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VW_ | hello folks | 15:01 |
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VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 11 15:01:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 15:01 |
aprice | o/ | 15:01 |
VW_ | #topic roll call | 15:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:02 | |
spotz | o/ | 15:02 |
aprice | o/ for roll call's sake :) | 15:02 |
VW_ | o/ | 15:02 |
VW_ | #chair spotz belmoreira | 15:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz | 15:03 |
VW_ | looks like we might have light attendance this week | 15:04 |
spotz | belmoreira: If you haven't voted there's a patch for the SIG chair change. I can grab the link if you need it | 15:05 |
VW_ | I voted on it this morning | 15:06 |
VW_ | well +1'd it. I didn't have an option to roll call or anything | 15:06 |
spotz | There wasn't | 15:07 |
VW_ | yeah | 15:08 |
VW_ | well, it looks like it's just two members and aprice | 15:09 |
VW_ | anything super critical we need to discuss | 15:09 |
jamesmcarthur_ | i'm here too | 15:09 |
jamesmcarthur_ | FWIW :) | 15:09 |
VW_ | well that changes everything | 15:09 |
aprice | nothing critical from my end | 15:10 |
jamesmcarthur_ | good times | 15:10 |
VW_ | Did anyone hear how the Ops thing went? | 15:10 |
VW_ | it was last week, right | 15:10 |
VW_ | #topic follow up from Ops Meetup | 15:10 |
*** openstack changes topic to "follow up from Ops Meetup (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:10 | |
aprice | yeah - Frank actually already sent me a writeup for Superuser | 15:10 |
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aprice | from both he and Chris, it sounds like it went really well | 15:11 |
aprice | they had about 30 people attend | 15:11 |
VW_ | awesome! | 15:11 |
aprice | i know they put three placeholders in the forum submissions so hopefully they got some good content | 15:11 |
spotz | Yeah Eric said good conversations | 15:11 |
VW_ | oh - even better on the place holders | 15:11 |
VW_ | I was goigng to go through the pads and try to find some topics | 15:12 |
VW_ | but sounds like they are ahead of the game | 15:12 |
spotz | VW_: They still need topics they just reserved spots. I thought the wiki said forum submissions ended yesterday but apparently Friday | 15:13 |
aprice | spotz: forum submissions ended yesterday | 15:13 |
jamesmcarthur_ | We extended it for teh Ops folks. | 15:13 |
spotz | aprice: I went to the link and it said they were closed:( I was gonna put in one for the D&I survey results though not sure we'll have them back | 15:14 |
VW_ | OK - will try to join them tomorrow and see if we can get some stuff in there | 15:14 |
VW_ | just want to keep the feedback loop rolling :) | 15:14 |
aprice | spotz: when did you try to submit? | 15:14 |
aprice | +1 VW_ | 15:15 |
spotz | aprice: Yesterday afternoon I think? After HEB:) | 15:15 |
VW_ | oh derp - you know what folks | 15:15 |
VW_ | we are an hour early | 15:15 |
VW_ | err, I was an hour early | 15:15 |
VW_ | when I sent my email | 15:15 |
aprice | ah right :/ | 15:16 |
spotz | hehehe | 15:16 |
VW_ | ok - I'll kill this and we'll try again in 45 minutes | 15:16 |
VW_ | k | 15:16 |
jamesmcarthur_ | We had 48 submissions | 15:16 |
jamesmcarthur_ | FTR | 15:16 |
aprice | that time is going to be hard for me and Jimmy to join because we have a standing meeting internally | 15:16 |
VW_ | hmm - ok | 15:17 |
VW_ | OK - ending this. I'll start one up again at the REAL 16:00 UTC | 15:18 |
spotz | Well we can see if folks want to stay on this time, but when we fall back I'll be late at the earlier time. I can work around my standup | 15:18 |
jamesmcarthur_ | spotz: I just opened it back up if you want to put your submission in. | 15:18 |
spotz | jamesmcarthur_: thanks | 15:18 |
VW_ | yeah - I'll add an agenda item for take 2 | 15:18 |
spotz | I just wanted to get a slot in case we have the results. Hoping to line up who will be at summit at the D&I meeting | 15:19 |
VW_ | #endmeeting | 15:19 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 11 15:19:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:19 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-15.01.html | 15:19 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-15.01.txt | 15:19 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-15.01.log.html | 15:19 |
VW_ | will try again in 40 minutes | 15:20 |
VW_ | sorry, folks | 15:20 |
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VW_ | ok folks - trying again (the correct time now) :) | 16:01 |
VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 11 16:01:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 16:01 |
VW_ | #chair spotz belmoreira | 16:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz | 16:01 |
VW_ | #topic roll call | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:01 | |
VW_ | o/ | 16:01 |
spotz | o/ | 16:01 |
belmoreira | o/ | 16:02 |
spotz | Well we didn't need get anyone else... | 16:03 |
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VW_ | #chair studarus | 16:04 |
openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz studarus | 16:04 |
VW_ | #topic Follow up from Ops Meetup | 16:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Follow up from Ops Meetup (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:04 | |
VW_ | So, I accidentally started the meeting an hour early because my brain hasn't adjusted for timezone changes yet | 16:05 |
VW_ | belmoreira, studarus - we discussed briefly then that the OPs meetup seemed to go pretty well and that the organziers had reserved some forum slots to hopefully bring content from there to the forum | 16:05 |
studarus | will these presentations be during the summit or PTG? | 16:08 |
VW_ | summit | 16:08 |
VW_ | the forum sessions | 16:08 |
studarus | ok | 16:08 |
VW_ | the idea is that we take some conversations that happened at a largely ops gathering and revisit them at the summit - hopefully with some devs around, etc | 16:09 |
belmoreira | there's any summary about the Ops discussions? | 16:09 |
belmoreira | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup | 16:11 |
VW_ | yeah - I don't know that they have distilled it all down yet belmoreira, but aprice confirmed earlier that a summary was sent to them for Superuser articles and such | 16:12 |
VW_ | I'm going to try and hop in their meeting tomorrow and see what they have to say | 16:12 |
belmoreira | ok, I will try to join | 16:13 |
spotz | I'm usually there a few minutes or so after it starts | 16:18 |
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VW_ | sorry - there was an internet incident at the house | 16:21 |
VW_ | what I miss? | 16:21 |
belmoreira | we were waiting for you... :) | 16:21 |
studarus | we had to quell a coup | 16:22 |
studarus | good thing you returned | 16:22 |
VW_ | Ok, well then - moving along | 16:22 |
VW_ | #topic Formalizing the Ambassador role | 16:22 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Formalizing the Ambassador role (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:22 | |
VW_ | We committed to touch base on this the next couple of meetings | 16:23 |
VW_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-ambassador-governance | 16:23 |
studarus | we've got an etherpad with thoughts and have been reviewing what the CNCF and Docker has been doing | 16:23 |
VW_ | yeah - looked it over | 16:23 |
VW_ | good start | 16:23 |
studarus | the Docker program is closed and the CNCF program takes submissions through a web form | 16:23 |
studarus | but the general idea is someone (not a group leader) that promotes through local presentations online and offline (tied to official projects) | 16:24 |
studarus | one big distinction is they don't formalize geographic regions like we've been doing | 16:24 |
belmoreira | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-ambassador-governance | 16:25 |
studarus | I'm generally thinking we ask for some past experience (i.e. two+) giving non-summit presentations either online or in-person around the core OSF projects | 16:26 |
VW_ | That sounds very reasonable | 16:28 |
spotz | Except there's not alot of activity at meetups. I know Austin is dead | 16:28 |
studarus | and setup some sort of term (2 years)? | 16:28 |
studarus | that's the idea behind opening it up to online too - superuser articles, blog posts, etc... | 16:28 |
VW_ | gotcha | 16:30 |
belmoreira | studarus that's very good | 16:30 |
studarus | the key thing being there needs to an OSF project in there somewhere - not just a Terraform or Kubernetes demo... | 16:31 |
spotz | +1 | 16:32 |
belmoreira | and what's the incentive to be an ambassador? for me this is one of the key points | 16:32 |
belmoreira | we need to define it very clearly | 16:33 |
belmoreira | also, spotz touched a very good point "meetups activity is going down" | 16:34 |
studarus | you get your name and picture on the OSF website? | 16:34 |
studarus | well, what does a PTG lead get? | 16:35 |
spotz | studarus: nothing, most likely it's a PTL, core or someone with a vested interest | 16:36 |
studarus | well, for me, as an Ambassador, it gets my name out to hopefully bring in work since I freelance... | 16:37 |
belmoreira | I was thinking that considering the decline in meetups activity (my perception), having a very attractive ambassador role maybe a way to revive the community around meetups | 16:38 |
studarus | Last year I was hoping city to city giving meetup talks (LA, NYC, Chicago, DC) - I would love to see the OSF promote something similar | 16:40 |
studarus | helping out top speakers (Ambassadors) get to the groups | 16:41 |
studarus | it somewhat dovetails into the speaker bureau discussion | 16:42 |
VW_ | yeah - I agree. It would be a good model. I know the OSF folks have discussed it in the past too. (the getting speakers to places bit) not sure how we get it all started | 16:44 |
jamesmcarthur | One of the things that we've discussed re: meetup talks was to source locally. | 16:44 |
jamesmcarthur | The purpose of ambassadors isn't supposed to be speaking at meetups. | 16:44 |
studarus | I'd key in on a few good workshops and then train people regionally to give them at the meetups | 16:45 |
jamesmcarthur | It's meant to help the local groups organize and give them direction around content. | 16:45 |
ashfergs | The way I think about it, is that the role is a bridge between the Foundation and User Groups | 16:46 |
VW_ | right, but we also have discussed making it easier for meetup group organizers and such to connect with speakers who are local (or will be in the area) | 16:46 |
jamesmcarthur | VW_ yes, that's why we updated the speakers bureau so you can search by zip code now (per some feedback we received in Vancouver) | 16:47 |
VW_ | awesome! | 16:47 |
studarus | we need a few more tweaks on the zip code - like being able to do a range of zip codes or wildcards | 16:47 |
jamesmcarthur | noted | 16:48 |
jamesmcarthur | studarus: you can search by City, which should cover any sort of zip range | 16:49 |
studarus | Can we queue up a communication out to the meetup organizers with this new capability? | 16:49 |
VW_ | quick time check | 16:51 |
jamesmcarthur | studarus: that will go out with the next big ambassador email update | 16:51 |
VW_ | we have about 9 minutes left | 16:51 |
studarus | ok! | 16:51 |
ashfergs | yes, it's queued, was wanting to get the new amb role figured out and then send it all at once | 16:52 |
VW_ | cool - let's touch base on this again next week | 16:53 |
VW_ | this being the formalizing the ambassador role | 16:53 |
VW_ | need to cover at least one other thing | 16:53 |
VW_ | #topic Meeting time with DST | 16:53 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Meeting time with DST (Meeting topic: uc)" | 16:53 | |
studarus | Back to 8am PDT please... | 16:54 |
VW_ | so, an issue came up earlier today. If we stick to 16:00 UTC for meeting times, now that DST has happened, OSF folks may not be able to make it | 16:54 |
VW_ | before we tweak to 15:00 UTC, I just wanted to confirm here | 16:55 |
VW_ | spotz, belmoreira - thoughts? | 16:58 |
belmoreira | 15:00 UTC is only ok for me when we move to CEST (from last Sunday of March) | 16:58 |
spotz | Either or for me | 16:58 |
belmoreira | overlapping meetings | 16:59 |
belmoreira | can we do 17:00 UTC until 31/03/2019 and then 15:00 UTC? | 17:01 |
VW_ | Let's keep it at 16:00 UTC for a week or two more and then flip | 17:01 |
VW_ | to 15:00 | 17:01 |
VW_ | it's not perfect for all, but minimal change and limits the troublesome weeks to most folks for 2 or 3 weeks tops | 17:01 |
VW_ | Ok - we have gone over, but anything else? | 17:04 |
VW_ | guessing not. I'll go ahead and close this | 17:05 |
belmoreira | thanks all | 17:06 |
VW_ | #endmeeting | 17:08 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 11 17:08:33 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:08 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-16.01.html | 17:08 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-16.01.txt | 17:08 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-03-11-16.01.log.html | 17:08 |
spotz | Thanks! | 17:09 |
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