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| openstackgerrit | Viswa Vutharkar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Pop instead of get for timeout kwarg https://review.openstack.org/80677 | 01:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/81999 | 06:22 |
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| AJaeger | Good morning, trove team. Could you import the translations, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81999/ | 08:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Allow db instance conditional logging https://review.openstack.org/63789 | 13:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Allow log files audit https://review.openstack.org/64302 | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add point in time recovery https://review.openstack.org/77222 | 14:04 |
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| AJaeger | Hi trove team. Could you import the translations, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81999/ | 14:26 |
| denis_makogon | AJaeger, hi, what do you mean "import the translations" ? | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Support full backup/restore for Cassandra https://review.openstack.org/77551 | 14:42 |
| AJaeger | denis_makogon, it's the initial setup and import of the translation files. So far I think no translations happened - but if you import the files (just approve the review!), it's getting easier | 14:43 |
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| AJaeger | denis_makogon, 81999 is the result of a periodic job that runs every day and imports the stuff if something new shows up. | 14:44 |
| denis_makogon | AJaeger, i think core-team is well-known with this patch, so no need to ask them multiple times. However, i agreed, this patch looks good | 14:44 |
| denis_makogon | AJaeger, i know that | 14:44 |
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| AJaeger | denis_makogon, great to hear. Is there anything unclear with the patch that I can answer? | 14:45 |
| denis_makogon | AJaeger, no. | 14:45 |
| denis_makogon | AJaeger, i'm well known with such types of jobs | 14:46 |
| AJaeger | denis_makogon, great | 14:46 |
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| amrith | denis_makogon: got a second? | 15:10 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, yes | 15:10 |
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| amrith | a little confused. you +1'ed amcrn's chkin (81914) which would use "service cassandra start" but you said "service cassandra stop" won't work. | 15:11 |
| amrith | I tested with u12.04 | 15:11 |
| amrith | pl let me know what the failure was so I can fix and alert amcrn about it as well | 15:12 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, there's problem in precise images | 15:13 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, if start/stop commands would be changed - cassandra would not work inside integration | 15:14 |
| denis_makogon | that's all | 15:14 |
| amrith | so I'm confused by one thing. if "service start" is +1'ed how come "service stop" is -1'ed. admittedly I'm new here so please bear with the silly question(s) | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Add point in time recovery https://review.openstack.org/77223 | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Allow log files audit https://review.openstack.org/64303 | 15:15 |
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| amrith | to be clear, the +1 on amcrn's chkin by you (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81914/) seems inconsistent with your statement here or the -1 on my chkin https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ | 15:16 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, different approaches in bug description | 15:17 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, please read Auston's bug report | 15:17 |
| amrith | I read it | 15:17 |
| amrith | and asked him about fixing stop as well | 15:17 |
| amrith | and he opined that it was 'out of scope'. | 15:18 |
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| amrith | so what you appear to be saying is that you would rather cassandra be started with "service start" but stopped with "kill"? | 15:18 |
| hub_cap | lol that sounds goofy | 15:19 |
| amrith | i agree | 15:19 |
| amrith | and I'm not sure what's in the bug report that you are specifically alluding to. at issue is the fact that cassandra was being started in the wrong process group and hence the change to service start | 15:19 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, kill would work always instead of service | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: does service stop not kill c*? | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | as a operator | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | i NEVER use kill | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | unless service stop is haning | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | NEVER | 15:20 |
| amrith | kill is not a good way to stop a service of any kind | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | *hanging | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | no its not amrith :) | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | its teh WORST way | 15:20 |
| hub_cap | aka last resort | 15:21 |
| kevinconway | i have an alias call stop that is pkill -9 -f * | 15:21 |
| amrith | SIGTERM leaves your handler in theuncomfortable position of having to deal with a restricted set of 'safe things' to do | 15:21 |
| hub_cap | LOL kevinconway | 15:21 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, first approach of kill was - make it work under integration, but i agree that it should be "service" but it would not work with 12.04 LTS | 15:21 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: is it alias ls=pkill... | 15:21 |
| amrith | hencec an inband message (which is what a service stop would do) or in the mogo case would be mongodb --shutdown would be the proper way to do things | 15:21 |
| amrith | if you wanted to operate a service in produciton | 15:21 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: what do u mean? "would not work with 12.04"? | 15:22 |
| hub_cap | is there a bug in ubuntu tracked for it? | 15:22 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, under trove-integration deployment and kick-start | 15:22 |
| hub_cap | if there is a good reason we _have_ to use kill, we can... but if i was an operator id see that and immed not want to use trove | 15:22 |
| hub_cap | :) | 15:22 |
| amrith | denis_makogan: please let me know how "service start" works in integation and I'll make it work identically in "service stop" | 15:22 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, prof. ? | 15:23 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, please share start log | 15:23 |
| amrith | sorry, unfamiliar with your acronym | 15:23 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, sorry, misspell, proof | 15:23 |
| amrith | happy to send you the doc page ... one second | 15:24 |
| amrith | by the way, did you run "service cassandra start" somewhere? did it work? | 15:24 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: this is teh internet. typos are unnacceptable. | 15:24 |
| amrith | here's one. | 15:25 |
| amrith | http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/references/start_stop_ref | 15:25 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, c* 1.0 | 15:25 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, i read all datastax docs | 15:26 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, i'm suggesting you to share cassandra start log from trove instanc | 15:26 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, i tried multiple times different ways to start/stop cassandra | 15:27 |
| amrith | so, please do tell me why it makes sense to +1 a "service cassandra start" but -1 a "service cassandra stop" ;) | 15:27 |
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| amrith | did that work for you? | 15:28 |
| amrith | ;) | 15:28 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, i +1 first patch because it fixes one type of error, that was hidden deeply, and Auston did that well, but "This is excessively harsh" is not the reason for changing stop command | 15:30 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, i'm gonna re-verify both patches, and possibly re-define marks for them, unless that, it'll stay as it is | 15:31 |
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| cp16net | hub_cap or grapex: i'd like you to try out the review for removing rax specifc auth from the the trove client. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69081/ | 15:36 |
| cp16net | i updated it to use a plugin like novaclient | 15:36 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: yes i saw, is guud | 15:42 |
| hub_cap | i assume youve tried as well? :) | 15:42 |
| hub_cap | remind me this aftn, ill do it | 15:42 |
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| cp16net | hub_cap: yeah i did it with the rackspace-troveclient that i created | 15:55 |
| cp16net | ok | 15:56 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, what about releasing new troveclient ? | 15:57 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: i will, but i wnat this fix to go in first | 16:00 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, yes, agreed, i'm asking because heat depends on us, so we need to release client asap, fix trove resource and update horizon dashboard | 16:01 |
| hub_cap | ok denis_makogon is the "bug" in heat in RC1 for that? | 16:03 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, if "next" is RC1 than yes | 16:04 |
| hub_cap | its not | 16:04 |
| hub_cap | itll say rc1 | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/database-api: Update to clouddocs-maven-plugin 1.15 https://review.openstack.org/82195 | 16:06 |
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| cp16net | hmm has the design summit slots been announced? | 16:08 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: its open | 16:10 |
| hub_cap | summit.openstack.org | 16:10 |
| hub_cap | no one has proposed for trove yet | 16:10 |
| SlickNik | hub_cap: I'm working through a couple of proposals. Plan to have them up by end of this week. | 16:15 |
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| amrith | denis_makogon: sorry took a while to get you the logging from my cassandra instance. See http://paste.openstack.org/show/74160/ | 16:25 |
| hub_cap | SlickNik: coo | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Unmounting ephemeral if it has already been mounted https://review.openstack.org/81379 | 17:10 |
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| ViswaV | amrith: denis_makogon: please also see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ | 17:16 |
| grapex | Ajaeger: yt? | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/81999 | 17:17 |
| SlickNik | Just a quick reminder; I'll be freezing the agenda for Wednesday's meeting, and sending it out in email today evening. So please ensure you add any items you'd like to discuss to the meeting wiki page at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 17:20 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 17:21 |
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| amrith | ViswaV: I concur with your observations in your comments on 82080. See my paste output from http://paste.openstack.org/show/74160/ | 17:32 |
| amrith | I think we're saying the same thing | 17:32 |
| ViswaV | amrith: yup | 17:32 |
| ViswaV | I have additional comment on https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/cassandra/system.py#L37 . which seems to have been overlooked as well. | 17:34 |
| ViswaV | I think this cmd (CASSANDRA_KILL) is used at https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/cassandra/service.py#L83 . It seems reasonable that you would want to kill Cassandra if the service start did not result in proper startup of the process. | 17:34 |
| ViswaV | But the same argument about overarching 'killall java' applies here as well. If you had to kill, kill the precise process. Not all java. Since you are handling service stop in your patch set, it might be good to handle this case properly as well in the same patch | 17:35 |
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| amrith | ViswaV: +N | 17:37 |
| esp | denis_makogon: ping :) | 17:48 |
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| hub_cap | \\ | 17:58 |
| abramley | / - sorry wrong window | 17:58 |
| hub_cap | ;) i m just giving u a hard time abramley | 18:02 |
| amrith | -.. .... .- - ..--.. | 18:04 |
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| hub_cap | lol amrith | 18:05 |
| glucas | .-.. --- .-.. | 18:06 |
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| amrith | ViswaV: While CASSANDRA_KILL is used in the place you referenced, the reason I made the change is two fold. | 18:11 |
| amrith | a) service cassandra stop does pretty much the same thing | 18:11 |
| amrith | it does it in a more orderly way using start-stop-daemon | 18:12 |
| amrith | b) more importantly, if cassandra uses some other method at a later time, you get that automatically | 18:12 |
| amrith | What we know from the doc is that they recommend using service cassandra stop for a cluster | 18:12 |
| amrith | similar to service cassandra start to start it in the first place. | 18:12 |
| amrith | hope that makes sense. | 18:12 |
| ViswaV | amrith: I am totally with you . When stopping "service stop cassandra" should be used and not killall java as I mentioned in the comment. What I also want bring attention to, is that elsewhere in the same file CASSANDRA_KILL is defined (which also uses 'killall java'). My point is that as part of the same patch set, may be that command can also be fixed to use a more precise kill command instead of 'killall java'. You could debate | 18:16 |
| ViswaV | whether CASSANDRA_KILL cmd is needed at all. May be not. But I can see (based on where it is being used), that it is to be used in the context when 'start service' did not result in proper starting, but a hanged process (which may not be terminated by issuing service stop). So I can see the justification for that. Just wanted to ensure that cmd is also made safe (kill cassandra's java process and not killall java) | 18:16 |
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| amrith | which is what service cassandra stop will do ;) | 18:17 |
| hub_cap | i vote 'sudo init 0' for c* stop | 18:26 |
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| amrith | hub_cap: believe it or not, that would cause someone to call 'service cassandra stop', not "killall java". just saying ;) | 18:29 |
| hub_cap | lol u are correct :) | 18:29 |
| hub_cap | but it will prolly do other things too ;) | 18:29 |
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| amrith | let me check. logging into main computer running the internet to check what "sudo init 0" does | 18:31 |
| hub_cap | hahahah | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | lol | 18:31 |
| amrith | amrith is now offline | 18:31 |
| hub_cap | bye bye everyon! | 18:31 |
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| glucas | hub_cap: c* seems too vague, how about c7a :) | 18:33 |
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| hub_cap | lolll | 18:34 |
| amrith | amrith is back online | 18:39 |
| amrith | so that's what "init 0" does | 18:39 |
| hub_cap | lol | 18:40 |
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