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| dmakogon | vipul, ping | 05:38 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, i've answered to you complains about guestagent refactoring, it would be nice to hear anything from you))) | 05:39 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, have you read that ?))) | 06:07 |
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| datsun180b | sheesh, we have two pages of reviews | 14:44 |
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| away_dude | hub_cap, if we are going to use only heat, why do we need to use dib, we can use heat image builder with help of jeos | 15:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Shestakov proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add support of datastore types this changes depends on new version of troveclient, which is not megged yet and tests will dont pass https://review.openstack.org/47934 | 16:52 |
| ashestakov | hub_cap: grapex vipul SlickNik ^ ^ | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add tests for hosts mgmt commands https://review.openstack.org/52713 | 16:56 |
| grapex | ashestakov: I'll try to look at that soon. Thanks! | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: adding configuration group support https://review.openstack.org/53168 | 17:00 |
| cp16net | oh shit | 17:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: adds support for configurations management https://review.openstack.org/53169 | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: adds support for configurations management https://review.openstack.org/53169 | 17:13 |
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| hub_cap | at a conference today, im not really here fwiw if anyone tries to get ahold of me | 17:15 |
| cp16net | hub_cap: ^^^ | 17:17 |
| juice | hub_cap: can you look at 4 reviews today? | 17:17 |
| cp16net | bam! | 17:17 |
| juice | :P | 17:17 |
| hub_cap | juice: yes of course, hold your breath | 17:17 |
| cp16net | Bender: This is the worst kind of discrimination - the kind against me! | 17:17 |
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| hub_cap | cp16net: nice. im not gonna look @ it | 17:18 |
| hub_cap | i trust u, ill just -2 it now | 17:18 |
| * juice is turning blue | 17:18 | |
| hub_cap | juice: is becoming grapejuice | 17:19 |
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| juice | ha…ha……ha - you so funny hub_cap :) | 17:24 |
| * hub_cap is hilarious | 17:27 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Basnight proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Fixing copyright and license headers https://review.openstack.org/53176 | 17:29 |
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| hub_cap | SlickNik: vipul grapex ^ ^ we need to get this reviewed and merged cuz of the debian ftp master email chain going out | 17:30 |
| hub_cap | vipul: SlickNik i only saw one 2 files w HP in the copyright. if u need to add more plz add and push to this branch quickly this am | 17:31 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Did auth need to move as part of this particular commit? | 17:36 |
| hub_cap | grapex: auth was unused. i forgot to remove it. so i guess technically not, if u like i can post a followup commit w/ it | 17:36 |
| hub_cap | i did some cleanup along w/ the copyright "stuff" | 17:36 |
| grapex | hub_cap: I +2'd, but if you could make it two commits that would be cool | 17:37 |
| grapex | I know this has been talked about a lot on the mailing list so I don't want to impede it | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Basnight proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Removing unused files with new client https://review.openstack.org/53179 | 17:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Basnight proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Fixing copyright and license headers https://review.openstack.org/53176 | 17:48 |
| vipul | hub_cap: so that patch only contains the files missing the copyright? | 17:49 |
| hub_cap | vipul: now it does | 17:49 |
| hub_cap | i just broke it up into 2 commits | 17:49 |
| hub_cap | the 2nd commit removes a few files that were unused | 17:50 |
| hub_cap | ok break brb | 17:50 |
| vipul | hub_cap: I'll add HP copyright to files where we had some contributinos | 17:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add tests for hosts mgmt commands https://review.openstack.org/52713 | 18:00 |
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| hub_cap | vipul: plz do | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | vipul: can u be present at the openstack project status meeting today for me? | 18:07 |
| vipul | when's that? | 18:07 |
| hub_cap | vipul: 2100 UTC | 18:08 |
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| vipul | hub_cap: :p making me convert that | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | 2pm cdt | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | no im nice ;) | 18:08 |
| vipul | Ok so 12 my time :P | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | SHT | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | pdt | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | 2pm pdt | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | sry | 18:08 |
| vipul | you so confusing | 18:08 |
| vipul | ok i'll be there | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | vipul: i maaaaay be back | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | its lunch time for the conference (well its at the end, im not 100% sure ill be around tho) | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | if im back ill hit uup | 18:09 |
| vipul | you're still at some conf? | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | a diffrent conf | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | last wk was redis, this wk is ansible, im learning more than anything else at this one | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | sry its only today | 18:10 |
| vipul | yea it's the latest cool kid | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | got a free pass, so i came... i think itll make its way into heat in some form or fashion | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | so id like to understand it | 18:11 |
| vipul | cool - it's in the bay? | 18:11 |
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| hub_cap | its _at_ the rax office | 18:12 |
| hub_cap | hard to say no | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Vipul Sabhaya proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Fixing copyright and license headers https://review.openstack.org/53176 | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | vipul: thanks for pushing out the HP copyrights. | 18:43 |
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| imsplitbit | replication and clustering | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | hub_cap: ^^ | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | vipul-away: ^^ | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | SlickNik: ^^ | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | grapex: ^^ | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | err-body ^^ | 19:46 |
| imsplitbit | I just want all your minds on replication and clustering | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-troveclient: Fixing copyright and license headers https://review.openstack.org/53176 | 19:50 |
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| ashestakov | imsplitbit: wiki for clustering is true for now? | 20:12 |
| dmakogon | ashestakov, you mean complete ? | 20:14 |
| imsplitbit | ashestakov: it is WIP | 20:15 |
| imsplitbit | but ready for discussion | 20:15 |
| imsplitbit | it's complete enough to start really thinking through some edge cases | 20:15 |
| imsplitbit | some of the smaller calls aren't stubbed out with examples | 20:16 |
| imsplitbit | but I feel like the gist of the message is clear | 20:16 |
| imsplitbit | so if it isn't then we can talk it out on the ML and I can clarify | 20:16 |
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| ashestakov | imsplitbit: i didnt read updated version yet, but i want to know what kind of mysql replication will implemented | 20:26 |
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| ashestakov | ashestakov: master-slave, master-master (active-active, active-passive), galera? | 20:28 |
| ashestakov | will it support multiple replicas with master, or replica of replica | 20:29 |
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| vipul | imsplitbit: So the multi-master example at the top.. how does one create that | 20:40 |
| vipul | imsplitbit: Is it the same as what's defined for repllication at the bottom (create instance 1, creates another instance, as separate calls) | 20:40 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, hi | 20:43 |
| vipul | hola dmakogon | 20:43 |
| dmakogon | vipul, have you read my comment ? | 20:43 |
| vipul | dmakogon: Yes - and I am wondering why we decided against having a common interface for Guest manager | 20:44 |
| vipul | I am not saying we have an interface that throws NotImlemented() everywhere | 20:45 |
| vipul | I'm saying we have a single entry point... | 20:45 |
| dmakogon | vipul, what would be the value-add of suggested by you change ? | 20:45 |
| vipul | It would be a contract that every typed manager would know to implement | 20:46 |
| vipul | currently.. that contract is defined for every typed manager | 20:46 |
| vipul | so if you're writing something for Cassandra - you look at the procedures implmeneted in mysql/manager and essentially copy them | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | vipul: ib here | 20:47 |
| vipul | hub_cap: thanks dude.. saves me from going there | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | ya its gonna be planning for the summit hour | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | might still be worth a read | 20:47 |
| vipul | Ok i'll be on | 20:47 |
| vipul | dmakogon: there are also common things.. take for example the prepare() method.. | 20:48 |
| dmakogon | vipul, contract - https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/api.py | 20:48 |
| vipul | dmakogon: every service needs to worry about handling the volume | 20:48 |
| dmakogon | vipul, we already have nice plugins in GA | 20:48 |
| vipul | dmakogon: tell me how you'd handle formatting, mounting a volume that's presented to the Guest, without duplicating the code in all managers | 20:49 |
| dmakogon | vipul, manager is atomic unit in database handling | 20:49 |
| ashestakov | imsplitbit: vipul: can we discuss clustering in ML? | 20:49 |
| vipul | dmakogon: elaborate | 20:50 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, you suggesting another layer which would not do anything, only delegates calls | 20:50 |
| vipul | dmakogon: for the most part yes - but it could also do common things before delegating | 20:51 |
| vipul | dmakogon: such as taking care of prepareing the volume for the db | 20:51 |
| dmakogon | vipul, with python duck-typing it would be another file, not even interface in terms of interfaces(java) | 20:51 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, there is one or two such functions, they could be externalized into guestagent/common | 20:52 |
| dmakogon | vipul, but not in whole new layer of call delegating | 20:53 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, each import by name/class/module is heavy | 20:53 |
| vipul | it's a one time cost though | 20:54 |
| dmakogon | vipul, but not we are avoiding it, be telling that datastore manager is atomic and cannot be part of something and vice versa | 20:55 |
| dmakogon | vipul, my typo, now we avoiding it | 20:56 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, so my point is that we already have contract described by GA API, we propaply have few funtions that can be common, conclusion: we don't need another layer, we need to separate common stuff ant this common stuff is much less then threshold for a whole new layer | 21:00 |
| dmakogon | vipul, i can be agreed when we would have versioning | 21:00 |
| dmakogon | vipul, under each manager we would have to rule how to act with this on that version of datastore | 21:01 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, do we came into agreement ? | 21:02 |
| vipul | dmakogon: I'm ok with leaving it as is.. there is value in making a Manager self-contained | 21:02 |
| vipul | there is also value in having a single entry point where common things can be handled by the framework | 21:02 |
| vipul | rather than having every manager have to also deal with the same problem | 21:03 |
| dmakogon | vipul, yes, that is what i said) | 21:03 |
| dmakogon | vipul, good to see that we are agreed | 21:03 |
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| dmakogon | vipul, now there is one more thing, review | 21:04 |
| vipul | I won't hold up your patch on this - but I think we need to discuss maybe at tomorrow's meeting | 21:04 |
| dmakogon | vipul, could it pass through ? | 21:04 |
| dmakogon | vipul, maybe | 21:04 |
| dmakogon | vipul, i'll prepare some statements and would go through code to see what could be separated to common stuff of GA | 21:05 |
| hub_cap | there is a lot of common code, preparing the volume if psesent | 21:06 |
| hub_cap | the fact that it "installs", "adds configuration data", and "restarts if needed" | 21:06 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, each manager has those func | 21:07 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, but they are dictated by API | 21:07 |
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| dmakogon | hub_cap, i said that we do not need new layer of abstraction since python is duck-typing lang and has no interfaces at all | 21:09 |
| hub_cap | not true | 21:09 |
| hub_cap | if we can reduce the common code ot being executed in one place, that is best | 21:09 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, please explain | 21:09 |
| hub_cap | then you have a bug in one place rather than N, one for each service | 21:09 |
| hub_cap | and in this case there is common code for all managers | 21:10 |
| hub_cap | volume being one common thing | 21:10 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, hm i see | 21:10 |
| hub_cap | if we find a bug in the volume provisioning, we have to fix it for every impl right now | 21:10 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, but (!) guestagent developed that specific way when exceptions are happening in managers | 21:11 |
| hub_cap | and if we wanted to turn off volume provisioining for a particular service that code could still reside in the common prepare code | 21:11 |
| hub_cap | im not sure that matters... im just sayign a bug is in one place, rather than 3 | 21:11 |
| dmakogon | with another abstract layer we would delegate wrong call to imported manager | 21:11 |
| dmakogon | so, we still have N errors | 21:11 |
| hub_cap | thats another bug | 21:12 |
| hub_cap | and it can be fixed in 1 place | 21:12 |
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| vipul | hub_cap: +1 i think a single entry point is ideal | 21:13 |
| dmakogon | vipul, hub_cap : API layer should deal with that kind of use cases | 21:14 |
| vipul | which api layer | 21:14 |
| hub_cap | api layer is executed from the tasmgr | 21:14 |
| dmakogon | vipul, hub_cap: manager doesn't know anything about volume support at all | 21:15 |
| dmakogon | so, taskmanager should deal with that usecases | 21:15 |
| hub_cap | zigo: around? | 21:16 |
| hub_cap | dmakogon: it sends down a flag to the prepare, i believe | 21:16 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, vipul: until we would not have full use cases list we don't need single entry point | 21:16 |
| vipul | dmakogon: taskmanager can't do anything with the volume, it's local to the guest | 21:16 |
| hub_cap | unless u are saying the taskmgr must send sync calls to the guest to wait for a volume to provision, and then to install mysql (sync) etc | 21:16 |
| hub_cap | is that what you mean? | 21:17 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/api.py#L215-L217 | 21:17 |
| hub_cap | right that sends a async call to the guest | 21:18 |
| dmakogon | vipul, taskmanager creates volumes | 21:18 |
| hub_cap | to do "installing" | 21:18 |
| vipul | dmakogon: it creates the volume via a Nova API... but it can't format / move data onto that volume | 21:18 |
| hub_cap | what you are proposing when u say "taskmanager should deal with that usecases" is that the taskmgr now has to send sync messages to the guest to complete the pieces of prepare, for instance if it needs to prov a volume | 21:18 |
| hub_cap | vipul: yes i mean to say format | 21:19 |
| hub_cap | sry | 21:19 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, how single entry point would deal with it ? how it would help / | 21:20 |
| dmakogon | ? | 21:20 |
| hub_cap | sec | 21:20 |
| hub_cap | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/manager/mysql.py#L96 | 21:21 |
| hub_cap | that code will be common to all prepare() methods | 21:21 |
| vipul | there would be a single place where that logic would be executed... and then the remaining provisionng would be delegated to the typed manager | 21:21 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, it could be done with common func, we don't need whole new layer for that | 21:22 |
| hub_cap | and each new impl will have to copy the code from the impl before, even if its one line | 21:23 |
| hub_cap | it still makes you have "extra" code | 21:23 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, it would be separate func https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/manager/mysql.py#L95-L111 | 21:23 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, do you agreed for that ? | 21:24 |
| dmakogon | *with that | 21:24 |
| hub_cap | i agree it should be, but if now lets say we add a second thing every manager does | 21:24 |
| hub_cap | like port changing, for instance | 21:24 |
| hub_cap | and installing configuration files | 21:25 |
| hub_cap | then u have 3 things that are, like you say, separate functions | 21:25 |
| hub_cap | and every manager has to have all 3 as the first 3 things it does | 21:25 |
| hub_cap | and we decide to refactor the App and AppStatus, now we have to update all the impls (im not exactly sure the state of the differences there but im just making a point) | 21:26 |
| dmakogon | if API supports it - managers should have it | 21:26 |
| hub_cap | im just saying that a bunch of the logic / code in the prepare method, in particular, is common across impls | 21:26 |
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| dmakogon | hub_cap, yes, i'm agree, but this is not the reason to elaborate another abstraction layer | 21:27 |
| hub_cap | i disagree. if there is code that is common to the behavior of the guest application, it does not need to be in every impl | 21:28 |
| hub_cap | even as common methods | 21:28 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, for now its a code re-usability issue | 21:28 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, and duplicating | 21:28 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, i agree with that, 100% | 21:29 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, we need less code and more usage of it | 21:29 |
| hub_cap | ++ | 21:30 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, seems like we finally came into suggestion, yes ? | 21:31 |
| hub_cap | im not sure we are in agreement.. can u summarize in a gist for me? Im in the weekly openstack project meeting | 21:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Cranford proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Adds conductor to redstack start and stop https://review.openstack.org/52693 | 21:38 |
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| dmakogon | hub_cap, https://gist.github.com/crazymac/7108707 | 21:44 |
| dmakogon | vipul, https://gist.github.com/crazymac/7108707 | 21:44 |
| hub_cap | wow vipul the design summit and the conference are 1600ft (500m) away from each other | 21:46 |
| datsun180b | nice use of sig figs in your conversion | 21:46 |
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| kui | How to deal with reddwarf failure? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51954/ | 21:48 |
| hub_cap | :) | 21:48 |
| hub_cap | hi kui i can help | 21:48 |
| hub_cap | i can restart that job | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | i'll retrigger if you're not already doing it | 21:49 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: plz do | 21:49 |
| hub_cap | we were voting on one or two scheds for the conference | 21:49 |
| datsun180b | just looking over the console | 21:49 |
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| kui | Thanks you | 21:50 |
| datsun180b | 404 on a flavor 4? strange | 21:50 |
| hub_cap | kui: thank you for contributing to troveclient | 21:51 |
| hub_cap | ive got a review that deletes xml.py and auth.py in troveclient/ | 21:51 |
| kui | My pleasure | 21:51 |
| hub_cap | but it might land after your patches do | 21:51 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50944/ | 21:51 |
| hub_cap | so dont worry about updatign those | 21:51 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, could you please review that one at your meeting-free time ? | 21:53 |
| hub_cap | yes ill review today dmakogon | 21:53 |
| datsun180b | i didn't think hub_cap had any time he didn't spend in a meeting anymore | 21:53 |
| dmakogon | hub_cap, thanks for that, ;) | 21:53 |
| dmakogon | datsun180b, overtiming ? | 21:54 |
| datsun180b | see he's not jabbing back because he's in a meeting now c: | 21:54 |
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| hub_cap | hehe ya | 21:55 |
| dmakogon | ok ) | 21:55 |
| hub_cap | and scheduling our summit sessions | 21:55 |
| dmakogon | oh, summit =( | 21:55 |
| hub_cap | yup | 21:56 |
| dmakogon | cu guys tomorrow | 21:56 |
| kui | Should we add description in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Test_Failures for the reddwarf failure ? | 21:56 |
| datsun180b | didn't get any feedback on my proposal for "Why we in Trove are better than everyone else at everything, including kung fu" | 21:56 |
| dmakogon | datsun180b, it that for me ? | 21:56 |
| datsun180b | no that was my imaginary summit proposal | 21:56 |
| dmakogon | ah | 21:57 |
| datsun180b | guess they figured i'd need more than an hour to detail why we're so great. probably need another hour just to teach everyone the theme song | 21:57 |
| dmakogon | datsun180b, i'd like to discuss it with blackjack and women | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | dmakogon: great idea! you know what, forget the summit | 21:58 |
| hub_cap | lol | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | where's craig's <Bender> when you need him | 21:59 |
| dmakogon | datsun180b, probably gone ? | 21:59 |
| dmakogon | so, nevermind | 21:59 |
| hub_cap | Bender: Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourself! | 21:59 |
| datsun180b | there we go | 21:59 |
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| hub_cap | cu | 22:00 |
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| datsun180b | kui worth a shot, our "recheck no bug" is a bad habit corrected too late | 22:01 |
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| kui | reddwarf is separated from jenkins, "recheck no bug" has no effect for reddwarf | 22:03 |
| datsun180b | oh you mean the job that i had to retrigger? | 22:03 |
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| hub_cap | kui: correct. we have not yet put the reddwarf tests into the -infra teams jenkins yet | 22:03 |
| hub_cap | its my priority though to do it, but it requires a good bit of pre-work | 22:04 |
| datsun180b | see if i stall enough someone who knows what they're talking about will show up | 22:04 |
| datsun180b | in the meantime i don't mind retriggering these things to help while i can | 22:04 |
| kui | Can developer trigger reddwarf freely when there is failure ? | 22:04 |
| datsun180b | no, you have to be in an old group whose existence and membership are under discussion | 22:05 |
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| hub_cap | they cant yet but they should be able to when we migrate to -infra running it | 22:05 |
| kui | OK, got it. | 22:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Basnight proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Removing unused files with new client https://review.openstack.org/53179 | 23:14 |
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| hub_cap | vipul: SlickNik i must go for travel back to berkeley, plz review your summit talks, and put a bit more meat and potatoes to them. ill create the etherpads and we can make sure to add topics to them. grapex ill create that etherpad for u too | 23:34 |
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| hub_cap | peace all | 23:34 |
| SlickNik | alright, hub_cap. | 23:35 |
| SlickNik | later | 23:35 |
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