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| codemaniac | hey... when i run "euca-describe-instances", it shows as "scheduling" and not as "running"... what could be the problem?? | 08:14 |
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| kim0 | Hey guys, is the api server a single server (i.e. no HA ?) | 19:25 |
| vishy | kim0: it is by default, but you can set up HA pretty easily by running a bunch of them | 19:25 |
| vishy | we run 8 with HA proxy in front | 19:25 |
| kim0 | wow :) | 19:26 |
| kim0 | I've been reading the multi-server deployment guide | 19:26 |
| kim0 | I'm still quite confused however .. It mentions setting up and api server | 19:26 |
| kim0 | and compute-nodes | 19:26 |
| kim0 | while I suppose, I'd need network nodes ? possibly holding the real IPs on them ? | 19:27 |
| alekibango | vishy: which bzr version should work well? in last week there was lots of crazy stuff goinng on | 19:27 |
| kim0 | I suppose I could do multi-cluster deployments ? | 19:27 |
| vishy | kim0: now that I think about it there is a patch we need to submit to support multiple apis | 19:27 |
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| kim0 | cool :) | 19:28 |
| vishy | alekibango: I think trunk is still working for dev. The initscripts/packages are probably broken | 19:28 |
| * vishy goes to submit the patch | 19:28 | |
| kim0 | Would a large scale deployment by like NetworkNodes(holding-real-IPs) -- ComputeNodes(KVM-here) -- StorageNodes(iscsi) | 19:29 |
| kim0 | with APINodes(load-balanced-parallel-to-the-above) | 19:29 |
| kim0 | Is that a good approximation | 19:29 |
| vishy | kim0: yes | 19:32 |
| vishy | kim0: we run compute and storage on the same nodes | 19:32 |
| kim0 | vishy: do network nodes snat/dnat all connections like ec2 somehow | 19:33 |
| kim0 | would cloud-pipe run on a network node ? | 19:33 |
| vishy | kim0: yes | 19:34 |
| vishy | kim0: cloud-pipe are instances/guests that run inside a project's vlan | 19:34 |
| vishy | kin0: so they run as a guest on a compute node like any other instance | 19:34 |
| kim0 | Is a "project" limited to a single compute node | 19:35 |
| vishy | no | 19:35 |
| kim0 | vishy: Thanks man, you're awesome :) | 19:36 |
| vishy | np kim0 | 19:36 |
| kim0 | vishy: one more thingy, coming from eucalyptus land .. does openstack have the concept of a multi-cluster cloud as well? | 19:37 |
| vishy | going to propose the merge that allows for multiple apis | 19:37 |
| vishy | kin0: not exactly, we don't currently have the concept of multiple clusters | 19:37 |
| vishy | kim0: ^^ | 19:37 |
| vishy | kim0: but there is no reason why you couldn't run it on multiple clusters, it would just behave as one large cluster. You need to share L2 connectivity and vlans in the current model | 19:38 |
| vishy | kim0: we're working on splitting things out to allow for different deployments | 19:38 |
| vishy | kim0: where you could have one network node per cluster that could be in charge of networking for that particular cluster | 19:39 |
| vishy | kim0: I don't think it will jive right away with the idea of splitting up projects into vlans though | 19:39 |
| kim0 | a project would be confined within a cluster I guess | 19:40 |
| vishy | kim0: so initially that mode will probably only work with the kind of flat/public aws style model. | 19:40 |
| kim0 | vishy: just to be sure .. so if I were to try and replicate AWS, us-east would currently be a single L2 network with no separate failure-domains. And us-west would be another separate cloud (not sharing authentication info or other resources with us-east) ? | 19:45 |
| vishy | kim0: we have a similar set up, we share auth by using ldap with a slave. | 19:45 |
| vishy | kim0: but yeah everything else is separate | 19:46 |
| alekibango | vishy: hmm so when trunk ppa packages worked well ? | 19:49 |
| alekibango | :) | 19:49 |
| alekibango | i recompiled those under debian | 19:49 |
| alekibango | week ago | 19:49 |
| vishy | alekibango: I don't know, I haven't deployed from trunk in a long while, I would suggest right before the eventlet branch merged | 19:49 |
| alekibango | and i have no network coming | 19:49 |
| alekibango | no routing | 19:49 |
| vishy | alekibango: hmm, which networking mode? | 19:49 |
| alekibango | tried vlan and flat | 19:50 |
| vishy | generally in vlan it is either: | 19:50 |
| alekibango | (untried flatdhcp) | 19:50 |
| vishy | dnsmasq is already running so it doesn't start properly | 19:50 |
| vishy | or you need to run a euca-athorize | 19:50 |
| vishy | in console output are you getting an ip? | 19:51 |
| alekibango | yes i get ip | 19:51 |
| alekibango | would you look if i gave you root account please? it would help me a lot if you would gave few minutes of your time :) | 19:51 |
| vishy | sure | 19:51 |
| alekibango | will you send me your public ssh key? | 19:52 |
| alekibango | (over irc would be best) | 19:52 |
| alekibango | hmm or i can send you pw, i install those from fai-project in 5 minutes :) | 19:53 |
| alekibango | and yes, probably dnsmasq was running already | 19:53 |
| alekibango | i havent seen euca-authorize in examples on wiki | 19:54 |
| kim0 | vishy: In the multi-server guide, would $CC_ADDR be the public load balanced api server IP | 19:55 |
| vishy | kim0: link? | 19:55 |
| kim0 | http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/MultipleServer | 19:55 |
| kim0 | it's in nova.conf everywhere really | 19:56 |
| alekibango | kim0: what os are u on? | 19:56 |
| alekibango | which packages? | 19:56 |
| kim0 | 10.10 .. running from trunk | 19:57 |
| alekibango | kim0: how long you will be here today? | 19:57 |
| alekibango | i need to make it working too, so we might cooperate somehow | 19:57 |
| kim0 | about 3 hours from now | 19:57 |
| alekibango | maybe using etherpad | 19:57 |
| kim0 | well I'm in no way an expert .. but I'd love it | 19:57 |
| alekibango | kim0: only few people are experts on nova, but they also sometimes do not know :) | 19:58 |
| kim0 | alekibango: well, if you've got lots of hardware to play with .. I'm all yours hehe | 19:59 |
| alekibango | i have 3 real servers which are automatically installed using fai-project with nova on them | 20:00 |
| alekibango | but i have some problems configuring it well | 20:00 |
| alekibango | i have no problem to give you root for few days, if you will send me ssh public key | 20:00 |
| alekibango | we can share screen session :) | 20:00 |
| alekibango | vishy: so, will you send me your ssh key please? | 20:00 |
| kim0 | alekibango: r u aware of the novascript | 20:01 |
| alekibango | yes thats what i tried first | 20:01 |
| kim0 | and it didn't work for you ? | 20:01 |
| alekibango | but.... i need something better for production | 20:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #692317 in nova "Metadata breaks with Forwarded-For" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692317 | 20:01 |
| alekibango | kim0: it worked... on different server | 20:01 |
| alekibango | which i installed manually | 20:01 |
| kim0 | alekibango: so your problem is deploying on multiple servers | 20:01 |
| alekibango | yes, automated deployment | 20:02 |
| alekibango | that part works nicely, almost | 20:02 |
| alekibango | but nova fails for me somehow - cant connect to my instances | 20:02 |
| kim0 | alekibango: ok pm'ing you | 20:02 |
| alekibango | kim0: i install server in 280-420 seconds, including disk partitioning and software raid-1, installing etc | 20:03 |
| vishy | kim0: yes | 20:04 |
| vishy | alekibango: does your switch support vlans? | 20:07 |
| alekibango | ha, i dont know | 20:08 |
| vishy | alekibango: and have you enabled the range that nova uses to be host managed? | 20:08 |
| vishy | that is probably your problem | 20:08 |
| alekibango | vishy: for now it doesnt work even on one server :) | 20:08 |
| vishy | oh | 20:08 |
| vishy | ok | 20:08 |
| vishy | we can fix that at least: | 20:08 |
| vishy | i'm blaming dnsmasq | 20:09 |
| vishy | :) | 20:09 |
| alekibango | i dont know, maybe i am blind or somting | 20:09 |
| alekibango | you know, i called for scritp which will check nova health -- i would love to have that one | 20:09 |
| vishy | libvirt tries to run its own dnsmasq, which you have to kill | 20:09 |
| alekibango | ah :) | 20:09 |
| kim0 | really :) that should so go into documentation :) | 20:11 |
| alekibango | kim0: i will fix docs when i will get my system ready | 20:11 |
| vishy | we should have a troubleshooting section for the common things to check if you can't access your instances | 20:13 |
| vishy | I've probably helped debug various networking related things about 20 times | 20:14 |
| vishy | :) | 20:14 |
| alekibango | vishy: i agree. lets do it together.. i can code python/shell... but i miss nova knowhow still | 20:15 |
| alekibango | rebooted server, will be installed soon | 20:15 |
| alekibango | :D | 20:15 |
| vishy | alekibango: I will do a braindump of all of the networking troubleshooting that I have done and ideas for how to fix various issues and put it in the wiki | 20:16 |
| alekibango | great! | 20:16 |
| alekibango | vishy: its really hard for people to make it running well, anne cant write those docs, we need devs to write them | 20:16 |
| alekibango | i talked to anne about requrements to write docs along the code with merge requests -- as is common in many projects | 20:17 |
| kim0 | docs have improved quite significantly however .. it's a quantam leap :) | 20:17 |
| alekibango | because we will get crazy if the codebase will be that fast moving target all the time | 20:17 |
| alekibango | :) | 20:18 |
| alekibango | kim0: i wrote basic structure for those, so i love it having some content :) | 20:20 |
| alekibango | but still i miss critical info there | 20:20 |
| alekibango | as - how to configure nova-volume | 20:20 |
| alekibango | or - if its smart thing to do to use nova-volume if i have only 4 servers | 20:20 |
| alekibango | or what to do if you want to use only parts of subnetwork for nova | 20:21 |
| vishy | alekibango: some of that stuff is undetermined :) | 20:21 |
| alekibango | and more... | 20:21 |
| alekibango | vishy: for newbie, that sounds like 1000 questions which will spin your head | 20:21 |
| alekibango | ok installed | 20:22 |
| alekibango | 366 seconds :) | 20:22 |
| alekibango | hmm that was pretty fast, i thought it will be 480 | 20:22 |
| alekibango | i hope all will be there | 20:22 |
| alekibango | vishy: please run screen | 20:24 |
| alekibango | or byobu rather :D | 20:24 |
| alekibango | so we can look | 20:24 |
| * kim0 is in | 20:24 | |
| alekibango | :) | 20:25 |
| alekibango | its debian squeeze | 20:25 |
| alekibango | dpkg -l |grep nova | 20:26 |
| alekibango | plz join #openstack-debug kim0 vishy :) | 20:27 |
| alekibango | so, i will run screen, connect to it using screen -x | 20:29 |
| alekibango | ah you are doing something, its you kim0? | 20:29 |
| kim0 | alekibango: vishy | 20:30 |
| kim0 | alekibango: ip connectivity dropped ? | 20:37 |
| alekibango | yes, eth0 down | 20:38 |
| alekibango | ifup eth0 : | 20:38 |
| alekibango | ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 | 20:38 |
| alekibango | lol | 20:38 |
| alekibango | so i did dhclient eth0 | 20:38 |
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