Tuesday, 2014-12-16

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vkmcmorning!11:26
vkmcflaper87, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud11:28
vkmcflaper87, thanks for the update in the wire transport protocol wiki... I was wondering if we could do that :) it certainly makes more sense11:29
jasondotstarwow you guys are up early :-)11:47
jasondotstarunless you're not stateside....11:47
vkmchey jasondotstar :)11:48
jasondotstarhowdy11:48
vkmcnot so early here... and probably for flaper87 is lunchtime heh11:51
vkmcjasondotstar, are you based in the states?11:51
jasondotstaryes11:51
jasondotstareast coast.11:51
vkmccool :)11:51
vkmcwell... we probably are in a similar tz11:51
jasondotstarI work for Cisco. OpenStack engineer11:51
vkmcI'm based in Argentina, I'm in GMT -311:52
jasondotstargood food, argentina11:52
jasondotstar:-)11:52
vkmchaha yes, steak!11:52
jasondotstargreat for carnivores, so i hear11:52
jasondotstarlol11:52
vkmclol11:52
vkmcwell... the states have greeeeat steak as well11:53
vkmclast time I visited I had a great time11:53
flaper87g0000000000000000d morning11:54
flaper87:)11:54
jasondotstarmornin11:54
vkmctalking about steak11:54
vkmcheeeeeeey flaper8711:54
flaper87jasondotstar: morning :)11:54
jasondotstarmakes me hungry11:54
jasondotstaralmost time for coffee11:54
vkmcme too... I shouldn't, I just had breakfast11:55
flaper87vkmc: you don't drink coffee right after breakfast?11:55
jasondotstaror DURING11:55
jasondotstar:-)11:55
vkmclol11:55
flaper87I drink morning coffee like smokers smoke cigarettes11:55
flaper87That is, before, during and after11:55
vkmcwell... Argentinians drink other stuff11:56
jasondotstarsmoking DURING eating? that's hardcore..... beast mode.11:56
vkmcI usually have coffee after that though11:56
vkmclol11:56
flaper87If i don't sniff^Wsmell coffee before, during and after breakfast my morning simply won't start11:56
flaper87jasondotstar: there's people that do that11:56
flaper87:/11:56
jasondotstarflaper87:  seen it in movies11:56
jasondotstarwhich means it's true. :-)11:57
jasondotstar+1 on the effects of coffee aromas to the sensory11:57
vkmclol http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kramer-smoke-drink.gif11:57
vkmcyou made me think about this11:57
jasondotstardamn! lol11:58
jasondotstarrough day for kramer i guess11:58
jasondotstarlol11:58
vkmclol yeah11:58
jasondotstarwell time to wake up the house.....12:00
jasondotstarI'll be back on in a bit....worked on my vagrant dev environment for zaqar12:01
jasondotstarso far so good....12:01
vkmc:D kewl!12:01
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vkmcso... flaper87, re https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/specs/Protocols/Wire_Transport12:02
vkmcthought we were going to make it as similar as HTTP as possible12:03
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flaper87vkmc: what's different besides href and action not being there?12:17
flaper87:P12:17
flaper87We  were going to use href and actions but it really isn't worth the trouble12:17
flaper87it's clearer to have precise actions instead of a combination of href+http_methods12:18
vkmcflaper87, don't get me wrong, I think its better this way12:18
vkmcI was waiting to discuss it with the team before doing such changes12:19
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vkmcwe don't store the href so it should be fine12:21
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flaper87vkmc: mmh, FWIW that schema was part of the spec12:31
flaper87and IIRC we discussed it in your design session as well12:31
flaper87OMG: https://twitter.com/flaper87/status/54483195929456640012:31
vkmcflaper87, you are right, I forgot about the schema in the spec12:32
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kragnizsomeone send hot lemon and cosy blankets13:36
kragnizpls ;_;13:36
vkmcbooo, did you catch a flu kragniz?13:37
kragnizvkmc: I did13:37
kragnizI'm coding in bed today13:37
vkmcthat's too bad13:38
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/zaqar: Use the oslo.serialization instead of openstack/common/jsonutils  https://review.openstack.org/13518713:51
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* vkmc lurks15:06
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flaper87TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO15:40
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cpallaresflaper87: o/15:46
cpallaresvkmc: o/15:47
* cpallares wonders where everybody is15:47
flaper87cpallares: o/15:48
flaper87we're all hidden15:48
vkmccpallares, \o15:48
cpallaresflaper87: hi! how are you doing?15:49
cpallaresvkmc: hi hi hi hi hi hi15:49
cpallaresvkmc: how are you?15:49
flaper87cpallares: wait, why does she get so many `hi`s and I just get 1 ?15:50
cpallaresflaper87: you got a hi!15:50
cpallares! *= 2015:50
openstackcpallares: Error: "*=" is not a valid command.15:50
cpallareslol15:50
flaper87cpallares: it is not enough15:50
flaper87ok15:50
flaper87mmh15:50
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flaper87cpallares: all good girl, you?15:50
vkmccpallares, good good :) having fun with mysql wohoo, you?15:51
cpallaresflaper87: I'm mad at the weather here, but it doesn't seem to care :(15:51
flaper87cpallares: is it rainy ?15:52
cpallaresflaper87: coooooooooold15:52
* vkmc sends some sunshine to cpallares 15:52
cpallares:)15:52
flaper87cpallares: lol15:52
cpallaresvkmc: http://nedroid.com/2012/05/honk-the-databus/15:52
flaper87it's cold here but I like it15:53
* flaper87 turned the heater off15:53
cpallaresflaper87: We need to go someplace warm for the winter :P15:53
cpallareshaha15:53
flaper87well, I haven't turned it on15:53
flaper87that's more accurate15:53
cpallaresIt must not be that cold :P15:53
flaper87hehe, well, that's not people say15:53
flaper87I just like cold15:53
flaper87BUT15:53
flaper87I do appreciate long lasting days15:54
* cpallares doesn't like the short days15:54
flaper87:P15:54
flaper87FWIW, days will start getting longer for us very soon15:54
flaper87and shorter for vkmc15:54
cpallaresflaper87: Yes :)15:54
flaper87muahahahahahha15:54
cpallareshaha15:54
vkmcflaper87, I'm going further south next week... where the sun goes down by 10pm ;)15:55
vkmchaving dinner with sunshine is just weird, but I don't care15:55
* cpallares is jealous!15:55
cpallaresvkmc: take me with you15:55
vkmccpallares, you know you have a place to crash in here :D15:56
flaper87FWIW, when it's summer here, I don't have to go anywhere to have a 10pm sunset :P15:56
vkmcflaper87, but you don't have penguins15:56
flaper87actually, to be fair, there's no "further north" from where I am15:56
flaper87vkmc: damnit, why do you always play that card ?15:56
flaper87>.>15:56
vkmc15:57
* flaper87 wants penguins15:57
cpallaresflaper87: because that card is always relevant15:57
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vkmcthat's the only thing I have haha15:58
flaper87vkmc: there's way more down there but I won't tell you because you'll use that against me15:58
flaper87>.>15:58
cpallaresflaper87: WHALES15:58
cpallaresWHALES15:58
cpallaresI WANT TO SEE WHALES15:58
vkmcloooool15:58
* cpallares WANTS TO SEE WHALES SO BAD15:58
mpanettaI wanna go to Whales so bad15:59
cpallaresguys I'm really excited about whales15:59
cpallaresin case my capslock didn't show it.15:59
mpanettacpallares: :P15:59
cpallaresmpanetta: :P15:59
vkmccpallares, you totally have to come here... whales come to breed, dunno why they like our spot haha15:59
flaper87cpallares: you're not helping, you know that. right?15:59
mpanettavkmc: Is it warm and cozy?15:59
vkmcwell, penguins do that too :o15:59
vkmcmpanetta, nope, windy and cold as hell16:00
flaper87Also, FWIW, the pacific has whales, you just have to go to cali16:00
mpanettaHah oh well16:00
mpanettaCali has seals16:00
* flaper87 saw seals and whales in cali16:00
cpallaresflaper87: I've been to both Oregon and Massachusetts and they both have whales, but I didn't get to see them :C :C :C16:01
flaper87cpallares: noooooo :(16:01
flaper87it's fun, I saw whales when I stopped for a coffee... I wasn't even planning to see whales16:01
* flaper87 is messing with cpallares16:01
flaper87:P16:01
flaper87well, what I said is true16:02
cpallareshaha16:02
vkmccpallares, http://chepatagoniahostel.com.ar/web/english/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/04/ballena-doradillo.jpg16:02
vkmcyou can high five the whale there lol16:02
* cpallares high fives the digital whale :)16:02
flaper87I'm pretty sure that picture is fake. Someone put a fake whale tail there16:02
vkmcflaper87, its not, I've been there :P16:03
flaper87I'm sure it's fake16:03
* flaper87 turns troll mode off16:03
flaper87ok, that's a cool picture16:03
flaper87and that whales is soooo close16:03
cpallaresflaper87: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DOwpLHBzFvk/maxresdefault.jpg16:03
vkmcthis is cool http://www.identidadaustral.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/16b1.jpg16:03
vkmclol cpallares16:03
flaper87I kind of feel like that whale could "jump" and smash those 2 guys16:03
flaper87it just has to come out and then smash them16:04
flaper87w/o effort16:04
cpallaresflaper87: I think that whale just wants to play. It looks little.16:04
vkmctotally16:04
flaper87cpallares: why do you have to put rainbows in all my stories ?16:04
flaper87:P16:04
* cpallares is full of rainbows and sunshine and unicorns16:05
cpallareswell not sunshine16:05
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cpallaressince it's winter16:05
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vkmcits quite dangerous sometimes... I've been surfing there and you can find sea lions16:05
vkmcall over the place16:06
cpallaresvkmc: that whale also looks little16:06
cpallaresvkmc: are sea lions dangerous?16:06
vkmcyeap, its a eehm.. cachalote (whale pup)16:06
* cpallares has never seen wildlife except for rattle snakes, owls, and desert rabbits :P16:06
flaper87cpallares: you know turtles are not consider "wild" right ?16:07
* flaper87 stops messing with people and gets back to nova16:07
vkmccpallares, they are like dogs... quite playful and all, but if they bite you you can have a bad time :P16:07
flaper87vkmc: Do sea lions chase balls ?16:07
cpallaresflaper87: they are too16:07
cpallaresflaper87: I've almost gotten my finger bitten off16:07
vkmcflaper87, stop playing tough and come with us to the penguin spot16:07
cpallaresflaper87: not even wildcats do that16:07
flaper87it'd be so fun to throw a stick/ball in the see and have the sea lion pick it up16:08
flaper87cpallares: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, that's probably because you had pizza on your fingers16:08
* flaper87 is full of bad jokes16:08
vkmcflaper87, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXsdLCBsSNw16:08
* flaper87 is not sure if people remember ninja turtles16:09
cpallaresflaper87: TURLES DON'T LIKE PIZZA16:09
cpallaresLOL16:09
cpallaresLOL16:09
cpallaresomg16:09
flaper87cpallares: they doooooooo https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLZGYa2u_TE3Onx9NQAfYxP_hhByClNKKOQy6kFAUPLf3B747cfLDvv_M16:09
cpallaresflaper87: Mutant ADULT ninja turtles probably don't like pizza16:11
flaper87cpallares: I'll dedicate my life to prove that statement wrong16:12
* flaper87 goes out to buy 10 turtles16:12
flaper87now, how do you mutate a turtle?16:12
* flaper87 googles that16:12
mpanettaRaaadiation!16:13
cpallareshaha16:13
flaper87mpanetta: ahh, that's a good idea16:14
* kragniz wishes there were more whales in Wales16:14
* flaper87 had seen that somewhere16:14
flaper87:P16:14
mpanettaYes Wales!  I knew I spelled it wrong...16:14
flaper87kragniz: LOL16:14
kragnizwe have dolphins16:14
kragnizso I guess that's similar16:15
vkmccuuuuuute16:15
mpanettaDo you live in Wales?16:15
kragnizmpanetta: university is in wales16:15
mpanettaSweet16:15
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kragnizI'm living in ireland at the moment16:15
kragnizhome is england!16:16
mpanettaCool :)16:16
cpallareskragniz: dolphins are similar to whales... In the way that they live in the ocean? :P16:19
* cpallares has also never seen wild delphins16:20
kragnizcpallares: mammals that live in the ocean!16:21
cpallaresdelphins = dolphins + delfines16:22
cpallares:P16:22
kragnizwhallares = pallares + whale16:24
cpallareskragniz: that should me my new irc nick16:26
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kragwhaletotes16:26
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whallareskragwhale: I always wanted my nick to be lima beans because apparently in Peru lima bean = pallar and lima beans = pallares, so... But I think this might be better.16:31
kragwhalelima beans is pretty catchy16:32
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vkmc~o~19:04
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flaper87~o~o~19:30
flaper87kgriffs: has totally abandoned us19:30
flaper87:(19:30
vkmc*sad panda*19:30
flaper87he doesn't like zaqar anymore19:30
* flaper87 sends a message to kgriffs thorugh Zaqar19:31
flaper87he'll never get that message because he doesn't like zaqar anymore19:31
vkmc40419:31
flaper87too bad, that was the secret code to get half-billion dollars19:31
vkmcwhy not one billion?19:31
flaper87vkmc: because the other half was for you... The only condition for you to have was not asking why I was giving him half-billion instead of a billion19:34
flaper87ah well, too bad... I'll keep the billion for myself19:34
vkmcoh :(19:35
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14096319:37
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vkmcso... if we ever do a website for Zaqar20:42
vkmcI think I found the ideal bootstrap theme for it20:42
vkmchttp://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/20:42
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kragnizvkmc: A++20:50
kragnizwould bootstrap again20:50
vkmcso 90ish20:52
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exploreshaifalivkmc, I have installed plugin https://github.com/stackforge/clouddocs-maven-plugin21:19
exploreshaifalibut still getting PluginException21:19
vkmcexploreshaifali, can you paste me the full trace?21:21
exploreshaifalivkmc, http://paste.openstack.org/show/152021/21:22
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vkmcexploreshaifali, so... I think I know what is happening21:26
vkmchave you tried debugging it by yourself?21:26
exploreshaifaliI tried to run mvn with -e21:27
exploreshaifalibut got same kind of results21:27
vkmchave you inspected the trace? there is a hint there21:27
exploreshaifalivkmc, the thing which I have pasted?21:28
vkmcyeep21:28
exploreshaifalivkmc, they mention PluginExwcutionException21:29
vkmcyou are following the process correctly and that command should work21:29
exploreshaifaliI also went to the help link they provided21:29
vkmcbut something changed last time we submitted the docs21:29
exploreshaifaliokay21:30
exploreshaifalivkmc, but what's the problem?21:30
vkmcok, I wanted you to find out21:31
vkmcbut let's solve it21:31
exploreshaifalivkmc, about which hint you was saying?21:31
vkmccheck out line 3321:31
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vkmcthat is the hint21:31
vkmcprecisely... it says... XInclude resource error (http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/zaqar/plain/etc/zaqar.conf.sample) and no fallback provided.21:31
vkmcthat file doesn't exist anymore, so its getting a 40421:32
exploreshaifalivkmc, ok21:32
vkmcso basically... if you remove that include21:32
vkmcbecause we don't provide samples anymore21:32
vkmcthe command should work21:32
vkmcso you found a bug in our docs21:32
exploreshaifalivkmc, yes, got it :)21:33
exploreshaifalivkmc, Thanks ;)21:34
vkmcif you want you can submit a separate patch for that21:35
exploreshaifalivkmc, yes :D new patch sure!!21:36
vkmc:)21:37
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exploreshaifalivkmc, first should I file a bug for docs or directly I could change the content (removeing include) and put details in commit message22:29
vkmcexploreshaifali, let's do the whole process so we can have a register in the future22:37
vkmcso... file the bug in bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar22:38
vkmcand submit the fix :)22:38
exploreshaifalivkmc, ok, and also I could leave the bug for newbies22:38
vkmcyou could... but your fix depend on that22:38
exploreshaifalioh yes22:39
exploreshaifalivkmc, I should fix it :)22:39
exploreshaifalivkmc, after running *mvn clean generate-sources* successfully22:39
vkmcexploreshaifali, k :22:39
vkmc:)22:40
exploreshaifalihow will I configure chages happend in docs22:40
exploreshaifaliI mean what is the next step after that command22:40
exploreshaifaliif I want to see changes I made in .xml files are okay or not22:40
exploreshaifalivkmc, ^22:41
vkmcexploreshaifali, compile it with mvn22:44
vkmcif it works, you will get the output22:44
vkmca .pdf22:44
exploreshaifalivkmc, okay22:44
exploreshaifalivkmc, Thanks22:44
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vkmcnp22:49
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vkmcI made Trove finally work in Fedora :')23:03
flaper87vkmc: w0000000000000000t23:03
vkmcso painful... I'll write a kick ass guide so nobody else has to suffer the same23:05
exploreshaifalivkmc, yes it will be very helpful, as I was also unable to install it successfully when I was thinking to apply for Trove23:06
exploreshaifalithough now current Trove intern did that after getting seleted23:07
vkmcthere is an script for Ubuntu... but there is nothing for other distros23:09
vkmccertainly we can improve the docs for Ubuntu as well23:10
vkmcs/can/could23:10
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jasondotstarforigve me if you guys have this already23:18
jasondotstarbut do you guys have puppet modules cut to deploy zaqar?23:18
flaper87jasondotstar: I started working on some but I haven't completed the work23:19
jasondotstarflaper87, vkmc ^^23:19
flaper87that's something we would defeinitely want to have23:19
jasondotstaroh good!23:19
flaper87and probably need23:19
jasondotstarthat's something I'd LOVE to work on23:19
flaper87jasondotstar: are you a puppet super lord?23:19
flaper87jasondotstar: awesome23:19
flaper872 secs23:19
jasondotstari dunno about that23:19
jasondotstarbut I do alot of it at work23:19
flaper87jasondotstar: https://github.com/FlaPer87/puppet-zaqar23:19
vkmcmaster of puppets!23:20
flaper87jasondotstar: it's not complete but it has all the basics23:20
flaper87the db part needs to be done and also keystone23:20
jasondotstarlooks like a fork of glance23:20
jasondotstaror something23:20
jasondotstaras a starting pt23:20
flaper87SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH23:20
jasondotstaroops23:20
flaper87:P23:20
flaper87glance+trove23:20
jasondotstarwho said that? :-P23:20
flaper87TBH23:20
flaper87the readme did23:21
flaper87:P23:21
* jasondotstar forks23:21
flaper87jasondotstar: please please please PLEASE, do that, PLEASE23:21
flaper87:D23:21
flaper87w000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000t23:21
jasondotstarit'll help me learn the innards23:21
jasondotstarand contribute at the same time23:21
flaper87eventually, when it'll start working, we will have to move it to stackforge23:22
flaper87awesome23:22
jasondotstarsure23:22
jasondotstari use devstack23:22
flaper87jasondotstar: you deserve tons of pop-tarts23:22
flaper87and gummy bears23:22
* flaper87 orders a couple of trucks23:22
jasondotstarOMG23:22
jasondotstarmy kids LOVE both23:22
jasondotstar(and me)23:22
vkmclol23:22
flaper87ok, gtg now23:23
flaper87jasondotstar: thank you, very much!23:23
flaper87for realz!23:23
vkmcttyt flaper87, take care23:24
vkmcthanks jasondotstar :)23:24
jasondotstarlaters23:28
jasondotstarvkmc: no worries23:28
jasondotstar*finally* something i can contribute to23:28
jasondotstar:-D23:28
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vkmcof course, and something really cool!23:33
vkmcok, I'm heading off for a while, bbl23:35
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