Thursday, 2011-10-06

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herbsternotmyname: hello are you about matey?01:00
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hugokuodoes anyone have idea about adding keypairs via nova client ?01:16
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HugoKuo__HOW TO ADD KEY FROM NOVA03:30
HugoKuo__without euca2ools03:31
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baynaatest04:25
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toluenereply: test ok05:01
HugoKuo__ls05:10
HugoKuo__ping05:10
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HugoKuo__does nova client provide a function to add keypair ?05:11
tolueneHugoKuo__,  pong05:11
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HugoKuo__wasup05:23
HugoKuo__how's going toluene ....how's your progress05:24
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JaesangHi, Everyone05:56
JaesangHow to use nova client when using keystone?05:56
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HugoKuo__Jaesang , using python-novaclient >2.6.606:14
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JaesangHow can I know novaclient version?06:15
HugoKuo__Jaesan , example :  nova --username  <user>   --apikey  <password>   --projectid <>  --url <>   --region_name <>    --version <OSAPI_version>     list06:16
HugoKuo__dpkg -l python-novaclient06:16
Jaesangoh.. my novaclient is 2.6.406:17
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JaesangI'll try upgade version.06:17
HugoKuo__https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient     more details06:17
HugoKuo__Jaesang , do you know how to add-keypair with nova client before ?06:18
JaesangI added keypair use euca2ools06:18
HugoKuo__good . how did you setup keystone for euca2ools ?06:22
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JaesangBut I didn't add any endpoint for euca2ools(port8773)06:23
JaesangI added keypair use euca2ools before use keystone06:23
HugoKuo__ok06:24
HugoKuo__I try to add keypair from euca2ools .... but the key did not log into DB :<06:25
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Vadimhi all06:25
VadimHugoKuo ping06:26
HugoKuo__wasup06:26
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HugoKuo__damn , I can not specify keypair for a particulat instance06:26
Vadim<HugoKuo__> how are you? yesterday we spoke about metadata problem. do you have some free time?06:27
HugoKuo__tell me your problem ... I'll have a look06:28
Vadimhttp://pastie.org/264286706:29
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HugoKuo__Vadim , not easy .....many possibilities :<06:32
HugoKuo__how many host r u running for nova ?06:32
HugoKuo__ALL in one ?06:32
baynaawhen taking a snapshot, nova image-list -> hangs at "saving". "snapshots" table is empty.06:32
HugoKuo__how many nics do ya have on nova06:33
baynaais there anyone made snapshot running?06:33
Vadim<HugoKuo__> yes all in one... 2 nic. When i try wget http://169.254.169.254/index.html -> success06:34
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HugoKuo__ls06:40
HugoKuo__1. can you ping instance ?    2. does your dnsmasq correct ?   3. brctl show   ;  ip addr show  ; iptables-save   plz   ...06:41
Vadim<HugoKuo__> i can ping and can ssh.... http://pastie.org/264806606:45
HugoKuo__cool ....which network mdoe r u using ,   and which image r u running ?06:46
HugoKuo__try ...06:48
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HugoKuo__brctl addif br100 eth106:48
HugoKuo__thanks06:48
HugoKuo__I think the problem is over here :>   .........06:48
Vadim<HugoKuo__> why eth1 dont added automaticaly?06:51
HugoKuo__not sure .....something wrong .... I saw the flat_interface already been set in nova.conf ....06:52
HugoKuo__maybe you can check ur nova db .....the networks table for more details06:52
HugoKuo__myabe it's a bug or something06:53
Vadim<HugoKuo__> instance can ping 169.254.169.25406:54
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HugoKuo__so .....maybe the issue is different06:57
HugoKuo__bcz 500 is internal error06:57
HugoKuo__instead of 400 not found06:57
HugoKuo__what's the result of add eth1 to br10006:57
HugoKuo__Jaesang , Can I have your novarc file ?06:58
Vadim<HugoKuo__> i added without any restart... result wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error06:58
Vadimwget http://169.254.169.254/index.html -> success06:58
Vadimstrange error (((06:58
HugoKuo__alright , have a check on launchpad QA board might help06:59
HugoKuo__It's a usual problem as I know06:59
Vadimyes... on all answer need added iptables rule or wrong betwork configuration =)07:00
HugoKuo__no idea now :<07:02
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JaesangHugoKuo: oops sorry, I went to meeting07:33
Jaesangsee this. I made extra source file http://paste.openstack.org/show/2634/07:34
Vadimhow often doc about openstack updated?07:37
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HugoKuo__Jaesang , thanks ....but I need original one ....ec2 params inside07:40
Jaesangok07:41
Jaesanghttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2635/07:41
Jaesangsee above07:41
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HugoKuo__thx07:53
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RaziqueHi all08:14
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Raziqueany gerrit/ github users ?08:14
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HugoKuo__hwo to create keypair via API08:22
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siwoshi08:24
siwosgot this issue with diablo on compute08:24
siwosrabbitmq server is unstable08:24
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siwosit keeps crashing08:24
siwosanyone has similar issues?08:24
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BasTichelaarany nova experts already awake? :)09:32
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Vadimmaybe somebody can help with metadata problem?09:38
Vadimhttp://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=35609:38
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RaziqueVadim: so you can SSH to your instances, but they can't reach the metadata server ?09:40
Vadimyes09:40
Raziquethe server returns a 500 error09:41
Vadimyes09:41
Vadim(09:41
Raziquewhat nova-api.log shows ?09:41
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Vadim<Razique> http://pastie.org/264865009:44
RaziqueInstanceNotFound: Instance 42 could not be found.09:44
Raziquehow did you launched the instance ?09:45
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Vadim<Razique> euca-run-instance -k mykey -t m1.tiny ami-0000001009:46
Raziqueok09:46
Raziqueconnect to the mysql database, and run : use nova; select * from instances;09:47
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Vadim<Razique> as i remember somewhere in config id 4209:48
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Raziqueso add where id='42' :)09:49
Vadim=)09:49
Vadimhttp://pastie.org/264868209:54
Vadimput this to notepad )09:54
Razique(you can also add a \G; for better clarity, eg select * from instances where id=42\G; )09:55
Raziqueok so the instance is into the nova db...09:55
Raziquewhat nova-manage network list shows ?09:55
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Raziqueis the IP the good one ? (from the instance what ifconfig outputs ? )09:56
Vadimthx for \G key ))09:56
Vadimnova-manage network list -> one network 10.11.11.0/2409:57
Vadiminstance have 10.11.11.309:58
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VadimRazique sorry10:00
Vadiminstance have 10.11.11.3/2410:00
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Raziquewhat version of OS are you running ?10:03
Vadimwhy instance id 42? Ubuntu 11.04 natty10:06
Raziquewhat image repo do you use ?10:06
Raziquethe images have an ID that OS reffers to10:06
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Vadimhttp://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/10:07
sathiyahi all, i have identified a couple of simple bugs to fix - as am familiar with python... but dont know how to run & test the bug, can somebody help me ?10:07
sathiyai dont have a proper setup yet ! i spent sometime in ubuntu 10.04 - failed with some errors ...10:08
sathiyais there any public setup available ?10:08
Vadim<Razique> http://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/ttylinux-uec-amd64-11.2_2.6.35-15_1.tar.gz10:09
RaziqueVadim: I was more thinking about the OS repo10:10
viraptorsathiya: you should probably go through the proper setup then... otherwise, how can you reproduce the bug and confirm it is fixed?10:10
RaziqueGlance, localstore, swift ?10:10
Raziqueyour image is ok, since you are able to ssh to it10:10
BasTichelaaris anyone using openstack for a lot of parallel requests? like spawning 20 instances at once for example?10:11
Raziquethe issues comes from the nova-api I think10:11
Vadim<Razique> glance... i download wget http://c0179148.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/ubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz and he running with error10:11
sathiyaviraptor: yeah ! but is there any set up available for fixing & testing the bug ?10:11
RaziqueVadim: what glance index gives ?10:11
sathiyaviraptor: ok fine, if that is the case, i will continue to do the setup .. thanks.10:12
Vadimhe gives 2 images that i upload manual with glance command10:12
Vadim<Razique> instance that running success i upload with uec-publish-image command10:13
Raziqueok so so you have somes instances that are able to fetch metadatas while others don't ?10:15
Vadimno... all my instance cunt get metadata10:15
RaziqueVadim: ok, that's  what I tought, would you run a glance index10:19
Razique?10:19
Raziqueglance details sorry10:19
Raziqueneed to lunch10:21
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RaziqueI'll be back in 1 hour tops :)10:21
Vadimhttp://pastie.org/264868210:22
Vadimglance dont see all images...10:22
Vadimglance see only one but i have 310:22
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armaanhi  friends, i ma little confused. nova uses carrot to connect with RabbitMQ environment, while carrot is already discontinued in favor of Kombu framework ?11:05
armaan*am11:06
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armaanwhy cant we use pika instead of carrot?11:09
viraptorarmaan: diablo final has different implementations, one of them is kombu11:10
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Vadim<Razique> ping11:31
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siwosanyone knows if you can assign multiple roles to a single user in a project?11:31
siwosI mean - can one account be granted netadmin and sysadmin roles?11:31
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armaan@viraptor : thanks11:54
larissaarmaan: Error: "viraptor" is not a valid command.11:54
armaanviraptor:thanks11:54
armaanwhere can i find these new implementations. like that one using Kombu11:55
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armaani have one more question, why we are not using Pika ?11:56
armaanPika is something we need  that can better handle asynchronous messaging.11:59
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viraptorsiwos: yes, you can - nova-manage has role add/remove - they operate only on one specific role for the user, not all at once12:01
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siwosthanks viraptor12:01
siwoswell I finally managed to give a user 2 roles12:01
siwosnetadmin and sysadmin12:02
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viraptorarmaan: nova.rpc.impl_* - current default is kombu, but you can set it via rpc_backend flag12:02
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smoserhm... if sathiya returns, someone should point him at http://devstack.org/12:11
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joloughlinhi im having problems with private IP addresses not being assigned to instances12:13
joloughlinthis is on the diablo release12:13
joloughlinanybody seeing similar issues?12:13
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dxd828hello!12:14
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Raziqueback12:18
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joloughlinis  anybody having issues with private IP addresses not being assigned when starting instances?12:22
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tjoyjoloughlin: I experienced that once, on diablo-4, but i haven't tried the release. Are you sure you're using the most up-to-date recommended diablo code?12:29
tjoyi was told that it was a bug, and that it was patched12:29
tjoybut i didn't test anything other than finding out i had no dhcp12:30
joloughlintjoy: i'm fairly sure its the release12:31
joloughlinhas the problem gone away for you now?12:31
tjoyno, i put the project on hold12:32
tjoythat means i haven't done anything to try fixing it12:32
tjoyi'm just giving you the explanation that I received12:32
joloughlinok, thanks12:32
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Vadim<Razique> p12:54
Raziqueyup12:54
Raziqueso12:54
RaziqueWhere were we ,12:54
Vadimhttp://pastie.org/264868212:55
Vadimi have 3 images but glance see only one12:55
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Vadimi mean 3 ami images12:59
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Vadimimages that glance don't see i  uploaded with uec-publish-image13:02
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RaziqueVadim: actually, I've noticed something : when you upload images with glance, the meta-data fields are somehow not put in the right place13:13
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Raziqueconnec to you glance database, and make sur into the "image_properties" field, you have :13:14
Vadim<Razique> i dont think that when i uploade images with glance i  uploaded correct13:14
Vadimwhy i dont see images in glance when i upload with uec?13:15
RaziqueI use nova-mange image image-register IMAGE.img is_public="T"13:15
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Raziquethen I nee to update some infos into the database first13:15
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smoserVadim, i believe its just a bug in the ec2 api interface.13:15
willembHi.  Just saw on slashdot that openstack has been opensourced.  Peaked my interest.  How does it compare to something like proxmox?13:16
smoserVadim, it would be nice if you'd open a bug on that against nova https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+filebug13:16
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Vadim<Razique> can you give me correct example how you uploade image with nova-manage. With kernel?13:19
RaziqueSure :)13:20
Vadim<smoser> i am not sure that is a bug... maybe this is bug only in my installation13:20
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smoserVadim, i see it also. you're just saying that images registered with ec2-register (which uec-publish-tarball uses) have empty fields in 'nova image-list' , right?13:21
Vadim<smoser> in nova image-list i see with active status... but in glance index didnt see this images13:22
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smoserVadim, i'd have to poke more to see.13:23
RaziqueVadim: here http://pastie.org/264958213:24
RaziqueDon't use euca2ools for image registering13:24
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Raziqueit duplicates the images, and he's a bit messy in it's approach13:24
RaziqueI get rid of it for images management and everything goes much better13:24
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: when do you get this errors?13:25
tjoyrazique, thanks, I needed that13:25
joloughlinwhen i launch instances13:25
tjoyRazique: is that paste set to expire?13:25
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: like a lot at the same time? or just random?13:25
Raziqueactually the euca2ools uses the settings that you put into your novarc (eg S3 service)13:25
joloughlinrandom13:26
Raziquetjoy: I don't know13:26
joloughlinsome instances will get assigned some wont13:26
joloughlinthe ones that wont just stay in pending state13:26
willembDoes all this 'euaca*' type chatter I see mean that openstack is closely related to eucalyptus?13:26
Raziquelet's say you have a Glance repo, euca2ools will put the image to that repo, but also into /var/lib/nova/images/etc...13:26
joloughlintypically if i start say 20 instances less than half will get a private IP13:26
tjoywillemb: openstack uses the ec2 api, like eucalyptus, but as far as I know they don't share much code13:26
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: I have the same, but only when I fire up 20+ instances at once13:26
joloughlinas seen from euca-describe-insatnces13:26
Raziquewillemb: actually,  since openstack and eucalyptus exploit the same Amazon API13:27
joloughlinah, for me even if its 10 or so happens13:27
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: it has to do with the db connection pooling13:27
Raziquethis tools is able to exploit openstack in some parts, but it's deprecated I think13:27
willembtjoy: Is there somewhere I can get a video or (preferably) a nice overview document of how all of this fits together?13:27
Vadim<Razique> nova-manage image ramdisk_register CentOS-6.0-x86_64.img13:27
joloughlinhave you got a work around for ut?13:27
BasTichelaaryou can increase it a bit by increasing thread_cache_size in the my.cnf settings13:27
willembwe currently use proxmox with kvm for virtualization, but I am intruqued about options to scale it out13:27
tjoywillemb: i don't know one off hand, but this is the place to ask. check docs.openstack.org13:27
Vadim<Razique> need image_register?13:28
Raziquethe only thing it has that the native tool doesn't is the ability to launch an instance without assigning it a public ip13:28
RaziqueVadim: noope13:28
Raziquethe image is the last part since it depends on ramdisk and kernel13:28
joloughlinwhat value did you set yours too?13:28
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: no, but I know a lot of sqlalchemy code got reverted, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/83858113:28
RaziqueVadim: in order to get the ramdisk and kernel ID's launch a "$ glance index"13:29
joloughlinyeah I'm seeing that error message13:29
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: I did apply that patch, and things got a little bit better, but not reliable still13:29
RaziqueVadim: I myself don't use the whole ramdisk / kernel split13:29
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Vadim<Razique> ok thx you for help.... i try to test this13:29
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SSIlver2k2lo all13:30
RaziqueI create raw files with both embeded, eats more space ^^13:30
Raziquehey13:30
joloughlinBasTichelaar: Thanks for help13:30
RaziqueVadim: then if you look at the glance DB after the upload, you will notice that you need to update the fields a bit13:30
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Razique(change project_id and image_location fields into the image_properties table)13:31
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Raziqueand also if you want to add a name :)13:31
BasTichelaarjoloughlin: if you want to read more about it: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg04282.html13:31
gnu111in swift each storage node works a separate node in the ring? can someone explain that to me bit better. I have 8 nodes so does that mean I have 8 zones?13:31
Vadim<Razique> omg.. manual change this fields in DB?13:31
Vadim<Razique> or glance update?13:31
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Raziquehere is how my glance looks like : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2637/13:32
RaziqueVadim: yah, it's the same :)13:32
kbringardVadim: one word of warning, though13:32
kbringardif you use glance update13:32
Raziquebut pay attention that fields are erased if you don't overwrite the value13:32
kbringardyou need to do it as if you're doing it with no fields already in there13:32
Raziqueyah, hehe kbringard, that's why I use the DB directly13:33
Raziquehello btw dude :)13:33
kbringardyea, what Razique said: if you don't include a field that was already there, it'll change it to deleted = 1 and you'll need to go into the DB and change it back13:33
kbringardRazique: hello13:33
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Vadimthx guys. so many thing need to do for upload image (13:34
Raziquethat's why I don't use glance update at all, tooks less time to update the fields through the db ^^13:34
SSIlver2k2probably a very noob question, but, why would I use open compute over say something like xen?  (ive used rackspaces cloud before, and ec2, as well as running a bunch of hyper-v systems at work and esxi at home)13:34
RaziqueVadim: yah, but when you will get use to it, it'll go better13:34
kbringardSSIlver2k2: OpenStack orchestrates hypervisors like Xen13:34
tjoySSIlver2k2: nova is a management layer on top of whatever hypervisor you choose13:35
SSIlver2k2really...13:35
SSIlver2k2thats interesting13:35
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kbringardit's more akin to eucalyptus than to Xen13:36
Raziqueexactly13:36
SSIlver2k2aaahhhhhhhhh13:36
SSIlver2k2that makes a lot more sense now13:37
* Razique just succeed in the creation of a centOS 6.0 image o/13:38
kbringardyea, even a company as big as amazon uses Xen under their ec2 orchestration layers… it probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense to redo the hypervisor at this point13:38
SSIlver2k2right13:38
kbringarda bit off topic, but sad about Steve Jobs13:38
Raziquekbringard: any doc on the Amazon techs ?13:38
Vadim<SSIlver2k2> but at this moment nova can manage only 2 hypervisors. XEN and KVM http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix13:38
kbringardwhether you like the guy or not, he was a pretty amazing business genius13:39
SSIlver2k2it seems that hypervisors have become a pretty stable peice of technology atm.  might as well move onto other areas that need polishing13:39
Raziquekbringard: yup, I was confused this morning about him13:40
kbringardVadim: I think that's out of date13:40
kbringardI was on a plane home from Boston13:40
kbringardso I take off and everything is peachy, then when I turned on my phone after we landed I got like, 100 text messages and my twitter exploded13:40
kbringardhah13:40
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Raziquekbringard: harsh… I learned it when I arrived at work and checked my RSS fields13:41
Raziqueit's still very weird though13:41
kbringardyea, it wasn't unexpected, but it still seems surreal13:42
SSIlver2k2I wasn't expecting it so soon after the new product announcement13:42
willembdoes openstack play in the same general area as proxmox?13:42
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Raziquewhat he said few years back about how you should enjoy life and present things makes all it's sense now I guess13:42
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Raziquewillemb: not really13:42
kbringardwillemb: kind of, but not exactly13:43
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kbringardlol, I'm just going to be quiet, Razique's on a roll13:43
SSilver2k2im wondering how apple's stock is going to do today13:43
Raziqueproxmox is an orchestrator for KVM, while openstack is a cloud-platform, hypervisor-free13:43
Raziquekbringard: hehe :p13:44
willembRazique: would you mind elaborating on that (actually, I am surprized and happy that you even know what proxmox is)13:44
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Raziquewillemb: proxmox is a webinterface which is able to connect to libvirt/ kvm and manage your VM, plus add serveral nice functionalits (EG : scheduled backups, SAN attachments, alerting), it's for KVM/libvirt to what webalizer is for log files :p13:46
willemband openstack does not provide all of that and more?13:46
Raziqueopenstack in one another hand is a python-writtend cloud platform which supports more hypervisor, and a much more complete architecture13:46
Raziqueopenstack has mainly it's flexibility as a strengh, for instance, every component can be installed separately, all communication is made through HTTP13:47
willembso by hypervisor-free, you meant 'not tied to a specific virtualization technology" ?13:47
Raziquewillemb: exactly13:47
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Raziqueand you are able to easily create a complex virtualisation architecture that suits your needs13:48
kbringardRazique: gotta be careful saying all communication is made through HTTP… the components talk over AMPQ :-)13:48
Raziqueproxmox does system calls to libvirt commands mainly13:48
Raziquekbringard: yes, exactly, my bad13:49
kbringardno worries, just sayin'13:49
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willembso if i had a bunch of near-identical machines (their differences properly defined via puppet), I could boot a bunch of vm's from the same image, have them do a puppet run to install extra software and what-not, plus mount some shared storage, and bob's my uncle?13:49
RaziqueI was waiting someone to correct me in my soliloquy13:49
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Raziquewillemb: exactly13:50
Raziquepuppet or chef do that fine13:50
RaziqueI myself prefer Puppet13:50
willembI meant, I currently have near identical setups on real machines, and could use openstack to get to the second part of my description.  Sorry, not being very clear13:50
Razique:p13:50
Raziquewillemb: actually, your servers don't need to be identical13:51
kbringardwillemb: you can also define "user data" that does stuff when a machine boots, so like, if you want to have a vanilla image without the agents installed, you can have user-data install the agent and register it with the server13:51
tjoywillemb: you could create canned openstack images to your specification, and have them configured by puppet13:51
tjoyand run as many as you can stand13:51
Raziquethe only pre-requisite I would say is the server that will run the hypervisor tech. is able to do that13:51
Razique(eg. nova-compute)-13:51
kbringardas an aside, I personally find that having a small set of basic images which get configured after boot is the right way to go13:52
kbringardas opposed to creating a new iterative image after every change13:52
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Raziquekbringard: funny, I do the opposite, creating pre-configured images13:53
RaziqueBut i really should use a post-deployment solution, makes better sense13:53
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Raziqueanyone deals with Windows images ? I want to know how you manage the windows licences13:53
kbringardeh, to each their own13:53
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kbringardRazique: I don't, but I'd be curious to see what you come up with :-)13:53
kbringardbecause I've asked that same question myself many times13:54
RaziqueI'll try now to create a windows image, I think they have to be images that don't require an activation13:54
kbringardI'm not remotely a Windows admin, so I have no idea what tools are available, but the first thing I thought is that you'd need as site license13:54
Raziqueyup13:54
Raziquelet's try !13:55
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kbringardwhich could get pricey, given that you can spin up exponentially more "copies" of it13:55
kbringardsomeone sent me some instructions a long time ago about how they did it13:55
kbringardthey didn't deal with licensing, though, they just got Windows installed13:56
kbringardlemme see if I can find it13:56
willembSo, my images will live on a 'swift' instance, and be presented to my 'compute' machines via 'image service'13:56
Raziquekbringard: I think you need the MSDN licences13:56
Raziquewillemb: what do you mean ?13:56
willembThe missing component is 'where do i save the data that will be different on different machines?13:56
kbringardwillemb: yea, although you don't have to use swift, the image service (glance) supports a lot of different backend storage models13:57
kbringardto make it easy, I'd stick with the local filesystem to start with13:58
kbringardwhich I think is the default in the glance configs13:58
willemblike, if I have a standardized 'web server' image, where do people generally put their docroots?13:58
kbringardwillemb: you can do a few things13:58
kbringardsetup an NFS or other share outside of OpenStack13:59
kbringardthat their instances can access, then you have them mount it on boot13:59
kbringardor, there is a volume service13:59
kbringardwhich essentially carves out LUNs and iSCSI exports them13:59
kbringardto the instance13:59
kbringardit emulates ec2's EBS volumes13:59
willembunfortunately, I don't know what ec2's EBS volumes are14:00
kbringardand is exposed via the API, so your users can create volumes and attach/detach them at will14:00
kbringardwillemb: http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/14:00
kbringardbrb14:00
willembwhat tech do people generally reccommend to use underneath all this shared storage?14:00
Raziquewillemb: for that shared storage, I use an HP San14:01
Raziqueit works pretty well for my needs, bigger stuctures have biggers hardware14:02
willembit seems to be the missing component in all our virtualization drives... where to put the data unique to a machine.  You know, the customers docroots and mailboxes, databases, etc14:02
Razique(FC cluster for instance)14:02
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tjoywillemb: if you need persistant storage, use a volume14:04
willembtjoy: 'use a volume' ?14:05
willembcan I store volumes like I can store vm images?14:05
willembthat would be exiting14:05
tjoymore or less. do you use EBS on amazon?14:05
tjoyvolumes are like USB disks, you can attach them to any instance14:05
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willembtjoy: no.  We have mostly real machines, an a coulpe of qemu virtual machines hosted by ourselves on proxmox clusters14:06
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tjoyif i'm not mistaken, and I haven't used volumes yet, the volume storage is on one central machine and exported by iscsi to whichever instance14:06
tjoythey're persistant and they can move around14:06
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kbringardtjoy: that is mostly correct14:08
kbringardthe only caveat I'd give is that the controller itself (which does the exporting) is on one machine, but if I were using this in a production setting, I would employ some kind of redundant disk on the backend (like a SAN or something) and have that be accessible by the volume-controller14:08
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Raziquekbringard: that's what I do yah :)14:13
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RaziqueSAN ---ISCSI----> nova-volumes ----ISCSI----> instances14:13
willembThe object storage page says "software for creating redundant, scalable object storage using clusters of standardized server". So I should not take the 'standardized servers' part too serious?14:13
tjoyyup.14:13
tjoywillemb: so swift is like amazon s3, entirely removed from nova14:14
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willemb:-( I have been mostly ignoring how amazon s3 is put together, so is is unfortunate that people keep on likening things to it when they explain how works :-)14:15
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kbringardwillemb: amazon's services are probably the biggest player in this whole market so getting aws compatibility is important to switching people over14:19
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kbringardif you want to get into private clouds, it's useful to read about amazon's stuff14:19
RaziqueInteresting article http://openfoo.org/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture.html14:20
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Vadim<Razique> can you read pls private msg?14:23
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willembso, is it still reccommended to use something like an hp san as underlying technology for storing everything?  or is there a way I can leverage disks in machines?14:29
willemblike you can do with sheepdog14:31
kbringardswift will do that for you14:31
kbringardor there are other object storage technologies like ceph, riak14:31
willembexcellent.  no need for expensive sans if I already have a couple of hundred servers with 2 500GB disks in each14:32
doudehi, all. I get this error on nova-api.log on user login with keystone14:32
doudenova.api.openstack: None could not be found with token '999888777666'14:32
willembCan I use the same group of hosts for all three components?14:32
kbringardwho, based on their presence at the conference in Boston seem to be pushing to get their stuff to work with OpenStack14:32
kbringardwillemb: yea, you should be able to, but I have limited experience with swift, so I'm not 100% sure how well it plays on the same hosts with everything else14:33
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kbringarddoude: I think that's the default admin user token14:33
Raziquekbringard: how the keystone implementation is going for you ?14:33
kbringardalthough, I have not used keystone enough to know why you'd be getting that error14:33
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kbringardRazique: not had a chance to try it yet :-D14:33
kbringardso, I guess, great :-D14:33
doudekbringard: yes, it's the admin token but I try to log with admin account. It should works14:34
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doudekbringard: I get the same error another user with different token14:35
tjoywillemb: running swift on your compute nodes is probably impossible, and if not, a bad idea. it's suited to purpose-built storage clusters14:35
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willembok, so split my dc in 2.  One half will be compute nodes and one half swift nodes?14:36
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BasTichelaaris anyone able to run 25+ instances at once without getting sqlalchemy exceptions?14:40
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kbringarddoude: sorry, was afk, I dunno, I don't know very much about keystone so I'm probably not the best person to ask14:47
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Raziquehttp://www.cloudactu.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/infographie-symantec-CloudActu.png14:48
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doudekbringard: ok no pb14:58
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BasTichelaarnobody runniong 25+ instances at once?15:07
kbringardBasTichelaar: do you mean like, -n 2515:07
kbringardor do you mean you run euca-run-instances 25 times?15:08
BasTichelaarkbringard: yes, like -n 2515:08
kbringardI know the new Diasblo DB pooling model seems to be causing some problems15:08
kbringardand I've seen lazy load errors when describing instances15:08
BasTichelaarkbringard: yes, thats what Im experiencing15:08
kbringardI'd check the open bugs on launchpad and see if any of them describe what you're seeing15:09
kbringardotherwise, I'd file a new one15:09
BasTichelaarkbringard: I know they reverted the patch, but it still isnt very reliable15:09
kbringardI think we're targeting a backports release for the next week or 215:09
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andyandy__I am using diablo, I created an ubuntu image following the manual but when I publish it "uec-publish-image" I get the eeror message "failed to register vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-server.manifest.xml" and "failed to register vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-server" any suggestion? thank you15:17
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BasTichelaarkbringard: thanks :)15:21
doudeDo you use 'key' or 'file' option with novaclient CLI ?15:24
doudeI tested it, but nothing was inject to the instance rootfs15:24
adam_ghmm. does --quota_instances on the api server override what is set per-project in the quotas table in db?15:28
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shaonthat's fantastic!15:38
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Raziquekbringard: ok, I'm stuck on the "Windows cannot load viostor.sys"15:41
Raziquehehe15:41
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BasTichelaaradam_g: yes it does15:44
BasTichelaaradam_g: or wait, maybe it sets the defaults... yes defaults only15:44
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adam_gBasTichelaar: those are enforced per project or per user?  im having trouble allowing more than the default instances (10) after modifying both15:46
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BasTichelaaradam_g: look at the cap on the cores and memory15:54
joloughlinis anybody seeing problems with floating ips on the diablo release?15:55
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BasTichelaarjoloughlin: like?15:55
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joloughlinI cant assign a floating to an instance15:56
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joloughlinbtw, carrying on from before, the problem with private ip addresses starts when i try strating 10 or more instances at the same time15:57
BasTichelaaryes, same here15:57
joloughlinthe more I start the worse the problem, if i start say 50 then only about 30 or so get a private ip15:57
BasTichelaarjep, know the problem15:58
BasTichelaardid you test the proposed patch?15:58
joloughlinnot yet15:58
joloughlinam looking at the floating problem now as well15:58
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joloughlinwith that, if i set auto_assign_floating_ip then instance  remains pending and never starts15:59
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Raziquebye all! :)16:13
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koolhead17hi all18:21
VadimHhi18:22
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VadimH<koolhead17> when you upload image with uec tools18:27
VadimH<koolhead17> you see this image in glance index?18:28
koolhead17VadimH: no. i don`t use glance command at all. :D18:28
VadimH<koolhead17> we spoke with you yesterday and you say that you use glance for uploade image )18:30
koolhead17VadimH: i did and yes "glance index" command lists the uploaded images18:30
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koolhead17once i got euca-commads for upload image working i stopped using glance commands :D18:31
VadimHyou change something and euca working?18:32
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VadimH<koolhead17> ?18:50
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koolhead17VadimH: yes i added port num 9292 in nova.conf along with glace host18:53
VadimHoh18:53
VadimHand you use uec-publish-image?18:54
koolhead17yes18:54
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VadimH<koolhead17> can you execute euca-version19:25
koolhead17VadimH: am home currently and i dont have access to box. :( we can talk about it later :D19:26
VadimHoh )) i am at home to... but i cant sleep when i know that my opanstack doesnt work fine19:27
VadimH=)19:27
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koolhead17VadimH: its 1 am for me here :D19:29
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paulw__hello. I'm looking for directions for a single node install or install everything in a VM19:35
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annegentlepaulw__: Try the all-in-one script at http://devstack.org for Compute and the Storage all-in-one on http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html19:38
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paulw__thank you19:39
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VadimH<annegentle> oh hello nice to see you at channel =)19:52
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kbringardanyone here have experience with Crowbar?20:02
WormManI used one at my old house to pull up the floor20:08
VadimH=)20:09
VadimH<kbringard> what version nova you use?20:09
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VadimHi have 2012.1-dev (2012.1-LOCALBRANCH:LOCALREVISION)20:10
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VadimHmaybe all my problem because i use this version? 2011.3 more stable or no?20:10
VadimH=)20:10
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rmkVadim: yes, 2011.3 is the current stable (Diablo) release20:14
rmkkbringard: beyond seeing a demo and hearing positive things about it.. nothing specific20:16
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VadimH<rmk> how can i install stable release... in ubuntu package 2012.1-dev20:17
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kbringardVadimH: a few different ones, but mostly diablo and trunk20:19
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rmkVadimH: There are a few PPAs you can choose from (apt repos)20:21
rmkhttp://wiki.openstack.org/PPAs20:21
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rmkyou'd want ppa:openstack-release/2011.320:21
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VadimHi dont understand why i have in ubuntu packages 2012.1-dev20:23
VadimH=)20:23
rmkThose are snapshot packages of the current trunk, which is essex (the next release)20:23
rmkYou must have pointed to the trunk ppa20:23
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VadimHhow do you think must i install 2011.3? because i dont have strength to fight with 2012.1. issue with metadata, with uec tools.20:28
VadimHi wanna install true working stable version.. and when i learn how all work maybe i play with 2012.1 =)20:29
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terjehola- are the videos from the conf. in boston being posted on the site?22:48
catintheroofterje, good question ! :D22:48
WormManhmm, that would be cool, I'd love to mock my coworker :)22:49
catintheroofahhahaah22:49
terjeI'm guessing they're all out at happy hour now..22:49
WormManthere is threats afoot to send me to the next one... as long as it's not gonna be in boston22:50
kbringardWormMan: it's a good time, even if it is in boston22:51
kbringardon Monday night HP rented out an irish pub and handed us mugs when we walked in with instructions to "Fill this up as many times as you'd like"22:51
WormManit would take me 2 days to fly to boston, because I sure don't want to fly commericial :)22:52
WormMan(or spell)22:52
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kbringardanyway, I'm out22:52
kbringardhave a good one, guys22:52
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