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| RickB17 | If in a SWIFT cloud, I make a change to a ring; is their any automated process that is done to push the *.gz files to all other nodes or does this have to be a "manual" process? | 02:07 |
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| notmyname | RickB17: that process is up to you. there is nothing in the code to automate its deployment | 02:08 |
| notmyname | one simple way is to put it on one server and use wget on the other machines to fetch it | 02:09 |
| notmyname | rsync, of course, will work too | 02:09 |
| RickB17 | once the *.gz files are pushed out, is there anything that needs to be done to apply them? or is it refreshed every so often int he code? | 02:09 |
| notmyname | the code will notice the newer mtime and reload it as necessary | 02:09 |
| RickB17 | in my setup i had three zones setup in a aio. I added another storage node. removed a zone from the aio and added the storage node as it's own zone. how long does it take for the replica to be sync'd? | 02:11 |
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| notmyname | depends on how much data in in the cluster. you should be able to monitor it with the dispersion report | 02:12 |
| RickB17 | very small, 5gb of data at this point | 02:12 |
| notmyname | so I'll guess "not long" ;-) | 02:13 |
| RickB17 | i'm not familar with the 'dispersion report' | 02:13 |
| RickB17 | i'll look into that | 02:14 |
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| RickB17 | at this point i do need the disk filling up at all on the new node | 02:14 |
| notmyname | RickB17: http://swift.openstack.org/admin_guide.html?highlight=dispersion#cluster-health | 02:14 |
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| RickB17 | notmyname: thanks i'll do some reading | 02:23 |
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| fed007 | hey all | 02:27 |
| fed007 | whos want to answer the most redundant question? | 02:27 |
| toobulkeh | if i say me, then that would be a yes and your question will be answered, right? | 02:27 |
| fed007 | yeah I hope it's like some sort of fairyteal ending | 02:28 |
| fed007 | :) | 02:28 |
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| fed007 | its a routing access issue | 02:29 |
| fed007 | I set the FlatDCHP to serve up on the same subnet ans the host machine | 02:30 |
| fed007 | all 192.168.1.X | 02:30 |
| fed007 | instances launch ok | 02:30 |
| fed007 | can console in... | 02:30 |
| fed007 | they get an IP on the subnet different from the openstack IP | 02:31 |
| fed007 | for some reason | 02:31 |
| fed007 | what might be restricting the connection? | 02:32 |
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| HugoKuo | does anyone tried to add swap to a customize flavor ? | 03:30 |
| HugoKuo | is that work for ya ? | 03:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819152 in glance "ERROR [glance.api.v1.images] Error uploading image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819152 | 07:11 |
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| vodanh86 | does anyone have config network HA feature in newest milestone D3? pls give your config. | 08:35 |
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| _snyper | hi guys | 11:29 |
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| mandela | hi, | 12:14 |
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| mandela | i have installed dashboard for openstack | 12:17 |
| mandela | but when running a ubuntu server | 12:18 |
| mandela | i can not see the vnc butten in the web page | 12:18 |
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| mandela | any one can help me | 12:22 |
| mandela | how can i login to the server through the web with vnc | 12:22 |
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| nerens | plex | 12:40 |
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| nerens | whoops.. wrong window :) | 12:43 |
| huslage | hi | 12:44 |
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| mandela | is vnc console config wirte to the nova.conf | 13:28 |
| mandela | i config to use vnc console | 13:28 |
| mandela | in dashboard | 13:28 |
| mandela | but on port port 6080 is not listend by any process | 13:29 |
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| BK_man | run nova-vncproxy | 13:38 |
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| tudamp | hi all | 13:42 |
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| BK_man | tudamp: | 13:47 |
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| tudamp | hi BK_man | 13:48 |
| BK_man | tudamp: need help? | 13:49 |
| tudamp | just some question about keystone | 13:49 |
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| BK_man | tudamp: try to ask | 13:49 |
| tudamp | with the release of Diablo Keystone become the primary authentication mechanism? | 13:49 |
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| BK_man | tudamp: I think so | 13:49 |
| tudamp | then we will do an "official" release of keystone? | 13:50 |
| BK_man | tudamp: My understanding this should be done with Diablo. However, better ask ttx here | 13:51 |
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| tudamp | BK_man: ok, tnx | 13:52 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819303 in swift "Tests shouldn't rely on syslog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819303 | 13:57 |
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| tudamp | BK_man: we wondered if it made sense to prepare now for Keystone with diablo or... wait and continue to use the "old" systems | 13:58 |
| ttx | tudamp: Keystone will be an option in Diablo, and housl be the primary auth means by Essex | 13:58 |
| tudamp | ttx: a stable option? :) | 13:58 |
| tudamp | where stable == ready for production | 13:59 |
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| BK_man | ttx: hi. about glance and xattr dep. It's not versioned and pyxattr 0.5.0 is not enough. | 13:59 |
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| ttx | BK_man: sounds like a good bug to file against Glance | 13:59 |
| BK_man | ttx: could you please give me a favor and post list of files for python-xattr package in Ubuntu | 14:00 |
| BK_man | ttx: I need to be sure on this before posting any bug to LP | 14:00 |
| ttx | you mean, which files are shipped in the Ubuntu package of python-xattr ? | 14:00 |
| BK_man | ttx: yep. mine is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1987/ | 14:00 |
| ttx | http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/python-xattr/filelist | 14:01 |
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| ttx | BK_man: ^ | 14:02 |
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| BK_man | ttx: thanks! | 14:02 |
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| Deva | Hi .. good morning all. I am trying to use latest libvirt version.. do anyone know how to configure to use libvirt at specified path. | 14:49 |
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| Deva | Hi .. good morning all. I am trying to use latest libvirt version.. do anyone know how to configure to use libvirt at specified path. | 14:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819336 in glance "python-xattr dependency is not versioned in pip-requires" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819336 | 15:06 |
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| tudamp | Deva: have you installed the libvirt python bindings in a non standard path? | 15:11 |
| Deva | yes | 15:11 |
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| Deva | I have two versions of libvirt | 15:11 |
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| Deva | tudamp: any suggestions | 15:16 |
| tudamp | Deva: i'm not expert.. but i think you can install nova and the python binding in a virtenv | 15:18 |
| Deva | can you explain more about virtenv. or point me some links | 15:20 |
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| tudamp | Deva: i had a similar problem and i solved using virtualenv | 15:21 |
| tudamp | Deva: I had downloaded the tar.gz from launchpad | 15:22 |
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| tudamp | Deva: on tools there is a install_venv.py.. run it | 15:23 |
| Deva | how can I specify path of new libvirt/virsh in this | 15:24 |
| Deva | any idea..? | 15:24 |
| tudamp | Deva: you can learn more about venv http://www.virtualenv.org/en/latest/index.html | 15:24 |
| tudamp | Deva: aftear installing the venv you can use the venv path as destion of libvirt bindings | 15:25 |
| Deva | tudamp: thanks..:) | 15:25 |
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| tudamp | Deva: I think there is an easier way... but this is what I had to use :) | 15:28 |
| Deva | ok | 15:29 |
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| nhm | Anyone know of any good tutorials for building VM images from scratch? I'd like to get a Scientific Linux 6.1 image built. | 15:39 |
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| cstjohn | @nhm: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/146594 looks promising | 15:46 |
| larissa | cstjohn: Error: "nhm:" is not a valid command. | 15:46 |
| cstjohn | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/146594 looks promising, nhm - haven't tried it myself, though. | 15:46 |
| nhm | cstjohn: thanks much, will look it over. | 15:47 |
| tudamp | Deva: if you like things fast and dirty and you do not need the other version of libvirt, you can make a symbolic link | 15:48 |
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| tudamp | Deva: the files are libvirt.py and libvirtmod.so.. be sure that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set correctly | 15:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819397 in nova "migrations/resize go through full create process" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819397 | 16:26 |
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| nilsson | can someone tell my why nova-compute runs on a domU instead of the dom0 ? | 17:01 |
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| kbringard | nilsson: it can run on whatever | 17:06 |
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| nilsson | kbringard, but why does it say domU in the docs? | 17:08 |
| nilsson | > XenServer requires a nova-compute domU to run on the hypervisor in order to inject images into the VHDs. Nova-compute is the worker for the Hypervisor. It pulls jobs and applies them to the hypervisor it resides on. It's required to run on the hypervisor because it utilizes /sys/hypervisor. | 17:08 |
| nilsson | http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment#Getting_Started_Notes | 17:08 |
| kbringard | oh, I don't know about XenServer | 17:09 |
| kbringard | but, in general, if you're going to run it as production | 17:09 |
| kbringard | you want to distribute it out | 17:09 |
| nilsson | what do you mean? | 17:10 |
| kbringard | well, I guess I mean that… in my setup we refer to dom0 as the "controller" node | 17:10 |
| kbringard | then domU are all the compute nodes | 17:11 |
| kbringard | but I don't know about XenServer | 17:11 |
| kbringard | so feel free to ignore me for now :-D | 17:11 |
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| NashTrash | Hello Openstack'ers | 17:42 |
| NashTrash | Does anyone know the glance command to sync the DB schema? I just upgraded from D2 to D3. Thanks. | 17:42 |
| kbringard | NashTrash: glance-manage db_sync | 17:43 |
| NashTrash | Thank buddy. Is that documented somewhere? | 17:44 |
| kbringard | hmmmm, probably | 17:44 |
| kbringard | haha | 17:44 |
| NashTrash | So do you just remember that off the top of your head or do you keep it written down somewhere? | 17:44 |
| kbringard | in truth I'm not sure… I'm sure it is | 17:44 |
| kbringard | just remember it | 17:44 |
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| kbringard | I have a "trunk" environment that I update on an almost daily basis | 17:45 |
| kbringard | so I've gotten quite familiar with a lot of the commands | 17:45 |
| NashTrash | Ah. I am just on milestones so I forget and relearn everything once a month. | 17:46 |
| kbringard | hah, yea | 17:46 |
| NashTrash | I have added this little gem to my ongoing Cloud Deployment wiki. Thanks again. | 17:47 |
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| NashTrash | Do you happen to know if there are issues running nova-api and glance on D3 but all my nova-compute on D2? | 17:47 |
| NashTrash | One of our sys admins accidentally updated a portion of the cloud to D3. Oops. | 17:48 |
| kbringard | hmmmm, probably | 17:48 |
| kbringard | in truth I don't know… but I've always had weird errors when I try to run different revs | 17:48 |
| kbringard | in general I'd say it's good practice to keep them all in sync | 17:48 |
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| NashTrash | I assume I can upgrade nova-compute from D2 to D3 without disturbing running instances….correct? | 17:49 |
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| kbringard | generally yes | 17:49 |
| NashTrash | D1 to D3? | 17:49 |
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| NashTrash | We still have a few straggling nodes back on D1 | 17:49 |
| kbringard | the instances themselves should stay up… the thing that may get wonky is the network stuff | 17:49 |
| kbringard | since network will tear down and rebuild the firewall, natting, etc | 17:50 |
| kbringard | in theory it should work | 17:50 |
| NashTrash | Yeah. This should be a really fun afternoon. Everybody hang onto your butts. | 17:50 |
| kbringard | but don't kill me if it doesn't ;-) | 17:50 |
| NashTrash | :) Thanks again. | 17:50 |
| kbringard | no problem | 17:50 |
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| pdjan | swift question, when I issue command to list content in my containers "swift -A https://x.x.x.x:8080/auth/v1.0 -U system:root -K testpass list containername" ; sometimes i get proper list and sometimes i don't. (swift install on multi-node) Is this normal? | 17:51 |
| notmyname | pdjan: what's a "proper list"? | 17:52 |
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| notmyname | johnmark: of gluster? I sent you an email this morning about swift + gluster | 17:53 |
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| pdjan | +notmyname: proper list is the list I am supposed to see or copied files list but sometimes it doesn't provide any contents. http://paste.openstack.org/raw/1989/ | 17:54 |
| johnmark | notmyname: hey! yeah, I got it. happy to talk to you in more depth - or rather, get you in touch with someone who can talk to you in more depth | 17:54 |
| Guest17239 | hi | 17:54 |
| Guest17239 | can we integrate openstack with esxi hosts ? | 17:55 |
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| Guest17239 | I have followed this guide http://nova.openstack.org/vmwareapi_readme.html | 17:56 |
| notmyname | pdjan: (this may not be your underlying issue, but....) in certain error conditions, the cluster will be eventually consistent with listings. ie, it's possible to PUT (or DELETE) an object and not have the listing immediately updated | 17:56 |
| Guest17239 | but i am not able push a guest.. | 17:56 |
| notmyname | johnmark: looking forward to it | 17:56 |
| johnmark | notmyname: cool :) | 17:57 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: But I didn't delete any objects. In fact the content never changed since last fri. /var/log/syslog doesn't have any errors either. I don't see heavy utilization too. I am confused ; ^/ | 18:00 |
| notmyname | pdjan: you have all of the background consistency services running (auditors, replication, etc)? | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | spectorclan: oscon had a really good setup for speakers. I'd love to see some similar stuff at the design summit | 18:03 |
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| pdjan | Yep, that was it. Apologize...I thought they would start automatically with system restart | 18:07 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: Yep, that was it. Apologize...I thought they would start automatically with system restart | 18:08 |
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| viveksnv | hi, any one have experience with ESXi integration ? | 18:09 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: another swift question, is object content or data being replicated too? if not, can we do that ? bcoz I don't see my storage nodes getting filled up evenly. | 18:14 |
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| viveksnv | what is the exact requirement to integrate esxi with openstack ? | 18:25 |
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| conner | Hi folks. Is it possible to layer openstack on top of an existing libvirt infrastructure (eg, not disturb already running VMs) or does it need to take over completely? | 18:34 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: not sure I follow. all swift entities (account, container, objects) are replicated 3 times (default) throughout the system. it should be distributed pretty evenly, although there will always be some variance | 18:47 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: swift will distribute so that the object count on each storage node is roughly equal, but we don't distribute it based on object size. your particular use case may case more variation than other use cases (or less) | 18:47 |
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| pvo | conner: it might be possible, though it isn't really designed for this. | 18:48 |
| pvo | you'd have to import all the information about the instances into the db | 18:49 |
| pvo | which would likely be a pain | 18:49 |
| pdjan | notmyname: thanks a lot, that clarifies some of my doubts. so I would presume indifference in utilized size of my storage is due to /tmp folder. I am checking each object, container and accounts folders and they all seem the same size | 18:49 |
| conner | pvo, I figured as much | 18:49 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: am i correct to assume rsync and corresponding service (for ex: object replicator) is making sure this content is synchronized? In other words if something is not synchrnoized I need to look rsync logs and check if the service is running | 18:50 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: yes. the object replicator uses rsync to copy the data between machines | 18:51 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: thx for answering. how reliable is replication. lets say in my use case scenario if I have servers in one zone in the US and the other servers in 2nd zone in UK, will the data read/write will always be synchroized? do you have any customer who is doing this? | 18:54 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: if you get it working like this, let us know :-). all of our testing is based on zones in the same DC. I suspect that latency will be an issue and you may have to tune some timeout values. there is no reason why it /shouldn't/ work, but I don't know that anyone has done it like that before | 18:56 |
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| RickB17 | notmyname: what is the best pratice way to have data in multple dc's? | 18:59 |
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| notmyname | RickB17: I don't know | 19:00 |
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| RickB17 | does rackspace have all of their zones local to one dc? | 19:00 |
| notmyname | RickB17: one way (simple, guaranteed to work, but expensive) is to have 2 clusters that sync the data | 19:01 |
| notmyname | RickB17: yes, each cluster is in a single DC (but we have multiple clusters). the zones are in different parts of the DC as separated as our DC constraints can make them. for example, you could deploy into different rooms in a DC with separate power, A/C, switches, etc | 19:02 |
| RickB17 | notmyname: do you have recommend reading for working with cluster replication. I don't recall running past any. | 19:02 |
| RickB17 | notmyname: do the storage nods replicate, or is it through the proxy nodes? | 19:03 |
| pdjan | notmyname: I would need it too if you have it handy (do you have recommend reading for working with cluster replication) | 19:03 |
| notmyname | RickB17: http://swift.openstack.org/overview_replication.html?highlight=replication | 19:04 |
| RickB17 | thanks | 19:04 |
| notmyname | pdjan: ^ | 19:04 |
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| pdjan | thanks | 19:04 |
| RickB17 | i have see that before, but i jsut assumed it was internal to the cluster | 19:05 |
| notmyname | RickB17: it is. ah, you are looking for cluster-to-cluster replication | 19:06 |
| RickB17 | yes | 19:06 |
| notmyname | RickB17: the only thing we have so far is http://swift.openstack.org/overview_container_sync.html. This would be a great area for new development | 19:07 |
| RickB17 | thanks | 19:07 |
| RickB17 | I will try to understand and see if i can help out | 19:08 |
| RickB17 | i'm only a novice pythong scripter | 19:08 |
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| pdjan | notmyname: thanks a lot, i would imagine object and account db sync's would be the same too. Did you mean development is needed in this area or under progress? | 19:14 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: actually, the container sync feature syncs the objects within a container. then, the processes internal to the target cluster ensure that the container and account associated with the sync are updated properly | 19:17 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: there is no dev work currently in progress to enhance or expand multi-cluster communication | 19:18 |
| pdjan | notmyname: ok, so does it mean this is all i need to setup cluster-to-cluster replication | 19:18 |
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| notmyname | pdjan: if you want to keep some containers in sync, yes | 19:19 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819477 in nova "In FlatNetwork mode you can't have multiple networks per bridge" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819477 | 19:21 |
| npmapn | Is there some alternative to the vagrant recipe for getting a single node cloud? I'd like to have this to learn about using nova for now and do some code hacking later. | 19:21 |
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| pdjan | question is for my use case scenario, i have application accessing swift cloud in cluster1 in the US to be mirrored/replicated with cluster2 in UK. So, if I setup container-to-container replication I should be good is that right? | 19:23 |
| notmyname | pdjan: yes. realize that you have to set up each container to sync, but once you do that, it should work for you | 19:24 |
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| NashTrash | I have a gluster + nova-compute question. I am setting a gluster volume as the /var/lib/nova/instances directory but it fails to mount on startup despite me putting it into fstab | 19:29 |
| NashTrash | It does mount on startup if I chown /var/lib/nova/instances to nova:root, but as soon as the drive mounts it has some crazy owner like ajaxterm | 19:30 |
| NashTrash | Any thoughts? | 19:30 |
| pdjan | notmyname: Thanks. is this supported by rackspace api? In other words if we have cluster1 in rackspace and some other vendor in UK for cluster2, do you see any consequences? | 19:32 |
| pdjan | notmyname: sorry...***do you see any consequences or do you recommend any changes? | 19:34 |
| notmyname | pdjan: container sync is not turned on with Cloud Files | 19:34 |
| notmyname | pdjan: container sync is set up (for security reasons) to only allow sync requests from approved hosts. it would require rackspace and the other vendor to partner to accept container sync requests | 19:35 |
| nhm | nashtrash: don't have an answer for you, but I take it you are playing with the new gluster staff? | 19:36 |
| nhm | s/staff/stuff? | 19:36 |
| pdjan | notmyname: ahh...makes sense. I guess rackspace are open for these type of requests | 19:36 |
| NashTrash | nhm:Yeah. Trying to set it up as the instances directory for all compute nodes | 19:37 |
| notmyname | pdjan: as in, would we enter in to a business arrangement with some other company to allow container syncs? that's way above my pay grade | 19:37 |
| pdjan | notmyname: : ) understood | 19:38 |
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| nhm | NashTrash: eventually I want to do that too. | 19:38 |
| NashTrash | nhm: I will hopefully have it working here shortly. | 19:39 |
| nhm | NashTrash: excellent. | 19:43 |
| nhm | NashTrash: I'm working right now on building some images from scratch. | 19:44 |
| NashTrash | nhm: Cool. Let us know how it goes. | 19:46 |
| kbringard | nhm: check out boxgrinder and vm-builder | 19:46 |
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| nhm | kbringard: will do. I'm trying to build a scientific linux 6.1 image now. | 19:47 |
| kbringard | since that's kind of RH based, you may be able to do it in boxgrinder | 19:47 |
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| kbringard | or, you could build it in virtualbox | 19:48 |
| kbringard | in theory you can convert VB images to qcow2 and have them run | 19:48 |
| kbringard | or, check out… virt-install | 19:48 |
| kbringard | basically runs a kvm instance, you can feed it a cd-rom image | 19:49 |
| nhm | kbringard: I was going to try doing via the method described in section 8.3 of the cactus administration manual. | 19:49 |
| kbringard | not 100% familiar with what's in there off the top of my head… it's been awhile since I looked at the docs ;-) | 19:50 |
| nhm | kbringard: looks like you basically just create a raw image, install into via kvm, then do some magic and get an image. :) | 19:51 |
| kbringard | hehe, yea, more or less | 19:51 |
| kbringard | that's basically what virt-install does | 19:51 |
| kbringard | you feed it some command line options, and it creates an image, fires up a KVM and if you'd given it a cd-rom image it'll boot from it | 19:52 |
| kbringard | you go through your install | 19:52 |
| kbringard | then when it's done, convert the raw to a qcow2 | 19:52 |
| kbringard | upload it to glance and pray | 19:52 |
| nhm | nice | 19:52 |
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| nilsson | does anyone have experience with stackops? | 21:13 |
| nilsson | and why does stackops include collectd in its distro, if openstack already has a watch api? | 21:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819523 in nova "Instance Migrate should be an admin only action" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819523 | 21:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #819551 in glance "Registry db api marker implementation does not respect sort_key/sort_dir" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819551 | 23:27 |
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| glarizza | Has anyone pinned down the "Unable to run euca--describe-images. Is environment for euca- set up?" error when running the uec-publish-tarball command? | 23:58 |
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| glarizza | I've tried using various lucid, natty, and ttylinux images and importing them with uec-publish-tarball and the other uec-publich tools with no luck. | 23:59 |
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