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openstackgerrit | Saurabh Surana proposed openstack/trove-specs: Floating ip on vertica master node https://review.openstack.org/213354 | 00:33 |
dougshelley66 | peterstac and pmalik added a framework for making the int-tests db agnostic during liberty | 01:02 |
dougshelley66 | it you leverage this for db2, you can get a bunch of things for free | 01:03 |
dougshelley66 | including testing of backup and restore | 01:03 |
openstackgerrit | Ishita Mandhan proposed openstack/trove-specs: Addition of DB2 backup and restore https://review.openstack.org/236065 | 01:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/trove-integration: MongoDB elements switch to YAML https://review.openstack.org/236059 | 05:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Van Dijk proposed openstack/trove-integration: Add MongoDB mongos upstart script to elements https://review.openstack.org/239092 | 14:45 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Van Dijk proposed openstack/trove-integration: Add MongoDB mongos upstart script to elements https://review.openstack.org/239092 | 14:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Finish cluster int-tests https://review.openstack.org/244176 | 16:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Van Dijk proposed openstack/trove: Improve guestagent datastore models https://review.openstack.org/236082 | 16:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Guestagent configuration tests mock chown/chmod https://review.openstack.org/244221 | 17:09 |
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openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/trove: Correct the computation of elapsed time while waiting for state change https://review.openstack.org/240728 | 17:41 |
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openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/trove: Cleanup trove debug and info logging messages https://review.openstack.org/236943 | 17:43 |
cp16net | peterstac: fyi i was going to bring up the datastore log bp | 17:48 |
cp16net | mainly to get feedback on the containers | 17:49 |
amrith | peterstac, vgnbkr, cp16net ... i think https://review.openstack.org/240728 reflects all ur feedback now | 17:54 |
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amrith | cp16net, what is the intersection? | 17:54 |
amrith | (since I won't be at the meeting) | 17:55 |
cp16net | intersection? | 17:55 |
amrith | yes .... between log restore and containers? | 17:55 |
cp16net | oh... having a new container per instance for the logs vs a single container | 17:56 |
cp16net | for the tenant | 17:56 |
amrith | ok, thanks | 17:57 |
amrith | I'll follow up with the scrollback later to figure out what y'all discuss | 17:57 |
amrith | have to run now, 2pm is my talk and I still have to register | 17:57 |
amrith | and stuff | 17:57 |
amrith | still at the bar ;) | 17:57 |
amrith | fyi, re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240728/ ... psargent is an applicant to outreachy. vkmc, you may want to help with the review. | 17:58 |
amrith | ;) | 17:58 |
vkmc | amrith, sure thing, it's on my list | 17:58 |
vkmc | I was checking out your patches first | 17:58 |
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amrith | thx vkmc | 18:02 |
SlickNik | No trove meeting today? | 18:03 |
cp16net | yeah in #openstack-meeting-alt now | 18:04 |
SlickNik | awesome — thanks cp16net | 18:04 |
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pmackinn | gentle reminder: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-midcycle-rsvp | 19:01 |
cp16net | thanks pmackinn | 19:01 |
SlickNik | pmackinn: +1 | 19:01 |
cp16net | i meant to have time after the meeting to have announcements but the convo kept going :-P | 19:02 |
atomic77 | cp16net, basically what i was trying to say is that, if the container is just a 'convenience prefix' from swift's perspective then this is just a usability and mgmt issue | 19:03 |
cp16net | atomic77: yeah | 19:04 |
atomic77 | as long as we delete the containers when they're not needed it's not a big dela. but if the containers have some extra significance then maybe it's a valid concern | 19:04 |
cp16net | i see a container as a logical separation of objects | 19:05 |
cp16net | maybe my view is skewed thinking that because i've put lots of stuff in a container before | 19:06 |
cp16net | and if we have 1 container for all the backups of all the instances | 19:06 |
cp16net | i do not see a difference with storing logs | 19:07 |
atomic77 | given that i can see arguments for both sides, i don't have a strong preference personally | 19:07 |
atomic77 | unless there's a strong technical reason why this creates a problem due to how swift distributes its data | 19:08 |
cp16net | the long term draw backup i potentially see is a user seeing 20 containers trove created on their behalf | 19:08 |
cp16net | and they are looking for their container of data | 19:09 |
cp16net | this may seem silly | 19:09 |
cp16net | but my opinion is that then trove is creating more reasources than it needs to | 19:10 |
cp16net | if everyone is against my opinion then i'll conceed but i think it should be explored | 19:13 |
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johnma | in the case of backups, how does this work. Is a backup stored as a single object within a container? | 19:16 |
cp16net | its stored as a potentially split object | 19:17 |
johnma | oh ok | 19:17 |
atomic77 | johnma, basically it is (default 1g splits i believe) | 19:17 |
cp16net | yeah something like that because the backuop could be larger than the object size swift can store | 19:18 |
cp16net | so you potentially need to split them | 19:18 |
johnma | so in that case, how would a user access a split object? I am assuming the number of objects in the case of backups might not be as many as in the case of the logs which is probably where the current proposed approach might be a cleaner solution | 19:20 |
cp16net | there is metadata that tells swift how to deliever the split objects as a single object | 19:21 |
cp16net | because we compress the object and stream it to swift | 19:21 |
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peterstac | cp16net, I volunteered to look into having the logs in one container (in the meeting - maybe you missed it ;) ) | 19:22 |
cp16net | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/strategies/storage/swift.py#L139-L150 | 19:23 |
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cp16net | oh maybe i did | 19:23 |
cp16net | :-P | 19:23 |
peterstac | Our only concern is if Swift can efficiently find and return a large number of files from a container containing a huge number of files | 19:24 |
johnma | oh ok. so then that shouldnt be a problem with the split objects in the log operations case. | 19:24 |
cp16net | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli_swift_pseudo_hierarchical_folders_directories.html | 19:24 |
peterstac | I suspect that they can, but I'll confirm that with some Swift folk first | 19:24 |
cp16net | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/cli_swift_large_lists.html | 19:26 |
cp16net | thats the docs talking about large lists of objects or containers | 19:26 |
peterstac | cp16net, yeah, I think that'll work - I'll test it out and get back to you (or just update the spec if it does :) ) | 19:27 |
peterstac | (the psudo directories that is, not the markers - that might be error-prone) | 19:28 |
peterstac | Using the psudo directories also has the side effect that you can navigate them through horizon | 19:28 |
cp16net | right | 19:28 |
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cp16net | imandhan: i mentioned that it was the milestone before but its really the series goal for the blueprint | 19:49 |
imandhan | oh okay. Well I have both of those set to mitaka-1 but the db2 bp wasn't on the link shared in the meeting | 19:50 |
imandhan | Do I need to add you as an approver? | 19:50 |
imandhan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/db2-backup-restore | 19:50 |
cp16net | ok it should be there now | 19:52 |
imandhan | nvm something magical happened just now and it's on there | 19:52 |
cp16net | i approved it for the series | 19:52 |
imandhan | ahh okay :) | 19:52 |
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cp16net | imandhan: quick q on the backup strategy for db2 | 20:46 |
cp16net | so this is the offline backup | 20:46 |
cp16net | sounds like there could be another way for online backups right? | 20:46 |
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cp16net | or is online backups just related to incremental backups? | 20:47 |
imandhan | yes, there is a way to implement online backups but it'll involve changing the way logging takes place from circular to archive logging. | 20:50 |
imandhan | this link explains the two a little - http://www.tutorialspoint.com/db2/db2_backup_and_recovery.htm | 20:50 |
imandhan | default logging method is circular | 20:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed openstack/trove-integration: pxc image wont build because percona-xtrabackup-22 not found https://review.openstack.org/243749 | 21:03 |
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pmalik_ | A couple of easy reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243247/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244221/ Thx. :-) | 21:04 |
pmalik_ | ^^^ cp16net _amrith_ vkmc SlickNik | 21:04 |
pmalik_ | This has already been WF +1 once before it got into a merge conflict: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218382/ | 21:06 |
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SlickNik | pmalik_: okay thanks! will take a look. | 21:20 |
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cp16net | pmackinn: hey fedora 22 is the "supported" version for trove? | 21:54 |
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pmackinn | cp16net, yup, f23 just coming out but should be ok for redstack | 21:58 |
pmackinn | cp16net, still some issues w/ some of the experimental datastores | 21:59 |
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cp16net | ok | 22:10 |
cp16net | i was going to look at the comment that you mentioned for xtradb-backup | 22:10 |
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cp16net | pmackinn: so it looks like the package nname in fedora is differnt | 22:20 |
cp16net | percona-xtrabackup.x86_64 | 22:21 |
cp16net | but i guess the .x86_64 doesnt matter.... | 22:21 |
cp16net | ok | 22:21 |
cp16net | i figured it out | 22:21 |
pmackinn | yeah, i actually added a provides for -22 but if it's broken for the ubuntu elements also, well then | 22:24 |
openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed openstack/trove-integration: images wont build because percona-xtrabackup-22 not found https://review.openstack.org/243749 | 22:28 |
cp16net | pmackinn: that should fix both for now | 22:28 |
cp16net | if you add the percona repo then you get the -22 package | 22:29 |
pmackinn | cp16net, ack hopefully i've covered it off from the fedora side | 22:30 |
cp16net | cool | 22:31 |
openstackgerrit | Ishita Mandhan proposed openstack/trove-specs: Addition of DB2 backup and restore https://review.openstack.org/236065 | 22:34 |
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