Tuesday, 2011-09-27

Jaesangsecurity group didn't apply flat network mode?00:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860158 in nova "Release deb pkg for nova missing dependency on dbus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86015800:21
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hacimi'm doing a test swift setup, and I've just installed and configured the proxy node and added storage devices to a node, then I created a second node and did the swift-ring-builder commands. but when I do a rebalance I get a python traceback00:34
hacimi've been working off of http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/installing-and-configuring-the-proxy-node.html00:35
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notmynamehacim: so you only have 2 nodes in your ring? add a third, and the error should go away00:58
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hacimnotmyname: ok. its not clear to me if I am doing the swift-ring-builder command on the proxy for all storage on every node?01:04
notmynamehacim: you can build the ring(s) offline wherever you want. you end up with one file per ring, and you can distribute it to all of your servers however you see fit. the ring building process does not need access to the cluster01:05
hacimnotmyname: thanks! that clarifies a lot, i'm still trying to figure out if I should create multiple zones at this point or not, but I'll build up another node and see if that helps01:06
notmynameyes, you should01:06
notmynamehacim: you should have <number of replicas> as a bare minimum for your zone count01:07
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notmynamepreferably, you should have a couple more to support handoff nodes01:07
notmynameso, with the default of 3 replicas, start with 5 zones01:07
notmyname(and a zone could be only one server)01:08
notmyname(or only one storage volume, really)01:08
hacimnotmyname: i'm just trying to get a hang of things and test it out, so i'm trying to setup as few machines as possible01:09
notmynamehacim: have you looked at the all-in-one?01:09
hacimi have not, where can I find that?01:09
notmynamehttp://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html01:10
notmynamehacim: I have to warn you about the swift-all-in-one (SAIO), though01:10
notmynamehacim: it's kinda like unix man pages. it's perfectly clear when you already know everything that's going on01:10
hacimhehe01:11
notmynamehacim: the point of the SAIO is to have a dev environment that simulates a cluster. so it fudges some things to make it appear that you actually have 4 drives in 4 zones01:11
hacimyeah, i was thinking if I set it up manually then I would understand it better01:11
notmynamehacim: the fact that the saio fundges some stuff (like using loopback devices for storage volumes and running multiple copies of a service on one machine) does make it a little unlike a real cluster, and that could be confusing01:13
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notmynameunfortunately, since I've been living and breathing swift for 2 years, I can't really tell you where the confusing parts are01:13
hacimunderstood!01:13
notmynamebest to not be shy and hop in here and ask :-)01:13
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hacimok, i'll have some time to fire up another vm tomorrow and see what I can get, thanks again01:14
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* hacim sticks around here for the time being01:14
notmynamehacim: will you by any chance be at the openstack summit/conference next week?01:14
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hacimnotmyname: i just read about that - its in boston?01:16
notmynameyes01:16
hacimhm. i'm in nyc, its possible01:16
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notmynamethe summit (dev portion) is sold out and registration is closed, but the conference at the end of the week still has open seats, I think01:16
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hacimi have hardly installed it or wrapped my head around things still, so a summit/conference might be way over my head01:16
notmynameah. no worries. the bulk of the week will be devoted to deep dives into the code and designing new features01:17
atkisc\01:17
notmynamethe other important parts of the conference are on the business side of things for company collaboration01:18
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JaesangCan I use security group when using Flat Networkmanager?01:23
JaesangIn Flatnetworkmanager, When I launched an instance, every traffic being sent.01:24
JaesangIn manual, Default is every traffic discard.01:24
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livemoonhi, what is meaning of "routing_source" in nova.conf?01:40
baynaalivemoon: check here http://wiki.openstack.org/FlagsGrouping01:41
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livemoonbaynaa: thanks01:49
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livemoonHi, I use nova-manage network delete command, but the entries are still exist in table fixed_ips in mysql.02:48
livemoonDoes it need me to delete entries manually in mysql?02:49
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hacimnotmyname: well, i couldn't wait. i created another vm and added it, but I'm still getting the rebalance python traceback02:59
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hacimbut I might be confused because I only have one zone, but three machines. should I be putting those all into their own unique zone?03:00
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atkischi ,everybody03:09
atkisci running dashboard, error:03:09
atkiscUnable to get usage info: Invalid service catalog service: nova03:09
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livemoonatkisc: are you yz/03:21
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notmynamehacim: yes. all three in different zones03:40
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livemoonHi,does anyone meet this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/85597105:27
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winston-djaypipes : around?06:09
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RaziqueHi all Cloudies!06:57
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ohadlevyRazique: sorry, only mist today07:00
Raziquehehe07:00
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RaziqueFrom which country ? :)07:00
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mandela123hi07:02
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mandela123i am confused about the config file of glance in [filter:authtoken]07:03
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mandela123should it be [filter:tokenauth]07:03
mandela123because in the example directory of keystone07:03
mandela123the demo program of echo07:03
mandela123in keystone07:03
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mandela123the echo.ini config file07:04
mandela123it shows [filter:tokenauth]07:04
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mandela123does it matter ?07:04
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RaziqueHI, you are right, I've briefly looked at the doc, but according to the latest commits07:09
Raziqueit's filter:authtoken07:09
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mandela123you mean it does net matter whether it is authtoken or tokenauth07:23
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mandela123also, is keystone now must install with glance and swift proxy in the same machine?07:25
mandela123when service to be authed remotely, keystone use a password to varify the service07:27
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Raziquemandela123 : It does matter actually, you should use the right flag ; regarding the three components, they can be installed separately07:44
RaziqueDunno if you need Glance here if you plan to install swift :)07:45
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atkischi , everybody ?07:47
Raziquehey07:49
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livemoonHi, I got "ndb15: Receive control failed (result -32)" error when I start an instance in compute node.08:16
livemoonThen how to reslove it.08:17
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Raziquelivemoon: hi, I already seen that error, it's related as far as I recall to the DHCP server08:28
Raziquewhat nova-manage service list shows ?08:28
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Gerr1tmorning!08:50
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Gerr1tquick question, we are planning on implementing the openstack platform for our cloud based solution..08:51
Gerr1twe are looking into keystone for authentication, unfortunately there is not much documentation about it yet08:51
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Gerr1tthe reason we want to use Keystone is because we would like to have a centralized authentication server that does auth for swift, glance and nova..08:52
Gerr1tdoes anyone know a decent tutorial on how to implement it into all layers?08:52
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860377 in openstack-qa "nova.rpc.impl_carrot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86037709:12
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RaziqueGerr1t: here http://docs.openstack.org/incubation/identity-dev-guide/identity-dev-guide.pdf09:14
Gerr1tRazique: thanks a bunch!09:14
Raziqueyou welcome :)09:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860386 in openstack-qa "nova.virt.driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86038609:21
atkiscRazique:  diablo release  keystone and dashboard, good ?09:22
Raziqueatkisc: you asking me if I use these ?09:22
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Gerr1tRazique: we are also planning on doing 2 glance servers which will be loadbalanced and high available.. we are planning on using a mysql back-end, in that way we can master-master replicate the databases between the two glance nodes09:37
Gerr1tdo you know if that is possible?09:37
Gerr1tand what happens with nova when he his connection is switched to another server (because of a failover, or whatever :) )09:38
RaziqueGerr1t: here is what I would do09:39
Raziqueinstall two Glance server, and use mysql replication, also a repository replication09:39
Raziqueregarding the ip : keep alive + heartbeat09:39
Gerr1trepository replication?.. what exactly do you mean?..09:40
Raziqueso the two instances have a private IP, while keepalive will  dynamicaly assign the "public ip" (the one nova will connect to) to one of the two glance servers09:40
Raziquewell actually the  data is stored by default in /var/lib/glance/09:40
Gerr1tah , that is what you mean..09:40
Raziqueso you need to make sure that dir. is consitent09:40
Raziqueyou could share that repository also, but NFS perf are somehow bad09:41
Gerr1tin your example there is no loadbalancing, we are worried that active-passive setup will be a bottleneck when you have multiple nova nodes talking to the glance server..09:41
Raziqueso, maybe another way of sharing (if you want to share the repo)09:41
Raziqueyou could use haproxy then :)09:42
Raziquehaproxy does load-balancing based on algorithms you define09:42
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Gerr1t:).. LVS + Keepalive we are thinking about, because LVS does Tunneling, which means the loadbalancer does not handle returned connection..09:42
Raziqueso you can have two instances of glance, with two privates IP, the haproxy server handles the "public ip"09:42
Gerr1tyeah, that is what we were thinking about :).. I will make a note about the repository .. will look into it :)09:43
Raziqueyou could also yes, I found haproxy nice to administer, plus it has a nice status page09:43
Gerr1tthanks a bunch, again ;)09:43
Raziqueyou welcome :)09:43
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Raziquestill, pay attention that the bottleneck, instead of waiting it from nova to glance, doesn't appear between the several glance's instances themselves09:47
Raziquewaiting -> expecting*09:47
Raziquethat would make the cluster even more useless09:47
Gerr1tsorry I dont understand that sentence..09:47
Gerr1tyou dont expect that nova->glance is not a bottleneck09:48
Gerr1t?09:48
Raziquemm I thought you wanted avoid any performances issues when nova gets images, so you want to use several glance instances09:48
Gerr1tyes , that is exactly what I mean :)09:49
Raziqueok, so, suppose the Glance cluster will allows you to prevent any perf issues here, these issues could happen between the glance servers themselves if you plan to use a shared repository09:50
RaziqueSHARED-REPO <----- /// PERF ISSUES ----- > GLANCE 1/2/XXX09:51
Gerr1tahhh, ok, yes you are right.. you mean that the disk I/O would become a bottleneck when using the same repo09:51
Raziquecould be the I/O, the network, the protocol used :)09:51
Gerr1tthat's why we are using a multinode swift back-end with 2 proxy's, 3 zones with 2 8TB nodes..09:51
Raziquein fact any involved layer at that point has to be studied carefully, if you don't want to ruin your cluster perfs :)09:52
Raziquehehe seems great, how many instances are we talking about here ?09:52
Gerr1tyou are right :).. but that is something we will have to find out when we go live :)..09:52
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RaziqueI did for a customer a study, not related at all to nova, but here are the elements I found important to consider : VLAN cause an important overhead in perf ; Network configuration, and disks09:54
Gerr1tso basically its 4 nova machines running XEN VM's, connecting to Glance (2 nodes loadbalances) for their data, glance fetches en posts it on the swift cluster, which are 2 proxy's with 3 storage zones with 2 nodes of 2TB each..09:54
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Raziquewhat is the conf. for the nova-machines ?09:55
Gerr1tyeah,, im actually trying to convince my managers to use 10gig NIC's and several 10 GB switches to make sure that network connnectivity is not an issue :)09:55
Raziquefrom my (tiny) experience the network is never the first issue, I mean you  quickly see if it saturates09:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #860401 in openstack-qa "nova.compute.api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86040109:55
Raziquethe applications involved and extra features on some low-layers equipments are sometimes more responsible for perf. issues09:56
Gerr1tok09:57
Raziquefor the same customer, his perf issues were … the CPUs09:57
Razique:D09:57
Gerr1tah ;)09:57
Raziqueneither the virtualization, nor the firewall, and even less the network09:57
Raziquethat's why u need to be carefull09:58
Raziquelucy time :p09:58
Gerr1tactually, that is nother point of "finding out".. im having a hard time trying to sort out what kind of hardware to use for the different nodes, swift storage, swift proxy, glance (api+reg)..09:58
Raziquelunch09:58
RaziqueIntel CPUs :D09:58
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Raziquebe back in 30 mn s :)09:58
Gerr1t:D09:59
Gerr1tsame here09:59
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livemoonq10:15
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koolhead17how do we attach set of floating IP to a particular project?10:18
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hugokuokoolhead17 , hi10:21
hugokuoA techinical question about global system10:21
koolhead17hugokuo: i need answer of my question first10:22
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hugokuokoolhead17 , thinking10:31
hugokuonova-manage floating create ...... is there any new params for specify project ?10:33
hugokuoQuestion : does any one knows the work flow of nova-compute retrive a image from Swift ?    does Swift send data to nova-compute directly or through Galcne ?10:35
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860437 in openstack-qa "nova.compute.instance_types" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86043710:41
koolhead17hugokuo: ./10:44
hugokuokoolhead17 :  :/ as I know10:44
koolhead17hugokuo: ./00\.10:45
hugokuowhile you setup floating_ip pools , all project can see that :<10:45
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Gerr1thugokuo: glance builds the image for nova from fragments found throughout the swift cluster10:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #860445 in openstack-qa "nova.volume.api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86044510:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #860447 in openstack-qa "nova.volume.driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86044710:56
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hugokuoGerr1t  , so that means the data traffic must go through Glance ?10:59
Gerr1texactly, glance writes the data files in pre-set batches to swift..11:00
hugokuo!!!11:00
openstackhugokuo: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.11:00
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hugokuogerr1t , thanks ....11:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #860452 in openstack-qa "nova.volume.manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86045211:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #860453 in openstack-qa "nova.volume.volume_types" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86045311:01
hugokuoso the workflow is ......................nova-compute ----> Glance   ------>swift ----->image fragments ---->glance ----->nova-compute11:02
Gerr1tnova -> Glance -> Swift proxy -> Swift storage -> Swift proxy -> Glance -> Nova11:03
hugokuothanks it's more detail XD  , you r so kind11:03
Gerr1tno problem.11:03
hugokuooh , do you ever try twin swift proxy with Loadbalancer ?11:04
hugokuoI found that Pound could only handle 600 connections :<11:04
hugokuothat's weakness11:04
Gerr1tyeah, we are planning to use a loadbalancer for our 2 proxy servers..11:05
Gerr1tgonna use LVS-TUN and Keepalived for loadbalancing11:06
atkischi11:07
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atkiscmy dashboard error :11:07
atkiscUnable to get usage info: Invalid service catalog service: nova11:08
viraptoris there somewhere a complete list of configuration flags changes between diablo releases?11:08
atkiscFor example  ?11:09
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hugokuoGerr1t , thanks ..............11:10
Gerr1thugokuo: no problem11:10
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JaesangAnyone success deploy nova flatDHCP using Xen??11:14
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FabriceBHow can I terminate invalid instance ?11:16
FabriceBI have some instance with wrong network configuration11:16
FabriceB euca-terminate-instances fail with a python stack11:17
koolhead17FabriceB: please check the log. i think you might have missed some parameter11:17
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koolhead17valeriy2: hey11:18
valeriy2hey11:18
FabriceBteh configured network for this instance is destroy11:18
FabriceBso i'm getting some  TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable11:18
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koolhead17FabriceB: so the instance has nomore network associated with it? how will you communicate then11:19
FabriceBI want a force delete11:19
FabriceBthere are even not started11:19
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koolhead17FabriceB: /var/lib/instances see if somewhere like that you have instace ID11:20
koolhead17and other details remove it11:20
koolhead17i have no other idea about forced delete.11:21
koolhead17remove11:21
FabriceBthere are even not in /var/lib/nova/instances11:21
FabriceBthey are kept somewhere11:21
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860473 in nova "Documentation not consistent for the authentication options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86047311:43
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alexn65Hi all! Cannot figure where is the problem with internet connect from VMs. Could it be switch/router problem? Nat table has two rules for IN and OUT real_IP_to_Virt_IP if I allocate real address, but possibly it change nothing.11:53
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livemoonHi, VM cannot started on node but can on the controller11:54
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livemoonvm cannot be ping but not start it os. It stop the BIOS status.11:55
alexn65livemoon: what says /var/lib/nova/instances/_yourInstance/console.log? just try to look at it11:56
alexn65livemoon: on second node of course11:57
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livemoonnothing ,only one line about BOIS information12:00
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livemoonI think it cannot be get ip.12:01
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alexn65livemoon: than what errors in /var/log/nova-compute.log on second node?12:03
livemoonalexn65: Do you meet it?12:03
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livemoonno error12:10
livemoonalexn65: no error12:10
alexn65livemoon: not really, but know some cases. Than I don` t know your, sorry12:11
livemoonalexn65: in nova-network.log, there is ndb15 error, maybe just type12:11
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tangyaguang很多中国的啊12:12
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livemoontanyaguang: yes, chinese12:13
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alexn65livemoon: cases are - 1)not enough resources or arch on second node. 2) error while image downloading to node cache(check size in /var/lib/nova/instance/_baze or remove all in it); 3)kvm-pxe module needed; 4) network appears much later12:15
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alexn65livemoon: I mean not proper arch12:15
livemoonalexn65: thanks. I will reinstall node and test it again12:16
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alexn65livemoon: for nothing :) But if problem is in cache - it will probably remain cause these dirs will not be removed12:21
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livemoonalexn65:tomorrow I will try again and hope to get result12:29
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860516 in keystone "keystone nova integration steps in README need updating" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86051612:31
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livemoonuvirtbot: Hi, have you tested the dashboard?12:33
uvirtbotlivemoon: Error: "Hi," is not a valid command.12:33
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livemoonuvirtbot: :)12:37
uvirtbotlivemoon: Error: ":)" is not a valid command.12:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860520 in nova "image snapshots broken (disk config change causes glance plugin AttributeError)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86052012:42
AD\denmanHi, all. Has anyone had any luck getting RBD volumes working with nova-volumes? I can get the volume create, but when I attempt to attach the volume to the instance, I get an error that says: "libvirtError: cannot resolve symlink rbd/volume-00000001: No such file or directory" in the nova-compute logs12:42
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JaesangHi,12:46
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JaesangI launched an instance- (in flatdhcp mode)12:46
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JaesangBut dhcp server can't send IP address to instance12:47
JaesangWhat do I check ?12:49
viraptorhas anyone tried to recompile the github version into a package? my build is failing the authors check (dan@nicira.com missing)12:49
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alexn65Jaesang: check dnsmask processes on compute node and connectivity for network, mb --network_host on others compute nodes12:56
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atkischi, are you running dashboard ,everybody ?13:07
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livemoonatkisc:yz,have you used dashboard?13:16
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livemoonJaesang: maybe you meet the similar situation with me.13:17
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atkiscno13:18
livemoonatkisc: go on.13:19
atkisc?13:20
livemoonatkisc: ji xu ,jia you13:20
atkisc不搞了13:21
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Jaesanglivemoon: How can you fix that?13:21
atkisc问也没人解答13:21
jaypipeswinston-d: I'm around now...13:22
atkiscare you running dashboard ?13:22
alexn65livemoon: no, Jaesang has different, cause you even don`t get to stage when network interfaces upping13:22
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enmandArg13:23
* enmand kicks RBDDriver13:23
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livemoonJaesang: you can get ip?13:32
livemoonJaesang: can you get ip?13:33
Jaesanglivemoon: not yet13:33
livemoonatkisc: I can not get ip too.I only can ping it.13:34
livemoonalexn65: I can not get ip too.I only can ping it.13:34
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livemoonquit13:40
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truijllohi guys13:51
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truijlloI'm trying to have a working nova environment to study13:51
truijlloI've installed nova+glance , official diablo releases13:51
truijlloand all seem to work properly but....13:52
truijlloif I try to use keystone ( release https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/0425fba560e7d68e52f922667972765e64ad17dc  like suggested in last meeting )13:52
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truijllorunning nova-api I obtain ImportError: <module 'nova.api.ec2' from '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/api/ec2/__init__.pyc'> has no 'ToToken' attribute13:53
truijlloany suggestions ? :-/13:53
enmandtruijllo: I believe there is a nova-api.paste file with Keystone, did you copy that to the correct location (possibly /etc/nova)?13:53
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truijlloyes, I did13:54
enmandAnd completely restarted OpenStack?13:54
truijlloyes13:54
truijlloI use                                     for n in api compute network objectstore scheduler vncproxy direct-api  ; do sudo service openstack-nova-$n start; done13:55
truijlloand only API Server fails :-/13:55
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kbringardI personally like for i in $( ls /etc/init.d/nova-* | awk -F/ '{ print $NF }' ); do service $i restart; done13:59
atkisc.13:59
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FabriceBf or in (cd /etc/init.d && echo nova-*)14:01
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truijlloof course, this is only a bash matter14:05
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viraptorttx: do you have some pointer at the commit used to build the diablo final package?14:22
ttxviraptor: which project ?14:23
viraptorfor nova14:23
viraptorit seems like for example the tagged version doesn't pass the tests, because of .mailmap typo14:23
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ttxIt was built from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/milestone-proposed/revision/120114:24
viraptorI'm confused... how could it pass the tests correctly with issue in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/milestone-proposed/view/head:/.mailmap#L18 (missing <>) - when the ppa buildlog shows test_authors_up_to_date passing?14:25
viraptorahhh.... unless the ppa build environment didn't include .git - is that right?14:26
ttxviraptor: yes, it starts from the tarball14:26
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viraptorcool, thanks14:30
scalability-junkhey I just wanted to check if there are any resources on how to setup openstack in a small scale environment? or is this not possible? let's say to check out and run sort of production with 2 dedicated servers?14:30
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livemoonHi, Using FLATDHCP, br100 ip is 192.168.200.20, when I start nova-network, nova always sets br100 to 192.168.200.1. Why does it happen? Gateway?14:37
livemoonAnd I see "gateway" field in table "networks" in mysql seted 192.168.200.1. What's meaning of the gateway here14:38
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gnu111livemoon: did you set the br100 ip to 192.168.200.20 manually? nova-network acts as a gateway for the vms: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-dhcp-networking.html14:44
livemoongnu111:yes, I set br100 in /etc/network/interfaces14:46
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gnu111what is your --flat_interface in nova.conf?14:47
livemoongnu111: --flat_interface=eth014:48
kbringardyou'll also want to make sure that gateway is set properly in the networks table in the DB14:48
kbringardlike you mentioned above14:48
livemoonthen I manually set gateway in mysql.14:49
kbringardthat table gets populated when you do nova-manage network create14:49
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livemoonnova-network will set my br100 to the gateway which has been set in db14:51
kbringardyep, because nova-network acts as the default gateway for the defined networks14:52
livemoonwhich ip can I set ? host ip as gateway?14:53
kbringardwell, it's an internal IP14:53
kbringardit depends on how your network is setup14:53
kbringardbut, think of it like how you have a router on your internet at hme14:54
kbringardyou have your WAN IP and your LAN IP14:54
kbringardif you ifconfig on your laptop, the default gateway is going to be 10.0.0.1 or whatever14:54
kbringardwhich is an IP on the router14:54
kbringardit can be whatever you want it to be14:54
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kbringardso long as it's one hop away from the machine you want to use14:55
livemoonbut there are two same ip in my network.14:55
livemoonone is my route. the other is host br100.14:56
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kbringardright, so you need to change the br100 to be something else14:56
kbringardbecause all the VMs are going to use that as their default route14:57
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livemoonthanks, I will think it more14:58
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kbringardbe default it goes VM -> br100 -> eth0 -> internet14:58
kbringardof course, change out the interface names accordingly14:58
kbringardbetween br100 and eth0 is where the natting for the VM happens14:59
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kbringardwhich actually brings me to my thought… has anyone tried taking out the network controller entirely? and just using it as a DHCP orchestrator?14:59
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livemoonIn my network. I set vm the same network address with my host14:59
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livemoonmy br100(eth0) is 192.168.200.2015:00
livemoonand my vm ip range is 192.168.200.25-2915:01
kbringardso you probably want to update the gateway entry in the networks table to be .2015:01
livemoonNow I use 192.168.200.20 as gateway in db15:01
kbringardthen tear down the br100 stuff and restart nova-network15:01
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livemoonbut I have another node15:02
livemoonIt has nova-network itself15:02
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livemoonI see "mutil-host" in nova-manage network create command15:03
livemoonhow to use mutil-host15:04
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kbringardI don't know much about that, I've mostly used VLAN mode and only recently done basic FLatDHCP stuff15:04
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livemoonkbringard: thank you.15:04
kbringardvishy wrote this awhile back about HA network, perhaps it'll help: http://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/13-networking-in-nova15:04
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livemoonkbringard: 谢谢15:06
chmouelvishy: http://pastie.org/private/hepz165pavvmicpvruvqg15:06
atkiscvirshy:  dashboar + keystone ? success ?15:07
kbringardlivemoon: you're welome15:07
dolphmatkisc: vishy: was that a bug in keystone or dashboard?15:07
kbringardlivemoon: 不客氣15:07
kbringardis that right?15:08
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livemoonkbringard: cool15:08
livemoonatkisc: 先放下dashboard吧15:09
atkisc放不下了15:09
livemoonso many people are waiting for dashboard.15:11
livemoonDoes anyone know "mutil-host" in nova-manage network15:12
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Raziquehey kbringard :)15:14
livemoonoh, I know it via google. Good night all.15:15
kbringardhey Razique15:15
kbringardg'night livemoon15:15
Raziquegood night15:16
livemoonkbringard is a good guy.15:16
kbringardso if anyone is in the mood to wax intellectual about nova network stuff…15:16
Raziqueput me on track dude :)15:17
RaziqueI just arrived!15:17
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livemoonRazique :)15:17
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kbringardI was thinking about vishy's HA network thing, but in truth I don't know a ton about it (I've been lazy and not kept up on it's development)15:18
kbringardI was considering doing a hybrid HA, where I offload the routing and meta-data ip forwarding to upstream hardware15:18
kbringardthat's easy enough to do15:18
livemoonwhat about db?15:19
kbringardand basically leaves us with NAT and DHCP as the network controller's jobs15:20
livemoondb HA?15:20
kbringardlivemoon: I do M-M replication using Linux-HA for hot failover15:20
kbringardfor DB15:20
livemoonok15:20
kbringardso, as far as the network thing goes… I was thinking about ways to abstract that another layer and have the natting happen in a separate cluster of machines, instead of directly on the compute nodes15:21
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medberrylivemoon, vishy knows multi_host but then he created it.15:22
kbringardvishy knows most everything because he created most of it ;-)15:22
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livemoongrab vishy15:23
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bpaluchhmm I think I'm running into the same problem you are having livemoon15:24
livemoonbpaluch: which problem?15:24
chmouelvishy: http://pastie.org/private/5exr69jdogy39qktr9eg15:25
bpaluchI want VM traffic to traverse my network hardware in vlan mode15:25
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bpaluchI have a lot of servers that can't be VM's in this envo and I don't want to nat my vm's I just want them on a certain vlan15:25
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livemoonbpaluch: I use FLATDHCP not vlan15:25
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bpaluchoh maybe I just read half of what you were dealing with15:26
livemoonbpaluch: kbringard use vlan mode15:26
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livemoonmy test envirment is poor, no vlan switch. so I just use FLAT15:27
chmouelARGS=($@)15:27
chmouelecho ${ARGS[@]:1:2}15:27
bpaluchI think I may have configured my cisco switch wrong, I need to consult my cisco guru in my office, I've never trunked a switch to a server like this. I have a vlan which gateway is on my main router, then a switch that is trunked off that router, then ports on that switch connected to the second nic on my servers.15:28
livemoonchmouel is writing scripts15:29
bpaluchanyway, my vlan gw is 10.253.52.129, so i'm guessing my br100 has to be 10.253.52.130 on my host?15:29
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chmouellivemoon: yeah playing with bash array15:30
livemoonchmouel: good child15:30
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livemoonsleeping, see you tomorrow.15:31
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vishyjaypipes: magic https://gist.github.com/124538915:31
Raziqueyou can use clan, juste the with have to let pass tagged paquets15:31
livemoonbpaluch:if I test vlan, I will chat with you about the problem.15:32
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kbringardvishy: did you see my thought above… about using upstream routing hardware but then having an entire NAT service instead of a network controller on each compute node?15:32
vishykbringard no i didn't look15:33
livemoonvishy: Does mutil-host only have two value: T or F?15:33
jaypipesvishy: ewww. :)15:33
vishylivemoon: yes15:33
kbringardah, well, that's pretty much it… any thoughts on such a beast?15:33
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vishyjaypipes: parsing json without python is a little tough :)15:34
jaypipesvishy: that is an admirable hack indeed :)15:34
vishyjaypipes: i get errors about missing min_ram values when i try to use a current client with an old install btw15:34
vishyi assume that is expected15:35
jaypipesvishy: that is a bug.15:35
jaypipesvishy: :(15:35
livemoonkbringard: It seems simple and effective arch15:35
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kbringardlivemoon: yea, I'm just not entirely sure how to tell nova to offload the NAT functionality to this other set of machines15:40
livemoonbut I think it is not suitible for large envirement15:40
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livemoonGoodbye, learn from you all tomorrow.15:41
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kbringard'night15:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860666 in nova "Exception messages don't get displayed correctly in test suite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86066615:42
RaziqueWhy openstack uses Erlang ?15:42
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jaypipesRazique: it doesn't. RabbitMQ is written mostly in Erlang.15:47
Raziqueah ok, thanks :)15:47
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bpaluchvishy: can you explain the HW gateway section of exisint HA a little? what does pass the dhcpoption=3, ip of gateway mean? Do I pass that upon creating the instance or is that in a conf file somewhere?15:50
kbringardbpaluch: you'd put that in your dnsmasq.conf15:50
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kbringardso that when it hands out the DHCP lease to the VM, it tells the VM to use the ip specified in the option as it's default gateway15:51
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kbringardwhich would allow you to route out of a hardware router directly, rather than using the nova-network host as a software router15:51
bpaluchah ic15:51
kbringardbut, you have to setup some stuff manually on the router, that nova-network usually sets up15:52
kbringardlike, the ip forward to make 169.254.169.254 forward to the meta-data service15:53
bpaluchwill nova-network set up dhcp still?15:53
kbringardand you have to make sure the router can route for the network(s) the VMs are on15:53
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kbringardyea, in that scenario nova-network still does DHCP and NAT15:53
bpaluchyeah I already have my vlan's set up there anyway15:53
bpaluchI think this is the best solution, the projects I work on are network heavy, and I can't see a software switch being very scalable for them.15:54
kbringardnat being floating IP, since of course the router would have to do NAT for the VM network if it wasn't publicly routable IP space15:54
bpaluchbut I could set up nat on my router too then15:55
kbringardyea15:55
kbringardbut, for floating IPs15:55
bpaluchhmm thanks now I just have to read up on dnsmasq.conf15:55
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kbringardunless you modify nova-network to talk to your hardware router15:55
bpaluchis that something that quantum is supposed to do?15:56
bpaluchhmm I need to get my cisco reps in here.15:56
kbringardyea, assuming there is a cisco plugin for quantum :-D15:56
kbringardit would go like15:56
bpaluchI think they are one of the contributers ;)15:56
kbringardeuca-associate-address -> API server -> quantum -> cisco plugin -> NAT setup on the hardware15:56
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Raziquetime to go home15:59
Raziquecya stackers :)15:59
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gnu111what's the easiest way to upgrade from cactus to diablo in RHEL. I finally got a diablo setup working properly. But I also have a cactus setup with several users and few images loaded. If possible would like not to re-install that setup.16:09
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scalability-junkWould you advice against openstack for a 2 server configuration to start with?16:14
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kbringardscalability-junk: I don't think anyone in here would advise against openstack for any reason :-D16:15
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scalability-junkkbringard: yeah, but I tried to setup an openstack setup with 2 servers each server running all components, so you can have failover with the second server. and this setup was just too small back then. So I wanted to check, if openstack ist still only for the big players or if there is any way to make it work in small scales too?16:17
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kbringardit should work fine16:18
scalability-junkkbringard: not really against openstack, more advising against small scale16:18
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scalability-junkkbringard: any docs, about setting up openstack in a 2 server configuration, still enabling failover of all components?16:18
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kbringardscalability-junk: not really… although I think the network controller is really the only thing that needs coordination16:21
kbringardeverything else should just pull messages out of the queue and work autonomously16:21
kbringardhttp://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/13-networking-in-nova16:21
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kbringardthat article gives a good outline of vishy's ideas for network HA16:21
kbringardwhere you put a network controller on each compute node and it acts as the controller for all the VMs on that node16:22
kbringardthat's probably a good place to start16:22
kbringardas far as API, etc, I've setup multiple API servers behind a load balancer, done DB replication and failover, etc16:22
scalability-junkok I'll take a look at that. thanks16:23
scalability-junkkbringard: what about running openstack compute and storage on one server good idea or really bad one?16:24
kbringardit depends on what kind of load you're going to put on the system16:24
kbringardif this is a production system that you plan to sell to people16:24
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scalability-junkkbringard: more a private production setup16:28
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kbringard:shrug: it should be OK, but I mean, the more you spread it out, the less disruption a single hardware failure causes :-)16:29
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scalability-junkkbringard: Yeah I know. I would love to spread it out onto a few servers, but I'm a student, I love to play with such things and don't want to use as is IaaS. But the money isn't available to support more than 1 perhaps 2 servers ;)16:31
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tselYou can configure all nova components on one server with one Ethernet? would you specify it on the nova.conf as both flat_interface and public_interface?16:45
heckjtsel: yep, that works16:46
tselThanks.16:49
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bpaluchkbringard: if I put -dhcpoption=3,ipOfGateway in my dnsmasq.conf what would my bridge connection IP be?17:14
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kbringardhmm, thats a good question… I guess it wouldn't really matter so long as it was something in the VM subnet's broadcast domain so that it can send/receive DHCP requests17:17
kbringardand was connected to an interface that can route to whatever upstream hardware you're using17:18
rmkHas anyone created images which are self contained?  As in, do not separate the initrd and kernel?17:18
kbringardrmk: yep17:18
bpaluchis the dnsmasq service restarted by nova-network?17:18
rmkCool had a few questions if you don't mind17:18
kbringardI've used virt-install to install Cent images17:19
kbringardbpaluch: kind of… it'll start it, but it won't re-start it17:19
rmkkbringard: Nova is passing root=/dev/vda -- but that obviously implies there's no partitioning whatsoever on the image17:19
rmkSo how do you get a bootloader onto that?17:19
kbringardso you'll probably want to kilall dnsmasq (assuming the only dnsmaq processes were started by nova-network) then restart it17:19
bpaluchoh so if I change my dnsmasq conf file, then I have to restart it myself?17:19
bpaluchok, hmm hope that is why it didn't work.17:20
kbringardyea, I think HUPing it will work17:20
kbringardbut, I generally just killall dnsmasq, then restart nova-network to let it bring it back upo17:21
rmkkbringard: I've basically been taking a xenserver image and ultimately getting it to .raw, then extracting the root partition.  All well and good if I want to separate the kernel/initrd, but I really do not.17:21
kbringardrmk: well, it needs /boot17:21
rmkWhy?17:21
rmkIf grub is there it really does not.  The question is how to get grub on there.17:21
kbringardthat's how you get the kernel on the /dev/vda17:21
kbringardI've not converted an existing image17:21
kbringardI've only used virt-install to build a new image from a kickstart profile17:22
rmkok how do you typically layout the images?17:22
kbringardso I have not futzed with it at that level17:22
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kbringardI just create a single / partition17:22
kbringardon /dev/vda17:22
kbringardthen /boot /initrd, etc are all directly on /17:22
kbringardinstead of being being their own mount in the libvirt.xml17:22
rmkRight that makes sense17:23
kbringardbut again, this was all done automagically for me by virt-install17:23
rmkIsn't nova expecting /dev/vda to literally be the root filesystem?17:23
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rmkI guess my problem is there isn't enough room for grub because of the way I'm doing conversions.17:24
kbringardah, that could be17:25
kbringardyea, I think nova expects /dev/vda to be the root17:25
rmkWhich should be fine come to think of it, so long as I can get grub at the beginning of that.17:25
kbringardbut like you said, that's where grub should live, too17:25
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hacimok i've been following the guide for setting up swift, and I've gotten to this point: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/verify-swift-installation.html17:30
hacimthis seems to presume I have some swauth installed?17:31
vishybpaluch: you need to set it as an option for dnsmasq17:32
vishythere is a flag to use an additional conf file for dnsmasq, so you can put it in a file then pass17:32
vishy--dnsmasq_config_file17:32
vishy= whatever17:33
notmynamehacim: you are using swift 1.4.3?17:33
bpaluchis that for when I create an instance?17:33
vishybpaluch: ^^17:33
annegentlehacim: yes "You can run these commands from the proxy server if you have installed swauth there." it is an assumption17:33
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vishybpaluch: no it has to be set in your flagfile, and you'll have to killall dnsmasq and restart nova-network for it to take affect17:33
hacimnotmyname: I'm not yet, using the debian packages which are still 1.317:33
rmkYeah so grub wants a partition table but if I add one, then /root immediately becomes /dev/vda1, which nova won't like17:33
annegentlehowever you can still verify the installation using the steps, just the actual commands will vary17:33
bpaluchoh17:33
vishybpaluch: and you'll have to use some magic to get metadata to work17:34
notmynamehacim: ah. (then you are using the wrong package source)17:34
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bpaluchmagic on my router right? I just need to forward traffic from 169 address to my nova-api host right?17:34
bpaluchhmm this solution kind of doens't work when you have multiple vlans then does it.17:34
bpaluchbecause different vlan different route gateway17:34
hacimannegentle: ok, so its not an option. i understood from a previous step that it wasn't required17:35
rastemJust reading about openstack and the Swift object store. Is this technology bottlenecked by the proxy servers?17:35
notmynamerastem: no17:35
atkiscvishy:  openstack error : not get info17:35
notmynamehacim: swauth has been removed from the swift codebase and put into a separate project. you can keep using swauth, or you can use the included tempauth17:36
annegentlehacim: swauth is one of three options for auth with swift - swauth, tempauth, and keystone17:36
notmynamehacim: (in later code than you are running now)17:36
rastemnotmyname: so the proxy servers are peers?17:36
annegentlethanks notmyname17:36
notmynamehacim: swauth is prod-ready. tempauth is meant for POC and dev purposes17:36
notmynamerastem: yes17:36
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vishynotmyname: managed to get keystone working with a swift install.  I'm wondering about somehow combining it with swauth to get acls...17:37
enmandHey, has anyone had any luck getting rbd to work well with nova-volume? I seem to get an error everytime I try to attach a volume to an instance17:37
rastemnotmyname: ok ty17:37
notmynamevishy: I thought there was a grand plan by the architects to get ACLs ;-)17:37
vishyenmand: i know it was working at some point in history, but I'm not sure of the current state17:38
enmandHmm, OK17:38
vishynotmyname: ah yes.  That may even exist by 202017:38
enmandI can create the volumes, and delete them17:38
enmandBut I get "libvirtError: cannot resolve symlink rbd/volume-00000001: No such file or directory" when I try and attach it to an instance17:39
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kbringardbpaluch: yea, I don't know how well it'll work with VLANs… you'd have to setup your dnsmasq.conf to hand out a different gateway for each network17:39
hacimwell, I do have swauth-prep, etc. what I dont have is something listening on port 808017:39
kbringardwhich sounds painful17:39
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bpaluchkbringard: yeah hmm not the optimal solution, not even sure how I could have dnsmasq do that17:40
kbringardI think you can setup dnsmasq to hand out different stuff based on the subnet making the request, but either way17:41
kbringardhairy, to be sure17:41
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notmynamevishy: I'm sure it's possible. I'm looking at keystone (and the 2.0 spec in general) over the next few weeks to figure out how to integrate cloud files. I hope to be more informed about it by next week so I can give you a reasonable answer17:41
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bpaluchvishy: I have my vm getting the HW route address, do I need to do something special with the bridge connection on the host machine? I can't pass traffic to the gateway on the VM, but I can ssh to the vm through the host, but nowhere else.17:42
hacimhm, ok swift-proxy is running, and listening on 8080, but the swprep isn't returning anything when it starts17:43
notmynamehacim: anything in the proxy log? and swauth is in the proxy pipeline, right?17:44
notmynameswauth prep may not actually give any output. I don't remember17:44
hacimnotmyname: i'm looking around for a log, but so far haven't found one17:44
hacimnotmyname: it doesn't return, just sits there17:45
notmynamehacim: /var/log/syslog (unless you've changed your syslog configs)17:45
hacimi'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'in the proxy pipeline'17:45
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notmynamehacim: in the proxy-server.conf file there is a pipeline command. swauth should be there (along with a [filter:swauth] section below it)17:45
hacimnotmyname: so syslog shows it stopping and starting, but other than that, no output17:46
hacimah17:46
notmynamehacim: it?17:46
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hacimnotmyname: the swift-proxy-server... but you were right, I didn't have it in the pipeline, and now that I add it I get a python error "pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound:" - which is probably because I need to get it from git17:49
hacimbut, perhaps it is better if I wait until I get a newer version of software to play with so I run into less snags17:49
vishybpaluch: hmm, well you hve to make sure that it is bridged in to an interface that has access to that ip17:49
notmynamehacim: good idea :-)17:49
notmynamehacim: mtaylor can set you straight on where to get the updated packages17:50
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mtaylorhacim: what's up?17:50
hacimnotmyname: i'm using debian unstable, and the packager is working on getting the new ones uploaded17:50
hacimmtaylor: no need... i just realized I'm using older code and I should wait until zigo updates the packages in debian before I flounder around more :)17:51
bpaluchvishy, the bridge in interface has access, but the port on my cisco router is a trunked port, so its possible I did that wrong. I have switchport mode trunk , and switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q    on the port,17:51
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mtaylorhacim: well, in the mean time we do have packages at https://launchpad.net/~openstack-release/+archive/2011.3/ - although they are currently targetted at ubuntu17:51
bpaluchI actually can't ping the gateway from my host node...17:51
mtaylorhacim: adding debian packages to a repo we provide is on the todo list17:52
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vishybpaluch: can you ping the gateway from the host machine?17:53
bpaluchoh wait, I think my bridge interface has the wrong route, even though it has the correct network17:53
vishybpaluch: interesting17:53
hacimmtaylor: ok, thanks!17:53
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bpaluchhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2568/17:54
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rastemHi, another question: what's the reason containers can't be nested?17:54
bpaluch10.253.52.192 is the hosts network on eth017:54
bpaluchand eth1 is supposed to have the vlan network17:54
vishybpaluch: and what ip does the vm have?17:55
bpaluch10.253.52.13217:55
vishybpaluch: how is that going to work?17:55
bpaluchI have --vlan_interface=eth1 in my nova.conf17:55
rastemI have a need to map a directory structure from data coming out of machines, so need 'directories'17:56
vishybpaluch: are you using vlan mode?17:56
bpaluchvishy: my router is handling the VM's.17:56
bpaluchyeah vlan mode17:56
vishyok17:56
vishyi don't see any traffic on the vlan at all17:56
vishyso if you do brctl show17:57
hacimannegentle: if swauth is prod-ready, tempauth is for POC, what is keystone for?17:57
vishyit shows vnet0 bridged into vlan191?17:57
vishyhacim: integration17:57
bpaluchvishy: no17:57
bpaluchbr1008000.02163e5037a4novlan16117:57
vishybpaluch: no? where is it bridged?17:57
bpaluchoh wait17:58
bpaluchyes it is, I didn't see vnet0 listed there too17:58
vishy* i meant 16117:58
vishyok so vnet0 and vlan161 are bridged17:58
bpaluchhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2569/17:58
bpaluchyeah17:58
vishybut no traffic is showing on vlan16117:58
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gnu111what does this error mean: nova: Class Client could not be found17:59
vishyso your vlan is not set right17:59
vishygnu111: probably missing glance dependency17:59
vishybpaluch: try ip addr17:59
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gnu111it is in the compute node. Do I need to install glance?18:00
vishybpaluch: make sure vlan161 is on eth1 like it supposed to be18:00
vishygnu111: it needs glance client18:00
gnu111ok18:00
vishygnu111: python-glance should have it18:00
bpaluch10: vlan161@eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,M-DOWN> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN18:00
bpaluchoh its down18:00
bpaluchhmm18:00
vishyhehe18:00
bpaluchwt heck wonder why and when that happen18:01
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vishybpaluch: do you have port security turned on on your router?18:01
bpaluchno18:02
vishybpaluch: up it?18:02
vishybpaluch: it looks like eth1 might be down as well?18:02
bpaluchyeah it is testing to see if it work now18:02
bpaluchIts working!!18:03
bpaluchthanks!18:03
vishybpaluch: awesome18:04
vishybpaluch: you will still have issues with metadata forwarding18:04
vishywhich could be a bit hairy18:04
vishybut at least you have connectivity18:04
vishy:)18:04
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bpaluchI can figure out metadata forwarding on my router I think. I'll put a static route in18:05
bpaluchI just need to forward to my nova-api host right?18:05
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vishybpaluch: you can do that18:09
vishybpaluch: i think it will work if you are running nova-network on every host as well18:09
vishythe prerouting rule should kick in18:09
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vishybpaluch: the static route can work, but you have to make sure that traffic can get back into the vlans18:12
vishybpaluch: so you might have to do some tweaking to get it right18:12
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860779 in openstack-ci "launchpad bug update hook should handle bugs targeted to more than one project" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86077918:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860778 in keystone "missing dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86077818:23
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gnu111euca-terminate-instances does not disassociate the public ip address. is this a bug? or something wrong with my config here.18:29
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rastemquick question: proxy servers are the front-facing servers, and storage nodes are the ones that sit on a private network, right?19:13
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andyandy_I am trying to use the cloudpipe with this command "sudo nova-manage vpn run --user=admin --project=project" but I have an error in nova-network:(nova.rpc): TRACE: FixedIpNotFoundForNetwork: Fixed IP address (%(address)s) does not exist in network (%(network_uuid)s, do you have a suggestion?19:14
heckjrastem: yep, the proxy is what does the interaction. There's no "You must have the separated", but if you had a front and back network, that would be a logical separation.19:15
rastemheckj: ah, so you could in theory have proxy servers be storage nodes?19:15
heckjrastem: I believe it is possible to run the proxy processes on the storage nodes. Most larger installs have them separated, but I don't believe that's mandatory19:16
rastemheckj: ok cool ty for the help19:17
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heckjrastem: np19:17
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g2Hi,19:20
g2I am trying to create a network using "nova-manage network create private 10.10.1.0/24 1 256 --bridge=br100", but it fails with an error "Command failed, please check log for more info"19:21
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heckj--bridge is the wrong extension. I believe you want "--flat-interface"19:21
g2There is no information in the logs. Can someone give me pointers about what may be going on/19:21
g2heckj: You mean "nova-manage network create private 10.10.1.0/24 1 256 --flat-interface=br100"19:22
g2I get an error, no such option --flat-interface19:23
Vinsh_HP_19:23
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heckjg2: just a sec, looking up my install notes19:24
Vinsh_HPits an _ not a -19:24
Vinsh_HP--flat_interface19:24
g2VInsh_HP: I get the same error for --flat_interface also19:24
heckjg2: --flat_interface is the flag for the config file, and in my notes I have this as an install command line: "nova-manage network create private --fixed_range_v4=10.0.0.0/24 --num_networks=1 --network_size=256 --bridge=br100 --bridge_interface=eth0 --multi_host=T"19:25
heckjNote, I was using --multi-host in this too - you can ignore that.19:25
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bpaluchvishy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2572/ this is how you can have different gateways per subnet in dnsmasq.conf in case you you were curious19:26
g2heckj: It worked, many thanks!19:26
g2One more questions: The network that is created doesn't have any uuid. Why is that?19:27
g2I run "nova-manage network list" and all the networks have "None" as uuid19:27
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heckjg2: sorry, don't know - deeper than I can go on the code right now19:29
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g2heckj: Okay, thanks for your help.19:31
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rmkGetting this running everything under Virtualbox -- Error: internal error no supported architecture for os type 'hvm'  -- I've already specified libvirt-type=qemu, what else am I missing?19:39
PerlStalkerStrange. I can log into my dashboard as a regular user but not an admin user.19:40
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rmknm dumb mistake19:42
kbringardrmk, you should check out boxgrinder, too, if you're interested in RH based images19:42
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PerlStalkerI'm getting the error "Unexpected error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id'" when I try to log in as an admin.19:43
rmkkbringard: cool, will do -- thanks for the suggestion19:43
PerlStalkerBased on the log, it looks like the problem is with the tenant somewhere.19:43
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kbringardrmk: they even have an appliance image that you can load into OpenStack, launch and then use to build VMs :-D19:44
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DuncanT1Is anybody using the nova native api to manage volumes, rather than the euca API?19:51
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annegentleDuncanT1: volumes are in an extension to the compute api19:54
DuncanT1annegentle: Yes, unfortunately I can only get 'details' to work, no other functions19:54
annegentleDuncanT1: yeah I was gonna say, I couldn't get it all to work19:55
DuncanT1annegentle: Ok, thanks, that's one datapoint at least. I'll keep hacking for a while but I'm coming to the conclusion it isn't fully implemented yet19:57
annegentleDuncanT1: nor documented as a result :)19:57
annegentleno worky, no doccy19:57
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g2DuncanT1: I am using the OS volume api19:58
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DuncanT1g2: Can you provide any hints at all? All I can get working is 'detail'19:58
g2I have implemented the support of nova-volumes in novaclient. The change is pending the pull19:58
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DuncanT1g2: Is there a tree I could have a look at please?19:59
annegentlego g2 go19:59
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g2DunconT1: Here is the pull request20:00
g2https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/pull/121#issuecomment-218100420:00
g2Here is the public repo: https://github.com/gagupta/python-novaclient20:00
g2I am working on adding the CLI for volumes in novaclient next.20:01
DuncanT1g2: That is fantastic, thanks, I'll pull down a copy and see what happens20:01
heckjg2: Woot!20:01
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g2To use it just do the following:20:08
g2from novaclient.v1_1 import servers20:08
g2from novaclient.v1_1 import client20:08
g2cs = client.Client(NOVA_USERNAME, NOVA_API_KEY, NOVA_PROJECTID, NOVA_URL)20:08
g2vol_list = cs.volumes.list()20:08
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Raziqueback20:13
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smoserwonder if anyone can help20:15
smoserup to about 2 weeks ago, https://gist.github.com/1169889 would work on oneiric nova20:15
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smosersomething happened recently (close to milestone) and now, when you run an instance, you're cut off from the host20:16
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smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/698090/ is the last bits of 'tail -f /var/log/nova' before my all-in-one goes down.20:17
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negronjlhaving an issue trying to get keystone working on ubuntu/oneiric.  After installing the package, it's dependencies and config file ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/698105/ ), I keep getting the following error whenever I try to run "keystone-manage tenant add admin":  ERROR: (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None. Any ideas on this?20:23
DuncanT1g2: After a bit of messing, it works fantastically. Thanks!20:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #860872 in glance "s3 backend cannot stream remote images" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86087220:26
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860885 in keystone "(OperationalError) unable to open database file None None" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86088520:41
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gnu111smoser: are you using Diablo? maybe it is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/85958721:10
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* scalability-junk damn why is openstack so great, hate that :D21:23
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PerlStalkerIs there a simple howto for getting openstack installed on ubuntu?21:44
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scalability-junkPerlStalker: yeah21:45
scalability-junkstorage or compute?21:46
heckjPerlStalker: If you mean compute, I wrote one up for Diablo the other day: http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2011/09/23/installing-openstack-diablo-release-nova-and-glance/21:46
PerlStalkerscalability-junk: both eventually but compute for now.21:46
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magghello22:00
magghow do i know which version i have installed22:01
kbringarddid you install from packages or code?22:01
maggpackages22:01
kbringardyou should be able to dpkg -l | grep nova22:01
kbringardor, rpm -aq | grep nova22:01
kbringardif you're a RH kind of person22:01
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maggsays 2011.222:02
kbringardthat's Cactus, iirc22:02
maggdamn22:02
kbringardI need to head out, see y'all tomorrow22:02
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magghow do i install diablo then? in ubuntu from a ppa22:03
maggppa:nova-core/trunk?22:04
magghelp plz22:04
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maggtrunk or universe?22:09
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maggfor ubuntu 11.0422:10
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scalability-junkmagg: a sec22:10
scalability-junktry this:22:10
maggoks22:10
scalability-junksudo apt-get install python-software-properties22:10
scalability-junksudo add-apt-repository ppa:openstack-release/2011.322:10
scalability-junksudo apt-get update22:10
scalability-junkthat should actually update to diablo22:11
maggthanks let me try it22:11
scalability-junkmagg here are some additional information: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/migrating-from-cactus-to-diablo.html22:16
maggthanks22:16
scalability-junkno worries22:16
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scalability-junkjust a question on HA and failover. do I need replication for the cloudcontroller services or would it be fine to just backup the mysql database every few minutes and reinstall with a backup on failover?22:19
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retr0hscalability-junk: kbringard and I just setup rubyrepl http://www.rubyrep.org/ on our mysql masters and just use heartbeat with shared vip .. standard stuff22:23
scalability-junkretr0h: may i ask how your overall setup looks like and how much overall servers you got?22:24
rmkDoes anyone have issues with VMs coming back up after a reboot using qemu (not kvm)?22:24
rmkI have no problems with this on kvm.22:24
rmkI have the proper flag set to restart vms on reboot.22:25
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retr0hscalability-junk: right now 3 proto type sites with ~20 or so compute servers...22:25
retr0hwith another 3 sites coming up with few racks each22:26
scalability-junkcompute servers as node/physical servers?22:26
scalability-junk*as in22:26
retr0hscalability-junk: ya22:26
colecan someone fill me in on the openstack / ceph announcement that just happened? was it just announcing the .35 release of ceph/librados?22:27
scalability-junkmay I ask a second question: how do you use the 20 nodes for the 3 sites? small bits or just 7 server instances as huge vms for each site?22:28
retr0hscalability-junk: some are for storage (swift) some are for compute, network controller, api, etc..  nothing too fancy in the current env22:29
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scalability-junkretr0h: but further up the latter. you use openstack for pooling the resources and then create small vms for loadbalancing, ssl terminal, webserver and database servers?22:31
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scalability-junkare you using huge vm instances for those components or a more smaller ones?22:31
retr0hthe orchestration above the 3 is not handled by openstack...  thats glue that can be tackled any number of ways...22:31
retr0hthats something we are still working out22:33
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scalability-junkretr0h: yeah I was just curious. so you are using dedicated servers for database api server etc. and use mysql replication to replicated the preferences right?22:35
retr0hyah22:35
retr0hzactly22:35
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retr0heverything is in the database.. so long as that is sane.. restarting the nova* processes just restore from what was int he db22:36
retr0hpersonally i would rather we not use a standard database and use something more distributed like zookeeper but that gunna get everyone mad at me saying that ;P22:37
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WormManisn't that just a matter of getting sqlalchemy dealing with whatever you want to use?22:38
scalability-junkWormMan: but as far as I know sqlalchemy is sorf of just let you use postgre and mysl...22:40
scalability-junk*-is22:40
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vishyretr0h: not that insane.  We're discussing other opitions at the summit22:58
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