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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/201926 | 06:06 |
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| flaper87 | LOL | 06:08 |
| flaper87 | flaqar sounds good! :P | 06:08 |
| flaper87 | what's sup folks? | 06:08 |
| flaper87 | I'm almost fully back | 06:09 |
| flaper87 | I'm in conference mode now | 06:09 |
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| exploreshaifali | I want to know how zaqar is different from message brokers like RabitMQ, ZMQ etc, I got to know that zaqar work as bridge between these message brokers and client | 09:35 |
| exploreshaifali | but it help client/developers by that? | 09:35 |
| exploreshaifali | *by being bridge | 09:36 |
| therve | zaqar is not a bridge with these brokers | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/zaqar: Fix enabling of Zaqar in Devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/203984 | 09:46 |
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| exploreshaifali | okay, it is written that it work as bridge between the clients and one or more backend | 09:49 |
| exploreshaifali | but how it is different from message brokers? | 09:50 |
| exploreshaifali | like RabitMQ | 09:50 |
| therve | Mostly, it's OpenStack multi-tenant | 09:50 |
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| exploreshaifali | therve, by multi-tenant means that it can support multiple projects at the same time? | 09:51 |
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| therve | Yeah | 09:52 |
| therve | Stored in keystone | 09:52 |
| exploreshaifali | like serving multiple projects by same queue | 09:52 |
| therve | No, like having different queues in different tenants | 09:54 |
| exploreshaifali | okay, but the same one can have with RabbitMQ too? | 09:56 |
| therve | Those projects can't be in keystone | 09:57 |
| exploreshaifali | hmm... make sense | 09:58 |
| exploreshaifali | so does that mean that Zaqar can replace other message brokers? | 09:58 |
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| therve | It can. It's different approach in terms of API and storage, so it depends what you need | 10:00 |
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| exploreshaifali | therve, but in few videos(published in 2013) that talk about zaqar, presenter mentions that Zaqar is not intended to replace other message brokers | 10:04 |
| therve | exploreshaifali, Right. It can replace them, it's just not the goal. | 10:05 |
| exploreshaifali | okay. therve Thanks :) | 10:08 |
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| flaper87 | exploreshaifali: that was probably me | 10:18 |
| flaper87 | :D | 10:18 |
| exploreshaifali | flaper87, haha yes! :D | 10:19 |
| flaper87 | it's not meant to replace message brokers when the performance is the main requirement | 10:19 |
| flaper87 | I mean, it can, it just won't work well for cases like everything else in software | 10:19 |
| exploreshaifali | okay! | 10:20 |
| exploreshaifali | also flaper87 how scalability works in Zaqar? | 10:20 |
| exploreshaifali | I think scalability is the main thing that is different in Zaqar than other message brokers | 10:21 |
| exploreshaifali | btw, its good to see you back flaper87 :) | 10:21 |
| flaper87 | exploreshaifali: mmh, not necessarily. The API is different | 10:24 |
| flaper87 | exploreshaifali: The way you'd scale zaqar is by adding more zaqar-server | 10:25 |
| exploreshaifali | yes, as therve mentioned, it is openstack multi-tenant | 10:25 |
| exploreshaifali | ok | 10:25 |
| flaper87 | you need to take care of scaling the storage | 10:25 |
| flaper87 | which is probably the hard part | 10:25 |
| flaper87 | the good thing is that zaqar's API is supposed to be atomic | 10:25 |
| exploreshaifali | hmm and scaling mongodb is not hard thing | 10:25 |
| flaper87 | or as much as possible | 10:26 |
| flaper87 | exploreshaifali: it's not supposed to be hard :P | 10:26 |
| exploreshaifali | flaper87, so in what sense RabbitMQ is not atomic? | 10:27 |
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| flaper87 | exploreshaifali: I'm not saying rabbitmq is not atomic. What I said is that adding more zaqar-servers shouldn't be a problem because of that | 10:30 |
| exploreshaifali | okay! | 10:34 |
| exploreshaifali | and other main difference is transferring protocol we use http calls and websocket | 10:35 |
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| exploreshaifali | flaper87, ^ right? | 10:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/zaqar: Update README https://review.openstack.org/199068 | 22:01 |
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