Wednesday, 2019-04-17

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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Added more details IRC in Communication  https://review.openstack.org/65280201:17
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Updates Outdated Event Info  https://review.openstack.org/65214101:19
gmannkmarc: diablo_rojo ildikov is this still needed because it is going to be out of openstack namespace - openstack/upstream-institute-virtual-environment -> x/upstream-institute-virtual-environment01:56
gmannthis ML- http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005232.html01:57
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ildikovgmann: yes, we are still using that repo02:07
ildikovgmann: is this something to add to the ethercalc to keep it under openstack or wherever the training-guides repo is going?02:10
gmannildikov: yeah, but i did not see 'training-guides' in fungi list.02:11
gmannohk . yeah we can ask to move under Doc umbrella where the training-guides is.02:13
gmannwe need to check with stephenfin on this02:13
ildikovhmm, it doesn't really relate to docs though02:16
gmannbut we have all our material related to OUI under  training-guides02:17
ildikovbut I think it would be great to somehow keep them together as they belong together02:18
ildikovyeah, I know as everything else is basically documentation02:19
gmannildikov: agree. if that goes under doc team then, it need to go via governance proposal to add this repo under 'Documentation' team. April 19 is deadline for namespace transition.02:30
ildikovis that enough time to get that change?02:43
ildikov*there02:43
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ildikovgmann: should I go ahead and do that?02:47
ildikovgmann: or should ping stephenfin first?02:48
gmannildikov: i think if stephenfin agree then anyone he or you can propose change. it should not take much time to merge though.02:48
ildikovgmann: ok, I'll ping him later as I believe he's in Europe02:56
gmannildikov: ok, thanks.02:57
ildikovgmann: thanks for the heads up!02:57
gmannnp!02:58
diablo_rojoYes thanks for the heads up gmann03:08
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Added more details IRC in Communication  https://review.openstack.org/65280203:09
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diablo_rojogmann, csatari are you coming to the meeting?04:06
diablo_rojokmarc, ?04:07
ildikovgmann: are you joining the OUI prep call?04:07
gmannhi04:07
ildikovoops, sorry for the double ping04:07
gmannsorry  i missed it.04:07
gmannhangout ?04:08
diablo_rojogmann, zoom04:08
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diablo_rojohttps://zoom.us/j/22761768304:09
gmanndiablo_rojo: thanks04:09
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Did you see my question back to you in the patch?04:34
jungleboyjWasn't sure what you meant by EOL tags.04:34
diablo_rojorepos that are tagged for EOL?04:34
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Well, yes, but I thought that was implied in the documentation I put together.  I guess I could make it more explicit.04:35
jungleboyjWanted to make sure I wasn't missing what he was asking for.04:35
diablo_rojoI think its fine how it is personally04:35
diablo_rojoWas just trying to fill in what I thought mattoliverau was asking for04:36
diablo_rojoAnywho04:36
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Ok.  Cool.  If he doesn't ping me I won't worry about it.04:36
diablo_rojojungleboyj, sounds good to me04:36
jungleboyj:-)04:36
diablo_rojothanks again for that04:36
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  No problem.  I had done a lot of that content originally so I was happy to update.04:37
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  You want me to update the pre-reqs here?  https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/upstream-trainees-guide.html04:37
diablo_rojoYeah and like.. explicity call it out as homework that NEEDS to be done before they show up Sunday04:38
jungleboyjOk cool.  I may also add a link from here https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/upstream-training-summit.html04:38
jungleboyjHopefully I can get the link from Mark and update that all at once.04:38
diablo_rojoIf you want to get really fancy we could add a column to the table on the main page that has it spelled out too04:38
diablo_rojoYeah that would be convenient04:38
jungleboyjI could do that too.  That way it is hard for people to say they didn't know.  :-)04:39
diablo_rojo+204:39
diablo_rojoI'm all for that.04:39
jungleboyj:-)  I figured.04:39
jungleboyjOk.  I will do that in the morning.  Time to go finish up Last Week Tonight and maybe watch The Widow.04:40
diablo_rojoHave a good rest of your evening jungleboyj04:40
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jungleboyjDamn 7 am meetings come so early.04:40
jungleboyjYou too!04:40
diablo_rojoThey do04:40
diablo_rojoThanks :)04:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/contributor-guide master: Added more details IRC in Communication  https://review.openstack.org/65280205:47
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mattoliveraujungleboyj: sorry, was busy packing. https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#end-of-life When the stable branches are to be deleted the head of the branch is tagged with $release-eol tag.06:47
mattoliverauso you can still get to them if need be.06:48
mattoliveraubut still it's good the way it is, which is why I didn't bother with a -1. :)06:48
spotzmattoliverau: were you at the meeting did I miss anything?07:32
spotzI have no clue what day or time anything is anymore!!!:)07:33
ildikovspotz: the meeting was at 6am in CEST so don't feel bad for missing it :)09:01
ildikovspotz: we agreed to have office hours on Saturday in the Hyatt lobby bar 4pm-6pm09:02
ildikovspotz: I'll send the first round of mails to the students today and let them know09:02
spotzildikov: Ok yeah I was semi-still asleep:) I won't get in to Denver until 8:30, but plan on swinging by to help at OUI before the board meeting. Anything I need to know?:)09:03
ildikovspotz: we'll encourage them to have the VM ready and running and their accounts set up by Sunday morning09:03
spotzildikov: okie09:03
ildikovlook out for review in the contributor-guide and training-guide repos and if you have time look into what still needs to be updated before we start the training09:03
ildikovwe'll have flash drives provided by VexxHost to hand out to the students with the VM image and installers for tools like VirtualBox preloaded on them09:04
ildikovJay will update the web page with reminding the students to their homework09:04
ildikovI think these were the main items09:05
ildikovothers might correct me when they wake up :)09:05
spotzok sounds good. And I'll be back in the US and on normal time next week before heading to Denver09:06
ildikovsounds doable09:07
ildikovI'll be back in Europe and on normal time next week before heading to Denver too, lol09:07
spotzMaybe we can coordinate meeting up one trip! I was gonna visit JP in Brussels but he was sick:(09:08
spotzOr make him come to Lux:)09:08
ildikov:(09:12
ildikovwould be cool, to meet! :)09:12
spotzOr let me know next time you're in Austin:)09:37
ildikovmight happen around the end of Summer, we'll see :)09:41
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jungleboyjI have talked to kmarc this morning and he will get me a link a little later today.  Once I have his link I will push up my change for the webpage.14:28
ildikovI'm waiting for the room info before sending out the mail to the students which I should also get some time today US time14:30
ildikovif we think the image is stable enough to share with the students I can do that14:31
ildikovor we can choose to have the group test first so we have it running on multiple laptops before sending it out14:31
ildikovlemme know what people prefer and I'll proceed accordingly14:31
jungleboyjNot sure how much kmarc has changed.14:32
jungleboyjI can do a sanity check on it when I have the link.14:32
jungleboyjLets decide once we have the link as to whether we put it in the e-mail.  Would be nice to try to send it out all at once.14:33
ildikovmore emails mean more reminders to the students so it's good either way14:34
jungleboyjildikov:  :-)14:34
ildikovif I don't hear from you before I get there to have the room info and would hit send, I'll just do it14:34
jungleboyjildikov:  Ok.  Sounds good.  :-)14:35
jungleboyjildikov:  What timezone are you in today?14:35
ildikovjungleboyj, kmarc: thanks!!14:35
ildikovjungleboyj: Beijing14:35
jungleboyjildikov:  Oh boy!14:36
ildikovnext week I'll be in three time zones14:36
ildikovthat'll be interesting :)14:36
ildikovBeijing-Budapest-Denver14:36
jungleboyjGoing the long way around the world?14:37
ildikovmy China trip was supposed to be shorter...14:37
ildikovso yeah, ended up doing that14:37
jungleboyjGotcha.14:37
ildikovthere's some joy in doing laundry at home though I guess :)14:38
jungleboyj:-)14:39
jungleboyjI have been staying in the CDT timezone but working in Shanghai's timezone quite a lot lately.14:40
ildikovthat must suck as well :/14:52
jungleboyjIt does, but I love the job, so it isn't so bad.14:54
ildikovthere's something about every job anyway :)14:55
jungleboyjYep.14:55
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Add Extended Maintenance Info  https://review.openstack.org/65316720:06
kmarc_🥁🥁🥁21:31
kmarc_https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/openstack-kmarc/upstream-training-20190417-1602.ova21:31
diablo_rojokmarc_, its done?21:32
kmarc_diablo_rojo: yes, this is a fresh one21:32
jungleboyjYay!21:32
diablo_rojokmarc_, yay! Thank you21:32
kmarc_(why am I again kmarcunderscore, damn it)21:32
kmarc_(( and who is kmarc, grrr 😡 ))21:35
jungleboyjI am wrapping up the website updates and will include the new image.21:35
diablo_rojoThanks jungleboyj I'll keep an eye out for the patch21:36
jungleboyjYeah, just doing the usual fighting with RST formatting.21:37
openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/training-guides master: Update Prereqs for the Denver Summit  https://review.openstack.org/65361521:49
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Updates Outdated Event Info  https://review.openstack.org/65214121:53
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: I know I am shooting for the moon on all the account setup. If they do it though it would make the day a lot easier.22:41
jungleboyjSee what people think, I can back it down to just doing the ICLA and stuff.22:42
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yeah I am totally good with all that just wanted to hear from others before I went and +2ed22:43
diablo_rojoHappy to change the vote if others agree22:43
jungleboyjNp. I intentionally overshot. :-)22:43
diablo_rojoMy mistake :)22:50
jungleboyjNot a mistake. Just wanted to see what you all thought.22:54
jungleboyjWe do risk frustrating people before we get there with too large a list.23:08
diablo_rojoThats true23:10
diablo_rojoOr people definitely doing none of it because its too long]23:11
jungleboyjCould also make the additional steps recommended but not required.23:11
jungleboyj:-(23:12
diablo_rojojungleboyj, thats true, that could work. Other thought I just had, do we want to mention the office hours after the prereqs? Say like 'If you run into issues with any of these steps we will be providing office hours etc etc'23:12
diablo_rojo?23:12
jungleboyjYeah, for sure. I did make note of that in one place but I could also add it there.23:14
diablo_rojoI think everywhere is a good policy23:14
jungleboyjAgreed. Will add that on the next patch.23:19
diablo_rojoSounds good thanks jungleboyj!23:19
jungleboyjThanks for the feedback.23:20
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  let's see what others say and chat again tomorrow.23:20
diablo_rojoSounds good!23:21
diablo_rojono problem23:21

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