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| OutBackDingo | never installs right | 00:10 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: ping ? | 00:45 |
| berto- | OutBackDingo: hey. | 00:51 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: what network did you use for the instances? | 00:59 |
| berto- | OutBackDingo: i was trying 192.168.123.0/16, but that's giving me issues. when i run an instance it's still getting the 10.x network. so i'm not changing the config somewhere. | 00:59 |
| OutBackDingo | but you can get to the instances on the 10.x network via ssh ? | 01:00 |
| berto- | no, i haven't gotten that far yet. | 01:00 |
| OutBackDingo | ahhh | 01:00 |
| OutBackDingo | i did another box with the 10.0.0.0 and i cant get to the images, i think i need iptables rules or something | 01:01 |
| berto- | hmm, it might also have to do with your dnsmasq processes and potentially an ehternet device with a 10.x address. | 01:04 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: ethernets on 192.168.1.100 | 01:08 |
| OutBackDingo | i can ping the 10.0.0.1 gateway on br100 | 01:08 |
| OutBackDingo | just not the 10.0.0.2 ip of the instance | 01:08 |
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| berto- | OutBackDingo: did you have to define br100 in /etc/network/interfaces? | 01:10 |
| OutBackDingo | yupp | 01:10 |
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| berto- | what does your interface look like? | 01:13 |
| berto- | OutBackDingo: i got this from some openstack page that i dont' remember: http://pastebin.com/rLvuDsvU | 01:13 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: http://pastebin.com/Ct3CiqwM | 01:14 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: yeah same as mine | 01:15 |
| berto- | my problem right now is that i used nova-manage to create a 192.168.123.0 network and removed my 10.x network. but, when I run euca-run-instances the instance is still added to the 10.x network. | 01:17 |
| berto- | i can't figure out where it's still referencing the old network. | 01:17 |
| OutBackDingo | berto-: delete the 10.x network | 01:20 |
| berto- | it's gone from nova-config | 01:21 |
| OutBackDingo | delete it from the db | 01:21 |
| berto- | OutBackDingo: you've gone and mucked into the db directly? you're brave. ;) | 01:22 |
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| berto- | there's only the 192. network in the networks table | 01:23 |
| OutBackDingo | berto-: lol its in 2 tables | 01:24 |
| OutBackDingo | fixed_ips | 01:24 |
| berto- | OutBackDingo: oh, wow, when you remove the network using nova-manage it leaves that table dirty. grr. | 01:25 |
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| OutBackDingo | berto-: :P | 01:25 |
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| berto- | OutBackDingo: wow, that sucked. thanks! | 01:27 |
| berto- | hmm, now i can ping 192.168.123.1, but not .2 | 01:28 |
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| berto- | found this command, which may be useful: euca-get-console-output | 01:38 |
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| berto- | OutBackDingo: i removed br100 from /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted. | 02:01 |
| berto- | after the reboot br100 was automatcially created with the 192.168.123.0 network. | 02:02 |
| berto- | hmm, still can't ping the VM, tho. :\ | 02:04 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #803260 in glance "GET http://<host>:<port>/ with out an "Accept: " header causes glance-api to return a 500 error" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803260 | 02:06 |
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| vodanh86 | does anyone have experience with nova-network? pls help me. | 03:51 |
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| vodanh86 | does anyone have experience with nova-network? pls help me. | 03:53 |
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| vodanh86 | is there anyone here? pls help | 03:58 |
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| vodanh86 | is there anyone here? pls help :( | 04:01 |
| dsockwell | vodanh86: type out your question and then wait for someone to answer it. don't repeat yourself. | 04:02 |
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| HugoKuo__ | hello | 06:19 |
| HugoKuo__ | How to let instance gateway from specify host instead of nova-network host ? | 06:20 |
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| chetan | Hello | 06:29 |
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| dsockwell | Should the server that hosts nova-network be allowed to run nova vms? | 06:35 |
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| chetan | stackops single node working fine , can add next compute node with this setting ? | 06:39 |
| HugoKuo__ | dsockwell , as your will | 06:42 |
| HugoKuo__ | If you want , yes | 06:42 |
| chetan | ok fine | 06:42 |
| HugoKuo__ | it's easy to add compute node :> | 06:42 |
| chetan | <HugoKuo__> :can you please guide to do it , please give reference post | 06:43 |
| HugoKuo__ | apt-get install nova-compute dnsmasq bridge-utils | 06:44 |
| HugoKuo__ | then copy nova.conf to new node | 06:45 |
| HugoKuo__ | but you have to mention that the network stuff | 06:45 |
| chetan | ok | 06:45 |
| chetan | <HugoKuo__> thanks following it . :) | 06:46 |
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| vodanh86 | I have installed Nova, network mode is VLAN, network node act as default gateway for VM. So can I have 2 network node act as 2 gateway? | 06:47 |
| HugoKuo__ | Call me , after you finish the installation | 06:47 |
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| HugoKuo__ | and verify the new node is been added to database | 06:47 |
| chetan | sure ok | 06:48 |
| HugoKuo__ | I believe that you'll get into some problem of instance network | 06:48 |
| HugoKuo__ | 1. your instance on new node might fail to get metadata | 06:48 |
| dsockwell | vodanh86: you may want to look into linux-ha and set your two network controllers up for failover | 06:48 |
| HugoKuo__ | 2. intance might fail to ping external network | 06:49 |
| chetan | my machines in same netwrok 192.168.3.0 | 06:49 |
| HugoKuo__ | dsockwell , any idea about nova-network ha ? | 06:49 |
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| HugoKuo__ | dsockwell , is any doc for refference ? I think network controller is fucking complex to HA & LB | 06:50 |
| dsockwell | HugoKuo__: sorry i've never considered it, but honestly as long as the db is replicated i don't predict much trouble | 06:51 |
| HugoKuo__ | it's not a simple gateway host , it's useless with basic VRRP method | 06:51 |
| vodanh86 | dsockwell: No, I have mutilple public network. I want to my VMs can have public network from diference Network gateway | 06:51 |
| dsockwell | oh. | 06:51 |
| chetan | <HugoKuo__> : openstack support memory overmaping ? | 06:52 |
| dsockwell | vodanh86: well good luck | 06:52 |
| vodanh86 | I refer here: http://blog.stackops.com/2011/06/13/understanding-stackops-openstack-nova-networking-configuration/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+stackopsblog+%28StackOps+Blog%29 | 06:52 |
| vodanh86 | And I have more than one Public Network (Red). | 06:53 |
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| HugoKuo__ | chetan , sorry ... don't know ~"~ | 06:53 |
| HugoKuo__ | vodanh86 , so you want your instance to using different public network ? | 06:54 |
| HugoKuo__ | I have an idea about that , but never test before .... | 06:54 |
| vodanh86 | HugoKuo__ yes. | 06:54 |
| HugoKuo__ | vodan86 , as I know , you can set different network for each project | 06:55 |
| HugoKuo__ | and I believe that each project could route from particular nova-network host | 06:56 |
| HugoKuo__ | it's a concept in my mind | 06:56 |
| vodanh86 | HugoKuo__ can i do that in VLAN mode? | 06:56 |
| chetan | thanks <HugoKuo__> will keep you informed about setup status . | 06:56 |
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| chetan | bye bye guys !! | 06:57 |
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| HugoKuo__ | vodanh86 , I do think so .... in honesty , I works on FlatDHCP in pass 6 months | 06:57 |
| HugoKuo__ | I'm not familiar with Vlan mode , just begin to test Vlan yesterday :< | 06:58 |
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| HugoKuo__ | And I'm facing a challenge of nova-network HA / LB issue | 06:58 |
| vodanh86 | I read some tutorial, In VLAN mode, network is setted for each project is private network | 06:59 |
| vodanh86 | so, I will try FLAT mode, and try do as your idea | 07:02 |
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| vodanh86 | HugoKuo__ thanks for help | 07:02 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803309 in nova "Merge 1219 database additions are causing unit tests to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803309 | 07:11 |
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| ziyadb | anyone implementing openstack across multiple locations and emc vplex for storage? | 07:53 |
| dsockwell | ziyadb: i'm using an openindiana box as a SAN, no multiple locations though | 07:54 |
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| dsockwell | ah, tha'ts multi-site replicatikn? | 07:55 |
| ziyadb | yup | 07:57 |
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| HugoKuo__ | how to install python-novaclient 2.5.x | 08:56 |
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| ziyadb | dsockwell isn't openindiana too small for a huge deployment? how big is your set up? | 09:13 |
| dsockwell | i could have up to 10 nodes! | 09:14 |
| ziyadb | yeah no. | 09:14 |
| dsockwell | :P | 09:14 |
| ziyadb | I'm getting a 100TB array for starters. | 09:14 |
| dsockwell | i'm not suggesting you use it | 09:14 |
| dsockwell | never did | 09:15 |
| ziyadb | yeah I know :) | 09:15 |
| ziyadb | with probably 50+ physical servers. | 09:15 |
| dsockwell | also i should ask, swift or nova or some ungodly combination of the two? | 09:15 |
| ziyadb | godly combination of the two. | 09:15 |
| ziyadb | although most of the array is going to be dedicated for compute nodes (i don't intend to get any DAS drives). | 09:16 |
| ziyadb | and then just use some of the compute nodes for swift. | 09:16 |
| dsockwell | well good luck. | 09:16 |
| ziyadb | thanks | 09:16 |
| ziyadb | i intend to document the whole thing and maybe clean it up and release it as an ebook or something. | 09:17 |
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| dsockwell | my plan for using this OI box is to make a large gfs partition and try to lvm it out for elasticvolume and local storage | 09:17 |
| dsockwell | that would be a good read | 09:17 |
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| dsockwell | i would use the existing iscsi driver for nova-volume but for reasons i won't discuss i'm running over fibre channel | 09:18 |
| dsockwell | and don't care to try fcoip | 09:18 |
| dsockwell | er | 09:18 |
| dsockwell | the other one, fcip | 09:18 |
| ziyadb | sucks, iscsi ftw. | 09:19 |
| dsockwell | yeah | 09:19 |
| dsockwell | you buy me a better ethernet switch and i'll convert :) | 09:19 |
| ziyadb | I'll probably get a couple of 6500 cisco (chassis based) switches due to cost reasons. | 09:20 |
| ziyadb | although optimally I would get 1RU force10 TOR 10G 48 porters. | 09:20 |
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| dsockwell | i had thought you were saudi. | 09:21 |
| dsockwell | jp :P | 09:21 |
| ziyadb | what? | 09:21 |
| dsockwell | i made a dumb joke about your budget being bigger than mine | 09:21 |
| dsockwell | anyway | 09:22 |
| ziyadb | right, yeah. but the project is in the US. not self funded :) | 09:22 |
| ziyadb | besides, even if it were. | 09:22 |
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| dsockwell | ah well. i like being the king of my own little scrap heap | 09:24 |
| dsockwell | anyway what were we talking about? iscsi | 09:24 |
| ziyadb | yeah, i've been reading the emc vplex architecture guide, too awesome, but too good to be affordable. | 09:25 |
| ziyadb | it's basically an appliance, so if the business works and we choose to get another location then we'll probably get it. | 09:25 |
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| dsockwell | :| | 09:30 |
| dsockwell | the scrapheap has elected to take away the boot cd i've been using. | 09:32 |
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| dsockwell | because i mislabeled it. awesome. | 09:38 |
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| ziyadb | haha | 09:39 |
| dsockwell | dont judge me | 09:39 |
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| ziyadb | i'm not :) | 09:42 |
| dsockwell | also re: openindiana, zfs does stand for zetabyte filesystem | 09:42 |
| ziyadb | meh. | 09:42 |
| dsockwell | you probably don't feel like assembling a 100TB installation yourself though | 09:43 |
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| dsockwell | nova-volume does have a driver to export some kind of volume over iscsi, pretty automatically, though | 09:44 |
| dsockwell | from openindiana | 09:44 |
| dsockwell | or solaris for that matter | 09:45 |
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| ziyadb | sounds like something i should look at | 09:46 |
| dsockwell | you know you want a thumper ;) | 09:47 |
| dsockwell | although, no, probably too old for your shop | 09:48 |
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| dsockwell | cool, someone apparently dropped off a stack of Microsoft licenses from 2003-2005 | 09:52 |
| dsockwell | windows XP, small business server 2k3, office, project, sql server | 09:52 |
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| HugoKuo__ | koolheadll , hello | 11:23 |
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| caribou | Hello, | 12:18 |
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| caribou | My question relates to Swift (cactus) | 12:19 |
| caribou | I'm setting it up on Ubuntu/Natty & I'm having a problem with the proxy-server configuration : the use of 'tempauth' seems to be broken somehow | 12:19 |
| caribou | I mean, I'm following the SAIO instruction, but the proxy-server fails to start if 'tempauth' is part of the pipeline | 12:20 |
| caribou | if I switch it to swauth with the appropriate filter, it starts | 12:20 |
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| primeministerp | greeting programs | 13:32 |
| primeministerp | er greetings | 13:32 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 13:33 |
| primeministerp | still early | 13:33 |
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| Razique | Hi openstackers, could someone give me a link or an explanation of the whole nova-resizing process ? | 14:04 |
| Razique | I"d like to know if I can resize a running instance, without screwing it up | 14:04 |
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| creiht | caribou: when starting the proxy what error do you get? | 14:57 |
| caribou | creiht: I think I have found my problem : newbie mistake :) | 14:58 |
| creiht | caribou: cool | 14:58 |
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| caribou | I did implement the SAIO 1.4dev instruction, using the cactus bits | 14:58 |
| creiht | :) | 14:58 |
| caribou | indeed, cactus doesn't have tempauth but when I use the proper document, I no longer have the problem | 14:59 |
| caribou | sorry for the noise | 14:59 |
| creiht | caribou: no problem | 15:00 |
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| Razique | Hi all, when I use the nova resize-confirm, i've that error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/1792/ | 15:17 |
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| dprince | Razique: Do you have an instance in the 'RESIZE-CONFIRM' state? This would mean you had a record in the migrations table in the finished state. | 15:28 |
| Razique | dprince: I launched a resize yeah | 15:28 |
| Razique | but how can I check the resize state for that instance ? | 15:28 |
| dprince | Razique: Right. What does 'nova list' show? What state is the instance currently in? | 15:29 |
| Razique | dprince: the isntance that I resized is in "ACTIVE" state | 15:29 |
| dprince | Razique: Yep. The instances states in can be quite confusing right now. | 15:30 |
| dprince | Razique: I'm actually gather a list of oddities here: | 15:30 |
| dprince | http://wiki.openstack.org/status_transition_issues | 15:30 |
| dprince | Razique: I'm asking around to see whether this is something we want to fix across the board or as individual tickets, etc. | 15:31 |
| dprince | Razique: In any case you were asking about just the resize. Resize will work (with XenServer) assuming you have plugins, ssh keys, etc setup. | 15:33 |
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| Razique | dprince: mmm ok | 15:33 |
| dprince | Razique: When an instance is resizing it will go from ACTIVE --> SHUTDOWN -- RESIZE-CONFIRM. | 15:33 |
| dprince | Razique: At that point you should be able to see the instances status as 'RESIZE-CONFIRM' and then send the 'nova resize-confirm' command. | 15:34 |
| Razique | dprince: I have not seen the shutdown after I run a nova resize $id $plan | 15:34 |
| dprince | Razique: Then my guess is something didn't work. | 15:35 |
| dprince | Razique: Can you check the nova-compute.log files? | 15:35 |
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| Razique | dprince: you were right http://paste.openstack.org/show/1793/ | 15:36 |
| dprince | Razique: You might also find something useful in /var/log/xensource.log on dom0. | 15:36 |
| Razique | why is there a migration process involved for a resize ? | 15:36 |
| Razique | dprince: I use KVM :) | 15:37 |
| dprince | Razique: Ah. Yes. | 15:37 |
| dprince | Razique: So couple of things. When doing a resize nova migrates the node to ensure there is enough space (in case the resize is a larger instance). | 15:37 |
| dprince | Razique: So the resize is failing because the scheduler picked the same nova-compute instance. (perhaps you only have a single nova-compute instance?) | 15:38 |
| Razique | dprince: exactly, I just have a compute node :) | 15:38 |
| dprince | Razique: Also. I don't think the libvirt driver in nova will fully support resize anyway. | 15:39 |
| dprince | Razique: Just FYI. The different virt drivers don't all implement the full spec. | 15:39 |
| dprince | Razique: I think XenServer is the only hypervisor that works w/ resize ATM. | 15:40 |
| Razique | dprince: but, actually libvirt is able to change a VM's ressources (I mean in a shutdown state) | 15:40 |
| Razique | it's not a hot-resize, but you are able to at least change the VM's specs | 15:40 |
| Razique | (eg. memory, cores) | 15:40 |
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| dprince | Razique: Sure. I'm not saying libvirt can't do it. Its just the libvirt driver in nova that doesn't quite have the support for it yet. | 15:41 |
| Razique | dprince: ok, so actually, if you use a plan for an instance, you can't really use another one with libvirt/ kvm ? | 15:41 |
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| Razique | you have to terminate the instance, and recreate one then :/ | 15:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803505 in nova "OSAPI: v1.1 flavors links container does not match spec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803505 | 15:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803524 in nova "openstack 1.1 image api doesn't work if there is a port in the href" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803524 | 16:32 |
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| dprince | ls | 17:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #803553 in nova "euca-modify-image-attribute makes an image disappear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803553 | 17:21 |
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| JusHal | Hi, Anyone here that has cactus+lxc running? | 17:25 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803563 in nova "OSAPI: images list v1.1 fails" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803563 | 17:37 |
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| huslage | which service does volume creation when you run euca-create-volume? | 17:47 |
| huslage | mine are all stuck in "Creating" and i see errors in the scheduler log | 17:47 |
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| huslage | found it. sorry | 17:53 |
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| huslage | ok | 18:00 |
| huslage | is there a way to change the VG that nova-volume uses? I can't find a config var (stupid) but can I patch some code? | 18:01 |
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| JusHal | huslage: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/volume/driver.py: flags.DEFINE_string('volume_group', 'nova-volumes' ? | 18:04 |
| huslage | thanks :) | 18:05 |
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| huslage | JusHal: what's the reason for not making this configurable? | 18:06 |
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| JusHal | hehe, just showed you the result of a grep.. don't know anything more than that :) .. it might not even be what you are looking for | 18:07 |
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| huslage | well looking at the dev docs it seems to be | 18:08 |
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| huslage | oh this should be a flag | 18:11 |
| huslage | hmm | 18:11 |
| huslage | no | 18:13 |
| huslage | it's a "flag" | 18:13 |
| huslage | not exposed | 18:13 |
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| vishy | huslage: exposed via conf file or command line param | 18:14 |
| huslage | got it vishy. i'm ondumbness factor 10 right now | 18:14 |
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| vishy | all of the flags work that way :) | 18:14 |
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| huslage | vishy: why hasn't it consumed my existing requests yet? it seems like the scheduler bombed and then the messages got all wonky | 18:15 |
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| reed | is anybody here going to the openstack meetup in mountain view tonight from san francisco and needs a ride? | 18:22 |
| vishy | huslage: sorry I don't understand? | 18:24 |
| huslage | i see what happened | 18:24 |
| huslage | everything got all out of whack | 18:25 |
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| JusHal | cactus seems to handle lxc creation just fine, but fails to start it as I don't see it try to mount the loopback image. Any idea where I should expect 'losetup' to be called in the code? | 18:30 |
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| OutBackDingo | is there a guide/howto for creating instances, say freebsd from iso ? | 18:40 |
| vishy | JusHal: it uses nbd unless you have --nouse_cow_images | 18:41 |
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| JusHal | vishy: tried both, --use_cow_images=true, --use_cow_images=false, it should be --nouse_cow_images=true? | 18:48 |
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| vishy | uh no | 18:49 |
| vishy | --nouse_cow_images or --use_cow_images=0 | 18:50 |
| vishy | ii think use_cow_images=false should work ... | 18:50 |
| huslage | so i created a 10G volume, it was shared out and attached to the VM. the VM formats it and thinks it's 40G | 18:50 |
| vishy | bonus! | 18:50 |
| huslage | overprovisioning ftw | 18:51 |
| vishy | the 40G is probably the local storage | 18:51 |
| huslage | nope | 18:51 |
| huslage | local storage is 9g | 18:51 |
| vishy | local is /dev/vdb for any instance size besides m1.tiny | 18:51 |
| vishy | attached volumes will show up at /dev/vdc | 18:51 |
| vishy | + | 18:51 |
| huslage | it's vda | 18:51 |
| huslage | /dev/vda on / type ext4 (rw) | 18:52 |
| vishy | vda is the base image | 18:52 |
| vishy | vdb is local storage | 18:52 |
| huslage | oh like ephemeral | 18:52 |
| huslage | ok | 18:52 |
| vishy | yes | 18:52 |
| vishy | sorry forgot the aws term is ephemeral | 18:52 |
| huslage | sorry. i'm pwn3d by aws | 18:52 |
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| huslage | so functionally the local storage goes away when we reboot the instance | 18:53 |
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| huslage | and it's tied to the instance | 18:54 |
| huslage | similar to aws | 18:54 |
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| huslage | the volume is similar to EBS | 18:54 |
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| huslage | got it | 18:54 |
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| JusHal | huslage: because use_cow_images=true did not work I tried false, nova-compute.log shows no error, reports status instances running, but is not running. Nothing is mounted on /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-xxx/rootfs. after a manual mount -o loop /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-xxx/disk /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-xxx/rootfs and euca-reboot-instances i-xxx, instance is running. | 18:59 |
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| JusHal | vishy: comment above was meant for you | 19:03 |
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| huslage | vishy: know anything about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/792388 | 19:07 |
| huslage | i kinda need snapshots | 19:08 |
| huslage | is there a back port or do i need to install diablo? | 19:08 |
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| vishy | snapshot, no backport | 19:10 |
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| vishy | huslage: d2 milestone might be a good choice | 19:10 |
| huslage | just upgrade from ppa? | 19:10 |
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| huslage | oh no packages | 19:11 |
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| vishy | JusHal: hmm, did you run the instance after creating the flag | 19:11 |
| vishy | huslage: milestone ppa will be available tomorrow :) | 19:12 |
| huslage | i can wait :) | 19:12 |
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| huslage | prefer packages | 19:13 |
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| JusHal | vishy: yes and see as expected instead of a 'qemu-img create -f qcow2' a 'cp' command to create the disk image, but in both cases nothing seems to get mounted | 19:17 |
| vishy | hmm | 19:17 |
| vishy | JusHal: not sure what might be going wrong | 19:17 |
| vishy | d | 19:17 |
| vishy | o | 19:17 |
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| vishy | do you get any error messages? | 19:18 |
| vishy | in nova-compute.log | 19:18 |
| JusHal | vishy: no errors just "nova.utils: Running cmd (subprocess): qemu-img create /or cp" and then "nova.virt.libvirt_conn: instance instance-0000000a: is running" | 19:19 |
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| bpaluch | will the milestone ppa include keystone by default? | 19:20 |
| JusHal | vishy: no failed sudo entries in /var/log/secure .. so nothing indicates the code even tries to mount anything | 19:21 |
| bpaluch | I haven't really seen it documented anywhere | 19:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803615 in nova "Server create error messages/fault codes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803615 | 19:41 |
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| Andrew__ | Hello all | 20:50 |
| Andrew__ | Anyone have a minute or two to answer some questions? | 20:50 |
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| creiht | Andrew__: best thing is to ask, and then wait until someone is able to answer the question :) | 20:52 |
| dsockwell | Andrew__: next time just come in and shout them | 20:52 |
| Andrew__ | Hah, will do :-P | 20:52 |
| dsockwell | also | 20:52 |
| dsockwell | certain install instructions reference a nova.conf that comes with a bzr checkout / setup.py run. is that obsolete? do i need to get a skeleton nova.conf? | 20:52 |
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| dsockwell | because mine's missing | 20:53 |
| Andrew__ | In short, I'm wondering if OpenStack Object Storage is a good fit for what I want it to do. I need something that can store several terabytes of files, most of which are under 500KB, eventually scaling to trillions of files comprising a petabyte or so. | 20:54 |
| Andrew__ | Workload is generally write-once, and most of the files are not reproducible, so replication is a must. Files are binary data. | 20:54 |
| huslage | Andrew__: you might take a look at GlusterFS | 20:55 |
| Andrew__ | I've looked at distributed filesystems (Gluster, Lustre, Ceph, etc) | 20:55 |
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| huslage | but OpenStack storage is ok if you want an API into a container for files | 20:55 |
| Andrew__ | But I'm also looking at stuff like OpenStack / Eucalyptus. | 20:55 |
| huslage | openstack storage is a key/value store | 20:55 |
| huslage | with blobs | 20:56 |
| huslage | essentially | 20:56 |
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| huslage | nova doesn't currently use object storage for anything but image storage via glance | 20:56 |
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| Andrew__ | My main question is how easy it is to extend. Setup for both GlusterFS and OpenStack is pretty complex, so the distinguishing factor is how easy to extend. | 20:57 |
| huslage | extend in what way? | 20:57 |
| Andrew__ | Adding new servers/drives | 20:57 |
| huslage | oh | 20:57 |
| huslage | more or less trivial | 20:57 |
| Andrew__ | Does OpenStack auto-rebalance? | 20:57 |
| huslage | but both need to rebalance | 20:57 |
| creiht | Andrew__: Swift should work for what you want to do | 20:58 |
| huslage | Andrew__: it's more about how you want to access the files | 20:58 |
| huslage | Swift works fine for that use case, imo. if your code references files in a filesystem, it'll have to be altered significantly to work with swift | 20:59 |
| Andrew__ | The access method isn't actually that important to me. I have control over the apps that will access the files, so a REST api vs. a Samba share vs. whatever else isn't that important. | 21:00 |
| creiht | Andrew__: is this for some sort of data collection? | 21:00 |
| creiht | How fast do you need to write the data to the cluster? | 21:01 |
| Andrew__ | The files are effectively being archived, but I will occasionally need to access them from a variety of applications. | 21:01 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:01 |
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| Andrew__ | I'm anticipating a write speed of no more than one file per second, average file size is 500KB | 21:02 |
| huslage | Swift is perfect for that really Andrew__ | 21:02 |
| creiht | yeah | 21:02 |
| huslage | long-term archival storage | 21:02 |
| creiht | Should work well for that use case | 21:02 |
| huslage | but still easy to get at (as long as you create containers right) | 21:02 |
| Andrew__ | So, assuming I go with Swift | 21:03 |
| creiht | In what way would you like to extend it? | 21:03 |
| huslage | creiht: he wants to add servers | 21:04 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:04 |
| creiht | adding servers is a pretty easy process | 21:04 |
| Andrew__ | Add servers / extra drives at will, ideally | 21:04 |
| creiht | yeah | 21:04 |
| Andrew__ | And, the files will be keyed by their file hash (SHA256) | 21:04 |
| creiht | That's fine | 21:04 |
| Andrew__ | Is there a limit on how many files can be stored in one container? | 21:05 |
| creiht | theoretically no | 21:05 |
| creiht | in practice it depends | 21:05 |
| creiht | as you add more objects to a container, container requests will slowly get slower | 21:05 |
| Andrew__ | Well, I'll eventually have over a trillion files - what kind of performance loss are we talking here? Even a rough idea? | 21:06 |
| creiht | in our testing that happens aroung 5-10million in a single container on normal hardware with SATA drives | 21:06 |
| Andrew__ | Hum. And containers have no impact on each other? | 21:06 |
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| creiht | we are currently testing containers on SSD drives, and have shown really good performance through 1 billion objects in a container | 21:07 |
| creiht | correct, containers don't impact each other | 21:07 |
| creiht | so it is good to spread your objects in different containers | 21:07 |
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| creiht | for example, if you are archiving, you could use a different container per year, or year/month, etc. | 21:08 |
| Andrew__ | So, I could theoretically create, say, one container for each 2-byte prefix of a hash (cont_0000, cont_0001, ..., cont_00FF, cont_0100, etc.) and just distribute it like that? | 21:08 |
| creiht | or based on a prefix of the hashed file name | 21:08 |
| Andrew__ | Hah, yeah :P | 21:08 |
| creiht | :) | 21:08 |
| huslage | yeah Andrew__ a regular dir hash deal | 21:08 |
| creiht | sure | 21:08 |
| huslage | are there any projects to integrate openstack with monitoring tools? | 21:09 |
| huslage | to move machines off of unhealthy nodes, etc | 21:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803654 in nova "availability zone ignored when creating volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803654 | 21:47 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803656 in glance "Support is_public in filtering" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803656 | 21:51 |
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| _vinay_ | hi question about glance | 21:57 |
| _vinay_ | I just restarted glance server (sudo glance-control api restart; sudo glance-control registry restart) | 21:57 |
| _vinay_ | seems like images are gone.. object in swift are still there.. | 21:57 |
| _vinay_ | is glance supposed to reset its index on each restart?? | 21:58 |
| vishy | _vinay_: I haven't used it with swift, but no | 22:01 |
| vishy | it should still have its db. Did you change the sql connection settings somehow? | 22:01 |
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| _vinay_ | no I havent changed the sql conn settings | 22:07 |
| _vinay_ | oh.. thanks for the hint .. I think I found the problem | 22:09 |
| _vinay_ | I have sql_connection = sqlite:///glance.sqlite | 22:10 |
| Davor` | Hi all... | 22:10 |
| _vinay_ | and it seems that from wherever I restart the services it takes on the db in the current dir | 22:10 |
| _vinay_ | restarting from the correct dir solved the problem :-).. Maybe I should give absolute path in my sqlite string | 22:12 |
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| _vinay_ | That is the default however and seems to me a low-priority bug | 22:13 |
| Davor` | If I'm running only nova-compute on a compute node of a multi-node cluster, is it supposed to set up the networking (bridge, routes, iptables) by itself like it did on the controller? | 22:13 |
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| xnyl1 | trying to install nova 2011.2 on centos with python2.6 | 23:02 |
| xnyl1 | getting import lockfile | 23:02 |
| xnyl1 | ImportError: No module named lockfile | 23:02 |
| xnyl1 | anyone see the immediate problem ? | 23:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | maybe because the version of centos that you are using does not provide the python module lockfile | 23:03 |
| dsockwell | xnyl1: what version of centos? | 23:04 |
| xnyl1 | ahh so lockfile is a module ? | 23:04 |
| xnyl1 | it is centos 5.4 but I have installed python 2.6 | 23:04 |
| _vinay_ | Hi, I have a swift question | 23:04 |
| _vinay_ | My authurl is http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 | 23:04 |
| RoAkSoAx | xnyl1: yes it is a python module | 23:04 |
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| dsockwell | xnyl1: look at the centos 5 install notes | 23:05 |
| _vinay_ | Sorry its a glance config question | 23:05 |
| _vinay_ | swift_store_auth_address = http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 | 23:05 |
| dsockwell | xnyl1: tehre's a whole mess of things that you need to install other than just py26 | 23:05 |
| xnyl1 | ok that makes sense then I will take a peek and see where I can get that installed from | 23:05 |
| _vinay_ | does this look bad | 23:05 |
| xnyl1 | yeah I was going through and have installed the python distutils extra | 23:06 |
| xnyl1 | and the python gflags | 23:06 |
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| xnyl1 | but just wasnt sure where to go with the lockfile but now you pointed me in the right direction so I will start there | 23:07 |
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| xnyl1 | thank you so much | 23:07 |
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| Focus160 | hey does openstack support Ephemeral storage | 23:07 |
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| OutBackDingo | ok..... so...... how is it openstack interfaces with XEN ?, and how does openstack interact with it, does it need to have compute node installed on the xen box ? | 23:49 |
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| berto- | OutBackDingo: where did you get the image you're trying to run on openstack? | 23:51 |
| berto- | i downloaded an image listed in one of the docs I read and i'm starting to wonder if that's my problem. | 23:51 |
| OutBackDingo | berto-: do you see it loaded ? | 23:52 |
| OutBackDingo | and running | 23:52 |
| OutBackDingo | berto-: i followed http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova | 23:53 |
| xnyl1 | has anyone setup the openstack on xen ? | 23:54 |
| OutBackDingo | and i can get to my images on a 192.168.1.x network locally from 192.168.0.100 being the host | 23:54 |
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| OutBackDingo | xnyl1: lol i hope so its listed in the suported hypervisors, as is XCP | 23:55 |
| xnyl1 | I see when the centos setup instruction it is wanting to install kvm which is a totally different hypervisor | 23:55 |
| OutBackDingo | xnyl1: hence my questions..... i want openstack and xen server now, not kvm | 23:55 |
| xnyl1 | yeah I am just goignt back over the instructions to install the openstack on centos and it was stating kvm | 23:55 |
| xnyl1 | Are you installing it on xen also ? | 23:56 |
| OutBackDingo | everything appears to be kvm based in the instructions | 23:56 |
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| OutBackDingo | xnyl1: the game plan is a cliudstack -> openstack - xen with a swift/glade backend | 23:56 |
| xnyl1 | yeah which is totally fine as long as it is not required :) | 23:56 |
| xnyl1 | yeah which version of centos are yo udoing it on ? | 23:57 |
| xnyl1 | OutBackdingo: that is kinda our plan too | 23:58 |
| OutBackDingo | xen server/XCP i | 23:58 |
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| OutBackDingo | and ubuntu for swift/glade | 23:58 |
| OutBackDingo | i refuse to use rpm based distros | 23:59 |
| xnyl1 | ahh ok we are doing centos | 23:59 |
| xnyl1 | well I am a compile from source typ a girl so I am not to ahppy about it all | 23:59 |
| OutBackDingo | though yum helps a bit, nothing matches dpkg :) | 23:59 |
| OutBackDingo | xnyl1: i did the same mostly though on ubuntu | 23:59 |
| xnyl1 | I want all the source and then some time and I do it from scratch | 23:59 |
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