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| openstackgerrit | melissaml proposed openstack/trove master: Replaces uuid.uuid4 with uuidutils.generate_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/465854 | 03:04 |
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| amrith | eandersson, sorry for the delay; i've been on planes the better part of this week and just catching up on things here. thanks trevormc johnma and others for holding the fort while I've been playing ping pong on the map | 13:57 |
| trevormc | amrith, glad to see you're back! All the work is stacking up around here, its starting to stink :P | 13:58 |
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| jcookeman | amrith: hi there. I was curious if you were able to get around to getting me the information I emailed you about. | 14:35 |
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| amrith | jcookeman, working on it | 15:05 |
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| amrith | jcookeman, the place you should start is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute | 15:06 |
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| trevormc | amrith, I created a doodle poll to determine the best time for a virtual meeting next week. https://beta.doodle.com/poll/s36ywdz5mfwqkdvu#table Do you think this looks good or should we use something else? | 15:12 |
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| jcookeman | amrith: ta | 15:18 |
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| trevormc | jcookman, are you a new contributor? | 15:23 |
| trevormc | jcookeman* | 15:23 |
| jcookeman | trevormc: I'm working on that. | 15:23 |
| jcookeman | I got back to London after two heavy weeks stateside and finally finished panting yesterday. | 15:23 |
| trevormc | if you need any help, I can try and answer some of your questions. #openstack-101 is a good place for that | 15:24 |
| jcookeman | ok great thanks | 15:24 |
| jcookeman | I need to get in touch with Charlie from this side and see how we want to approach this | 15:24 |
| trevormc | what are you trying to do? | 15:24 |
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| jcookeman | Well, I'm a consultant that uses the services of UKCloud for my clients. And, we need DBaaS. The problem is, Trove is no officially supported by any providers (or certainly not the one they use -- RedHat). Personally, I would love to see this corrected. | 15:30 |
| trevormc | jcookeman, yeah that would be great. Good luck :) I'm not sure what help I can be with that.. | 15:31 |
| trevormc | - im just a developer for AT&T | 15:32 |
| trevormc | s/just/super star | 15:32 |
| jcookeman | trevormc, yeah it will be a tough row to hoe | 15:32 |
| jcookeman | lol | 15:32 |
| smatzek | If you have contacts the distros, Ubuntu, Red Hat, etc I'd suggest pinging them saying you're interested in them supporting Trove. If more people ask it may happen | 15:33 |
| amrith | jcookeman, there's more to setting a meeting time than the doodle pool (unfortunately) | 16:09 |
| amrith | but it is a good start. | 16:09 |
| trevormc | amrith, that way my poll | 16:10 |
| amrith | oh, sorry ... | 16:10 |
| amrith | trevormc, there's more to it than a doodle poll | 16:10 |
| trevormc | yeah I was writing a draft for the ML | 16:10 |
| trevormc | then we need to advertise a google hangout link | 16:11 |
| amrith | ok, so before you do that here's what I suggest you do. | 16:11 |
| amrith | hangouts are cool, but one of the 'openstack ways' is that meetings are on IRC | 16:11 |
| amrith | so, please go look at eavesdrop.openstack.org and find a time from among the times you want to propose where you can get a meeting IRC channel. | 16:12 |
| amrith | you can't, for example, do away with the IRC meeting | 16:12 |
| trevormc | ok, I thought this was going to a one time meeting but I agree we should use IRC | 16:13 |
| amrith | sure, a one-time meeting on hangouts is fine | 16:13 |
| trevormc | so two things we are talking about here. 1. trove-reboot meeting (more flexibility because its a one time meeting). 2. new meeting time (less flexible). | 16:13 |
| amrith | but the sense I got from jcookeman and the conversations at summit (forum) was that we want to adjust the regular weekly wednesday meeting to accommodate other geographies. | 16:13 |
| trevormc | true | 16:14 |
| amrith | while trove-reboot, one time, more-flexible meeting on hangout is fine, you still can't make a bunch of decisions there and expect that they will stick. | 16:14 |
| trevormc | yeah idk what else to do atm | 16:14 |
| amrith | in fairness, you have to give others who are (maybe) not able to join your hangout for whatever reason to chime in | 16:14 |
| trevormc | yes thats true. | 16:15 |
| amrith | so put your proposal out on the ML, advertise the hangout times, let's have the meeting and close the loop either on IRC or on the ML (preferably IRC) | 16:15 |
| amrith | thanks for doing this, by the way | 16:15 |
| amrith | please go ahead with trying to get the hangout setup | 16:15 |
| amrith | let's get it going and get the reboot conversation started. | 16:15 |
| amrith | johnma ^^ | 16:16 |
| trevormc | I also updated the trove meeting wiki with a message saying we are tentaively moving the time and to voice your opinion | 16:16 |
| trevormc | Tentatively, the new meeting time will be 15:00 UTC as agreed during the trove project update | 16:16 |
| amrith | do you have an IRC channel? | 16:17 |
| amrith | for that time? | 16:17 |
| trevormc | im sure we can use one of the alternates. | 16:17 |
| jcookeman | I propose 1500 GMT or BST | 16:17 |
| amrith | trevormc, there's a little more to it than that :) | 16:18 |
| jcookeman | I assume announcements will be done over a mailing list? | 16:18 |
| amrith | no | 16:18 |
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| amrith | 1500GMT eh ... | 16:19 |
| amrith | one second | 16:19 |
| jcookeman | That's UTC of course | 16:19 |
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| amrith | Well, that makes it easier ... GMT would have been harder | 16:21 |
| jcookeman | I still use GMT for some reason | 16:21 |
| jcookeman | But it's UTC officially | 16:21 |
| amrith | old habits | 16:21 |
| amrith | so I can't see a free channel at that time, let me check again | 16:21 |
| jcookeman | Since 1967 :D | 16:21 |
| amrith | trevormc, check out http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ where you will find a link to the repository http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree | 16:22 |
| amrith | I suggest you try and make a commit which would move the trove meeting to the time you want and get the local CI jobs to pass | 16:23 |
| amrith | once you do that, (and you may have to change the meeting iRC channel for that to work) | 16:23 |
| amrith | and the change is merged (which means I'll have to +1 it) then we can actually say the meeting time has been changed. | 16:23 |
| amrith | trevormc, would you please give that a shot | 16:23 |
| trevormc | amrith, yes | 16:24 |
| amrith | thanks trevormc | 16:24 |
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| eandersson | amrith: After this patch I think I'll follow up with fixing the other non-lazy config calls to prevent this from happening again. | 16:37 |
| eandersson | and potentially fixing unknown bugs | 16:37 |
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| amrith | Thx eandersson | 16:52 |
| amrith | did it merge yet? | 16:52 |
| eandersson | Not the stable/ocata commit | 16:52 |
| eandersson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455463/ | 16:52 |
| eandersson | Needs +2 and workflow | 16:52 |
| amrith | check now | 16:57 |
| amrith | eandersson ^^ | 16:57 |
| eandersson | Sweet thanks amrith | 16:58 |
| amrith | people usually say "sweet amrith, thanks" but you are forgiven :) | 16:59 |
| amrith | sometimes just 'sweet amrith' :) | 16:59 |
| amrith | sorry, it is friday, I need sleep | 16:59 |
| amrith | eandersson, good point on other lazy loads. how do you plan to find those? just brute force inspection or is there a better way? and can we make it such that we don't reintroduce these in the future | 17:01 |
| amrith | is there some pythonic way to make it such that a non-lazy config setting is flagged as an error? | 17:02 |
| amrith | eandersson, ^^ | 17:02 |
| eandersson | hah | 17:06 |
| eandersson | I just wrote a quick regex | 17:06 |
| eandersson | There isn't anything inherently wrong with non-lazy configs, it's just that with a project of this site it is though to keep track of the order of imports. | 17:08 |
| eandersson | *size | 17:08 |
| eandersson | *tough | 17:09 |
| eandersson | It's too early over here | 17:12 |
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| eandersson | The following regex would probalby work in PyCharm => ^[a-zA-Z_]+ = CONF. | 17:39 |
| eandersson | Things like extensions can probably be ignored, as they will always be loaded after the config. | 17:40 |
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| amrith | hmm | 17:50 |
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| eandersson | As an example this almost certainly does not work https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/models.py#L31 | 18:11 |
| eandersson | This was the original man made traceback I used to figure out the issue with the keystone url, and anything in any of these files that are not lazy-loaded wont work http://paste.openstack.org/show/610065/ | 18:12 |
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| eandersson | I ran the same regex on nova, and not a single hit | 18:23 |
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| trevormc | amrith I prepared a draft for the ML here http://paste.openstack.org/show/610070/ | 19:30 |
| trevormc | I wonder if having a designated... speech to text summarizer for the chat room would be appropriate lol | 19:31 |
| trevormc | having a software bot to do it would be ideal but i dont think that exists. | 19:32 |
| trevormc | I guess I can just send this on the ML and if you have anything you want to add or change you can do so there. | 19:33 |
| trevormc | ...and done | 19:35 |
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| amrith | trevormc, what chat room? | 20:44 |
| trevormc | amrith, probably this one. | 20:45 |
| trevormc | kind of like a note taker... but that could just go into an etherpad. | 20:45 |
| trevormc | i was trying to address your concern of the openstack way | 20:45 |
| trevormc | by writing everything were saying in chat and responding to messages in chat like in the meeting... lol | 20:46 |
| trevormc | when we are in the virtual meeting (talking I assume) someone can convey back in forth to the chat room.. but that just osunds like extra work. | 20:47 |
| trevormc | chat room, being this one. | 20:47 |
| trevormc | s/chat room/ irc channel | 20:47 |
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