Wednesday, 2010-11-10

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ianwellerrackerhacker: you're going to FUDCon! (so the wiki says)04:56
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dubsquaredanyone home?06:52
ranjibyea06:57
dubsquaredheya06:57
dubsquaredknowledgable with swift?06:58
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ranjibyes a bit06:58
ranjibrunning swift  here in thoughtworks on centos 5.506:59
dubsquarednice06:59
dubsquaredso here is my problem06:59
dubsquaredswift-ring-builder account.builder z1.........06:59
dubsquaredi scripted that out, but i missed one variable, so all my devices are in z107:00
dubsquaredand don't increment up07:00
dubsquaredi have 5 nodes total07:00
dubsquaredi cant seem to figure out how to clear that out, or change the zone07:00
dubsquaredset_info doesn't seem to allow that?07:00
dubsquaredi can change ip, meta, port, etc...07:01
dubsquaredand if i run a 'remove', well i cant run a rebalance07:01
dubsquaredso that doesn't even matter07:01
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ranjibyou have to revuild the ring , but then you wont be able to run rebalance07:26
dubsquaredthat's fine, i wouldn't have to rebalance if i rebuilt07:27
dubsquaredhow do i do that?  there isn't a flat file that stores all this data, so what is the best way to restart this process?07:27
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ranjibdid you looked at http://swift.openstack.org/admin_guide.html07:41
dubsquaredyea, poking through a few guides atm07:41
dubsquaredso i have two devices set up, but my rebalance is still failing07:44
dubsquared(in 2 zones, now)07:44
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ranjibhmm.. why rebalance is failing? can you paste the trace?07:52
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JordanRinkeword08:09
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JordanRinkeanyone arround? quick swift zone q10:41
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rackerhackerianweller: waiting on the final approval!12:34
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ianwellerrackerhacker: :)13:19
rackerhackerianweller: i assume you'll be there13:19
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ianwellerrackerhacker: yup.13:22
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JordanRinkeanyone around?13:33
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_0x44JordanRinke: I am, but I can't answer your swift question, unfortunately.13:37
JordanRinkei got it worked out :-D13:40
JordanRinkei am having trouble spawning 200 instances in nova now13:40
JordanRinkeI have a quota of 20 instances somewhere and I can't find it13:40
JordanRinkeah found it13:41
JordanRinkenova-manage lists it in help, but it has to go in nova-api.conf13:41
_0x44Yeah, I think that was mentioned in the API talk last summit13:43
_0x44But I guess it didn't make it into the default config to display the "sane" defaults.13:44
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JordanRinkei am looking forward to seeing how this works here in a minute13:45
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dendrobatesanyone at the summit:  meeting in the lobby of the weston centre in 10 min to go for some good breakfast tacos13:55
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JordanRinkearent they providing breakfast?13:57
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krishdid someone say breakfast..... it triggered highlight on my irc client13:57
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dendrobatesJordanRinke: yes they are, I am opting out.13:58
JordanRinkehaha, i see13:58
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JordanRinkeyou dont dig the odd little tortillas in eggs thing? lol13:59
JordanRinkeor tortilla chips more specifically13:59
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dendrobatesI just know of more tasty options14:00
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JordanRinkebash nova_node.sh14:08
JordanRinkeerr mt14:08
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creihtJordanRinke: what is your zone question?14:11
JordanRinkei was curious if I should zone 1 per box or 1 per device across boxes14:11
creihtHow many boxes?14:12
JordanRinkejust 514:12
creihtthen I would do one per box14:12
JordanRinkei ended up making each box a zone14:12
JordanRinkecool14:12
creihtahh good14:12
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JordanRinkethe install doc was pretty solid14:15
creihtcool thanks! :)14:16
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JordanRinkethe zone was the only thing I had a Q on14:16
JordanRinkehad it all up and tested in about an hour14:17
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exltdear quiet conference attendees, please, post "blah discussion is starting - http://link.to.discussion.etherpad/xxxx" so remote folks can better follow along  :^)14:43
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creihtjoshuamckenty: We may want to tweak some of the configs to better uitilize the hardware15:00
creihtthat was meant for jordan15:00
creihtauto-complete fail15:00
joshuamckentynp15:01
pvoexlt: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/openstack-devel/+spec/bexar-dev-community starting now. now etherpad link yet.15:02
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pvonow/no15:02
exlt:)15:03
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vishyJordanRinke: you can change an individual projects quota through nova-manage e.g. nova-manage project quota <project> instances 20015:04
vishythen cores 400 or something15:04
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pvohttp://etherpad.openstack.org/BexarDevCommunity15:05
vishyhypervisors starting -- http://etherpad.openstack.org/multi-hypervisor15:05
pikenmorning15:07
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ranjibneed some help on nova networking with FlatManager15:09
ranjibanybody using  flatmanager?15:09
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Davieythis is nice.15:45
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rsampaiohi there15:51
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rsampaiois there any specific reason to use rabbitmq with nova?15:51
rsampaioI'm wondering if zeromq would work15:52
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jaypipesrsampaio: we use carrot, so yes, you can use ZeroMQ (https://github.com/ask/carrot/#readme)16:03
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jaypipesrsampaio: though, be warned, I don't think that's tested much yet :)16:03
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rsampaiojaypipes: right, I agree, it is just to try to minimize the dependency list16:04
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EdwinGrubbshttps://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/ImportingTemplates16:15
sophiapis there a list of all the etherpads for the summit?16:15
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gholtI think they're just a list of blueprints, with etherpad links for each on the blueprint page itself.16:19
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gholtre: Swift multi-region-replication and reduced-redundancy: Doing a ring selection on container create doesn't seem to be quite working out (in my mind). I'm thinking the selection would really need to be indicated in the container name itself.16:21
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gholtWell, really not the container name necessarily, but in the path somewhere.16:33
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annegentleexit: I'm trying to put Etherpad links in http://wiki.openstack.org/BexarDeveloperTopics but I'm not catching them all, sorry :)16:41
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exltannegentle: appreciated :)16:45
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pikenfinally, corp partnership/contributing has been approved by legal here. They will start the submission to openstack today17:01
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annegentlepiken: congrats! that's awesome.17:05
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jeremyb<+notmyname> your containers are locked down pretty tight by default, so there isn't a need to further lock them down after writing to them (IMO)17:15
jeremybnotmyname: can you clarify to be sure i understand? I wanted to make containers read only once i'm sure i'll never write to it again17:15
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jeremybis it even possible to do a read only container? i see ACLs are for users or referrers but didn't see read vs. write17:16
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notmynameno17:17
jeremybnot possible?17:17
notmynamethe account owner will always be able to write to the container17:17
jeremybok, so i need to either do writes and reads both as someone else (not owner, more expensive i think) or i need to move between accounts17:18
jeremybis it possible to have a container readable but not writeable? (for a specific user)17:19
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* jeremyb will bbl17:23
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sophiapmobileAre the speaker presentations for the summit posted somewhere?17:28
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zaitcevsophiapmobile: Regarding your earlier question wrt. etherpads. I think it's possible to identify blueprints proposed for Bexar, and then typically blueprint links to etherpad.17:29
zaitcevArgh17:29
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pikengod, this stupid network issue is pissing me off. Still can't get it working17:31
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pikenoh, and ranjib, there is a few steps you need to add to your nova.sh for centos517:32
aliguoriis there a central place that enumerates all of the etherpad urls (other than the agenda)?17:32
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pikenthe losetup on centos5 does not support the --show option that is needed so need to build new autoconf, automake, gtk-doc, and util-linux-ng17:32
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pikenaliguori: 11:41:18 <annegentle> exit: I'm trying to put Etherpad links in http://wiki.openstack.org/BexarDeveloperTopics but I'm not catching them all, sorry :)18:10
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xtoddxWhats the difference in https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/common-module-loading and https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/backend-imports and why are both being discussed at the summti?19:35
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vishypiken: i think the centos5 version supports -s, you could alternatively just submit a patch to change the call in disk.py to use -s19:42
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vishypiken: hmm, nevermind it doesn't look like there is a short version of show19:45
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pikenvishy: I got around that problem on the centos node by compiling util-linux-ng 2.18 :)20:21
pikenI am still not sure on the ubuntu node why I can't ssh into the node though.20:22
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pikenThat one is the only annoyance left.20:22
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sorenpiken: Did you work out your httperror problem?20:56
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sandywalshHi! N00b here. I'm following http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallFromSource and getting http://paste.openstack.org/show/98/ ... do I now need to create a default volume group?21:01
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pikensoren: yeah. It was due to a setting for urllib where it catches its own exceptions.21:03
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pikenhmmm, http://paste.openstack.org/show/99/ any ideas21:04
devcamcarpiken: looks maybe like you have the wrong version of lockfile?21:05
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pikenI have 0.8, what is the needed?21:05
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pikenI know 0.9 and 0.9.1 had issues due to changes like python-daemon did with 1.621:05
devcamcartools/pip-requires shows 0.821:05
devcamcarlockfile==0.821:05
devcamcarso i guess that's not it :(21:06
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devcamcarmaybe you have a version other than 0.8 still bouncing around somewhere21:06
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sandywalshpiken, for example: http://code.google.com/p/cloud-team/source/browse/trunk/script/daemon/pidlockfile.py?r=321:09
pikenI just blew away python 2.6's site-packages and I am reinstalling what I need to make sure there are no left overs.21:10
pikenhere is the easy install list I am using21:11
pikentwisted sqlalchemy mox greenlet carrot python-daemon==1.5 eventlet tornado IPy  routes  lxml MySQL-python webob boto lockfile==0.821:11
MarkAtwoodfor the folks here at the OpenStack Design Conference in San Antonio, there is a Eucalyptus party at the Crowne Plaza Presidential Suite, Rm 416, starting at 6pm21:11
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gravenhi there21:35
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pikenok, there is an issue python-daemon 1.5 and lockfile 0.8 do not work for some reason as there is a call to TimeoutPIDLockFile which is only in python-daemon 1.6, but there is not pidlockfile.py in 1.6 so we can't import with the from daemon import pidlockfile as we do21:39
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pikenif we go to lockfile 0.9.1 and python-daemon 1.6 we get TimeoutPIDLockFile, but no pidlockfile.py, it is instead in lockfile/pidlockfile.py causing from daemon import pidlockfile to break.21:41
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_0x44jaypipes: Is there a blueprint for pulling common into openstack-common?21:43
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jaypipes_0x44: workin on it :)21:46
_0x44jaypipes: Working on a blueprint or working on getting it done?21:47
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jaypipes_0x44: both21:57
_0x44jaypipes: Awesome sauce. Buy yourself a beer for me. ;)21:57
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graveni'd love to take a look at the blueprint when available22:00
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_0x44graven: If it's anything like the glance s3 blueprint the work is already done. :S22:02
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graven:]22:03
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uvirtbotNew bug: #673756 in nova "Attach volume sometimes incorrectly reports success" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67375622:11
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gravenis there a blueprint for LXC support? can't find one23:24
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sorengraven: There is. Hang on.23:29
sorengraven: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bexar-nova-containers23:29
graventhanks23:31
graveni was hoping for etherpad or something23:31
graveni missed the session today and was wondering about the results23:31
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ttxgravehttp://etherpad.openstack.org/LXCcontainers23:43
ttxoops23:43
ttxtoo late23:43
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