Wednesday, 2021-02-03

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jungleboyjHappy February.00:01
spotzWoot00:02
mattoliverauo/00:03
diablo_rojo#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda00:03
diablo_rojoA gorgeous updated agenda for your perusal.00:03
diablo_rojo#topic Homework00:03
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diablo_rojoWho did it?00:03
diablo_rojo:D00:03
mattoliveraunot me :S00:03
spotzWe had homework?00:04
diablo_rojospotz, always. Its standing homework.00:04
jungleboyjI was nice to the new Cinder contributors.00:04
diablo_rojojungleboyj, perfect :)00:04
diablo_rojoHow many did you have?00:04
spotzI'm always nice...00:05
jungleboyjBwah ha ha!00:05
diablo_rojoSo I guess no is the answer to the homework question.00:07
jungleboyjOh, how many.  I saw one come through on reviews and then we have a couple that are knew contributing a driver.00:07
jungleboyj*new00:07
jungleboyjThe Kioxia driver team.00:08
jungleboyjThere are like 3 guys working on that.00:08
diablo_rojoSo. Reminder! Do the homework!00:08
diablo_rojoFor next time.00:08
diablo_rojojungleboyj, thats awesome00:08
jungleboyj:-)00:08
diablo_rojo#topic Virtual OUI00:08
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diablo_rojospotz, jungleboyj updates? :)00:08
spotzWe can't film yet. Website is influx moving to opendev.infra00:09
jungleboyjSo, I looked through the text you put together.  Made some minor working updates but otherwise it looked fine.00:09
jungleboyjspotz:  Ah, ok.00:09
diablo_rojojungleboyj, hadn't answered your question yet.00:09
diablo_rojospotz, we could film the ones that are all terminal though?00:10
diablo_rojoand just do the joining the foundation one later00:10
jungleboyjWhat was the question?  Is there something in the etherpad?00:10
spotzWe need to recreate the user, add an ssh key etc00:10
diablo_rojoso that we can make progrees..00:10
spotzWe need to beable to push to gerrit, etc00:10
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yeah I remember there being 'QUESTION' in the etherpad00:10
diablo_rojo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/OUI-videos00:11
diablo_rojoFor interested parties ^00:11
mattoliverauis there a known timeline for web migrations? can we ask infra00:11
jungleboyjOh. That question was to spotz  .00:11
jungleboyjor diablo_rojo00:11
spotzIt's not infra team it's Jimmy's team. I know they're working on it cause we were discussing the site in the D&I meeting on Monday00:12
diablo_rojomattoliverau, I think it was Jimmy's team is doing?00:12
diablo_rojoNot infra.00:12
spotzWe already only really have one shot at the logins and I'm still not sure what we'll do with Ubuntu one00:12
diablo_rojospotz, have you talked to the opendev team about getting stacky removed?00:14
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diablo_rojoI realize that doesn't solve the Ubuntu One problem though00:14
spotzdiablo_rojo: Not yet, that will only help with openstackid/foundation and gerrit not ubuntu one00:14
diablo_rojoWorst case I guess we make a stacky2 or something00:15
mattoliveraustackie00:15
jungleboyj:-)  Stackie00:15
diablo_rojoHa ha ha yes00:15
diablo_rojoperfect mattoliverau00:15
spotzdiablo_rojo: Yeah I've got somethings in mind like stack` which should be easy to edit out the ` but it's the screens, urls, etc we're holding on00:15
spotzor stacky` but you get the idea00:16
diablo_rojospotz, still that shouldn't prohibit being able to make some of the other videos?00:16
spotzWe need to gave the gerrit user. I don't have time to redo these a million wimes00:16
spotztimes even00:17
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diablo_rojoLooking at the list... we can clone the repo without having the user made.00:17
mattoliverauof we already have a stacky can't we still at least make some command line and gerrit interface vids?00:17
diablo_rojospotz, I deeeeeefinitely don't want you to have to do it more than once :)00:17
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mattoliverauie, how to review, look at patchsets etc.00:17
diablo_rojoThat is my number one opposition to videos in the first place, things going out of date.00:18
diablo_rojoYeah, the interface should look the same so long as the name is the same.00:18
spotzAnd this is a perfect example of why videos can get outdated really quick.00:19
diablo_rojospotz, right right. I 100% stand by not making extra work for you.00:19
diablo_rojoI am just looking for places to make progress in the mean time and I think the console stuff will not change-- as it never has?00:20
spotzIt would potentially reduce a lot of editing if we can do everything in order. Also take the time to get our screen shots in the process00:20
spotzI can get stacky's email to get the gmail password to accept things. I'm not sure I have stacky's gerrit password00:22
spotzItwas made like 5 years ago00:22
gmanno/ sorry for late00:22
diablo_rojoWhat editing needs to happen?00:22
diablo_rojogmann, no worries?00:22
mattoliverauhey gmann00:22
gmannhi00:22
diablo_rojoHow about this-- what are the current roadblocks that need to be handled?00:22
gmannwow we are going for video training completely or keeping both option00:23
mattoliveraumaking some short training vids on certian topics as it aids in remote training.00:23
diablo_rojogmann, keeping both. I never ever ever will 100% replace OUI with videos. It cannot be done because you will always miss the community aspect00:23
spotzWebsite finished, remove stacky from foundation and gerrit, find workaround for ubuntu one. I want to wait untill we can do everything in order. If someone else wants to video themselves out of order I'll edit it00:23
diablo_rojothe collaboration and connection that we have in the room together.00:24
gmanntrue, that the main point of 1o1 interaction00:24
diablo_rojoWell I can get an eta on the website from Jimmy and talk to fungi about removing the stacky removed.00:24
spotzok00:26
diablo_rojoI guess I will give everyone the todo to think about how to handle the ubuntu one problem00:27
diablo_rojobut I think an entirely new user- stackie or something would be better00:27
diablo_rojounless you wanna gimp/photoshop things in the interface00:27
diablo_rojoBut we can talk about that next meeting.00:27
spotzI think it's going to be an edit job but again we'll have one shot at it or need gerrit removed again00:27
spotzI'll do it in the video software00:27
diablo_rojoRight.00:29
spotzThat's an added issue with video, has to be done in the video editing software across anywhere it's being fixed00:29
diablo_rojoOkay, well moving on for now I guess.00:31
diablo_rojo#topic Sanbox Bot00:31
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diablo_rojomattoliverau, looking at you :)00:31
mattoliverauCool, so we've found Tony's bot patch00:31
mattoliverau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002291.html00:32
mattoliverau#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636466/00:32
mattoliverau#link https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/sandbox/+/63627900:32
mattoliverau#link  https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/sandbox/+/63681000:32
mattoliverauSorry for all those links00:32
mattoliveraujust wanted them in the minutes00:32
diablo_rojoPreserve all the things for posterity!00:33
mattoliverauSo we want tonys bot for next time we do training00:33
mattoliveraubut we need to decide where we want it to live.00:33
diablo_rojoBoth the code and the actual running bot, presumably.00:34
mattoliverauProbably not a good idaa to just have it live with infra when we only use it during trainings00:34
mattoliverauSo thinking step one would be make sure it still works, and move it to training guides repo00:35
diablo_rojoWe *could* have it run all the time, but it might be... mean to the gerrit api's00:35
mattoliverauwrite up docs on how to use it.00:35
diablo_rojoTraining guides makes sense to me.00:35
mattoliverauCurrently it just takes a change ID00:35
mattoliverauso the plan would be to have it run, say on a laptop or vm during OUI00:36
mattoliveraubut to do that it needs a little more work00:36
mattoliveraunamely a wrapper to listen to sandbox gerrit events.00:36
diablo_rojoDoes it get the change ID's of only sandbox patches from anyone that uses the commit syntax trigger thing? Or just all change IDs and then does the filtering of that list?00:36
diablo_rojoYeah a wrapper so that we could run it ourselves would be super cool so that we didn't have to bother infra to turn it on and off and on and off00:37
mattoliverauThen once we get it working and use it for a few trainings then maybe(?) move it into infra or something.00:37
diablo_rojoOh yeah thats a good call too00:38
diablo_rojothat like *one day* it can live there00:38
mattoliverauand not be our problem :P00:38
mattoliverauWhen we go get it in infra, we want it to just listen to sandbox and filter on the bot line, so anyone new could play with it. and we could leave it running00:39
mattoliverauor maybe have a way to turn it on or off.. dont want DOS vectors :P00:39
diablo_rojoAnd we could still show it off in OUI00:40
mattoliverauanyway, I'm just brainstorming and rambling now :P00:40
diablo_rojoIf the commit like is required, I think that would help cut down on the abuse?00:40
diablo_rojoidk though, the security team would know what is more likely to open us up to those problems00:40
mattoliveraueither way, step 1 clean it up and get it into our repo with a wrapper so we can run when we need to00:42
diablo_rojoCool, so sounds like you have work to do ;)00:42
mattoliverauyeah.. thanks :)00:42
mattoliveraubut sure00:42
diablo_rojoYou can thank tonyb for that :)00:42
mattoliverauOh believe me I will :P00:42
diablo_rojoHad he not bailed on us we would be poking him instead of you ;)00:43
diablo_rojoCest la vie.00:43
diablo_rojoOkay.00:43
mattoliverauany questions from anyone?00:43
diablo_rojoNone from me I don't think.00:43
diablo_rojoIf there is anything I can do to help, let me know!00:43
mattoliverauta00:43
diablo_rojoI can push test patches or talk to the opendev team or whatever00:43
diablo_rojoI can bring it up in the opendev meeting next week.00:44
mattoliverauthanks00:44
diablo_rojo#topic Open Discussion00:45
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diablo_rojo(because I am tired and done with this day)00:45
diablo_rojoAnd we obviously have plent to do atm00:45
mattoliverau+100:45
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  ++00:45
jungleboyjOne meeting to go yet.00:46
diablo_rojoSounds like we are good to wrap up this meeting then.00:46
diablo_rojoHave a good couple weeks everyone?00:46
mattoliverauYup, lets call it.00:46
gmann+100:46
spotz+100:46
diablo_rojoThanks everyone!00:46
jungleboyjCool.  Thank you.  Good to chat with everyone.00:46
diablo_rojo#endmeeting00:46
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gmannyou too, thanks and take rest everyone00:46
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