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| alperkanat | however docs suggest usage of nobarrier option :) | 22:44 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: although perhaps not in the docs (which we should fix if that's the case), we also recommend a battery-backed controller | 22:48 |
| alperkanat | do rackspace use nobarriers option? | 22:49 |
| alperkanat | i wonder if your speed results are like that even you have barriers | 22:49 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: yes, we use nobarriers. we also have battery-backed RAID controllers | 22:50 |
| alperkanat | ok | 22:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #887358 in openstack-manuals "Validate live migration procedure and update doc accordingly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887358 | 22:51 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3145/ -- what do you think about this? | 22:54 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: I'm hoping it's a permissions problem | 22:55 |
| notmyname | I've seen reports of people having issues with get-nodes, but I haven't been able to recreate it | 22:55 |
| notmyname | ah wait | 22:56 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: i'm affraid it's not.. there's no 07f dir: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3146/ | 22:56 |
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| notmyname | you are using the account ring to look up and object. that's not going to give you good results | 22:56 |
| notmyname | s/and/an/ | 22:56 |
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| alperkanat | i looked at the command syntax and therefore used it | 23:05 |
| alperkanat | should i use object ring? | 23:06 |
| alperkanat | still the same | 23:06 |
| stevegjacobs | vishy: figured out the problem - Dashboard looked good but the config is wrong. Haven't fixed it yet but you pointed me in the right direction | 23:09 |
| bwong | Hello, is anyone using kiall's install instructions to install/setup openstack? | 23:09 |
| Glacee | notmyname: you are using a RAID controller but without activating RAID?(using JBOD?) | 23:09 |
| notmyname | Glacee: correct | 23:09 |
| Glacee | ok same thing here.. thanks :) | 23:09 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/880852 | 23:11 |
| alperkanat | some people experience the same even they use 1.4.x | 23:12 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/867518 | 23:12 |
| notmyname | ya, that's what I was referring to | 23:12 |
| notmyname | I just got a call from my wife, and I need to go. | 23:13 |
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| alperkanat | ok thanks for your help.. maybe we can continue again later when you have free time | 23:13 |
| notmyname | ya, I'm not sure if i'll be on tonight. if not, I'll be here tomorrow | 23:13 |
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| alperkanat | ok thanks | 23:15 |
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| stevegjacobs | bwong: yes I am using Kiall's instructions | 23:17 |
| bwong | stevenjacobs: hey, how far did ya get? | 23:18 |
| stevegjacobs | right to the end pretty much. | 23:19 |
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| stevegjacobs | but struggling a bit with dashboard | 23:19 |
| bwong | alright | 23:19 |
| bwong | well, I followed the initial instructions | 23:19 |
| bwong | I installed everything | 23:19 |
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| bwong | but I have not ran the scripts yet | 23:19 |
| bwong | figuring out how to get those scripts | 23:19 |
| vidd | bwong, why not just git clone them? | 23:20 |
| bwong | im kinda new to ubuntu | 23:20 |
| vidd | bwong, "git clone git://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup.git" | 23:21 |
| bwong | alright | 23:21 |
| vidd | it will put them into a folder wherever you git clone them | 23:21 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs what issue you having with dashboard? | 23:22 |
| stevegjacobs | can't do snapshots | 23:22 |
| stevegjacobs | but I also took a look at the local_settings.py file created by the dashboard.sh script and it doesn't look right | 23:23 |
| stevegjacobs | should have set up a mysql connection I think, but it's still sqlite | 23:24 |
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| vidd | stevegjacobs did you specify a mysql database? | 23:26 |
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| bwong | vidd: Is settings a script? if so, is that what I run first before any other script? | 23:29 |
| vidd | bwong, im not the one to ask about that....i have not even looked that the scripts | 23:30 |
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| bwong | vidd: oh, alright. | 23:30 |
| vidd | have you read the README? | 23:30 |
| bwong | Yes, it is not detailed enough yet. | 23:31 |
| bwong | Think Kiall is still working on it. | 23:31 |
| vidd | its not detailed enough? | 23:32 |
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| vidd | edit your settings....thats rather straight forward.... | 23:32 |
| stevegjacobs | vidd: I didn't specify a mysql database, but the script looks like it's supposed to create one named dashboard - | 23:32 |
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| bwong | yeah working on it. | 23:33 |
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| vidd | stevegjacobs look in your local/ folder....where the settings are | 23:33 |
| stevegjacobs | injecting details from settings file - and there is an empty database named dashboard | 23:33 |
| vidd | bwong then run keystone...then test keystone...then glance, then nova, then dashboard | 23:34 |
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| vidd | stevegjacobs if there is a database in the local folder then it built an sqlite database.....do you have a mysql database for it? | 23:35 |
| vidd | with stuff in it? | 23:35 |
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| stevegjacobs | I am just reading the script - dashboard.sh | 23:36 |
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| stevegjacobs | it looks like it automatically creates a mysql database named dashboard with my credentials | 23:37 |
| stevegjacobs | from the settings file | 23:37 |
| vidd | i just looked at the settings file...i could never run these scripts..... | 23:37 |
| stevegjacobs | And there is a mysql database named dashboard | 23:37 |
| stevegjacobs | but it is empty | 23:37 |
| vidd | same same username and password for each database...is he nutts? | 23:38 |
| stevegjacobs | yeah maybe :-) | 23:38 |
| stevegjacobs | I was just trying to go with the flow- goal is to get working dashboard | 23:39 |
| stevegjacobs | everything else in the setup seems good at the moment | 23:39 |
| vidd | and who in thier right mind would do a deploy and not have a dedicated (and mirrored) database server accessable by FQDN? | 23:39 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs i dont like sqlite becase its not [as]portable [as mysql] | 23:40 |
| stevegjacobs | I'm new at this too | 23:41 |
| stevegjacobs | I don't want to use sqlite | 23:41 |
| vidd | oh...and i know how to work with mysql =] | 23:41 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs then fix your settings | 23:41 |
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| stevegjacobs | I just noticed that Kialls script for the dashboard created a bad local_settings.py file that doesn't reference mysql, even though it created a mysql database | 23:43 |
| stevegjacobs | I'll change this now | 23:43 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs http://dpaste.com/649053/ is the dashboard data for me | 23:43 |
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| stevegjacobs | vidd: thanks, that helps | 23:47 |
| vidd | stevegjacobs just edit and drop | 23:47 |
| vidd | and run the database sync again | 23:47 |
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| vidd | stevegjacobs if you get an error about needing MySQLdb, you need to "apt-get install libmysqlclient16-dev" | 23:49 |
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| vidd | is there a dashboard/horizon developer in the house? | 23:54 |
| vidd | there is a #FIXME i would like to propose a fix for | 23:55 |
| vidd | tested and fully functional | 23:55 |
| hugokuo | morning | 23:57 |
| vidd | no-one here from the dashboard team? | 23:58 |
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