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| mattray | any good suggestions for how to send the logs from nova and swift to a centralized server for processing? The assumption is that syslog won't scale. | 02:24 |
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| notmyname | mattray: upload the logs to the swift cluster itself and download them on your central processing server | 02:26 |
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| mattray | notmyname: interesting idea | 02:26 |
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| notmyname | mattray: more detail: use syslog to rotate logs every hour and send the hourly files to the swift cluster | 02:27 |
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| mattray | yeah, I was just thinking about that | 02:27 |
| mattray | I'll bring that up with the customer, see how frequently they need the logs | 02:27 |
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| notmyname | mattray: that's essentially how we do all the log processing for cloud files (many GB/hour of compressed logs) | 02:27 |
| mattray | this will be similar scale ;) | 02:28 |
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| notmyname | mattray: although we are currently rewriting the actual processing piece, the basics, including many useful utilities (like swift-log-uploader), can be found in the slogging package (http://github.com/notmyname/slogging | 02:29 |
| notmyname | I would suggest that you can find _many_ improvements :-) | 02:29 |
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| mattray | thanks a ton, remind me to buy you a drink in Boston, you just saved some serious time | 02:30 |
| mattray | or conversely, if you're in Austin I'm around | 02:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #823676 in nova "python-nova installs /usr/share/pyshared/run_tests.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823676 | 02:32 |
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| notmyname | mattray: glad I could help :-) | 02:45 |
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| viveksnv | hi all | 06:25 |
| viveksnv | i am getting this error when using VLAN model - "CRITICAL nova [-] 'module' object has no attribute 'init_host' " | 06:25 |
| viveksnv | any thoughts ? | 06:26 |
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| dhanuxe | hello | 07:45 |
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| dhanuxe | anybody know ? i've got error below | 07:50 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# euca-allocate-address | 07:50 |
| dhanuxe | UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again. | 07:50 |
| CloudAche84 | can you run other euca commands? | 07:52 |
| CloudAche84 | eg euca-describe-instances | 07:52 |
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| dhanuxe | k, wait | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | sorry flooding | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# euca-allocate-address | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again. | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# euca-describe-instances | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | RESERVATIONr-4o0cclacmyprojectdefault | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | INSTANCEi-00000001ami-29266f8c10.0.0.310.0.0.3runningopenstack (myproject, c1)0m1.tiny2011-08-10T07:05:09Znova | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | RESERVATIONr-au9ituwgmyprojectdefault | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | INSTANCEi-00000002ami-08c917b310.0.0.410.0.0.4runningopenstack (myproject, c1)0m1.tiny2011-08-10T07:16:37Znova | 07:55 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# | 07:55 |
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| dhanuxe | any idea ? | 07:56 |
| CloudAche84 | are you running nova-network on the same server as you are issuing the command? | 07:57 |
| dhanuxe | yep.. | 07:59 |
| dhanuxe | i follow the instructions from here http://j.mp/nvnSEp | 07:59 |
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| CloudAche84 | what does nova-manage floating list show? | 08:02 |
| dhanuxe | here is http://pastebin.com/9YHj4LPr | 08:04 |
| CloudAche84 | run the command again and pastebin tail /var/log/nova/nova-network.log & nova-api.log | 08:07 |
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| dhanuxe | nothing error.. | 08:12 |
| dhanuxe | but when i run euca-describe-instances | 08:12 |
| dhanuxe | i've got error | 08:12 |
| dhanuxe | http://pastebin.com/UgVbn4UN | 08:12 |
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| dhanuxe | sorry | 08:13 |
| dhanuxe | i means | 08:13 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# euca-allocate-address | 08:13 |
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| CloudAche84 | ok | 08:17 |
| CloudAche84 | just looking | 08:17 |
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| siwos | euca-allocate-address <your_nova_api_hostname> | 08:19 |
| siwos | that's it - I ran into the same problem yesterday | 08:19 |
| CloudAche84 | ooh | 08:19 |
| CloudAche84 | that must be a bug then | 08:20 |
| siwos | no - not really | 08:20 |
| CloudAche84 | well it doesnt do that in my version | 08:20 |
| siwos | wait a minute | 08:20 |
| CloudAche84 | why would you need to tell it the api host? | 08:20 |
| CloudAche84 | api server set in nova.conf | 08:20 |
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| dhanuxe | no api hostname | 08:23 |
| CloudAche84 | ? | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# cat /etc/nova/nova.conf | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --daemonize=1 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --dhcpbridge_flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --dhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --logdir=/var/log/nova | 08:23 |
| siwos | so you do it like this (it worked for me - I had the same error as you) | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --state_path=/var/lib/nova | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --verbose | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --libvirt_type=qemu | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --sql_connection=mysql://root:nova@172.241.0.101/nova | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --s3_host=172.241.0.101 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --rabbit_host=172.241.0.101 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --ec2_host=172.241.0.101 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --ec2_url=http://172.241.0.101:8773/services/Cloud | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --fixed_range=10.0.0.0/8 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --network_size=64 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --num_networks=1 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --FAKE_subdomain=ec2 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --public_interface=eth0 | 08:23 |
| dhanuxe | --state_path=/var/lib/nova | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | --lock_path=/var/lock/nova | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# | 08:24 |
| siwos | nova-manage floating create <ip_of_nova_headnode_server> 192.168.21.2/31 | 08:24 |
| siwos | then | 08:24 |
| CloudAche84 | echo $NOVA_URL | 08:24 |
| CloudAche84 | what does that give you? | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# echo $NOVA_URL | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | http://172.241.0.101:8774/v1.0/ | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# | 08:24 |
| CloudAche84 | ah | 08:24 |
| CloudAche84 | ec22 url | 08:24 |
| dhanuxe | ? | 08:25 |
| siwos | euca-allocate-address 192.168.21.2 | 08:25 |
| CloudAche84 | This is the API: -ec2_url=http://172.241.0.101:8773/services/Cloud | 08:25 |
| siwos | and then euca-associate-address | 08:25 |
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| siwos | this cleared the UnknownError | 08:25 |
| CloudAche84 | he already has ip's created siwos | 08:25 |
| CloudAche84 | as shown in nova-manage floating list (he pasted earlier) | 08:25 |
| siwos | yes - but when you create them without giving the api server ip, then euca-associate-address fails | 08:26 |
| siwos | with UnknownError | 08:26 |
| siwos | so he should delete the address with nova-manage floating delete | 08:26 |
| siwos | and recreate it | 08:26 |
| CloudAche84 | ah ok | 08:26 |
| siwos | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/associating-public-ip.html | 08:26 |
| CloudAche84 | definitely worth a try | 08:26 |
| siwos | but he should give his api server address as the argument to nova-manage floating create | 08:27 |
| siwos | it's marked as "my-hostname" in the URL doc I pasted | 08:27 |
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| CloudAche84 | I created mine with hostname | 08:28 |
| siwos | I fought with the same error for 3 hours yesterday and finally found the answer somewhere in the Launchpad ;-) | 08:28 |
| dhanuxe | k, wait.. | 08:28 |
| siwos | the hostname should be the ip or hostname of your cluster headnode (the node where api, network controller and scheduler are running) | 08:28 |
| * dhanuxe afk | 08:28 | |
| CloudAche84 | so to be clear : | 08:29 |
| CloudAche84 | nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0/32 | 08:29 |
| CloudAche84 | nova manage floating create 172.241.0.101 172.241.0/32 | 08:29 |
| CloudAche84 | ecua-allocate-address | 08:30 |
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| siwos | yep | 08:30 |
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| CloudAche84 | dhanuxe: are you trying it? | 08:32 |
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| CloudAche84 | he gone.. | 08:35 |
| siwos | it probably worked... | 08:35 |
| siwos | ;-) | 08:35 |
| CloudAche84 | there's gratitude lol | 08:35 |
| CloudAche84 | did your hostname resolve to the api address when you tried it yesterday | 08:36 |
| CloudAche84 | ? | 08:36 |
| siwos | yes | 08:36 |
| siwos | it's not stated clearly int the doc | 08:37 |
| siwos | th doc should say clearly that "my hostname" is the hostname of cluster headnode | 08:37 |
| CloudAche84 | it looked like he had an all in one solution though so it would have been anyway | 08:38 |
| siwos | first when I read the doc I thought that it would be a hostname of a vm | 08:39 |
| CloudAche84 | in the sourcecode it looks like Vish is planning to add this functionality to the nova-manage command anyway rather than with euca- | 08:39 |
| CloudAche84 | so the behaviour may change | 08:39 |
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| dhanuxe | not yet | 08:46 |
| dhanuxe | wait | 08:46 |
| CloudAche84 | ah, welcome back | 08:46 |
| CloudAche84 | :P | 08:46 |
| alperkanat | hey there.. is it possible to directly stream from storage nodes but not the proxy? like requesting from proxy but getting response from the storage node and not through proxy server | 08:48 |
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| dhanuxe | what does mean range ? | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0/32 | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.0/32 | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.0/25 | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0/25 | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating list | 08:51 |
| dhanuxe | here is floating list | 08:52 |
| dhanuxe | http://pastebin.com/ZM8NHgNy | 08:52 |
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| siwos | try nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.0/24 | 08:57 |
| dhanuxe | failed | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.1/32 | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.2/32 | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.3/32 | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating list | head | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.4None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.5None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.6None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.7None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.8None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.9None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.10None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.11None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.12None | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | cloud1172.241.0.13None | 08:58 |
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| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.0/24 | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.0/32 | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | Command failed, please check log for more info | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# | 08:58 |
| dhanuxe | one by one ? lol | 08:58 |
| BuZZ-T | could you please use a pasting service like http://paste.openstack.org/ , it doesn't flood the channel and people who want to help can read the code better | 09:00 |
| dhanuxe | k, apologize.. | 09:00 |
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| CloudAche84 | :q | 09:12 |
| CloudAche84 | oops sorry :D | 09:12 |
| dhanuxe | nope.. still working.. | 09:13 |
| dhanuxe | delete one by one using bash xD | 09:13 |
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| CloudAche84 | use a for loop | 09:15 |
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| doude | Hi all, someone use last version of Glance with cache mechanism ? | 09:21 |
| CloudAche84 | dhanuxe:for i in {1..5};do echo nova-manage floating delete 172.241.0.$i ;done; | 09:22 |
| CloudAche84 | where 1..5 is the range of IPs | 09:22 |
| dhanuxe | i've done | 09:23 |
| dhanuxe | still failed | 09:23 |
| dhanuxe | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2136/ | 09:23 |
| doude | I update Glance with that version (rev 967), but I don't enable image cache: image_cache_enabled = False in the API config file | 09:23 |
| dhanuxe | nova-network.log http://pastebin.com/UgVbn4UN | 09:24 |
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| doude | But the cache directory even when contains cache files and takes lot of place on my disk | 09:25 |
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| dhanuxe | ahaaaa | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# nova-manage floating create c1 172.241.0/32 | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# euca-allocate-address | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | ADDRESS172.241.0.0 | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | root@c1:~# | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | opss | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | thanks guys CloudAche84 siwos | 09:26 |
| CloudAche84 | so hostname worked | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | yup | 09:26 |
| CloudAche84 | what did you put in the first time you ran it? | 09:26 |
| dhanuxe | just delete all ip list | 09:27 |
| dhanuxe | then create name network same as hostname | 09:28 |
| dhanuxe | just it | 09:28 |
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| dhanuxe | Ok, Part one has been finished. http://paste.openstack.org/show/2137/ thanks all.... | 09:40 |
| * dhanuxe bye.. slap mat_angin =) | 09:40 | |
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| lotrpy | hello, which ppa should I add, ppa:openstack-release/2011.2 or ppa:nova-core/release, I'm reading the deploy document and try install it on a single computer. | 09:48 |
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| doude | Hi all, someone use last version of Glance with cache mechanism ? | 09:51 |
| doude | I upgrade Glance with that version (rev 967), but I don't enable image cache: image_cache_enabled = False in the API config file. | 09:51 |
| doude | But the cache directory even when contains cache files and takes lot of place on my disk | 09:51 |
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| viraptor | did anyone have issues where the scheduling message seems stuck on rabbitmq for a couple of minutes, then gets forwarded as if nothing happened? no exceptions / errors - just a massive delay in "scheduling" stage? | 10:10 |
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| alekibango | libvirtd 0.9.4 is out. nice new features... | 10:42 |
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| doude | Hi all, someone use last version of Glance with cache mechanism ? | 12:14 |
| doude | I upgrade Glance with that version (rev 967), but I don't enable image cache: image_cache_enabled = False in the API config file. | 12:14 |
| doude | But the cache directory contains cache files and takes lot of place on my disk | 12:14 |
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| herman__ | hi | 13:38 |
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| yes456 | how shutdown instances in openstack | 13:48 |
| yes456 | so i can reinitiate | 13:49 |
| kbringard | how do you mean? | 13:49 |
| herman__ | im looking into openstack to build a private cloud. And i was wondering about the "recommended" place to store virtual server images (shared storage), i assume objectstorage is not suitable for it. | 13:51 |
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| kbringard | Glance is the preferred API interface for managing your images | 13:54 |
| kbringard | and most people use a Swift backend | 13:54 |
| kbringard | for storage | 13:54 |
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| kbringard | anymore the objectstore is just for ec2 compatability, if I'm correct | 13:54 |
| herman__ | also for "live" virtual server images, persistant | 13:55 |
| kbringard | live instances run on local disk of the compute node they're assigned to | 13:56 |
| kbringard | unless you're planning to support live migration | 13:56 |
| kbringard | in which case they have to be on some kind of shared storage | 13:56 |
| kbringard | like an NFS mount, external SAN/NAS, etc | 13:56 |
| herman__ | yes | 13:57 |
| herman__ | that would be awesome in case of node failure | 13:57 |
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| kbringard | well, if the node fails | 13:57 |
| kbringard | then your VMs are going to be boned | 13:57 |
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| kbringard | you'll likely have access to their disks to pull any critical info off of them | 13:58 |
| herman__ | yes but when the images are on shared storage they can easily be restored, while if on local they are totally gone till the node is back | 13:58 |
| kbringard | but live migration is more a maintenance thing, imo | 13:58 |
| kbringard | like, if you start to see disk errors or something, you can move them away before the node fails | 13:58 |
| kbringard | but yea, you're right | 13:58 |
| kbringard | you can relaunch them using the libvirt.xml | 13:58 |
| kbringard | however, I don't think openstack, at this time, supports bringing them back | 13:58 |
| kbringard | so you can virsh create them manually | 13:59 |
| kbringard | but it's not going to update openstack with their new location, etc | 13:59 |
| herman__ | hmmm ok | 13:59 |
| kbringard | in general, stuff running in cloud should be considered volatile | 13:59 |
| herman__ | i agree with that | 14:00 |
| kbringard | and applications should be built or refactored to expect failure at any time | 14:00 |
| kbringard | failure of N nodes, I mean | 14:00 |
| herman__ | but in practice many still use it as "a server" and expect it to be HA. | 14:01 |
| herman__ | And dont modify their apps | 14:01 |
| kbringard | of course | 14:01 |
| kbringard | devs are lazy;-) | 14:01 |
| kbringard | our philosophy is that we do everything we can to keep your VM up as it were a metal machine | 14:01 |
| herman__ | looks like Gluster has a "plugin" to provide shared storage for open stack | 14:02 |
| kbringard | but you have to do everything you can to make your application "cloud ready" | 14:02 |
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| herman__ | does openstack support live migration at all? | 14:03 |
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| kbringard | yep | 14:03 |
| kbringard | it's pretty "simple" actually | 14:04 |
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| kbringard | so long as your instances are on shared storage, it's more or less a matter of running a single command to move a VM to another compute node | 14:04 |
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| kbringard | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/live-migration-usage.html | 14:04 |
| kbringard | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 14:04 |
| kbringard | those 2 docs should get you most of the way there | 14:05 |
| herman__ | ye | 14:05 |
| herman__ | cool | 14:05 |
| kbringard | the second is written assuming you're exporting from one host to the others | 14:05 |
| herman__ | thanks | 14:05 |
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| kbringard | but if you're using a netapp or gluster or something, then obviously that's not the case | 14:05 |
| kbringard | just make sure all the compute nodes have read and write access to the exported mount, and it should pretty much work | 14:06 |
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| herman__ | im kinda looking into moosefs, but not sure how it performs yet. And wish i didnt have to roll out 2 storage types (objectstorage&shared filesystem). | 14:07 |
| herman__ | but i guess the latter is unavoidable :P | 14:07 |
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| kbringard | yea… I don't have a lot of experience with swift | 14:08 |
| kbringard | it's entirely possible you can use it for the instances, but I don't think so | 14:08 |
| kbringard | just given the nature of object storage vs block disk devices | 14:08 |
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| herman__ | afaik its just for putting and getting objects, not really changes within a file (which happens with server images) | 14:09 |
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| kbringard | right | 14:09 |
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| creiht | yeah, I wouldn't use swift for your block devices | 14:49 |
| creiht | It isn't designed for that | 14:49 |
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| vcaron | Hi ! I try to run VMware with Diablo-3 but the network driver nova.network.vmwareapi_net has gone. Can SO explained ? | 15:00 |
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| vcaron | Hi ! I try to run VMware with the VLAN manager in Diablo-3 but the network driver nova.network.vmwareapi_net has gone. ???? | 15:16 |
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| dilemma | I have a question about swift-log-stats-collector that I can't seem to find the answer to: do you only need one machine in your cluster with a cron that runs it? | 15:25 |
| dilemma | The documentation here is pretty vague on where it should run: http://swift.openstack.org/1.3/overview_stats.html | 15:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #824008 in nova "euca-describe-instances shows all instances in all states (even terminated)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824008 | 15:26 |
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| pvo | ttx: update: we're scheduled to start on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/admin-account-actions next week | 15:27 |
| ttx | pvo: that leaves very little time to complete it. Feature branches need to be merged by Aug 22. | 15:27 |
| ttx | pvo: which makes me a bit uncomfrtable, given that it's considered essential | 15:28 |
| ttx | so potentially, release-breaking. | 15:28 |
| ttx | pvo: feeling confident that you can deliver it all in a week ? | 15:28 |
| pvo | then we should downgrade it from essential. | 15:29 |
| pvo | it isn't holdup release worthy | 15:29 |
| pvo | anymore | 15:29 |
| pvo | this is for milestone 4, right? | 15:29 |
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| pvo | I think we should have it by diablo. I changed it to the integrated freeze to give us time | 15:30 |
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| viraptor | pvo: is the list of available actions already defined for that task? it looks interesting to me... | 15:34 |
| pvo | viraptor: let me update it with what we think it would be. Standby for a few. | 15:35 |
| viraptor | thanks | 15:35 |
| pvo | viraptor: a lot is already here: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaAdminAPI#A.2BAC8-accounts.2BAC8.7Baccount_id.7D.2BAC8-action | 15:36 |
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| notmyname | dilemma: yes. it is only set up to run on one machine currently. it can be configured to use all of your cores, though | 15:38 |
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| viraptor | pvo: thanks - it's not what I expected unfortunately - I though there will be a command to completely cleanup an account and all related bits in one go (would help me out with cleaning up after tests) | 15:41 |
| pvo | viraptor: that might be useful as well. If you can make a BP for it with details, we can take a look. Might be useful for us too. | 15:42 |
| dilemma | thanks notmyname. I'm having a rough time separating the stats system documentation out to a cluster, rather than SAIO | 15:42 |
| notmyname | dilemma: in what way? | 15:42 |
| dilemma | for example, it's not initially clear that you need to add a proxy-server.conf to your storage nodes for swift-log-uploader to work | 15:43 |
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| dilemma | found that answer here: https://answers.launchpad.net/swift/+question/162986 | 15:43 |
| notmyname | ah | 15:44 |
| dilemma | it's not initially clear how I should separate the info in log-processor.conf between proxies and nodes | 15:44 |
| dilemma | or if it should all stay there | 15:44 |
| dilemma | and if I need additional crons after separating | 15:44 |
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| dilemma | it's also not clear if I need to mess with rsyslog.conf on both proxies and nodes | 15:45 |
| notmyname | dilemma: FWIW, the stats/logging stuff is no longer in swift itself (it was moved to a separate project) and we are currently working on a replacement that is much better designed | 15:45 |
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| dilemma | yeah, but that's not here yet, and current deployments are going to use 1.3, with the existing stats system in place | 15:46 |
| dilemma | I mean, I'm sure the new system is great, and I'd love to switch to it in the future if there's a reliable upgrade path that doesn't interrupt an existing cluster | 15:48 |
| dilemma | but yeah, the 1.3 docs for stats are pretty tough to sort though | 15:48 |
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| notmyname | one of the reasons it was removed is to emphasize that it's not part of the core storage system and you probably need to do some customization for your own needs (similar to like swauth) | 15:52 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #824033 in nova "SQLAlchemy w/ MySQL doesn't play nice with eventlet" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824033 | 16:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #824034 in nova "Validate size of vhd files in OVF containers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824034 | 16:12 |
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| andyandy | Hi guys, when I run an instance, it still in "running state", it never boots, do you have any idea? thanks | 16:15 |
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| pvo | viraptor: when you mean "clean up account" what exactly do you mean? | 16:16 |
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| beenz | another try at LXC support: Anyone here got LXC instances' networking to come up? I'm running the latest natty diablo release from the trunk PPA with a natty UEC image. kvm instances come up just fine | 16:25 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #824043 in nova "Scheduler clogs up logging with too much noise" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824043 | 16:26 |
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| viraptor | pvo: basically same as suspend, but delete instead (could release floating ips too) | 16:27 |
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| pvo | viraptor: good idea. I'll see what I can do. | 16:28 |
| Harp | Hello everyone | 16:28 |
| pvo | Harp: hi | 16:29 |
| Harp | hello mate. Can I ask something? | 16:29 |
| pvo | ask away | 16:30 |
| Harp | I read the documentation about openstack, and find out pabout stackops. Also I found recommended requirements for nodes. for ex. | 16:30 |
| Harp | 1 x 64 bits x86 4GB of RAM 2 x 10GB of SAS/SATA/SSD – Raid 1 or higher 3 x 1Gb NIC or 2x10GboE NIC | 16:30 |
| Harp | for network node | 16:31 |
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| Harp | Ok, I have a supermicro server that has 6 avaliable slots for HDD | 16:31 |
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| Harp | can I populate those remaining two slotes with other HDD and use them in a cloud | 16:31 |
| Harp | sorry 4 slotes | 16:32 |
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| pvo | Harp: I can't see why not. I run most of the software on my laptop and the equilivent of a mac mini. The hw is entirely up to you and your needs. | 16:32 |
| Harp | So anything I add on the nodes can be used as resources for my needs? | 16:33 |
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| Harp | Can the same logic be used for additional RAM ? | 16:34 |
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| pvo | Harp: sure… depending on how you configure your hdds. | 16:37 |
| pvo | the ram will get taken into account by the schedulers. | 16:37 |
| pvo | * depending on the scheduler you use | 16:38 |
| pvo | and what you're using the nodes for. | 16:38 |
| pvo | if you using the extra ram on the api nodes, there isn't much to account for. if you use the ram on the compute node you can add additional instances as long as you have hdd allocate. | 16:38 |
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| Harp | Basically, what we want to accomplish is to host our own webaplications. And Im trying to understand how and what to implement. | 16:39 |
| Harp | And what we actually need. | 16:39 |
| Harp | lol | 16:40 |
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| Harp | pvo : can you elaborate what you mean when you said : sure… depending on how you configure your hdds. | 16:41 |
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| pvo | what hypervisor are you planning on using? | 16:42 |
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| pvo | we use xenserver, so our disk configurations would be different. | 16:42 |
| pvo | and we keep the instances in a storage repository. | 16:43 |
| pvo | if you have raid, are you using lvm? raid5, 6? 1? | 16:43 |
| pvo | it all depends on your tolerance. | 16:43 |
| Harp | I understand what you mean. Thank you very much for your help. | 16:44 |
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| kernelfreak | Does anybody had some experience build its own NAS using SATA disks ? | 16:53 |
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| mxmasster | hello | 18:53 |
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| mxmasster | i have a growing pool of static content (right now after pruning about 5 TB). I'm looking at options for object storage and swift is a large contender. With relation to serving static content directly to the net - or more specifically behind a varnish proxy is there anything that I should be aware of? | 18:56 |
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| notmyname | mxmasster: swift will work fine for that | 18:59 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #824126 in nova "OS API should accept availability_zone parameter in order to launch VM instance on specific host of specified zone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824126 | 19:01 |
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| Carter1 | would it be possible to run openstack on multiple clouds | 20:14 |
| Carter1 | for example, run openstack on aws and rackspace for the same site? | 20:15 |
| Carter1 | so their is redundancy if amazon goes down | 20:15 |
| kernelfreak | Does anybody had some experience build its own NAS using SATA disks ? | 20:15 |
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| YorikSar | Hello. Can anyone here help me with understanding the intended Gerrit workflow? | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | YorikSar: as I understand it, instead of doing a github pull request or pushing to the canonical repo, you push to a git remote location that you set up for gerrit. once approved in gerrit, it gets merged into the master trunk | 21:07 |
| YorikSar | Well, it's a start. But I'm more interested in what happens next. | 21:07 |
| notmyname | YorikSar: so make branch, code, commit, code, commit, squash, push to gerrit, gerrit moves it to master | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | YorikSar: inside of gerrit? | 21:08 |
| YorikSar | My case: I proposed a change, it was partially accepted (at last the part of the first commit was committed to upstream), and now I have no idea on how to clearly continue to work on my branch. | 21:09 |
| YorikSar | notmyname: More like inside my local git repo. | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | so if your commit is in master now, I'd assume you would start working from the tip of master again. take your existing changes and rebase them to master. when ready, resubmit them to gerrit | 21:10 |
| YorikSar | It would go well if only it didn't cause a mess in commits because of partial acceptance of the first one in the queue | 21:11 |
| notmyname | I'm a little unclear on how your patch was partially accepted. my understanding is that you have to squash all your commits into one changeset for review. how was only part of it approved? | 21:12 |
| YorikSar | mtaylor, jeblair, dolphm - are any of you anywhere near? | 21:12 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: whazzup? | 21:13 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: and yes, I ask the same question that notmyname just asked - what do you mean by partially accepted? can you give me a link to the review you're talking about? | 21:14 |
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| YorikSar | I had 5 commits ready in my branch, each one of them representing separate step to my goal. Actually, each one of them are a separate "feature" to be added to project. After some processes, the first one of them were divided into two steps and the first one of them were merged into upstream. | 21:15 |
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| YorikSar | the first "step", of cause | 21:15 |
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| YorikSar | There were change https://review.openstack.org/159 that was the accepted partially in change https://review.openstack.org/193 | 21:17 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: i wanted to talk to you about that review, but... | 21:19 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: AH - this was due to dolph reverting the change | 21:19 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: this is not a _normal_ thing - so we don't have a best-practice written up for it yet ... gimme a sec | 21:19 |
| YorikSar | As I can see, all my proposals are finally merged by dolphm, but I still can not figure out a easy way to collaborate when the minimum part for merging being a commit, not a branch. | 21:19 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: in general, for each change you want to make to keystone, create a new branch from your master, and upload a single commit to gerrit (this implies that you can commit all you want, but you should "squash" prior to uploading a review)... this avoids the unnecessary dependencies between otherwise independent changes - and makes gerrit a lot smoother | 21:20 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: I really tried to catch up to your changes in master this morning (MSK morning), but I fell into mess with merging and restoring all that changIds | 21:21 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: do you have new development that hasn't made it to gerrit? | 21:21 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: (side note - sorry for any headaches i caused, my goal was to get all your changes in as quickly as possible this week) | 21:22 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: and the only thing i have left is change the "from ldap import ..." to "import ldap" which seems to fail a bunch of tests, and i'm not sure why | 21:22 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: And thank you for that, I'm sure, I'd broke a lot of keyboards trying to do this. But I still don't understand how we could or should collaborate under this circumstances. | 21:23 |
| dolphm | lol, just mine :) but I learned quite a bit about git in the process, so it's all good! | 21:24 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: I believed that every step (commit) is independent, so that after each one of them Jenkins should check that everything is alright and reviewers should easily see that this bunch of changes is good. | 21:25 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: i totally agree with your philosophy, but gerrit looks at your chain of commits, and assumes that the reviews must be dependent on eachother as well... in this case, one of the first commits had unit test issues (the import ldap stuff) | 21:26 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: and it wasn't your fault that the tests failed necessarily - right after the "import ldap" stuff was merged the first time, we improved test coverage drastically | 21:27 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm, mtaylor: there was a statement by jeblair in mailing list that Gerrit should solve problems, not create ones... As I see, the problem is that it provides ability only to operate with all branch as one change... | 21:28 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: and it was the improved test coverage that found errors, so i had to revert the ldap stuff to get the expanded test coverage into trunk | 21:28 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: Oh, I see... I think, in such case the ldap stuff should first be fixed to match new tests, not reverted. | 21:29 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: well, the idea is just a codification of a git best practice about each commit that winds up in trunk being atomic and not a sequence of commits | 21:30 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: right, but it had already been merged and the review closed | 21:30 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: do you have the link to that article from last week? | 21:30 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: so i reverted the review, and then did a simpler commit with the simple_bind_s stuff you wrote | 21:30 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: ...and that caught me lost in the woods. | 21:31 |
| dolphm | :( | 21:31 |
| dolphm | how much work do you have that hasn't made it to gerrit? | 21:31 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: There definitely should be some common guidance for such case. | 21:31 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: Oh, if all my changes are marked as merged, all I have is thoughts that I hope will have easier way to upstream. | 21:32 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: it will usually be much easier than this | 21:33 |
| dolphm | mtaylor: YorikSar: ^^ this was truly an exceptional case | 21:33 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: do you need any help sorting out your local repo today? | 21:34 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: yes - sorry it caused you pain - in the future, we well be better at avoiding these cases in the first place | 21:34 |
| YorikSar | mtaylor: As I can remember, there were a good practice that implies that every merged made to master (or any release branch and so on) should be done non-fastforward so that actually each feature ends up as a single commit on master branch and all commits that brought us to that feature are kept in the topic branch (or in history about existance of the topic branch) | 21:35 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: not entirely... | 21:36 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: Unfortunately, my today is long finished, but as all my work is in master, I'll start my branch from master again and see whether anything is missed. | 21:37 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: the intent here is actually that we discard the commits that led us to the trunk commit and squash them in to a single commit that is the culmination of the work | 21:37 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: alright - if you can work out "import ldap" that'd be major improvement - i don't understand why it causes problems! | 21:37 |
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| mtaylor | but there is an article I'm looking for which explains it _MUCH_ better than me | 21:39 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: And one thing that I think worth discussing is how to present % operator for templates with one arguments. | 21:39 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: I saw that to conform PEP8 requrements and to shorten lines you converted the "%s" % (ss,) pieces into "%s" % ss. I may be a bit paranoid, but is it completely correct? | 21:40 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: ah, if it's not correct - i'd love to know! | 21:41 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: i only use tuples when there's more than one variable to plug in | 21:41 |
| YorikSar | mtaylor: http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ - that's where I got that idea. | 21:41 |
| dolphm | YorikSar: and as you pointed out, it was just an easy way to conform to line length | 21:41 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: see example 3.23 http://www.diveintopython.org/native_data_types/formatting_strings.html | 21:43 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: ah - that is not really the model we're using here ... | 21:44 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: read this: http://sandofsky.com/blog/git-workflow.html | 21:44 |
| YorikSar | dolphm: My point is to prevent any possible misbehaviour, e.g. if the only parameter is a tuple and we leave it alone after the %, we get trouble. | 21:45 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: the nvie related model as it relates to openstack is more about pulling releases off of trunk - not how work from devs gets in to trunk | 21:45 |
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| dolphm | YorikSar: can you email me an example? i'm headed out for the day | 21:45 |
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| YorikSar | dolphm: OK, I'll mail you in couple of minutes | 21:47 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: (but keep in mind, we diverge from his exact steps a little bit- he just has good explanation of why we're squashing before submitting) | 21:47 |
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| YorikSar | mtaylor: I hasn't finished reading yet, but as we can see on our case, our approach appeared to be not-so-good if one change is proposed and work on this topic branch is continued | 21:49 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: nope, that's still actually fine | 21:50 |
| mtaylor | YorikSar: and I do that all the time ... in _this_ case, we broke a few things | 21:50 |
| mtaylor | if you have work in a topic branch that is ready to go in (it is now a complete thought that works) then you can squash those commits down and submit them. at that point, make a new branch from that branch and continue your work in that new branch | 21:51 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: if you have to make code-review updates on your first branch, that's fine, because you have it there and you can ammend the commit and submit it again | 21:51 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: one your second set of changes that is ready to go in which includes the first changes is ready - you can rebase/squash them on top of master | 21:52 |
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| YorikSar | mtaylor: After that article, I think that the problem in my head is about commits should be written-in-stone, not disposable. | 21:59 |
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| YorikSar | mtaylor: And if someone else messes with my changes, there will be rebase/merge/whatever trouble in my private branches anyway | 22:00 |
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| YorikSar | mtaylor: About your last phrase - if I have branch mytopic1 that had a complete huge step on my topic that should be merged into upstream, should I both keep it and create other branch for one squashed commit? | 22:03 |
| YorikSar | mtaylor: So that I'll have access to all my private history and that golden squashed commit for review. | 22:04 |
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| YorikSar | mtaylor: One of the reasons for me not to squash commits was that two of them were common bugfixes, not a LDAP-specific features. Should I create a separate squashed commits for topic-specific and for common changes? | 22:22 |
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| mtaylor | YorikSar: I would say that in a perfect world you would want to make one submission to gerrit for each complete code thought... so a bugfix would want to be its own thing. that way, if someone is reading your patch, they can be sure they know what the patch does | 22:24 |
| mtaylor | of course, this is all within reason - and you'll develop a sense as to when you need a different branch and when you don't | 22:25 |
| * mtaylor has to run out for a bit ... I'll find you again when I get back and we can keep chatting | 22:25 | |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #824225 in nova "EC2 API get Metadata by instance type returns incorrect data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824225 | 23:27 |
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