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| ryansb | \o | 00:15 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: how ya' doing? | 00:15 |
| ryansb | pretty good | 00:16 |
| ryansb | hoooot though. 94 farenheit and 80% humidity one of the days | 00:17 |
| flaper87 | iiiiiiiiiuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhh | 00:18 |
| flaper87 | I believe back home it's around that too :( | 00:18 |
| ryansb | ew. I prefer buffalo's temperate 25 C | 00:20 |
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| flwang | flaper87: still around? | 01:45 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes | 01:45 |
| flaper87 | flwang: still in AU TZ | 01:45 |
| flaper87 | leaving tomorrow | 01:46 |
| flwang | flaper87: a quick question about the sqlalchemy driver | 01:53 |
| flaper87 | flwang: shoot | 01:53 |
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| flwang | for now, i'm using sqlalchemy as the control plane driver, seems zaqar will create the queue on the control plane database, does that work as designed? | 01:53 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes, that's one of the reasons we decided to split it | 01:54 |
| flaper87 | Keep the queue's in the control plane and the actual data somewhere else | 01:54 |
| flaper87 | Queue's shouldn't be created always | 01:54 |
| flwang | teh actual data == message? | 01:54 |
| flaper87 | the cases when you need a queue create is when you want a specific flavor for it | 01:55 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes | 01:55 |
| flaper87 | otherwise, the storage should be able to group the messages without any queue existing in the control plane | 01:55 |
| flwang | ok, for this case, can i keep the pooling=False? | 01:57 |
| flwang | so the architecture is like sql(control plane) -> mongo (data plane) but no pooling | 01:58 |
| flaper87 | flwang: for what case? | 01:59 |
| flaper87 | You can keep pooling=Flase if you don't need it | 01:59 |
| flaper87 | eventually, I'd like to make pooling always required. It seems saner and more consistent | 02:00 |
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| flaper87 | and it provides a better story for users that want to expand Zaqar | 02:00 |
| flwang | flaper87: i asked because in my case, there is 503 error | 02:01 |
| flaper87 | what does the error say? | 02:01 |
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| flaper87 | Note that some drivers are not playing nice with stores being in a different store | 02:02 |
| flaper87 | There's a bug filed for that | 02:02 |
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| flwang1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/410414/ | 02:04 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: yup, you hit the bug I mentioned | 02:09 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: :( | 02:09 |
| flwang | hah | 02:10 |
| flaper87 | I think you proposed a patch to fix part of it but there's more to fix, apparently | 02:10 |
| flaper87 | we need to fix that before the release and hopefully backport the patch | 02:10 |
| flaper87 | I'll see what I can do on my flight back, I should have enough time to fix it | 02:10 |
| flwang | ok, i will search the bug id and see what i can do | 02:10 |
| flwang | flaper87: it would be nice | 02:11 |
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| flwang | flaper87: as for this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202355/1/zaqar/notification/notifier.py | 02:11 |
| flwang | the reason why I hesitate to use stevedore is the performance risk | 02:12 |
| flaper87 | there's no really a performance risk. Stevedore caches modules once they're loaded | 02:12 |
| flwang | flaper87: if we go for stevefore, then we can get the task instance at line 62 | 02:12 |
| flaper87 | if that really worries you, you can create a local cache of the loaded module | 02:12 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, if so all good. I have workout the code actually | 02:12 |
| flwang | i will submit it today | 02:13 |
| flaper87 | flwang: A.W.E.S.O.M.E | 02:13 |
| flwang | flaper87: do you know what's the policy for horizon integration? | 02:14 |
| flwang | flaper87: i mean is it acceptable to create a panel in horizon code tree for zaqar? | 02:15 |
| flaper87 | flwang: I've no idea :/ | 02:16 |
| flaper87 | I'd say yes but with no bases | 02:16 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, no worries | 02:18 |
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| flwang | flaper87: would you mind me asking a glance question at here? | 02:24 |
| flwang1 | i asked the same question to nikhil and romastia, and i didn't get response from nikhil and romastia didn't workout a conclusion | 02:27 |
| flwang1 | the question is when user create an image by nova snapshot for a volume backed instance | 02:27 |
| flwang1 | then delete it with nova or glance, the result is the image is gone, but the snapshot volume is still keeping in cinder | 02:28 |
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| flaper87 | yes | 02:31 |
| flaper87 | The image would be gone but the volume stays | 02:31 |
| flaper87 | They are separate resources | 02:31 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: ^ | 02:31 |
| flwang | flaper87: so you think it works as designed? | 02:32 |
| flwang | but the snapshot is the image data of the image, isn't it? | 02:32 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes but it also depends on the storage engine | 02:33 |
| flaper87 | for example, you can create a snapshot in rbd without copying al the data (because it's a copy on write) but if you then delete the volume, it'll flatten the snapshot and copy the data | 02:33 |
| flwang | so you think it won't confuse the end user? | 02:34 |
| flwang | a possible case is user snapshot many times and delete them from glance, but finally, they will find their cinder quota is exceeded | 02:35 |
| flaper87 | I think it's expected and users know that. IMHO | 02:37 |
| flaper87 | the instance is still running | 02:37 |
| flaper87 | And the data will be used until you stop the instance | 02:37 |
| flaper87 | Once the instance is terminated then your quota will be freed | 02:37 |
| flaper87 | cinder quota, that is. | 02:37 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok. i will send a note to mail list to get some feedback | 02:38 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: sounds good, better get a broader opinion | 02:38 |
| flwang | flaper87: maybe i'm too old, for now, if query a nonexist queue, it always returns 200, is that correct? | 02:43 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes because queues are lazy, by default the queue exists | 02:45 |
| flaper87 | flwang: it shouldn't return 200 in v1, IIRC | 02:45 |
| flaper87 | but in v1.1 and v2 it's fine | 02:45 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok. fair enough | 02:46 |
| flwang | flaper87: back to the 503 error, i think it's a similar issue i fixed for subscription, the root cause is the mongo/messages.py is calling _inc_counter of queue controller, but both sqlalchemy and redis don't support that method | 02:47 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: yeah, I think I fixed that somewhere but then I lost the changes | 02:49 |
| flaper87 | :( | 02:49 |
| flwang | flaper87: that said, currently zaqar only works with mongo+mongo | 02:50 |
| flwang | :( | 02:50 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yeah, until that bug is fixed, I'm afraid this is true :( | 02:51 |
| flaper87 | will get to it soon | 02:51 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, just let me know if you need any help | 02:52 |
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| flwang | flaper87: did you notice that the zaqar unit test won't clean the test database quickly? | 05:04 |
| flwang | as a result, it will eat my disk space quickly | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: Add a websocket example https://review.openstack.org/207349 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Refactor notification framework https://review.openstack.org/202355 | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Add email driver for notification https://review.openstack.org/202374 | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/zaqar: Set auth_strategy in devstack https://review.openstack.org/206947 | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/zaqar: Add configuration to run service using uwsgi https://review.openstack.org/202432 | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Make false as default for `unreliable` https://review.openstack.org/199824 | 10:15 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: mind fixing that? | 11:35 |
| flaper87 | :) | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Policy support https://review.openstack.org/209910 | 12:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doraly Navarro proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: wip: Added support to notifications https://review.openstack.org/209238 | 13:06 |
| therve | flaper87, Am I missing something regarding the unreliable conf? | 13:13 |
| therve | https://review.openstack.org/199824 seems broken to me | 13:13 |
| ryansb | therve: what seems broken? | 13:13 |
| therve | ryansb, The default value of unreliable is set to False, but the app doesn't start when it's False? | 13:14 |
| therve | Or at least that's how it looks to me | 13:14 |
| * ryansb will re-review | 13:14 | |
| ryansb | oh, looks like I haven't reviewed that one at all | 13:18 |
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| flaper87 | therve: jumping into a call in 10 | 13:21 |
| flaper87 | will take a look soon | 13:21 |
| therve | No worries | 13:21 |
| therve | I'll comment | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: Notifications over websocket https://review.openstack.org/206080 | 13:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doraly Navarro proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: wip: Added support to notifications https://review.openstack.org/209238 | 15:23 |
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| exploreshaifali | vkmc, \o/ | 16:28 |
| exploreshaifali | does zaqar is integrated with other components of openstack, other than keystone? | 16:29 |
| ryansb | soon (tm) it will talk to swift | 16:30 |
| ryansb | right now I think the only other service it uses is keystone | 16:30 |
| exploreshaifali | ryansb, also zaqar is integrating with heat right? | 16:32 |
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| ryansb | well, heat is getting the ability to send things via zaqar | 16:32 |
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| ryansb | so that's a heat->zaqar integration. Zaqar doesn't use anything from heat | 16:33 |
| ryansb | also heat has resources to create zaqar queues and such | 16:33 |
| ryansb | though now that topics are lazy that's...not as handy | 16:33 |
| exploreshaifali | ryansb, okay! | 16:35 |
| exploreshaifali | also there is no plan of zaqar on horizon? | 16:35 |
| exploreshaifali | ryansb, ^ | 16:35 |
| ryansb | ¯\_ツ_/¯ you'll have to ask someone else. I don't use horizon. | 16:36 |
| exploreshaifali | okay, thanks ryansb | 16:38 |
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| cpallares | exploreshaifali: There was a project a couple of cycles back to integrate horizon with zaqar | 17:27 |
| cpallares | exploreshaifali: but it wasn't completed | 17:28 |
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