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| piken | Morning all | 13:31 |
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| jeevan_ullas | evening piken | 13:32 |
| piken | where are you located that it is evening? | 13:32 |
| piken | lol | 13:32 |
| ranjib | piken:lolz.. this is 7 pm here. in pune , india | 13:38 |
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| patri0t | hey, anyone knows about this openssl.cnf problem? | 14:06 |
| patri0t | nova-api and nova-objectstore are running | 14:06 |
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| piken | ranjib: you take a look at my blueprint for the install system yet? | 14:42 |
| piken | feedback would be nice. I have a lot more to add to my spec wiki page today | 14:42 |
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| piken | Is there a way on launchpad to access a raw file in a branch directly from a browser as you can in github? | 15:10 |
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| chmouel | patri0t: what kind of problem ? | 15:16 |
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| doude | Hi | 15:37 |
| doude | I've got some troubles to use Nova with the flat network configuration | 15:38 |
| doude | can you help me ? | 15:38 |
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| notmyname | creiht: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/s3-hail | 15:47 |
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| annegentle | doude: do you mind detailing your question in answers.launchpad.net/nova? That way others can benefit. Is your similar to https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/129521? | 15:54 |
| creiht | notmyname: yes, I'm aware of it | 15:57 |
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| doude | annegentle: No it's not similar to https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/129521 | 16:03 |
| doude | I put the flag --network_manager=nova.network.manager.FlatManager in my configuration file | 16:03 |
| doude | and I configure the network with nova-manage | 16:03 |
| doude | but I don't understand how to associate this networkt to a bridge | 16:04 |
| doude | when I try to instanciate a VM, I've got this error : "No network for bridge br100" | 16:05 |
| doude | If I modify the db and but br100 to the network db entry, I can instanciate the VM | 16:06 |
| doude | I forget a flag configuration ? | 16:06 |
| doude | I tried to use the flag "--flat_network_bridge" but it doesn't care | 16:07 |
| annegentle | doude: ah, okay. Let's ping vishy to see if he can help. We're working on auto-generating FLAGS doc. | 16:08 |
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| annegentle | vishy: ping, question about flat networking | 16:08 |
| doude | ok thanks | 16:08 |
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| annegentle | doude: he may be traveling, our design summit starts tomorrow (woo!), so you might want to put it in Answers for the time being. | 16:09 |
| doude | yes, no problem. It's not urgent | 16:09 |
| doude | I'll create a question on launchpad | 16:10 |
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| doude | have a good summit | 16:10 |
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| BK_man | hi all | 16:16 |
| BK_man | does anybody knows where to download missing reqs for Nova for RHEL6 Beta? | 16:16 |
| BK_man | rabbitmq, python-mox, etc? | 16:16 |
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| piken | You have to build most and use easy-install for the python ones as there is no external repo like epel for rhel6 yet | 16:17 |
| piken | you will have issues with M2Crypto as the c code from it that builds has problems on rhel6 beta unless they have been fixed in the repo yet. | 16:18 |
| BK_man | piken: I'm a Perl guy. Does Python have a CPAN-like repo where I can download needed modules and install them? | 16:18 |
| notmyname | BK_man: pypi | 16:18 |
| BK_man | piken: I have Beta2 refresh installed. | 16:18 |
| notmyname | BK_man: http://pypi.python.org/pypi | 16:18 |
| BK_man | notmyname: thanks! | 16:19 |
| piken | pypi is used by easy-install to install external packages | 16:19 |
| piken | should be in the python-distribute package in the yum repo | 16:19 |
| BK_man | piken: I think it working - just installed mox | 16:20 |
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| piken | Do you guys think the unified installer for nova should have an option to log to a file. | 17:29 |
| BK_man | piken: definitely should | 17:29 |
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| piken | I am just not sure if it is worth it when output could be redirected | 17:30 |
| BK_man | piken: it would be helpful for guys like me who is trying to install nova on some non-standard platforms like RHEL at the moment :-) | 17:30 |
| piken | Not really as the errors would be on stdout | 17:31 |
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| BK_man | piken: there is an EPEL for RHEL6! http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/beta/6/x86_64/ | 17:44 |
| BK_man | piken: what version of M2Crypto have issues? Mine have 0.20.2-6 installed | 17:47 |
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| piken | 20.2-5 had the issue | 18:02 |
| piken | that epel repo is very limited and still has a lot of packages that are not built for rhel6 yet. | 18:03 |
| piken | (they are rhel5 builds) | 18:03 |
| BK_man | piken: ok. I have no problem running nova-manage - it can't locate webob.dec | 18:03 |
| BK_man | piken: and easy_install can't find it also. | 18:04 |
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| BK_man | piken: line 24 in nova/api/__init__.py | 18:05 |
| BK_man | am I missed some package in my sandbox installation? | 18:06 |
| piken | hmm, sec | 18:08 |
| BK_man | piken: np, I will wait | 18:08 |
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| piken | http://pypi.python.org/simple/WebOb/ | 18:10 |
| piken | it is WebOb for easy install | 18:10 |
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| BK_man | piken: Oh. It's case-sentive! :-( | 18:23 |
| BK_man | piken: wrong | 18:24 |
| BK_man | piken: it's already installed | 18:24 |
| BK_man | piken: version 0.9.6.1 - but nova-manage still fails | 18:25 |
| BK_man | got it. It's beta version, nova needs 0.9.8 :( | 18:27 |
| Abd4llA | hi guys, is it recommended to install nova on a specific arch ? 32/64? | 18:29 |
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| JordanRinke | Anyone alive in here? | 19:44 |
| piken | maybe | 19:44 |
| JordanRinke | ok, so the next question then... anyone have experience setting up openstack on multiple servers, and or using swift/glance as the image store? | 19:45 |
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| piken | look in the wiki. There is docs on multi-server setups for nova and swift. | 19:46 |
| JordanRinke | yeah... they need some work | 19:46 |
| piken | Glance is still really really really young with no documentation or proven functionalitiy at the moment | 19:46 |
| annegentle | JordanRinke: heh, start editing :) | 19:46 |
| piken | The multi server is not that bad. If followed it works well. | 19:47 |
| JordanRinke | annegentle: yeah, totally on the to do list per our emails earlier :-D | 19:47 |
| JordanRinke | piken: the problem we had with it is that there are 2 sets of instructions | 19:47 |
| JordanRinke | one based off pulling a branch, and one based off using the PPA | 19:47 |
| JordanRinke | some commands do/don't work in each and as a wise man once said | 19:47 |
| JordanRinke | dont cross the streams | 19:47 |
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| piken | The ppa ones should be the only mutliserver install ones on the wiki | 19:50 |
| piken | The other was removed some time ago | 19:50 |
| JordanRinke | but the link to the etherpad is up :-D | 19:50 |
| piken | Then to complain about it not working when it is old and outdated is not helpful. lol | 19:50 |
| JordanRinke | sorry, I don't mean to complain... simply stating where I am right now | 19:51 |
| JordanRinke | also, the current mutliserver instructions dont actually state how to start it once you pull in the PPA | 19:51 |
| piken | ahh, take another look. They leave it in a state with the compute node and the manage node up and running, ready to take api calls from a tool like euca-tools to install a vm. | 19:52 |
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| JordanRinke | yeah, I see that in the last 2 lines - what about volume/object store etc? | 19:53 |
| JordanRinke | I do appreciate the help/resonse btw... incase my bitching doesn't fully relay that ;-D | 19:55 |
| piken | You do realize the compute cluster has nothing to do with the object store | 19:55 |
| piken | That is swift. You have to set that up seperately. | 19:55 |
| piken | Nova is just the cloud manager and compute nodes. | 19:56 |
| JordanRinke | yeah, we have a 5 server cluster setup running it | 19:56 |
| JordanRinke | and now I have these 36 servers I am trying to get compute/manage setup on | 19:56 |
| JordanRinke | i am taking a step back right now to figure out where I am, we have been working on it a lot over the last 2 days - I may have gone a bit down the rabbit hole | 19:57 |
| piken | as long as you have followed the install for swift and for nova, and set --s3_host on the compute nodes you would have a working object store they can reach. | 19:58 |
| JordanRinke | and the s3 config is my swift proxy right? | 19:59 |
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| piken | correct | 20:00 |
| JordanRinke | ok, let me walk these configs and make sure I have this setup correctly... one question while I do that.. | 20:01 |
| JordanRinke | I create the network, go in mysql and set the bridge, but even after I modify the dhcp_start address to a higher value to protect my static systems | 20:02 |
| JordanRinke | all the isntances still start at the bottom of the range .2 and I have tried restarting compute/manage | 20:02 |
| JordanRinke | I even tried injecting the changes after I did network create before even running compute/manage | 20:02 |
| JordanRinke | thoughts? | 20:02 |
| piken | which network manager are you using? | 20:04 |
| piken | FlatManager? | 20:04 |
| JordanRinke | yeah, I was looking for a list of available ones to see if that was my problem | 20:04 |
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| piken | Flat, VLAN, DHCP | 20:04 |
| piken | I am not sure what is happening there. Ops here has been doing the network work with FLat, I have just be doing dev. lol | 20:05 |
| JordanRinke | I found some more info on the flat network there is something that looks like I can specify a list of IPs | 20:06 |
| JordanRinke | I will try it, it might be dirty to list 230 ips but if it works I am ok with that while I figure out how to do it right | 20:06 |
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| JordanRinke | i will try that in a moment, although so far it seems nova has ignored the networking stuff in the configs and used the db exclusively | 20:07 |
| JordanRinke | I really need to walk the code and learn the source I just didn't have much time this go around | 20:07 |
| piken | Vishy, Cole, ranjib: you guys around? | 20:10 |
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| piken | I am about to update my blueprint for the unified installer, and want to take a last minute poll as to stick with shell based access to things like apt/yum, or go python module based to them. | 20:10 |
| JordanRinke | I know I am just a random dude but having experienced a bunch of install related issues lately... having it use shell commands makes it easier for an infrastructure admin to read/understand and hack at it - just my thoughts | 20:13 |
| JordanRinke | on the flip side, it also makes it easier to go down the wrong path pretty quick lol | 20:14 |
| KnightHacker | piken: what's the current consensus on it so far? | 20:15 |
| piken | KnightHacker: Haven't gotten a consensus because no one will answer me. lol | 20:16 |
| piken | I think no one is here toda. | 20:16 |
| piken | s/toda/today | 20:16 |
| JordanRinke | traveling for the summit tomorrow? | 20:16 |
| piken | I think so | 20:16 |
| JordanRinke | or... trying to get a bunch of servers setup for it :-D | 20:17 |
| piken | I have worked out a nice dynamic importer for things like python-apt or python-yum if they are used, but I need to work out a way to pull in extra classes for a distro specific install if we do it that way. | 20:17 |
| piken | I think it would be cleaner in the long run though. | 20:17 |
| KnightHacker | Yup :). Well, I think using shell based access is going to be more appealing to ops folks. | 20:18 |
| piken | That is where the pains come in. | 20:20 |
| KnightHacker | Agreed :). From a developer perspective, I'd rather use python modules. | 20:21 |
| KnightHacker | And I don't think it is gonna be hard pulling classes for a distro specific install. | 20:21 |
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| piken | I think doing it as python modules and using urllib2 to pull in new classes we need and then use the dynamic importer to load them. | 20:22 |
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| piken | That way the manifest can list a class to handle the distro specific install methods. | 20:22 |
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| JordanRinke | well I mean in theory, if it works without issue, ops folks shouldn't have to crack it open so long term sustainability would win that argument right? | 20:25 |
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| JordanRinke | alright, I am giong to wipe this server and try it again, nice and simple like | 20:26 |
| piken | JordanRinke: that is my goal. It is a unified installer for nova that has the distro specific parts seperate from the core of the installer and pulled in only when needed. | 20:34 |
| piken | I want it to work for as many distros as it can, and eventually be generic enough that we can add a flag for nova or swift allowing it to install either. But one thing at a time. | 20:35 |
| JordanRinke | very nice | 20:36 |
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| JordanRinke | I am going to follow these instructions to the letter (except one command that I know is wrong) and see what I end up with | 20:38 |
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| JordanRinke | ok, I am going to assume it is missing, the multi server instructions don't say to install nova-compute | 20:49 |
| JordanRinke | also looks like the PPA is pulling 2011.1 release - not the stable austin and I don't see it in the package list | 20:50 |
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| piken | hmm, that is weird | 21:24 |
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| JordanRinke | anyone tell me which service listed for 8337? | 21:42 |
| JordanRinke | listens* | 21:43 |
| JordanRinke | interesting | 21:44 |
| JordanRinke | I run nova-compute start | 21:44 |
| JordanRinke | it starts and instantly fails :/ | 21:44 |
| JordanRinke | ah i see | 21:44 |
| JordanRinke | missing a file libvirt.rescue.qemu.xml.template | 21:45 |
| JordanRinke | anyone know where that might be? I searched the box, and all of the packages in the PPA it isn't listed anywhere | 21:47 |
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| JordanRinke | found it in the branch | 21:50 |
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| creiht | JordanRinke: I think most people are in transit to SA for the summit :) | 21:52 |
| JordanRinke | yeah, I suspect so... but if I just talk to an empty room it is a good notepad and at least there is a chance someone might respond lol | 21:53 |
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| JordanRinke | err 8773 for that port | 21:58 |
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| JordanRinke | ok, so I have swift running on some servers, and I have nova on some others... not sure where the nova-objectstore comes in to play | 22:16 |
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| JordanRinke | i am at a loss as to how to integrate nova to use swifth as the objectstore | 22:21 |
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| elasticdog | I'm admittedly a complete cloud n00b...I have both the swift and nova development environments all set up and running, but don't know where to go from there. Are there any good articles/tools I should look at and experiment with to learn how things fit together and can be used? | 22:38 |
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