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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Fix Aodh-alarm-evaluator recreates deleted alarms in some cases https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 02:44 |
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* liusheng sigh, gate is still broken | 03:12 | |
liamji | liusheng: it seems to have some problems with Gnocchi? | 03:43 |
liamji | :( | 03:44 |
liusheng | liamji: because miss uuid-runtime installation | 03:44 |
openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Fix Aodh-alarm-evaluator recreates deleted alarms in some cases https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 03:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/gnocchi: devstack: allow gnocchi-api to run on different host from keystone https://review.openstack.org/294404 | 06:06 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/292715 | 06:10 |
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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Fix Aodh-alarm-evaluator recreates deleted alarms in some cases https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 06:27 |
openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/ceilometer: devstack: allow ceilometer-api and keystone to run on different hosts https://review.openstack.org/294420 | 06:36 |
Gautam | Is there a way to get aggregated number of vcpu metric per user from ceilometer(API) using collected vcpu metrics. The idea is to get total vcpu metric consumed by instances deployed by the user. I know this is easier to get from Nova, just wanted to check if this possible from ceilometer. | 06:36 |
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llu | anyone know how long does it take for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294233/ make effect? gnocchi gate is blocking itself and ceilometer | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Fix Aodh-alarm-evaluator recreates deleted alarms in some cases https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 07:28 |
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openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Fix Aodh-alarm-evaluator recreates deleted alarms in some cases https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 08:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/ceilometer: devstack: allow ceilometer-api and keystone to run on different hosts https://review.openstack.org/294420 | 08:29 |
openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/gnocchi: devstack: allow gnocchi-api to run on different host from keystone https://review.openstack.org/294404 | 08:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-aodhclient: Add name support for show, update and delete https://review.openstack.org/292305 | 09:09 |
openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/aodh: add missing hbase requirement https://review.openstack.org/294470 | 09:19 |
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zqfan | hi, is there any reason that we skip hbase test in aodh, I know it is deprecated, and once jd__ has found hbase introduces some issue blocks the ci | 09:20 |
zqfan | but now the ci enables hbase test, but skip most of them, which seems only some kind of resource waste | 09:21 |
zqfan | and hide bug in patch https://review.openstack.org/290964 | 09:23 |
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cdent | jd__: I had the exact same thought about ptl non-canidacy messages | 10:44 |
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jd__ | cdent: you know what they say about great minds | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: ceph: Try to reduce lock contention https://review.openstack.org/293990 | 11:48 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: tools: Add tools to quickly add measurements https://review.openstack.org/294537 | 11:48 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove SERVICE_TENANT_NAME from devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/294557 | 12:24 |
jd__ | sileht: did you see my comment about the dead lock retry to merged in the previous patchset btw? | 12:27 |
sileht | jd__, Yes I keep separatly until I sure it works :) | 12:28 |
jd__ | ok! | 12:28 |
sileht | jd__, I have added a comment on the previous patch about the reason of the deadlock | 12:28 |
sileht | jd__, did you see it ? | 12:28 |
jd__ | not yet | 12:28 |
jd__ | I'm gonna check it right now | 12:29 |
jd__ | I spend my yesterday rewriting overtest in Python -_- | 12:29 |
jd__ | poor choice of life | 12:29 |
sileht | ahah | 12:30 |
sileht | jd__, I have passed one day to use rados_lock instead of xattr in ceph, this morning I have bench it, it was worse as before, I check why in ceph code, ceph uses xattr to store locks info... | 12:31 |
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jd__ | I saw that indeed | 12:33 |
sileht | jd__, so I will start to replace xattr by omap, omap allow to configure the lock in our case, we don't about attributes values, so I will put SKIPRWLOCKS everywhere | 12:33 |
jd__ | and gordc has posted good report on the threading system we use | 12:33 |
jd__ | sileht: that sounds like a good lead | 12:33 |
jd__ | sileht: we can have that in 2.1? | 12:33 |
sileht | jd__, I dunno, I will write a PoC first to ensure it's better, I always got surprise with ceph | 12:34 |
sileht | jd__, and also this will add cradox as hard requirements to got omap support with old Ceph cluster | 12:34 |
jd__ | btw I asked -infra for uuidgen, and the images are still not being refreshed for whatever reason | 12:34 |
jd__ | sileht: fair enough, though we need to check with pradk how cradox is packaed | 12:34 |
jd__ | packaged | 12:34 |
sileht | jd__, currently is not :) | 12:34 |
jd__ | so we need him/someone to do it ASAP :) | 12:35 |
pradk | jd__, i'll take a look at it, how soon do you need? | 12:36 |
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sileht | jd__, about the deadlock, are you ok to merge the code with RetryOnDeadlock now, and then try to improve the 'drop table' to not trigger the deadlock | 12:37 |
jd__ | "The issue seems only occurs with postgres :(" | 12:39 |
jd__ | dude, that's because MySQL probably does not enforce anything lol | 12:39 |
sileht | jd__, I think this is because Mysql lock the whole DB during drop table operation :p | 12:39 |
jd__ | haha | 12:39 |
jd__ | sileht: actually I had a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269844/30/gnocchi/indexer/sqlalchemy.py and you did not reply | 12:41 |
jd__ | I was not sure the RLock was needed | 12:41 |
jd__ | at least for _cache | 12:41 |
jd__ | but I guess you need to make Base.metadata thread safe since SQLAlchemy does not do it for you | 12:41 |
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sileht | exactly | 12:43 |
gordc | is that what the lock is for? to make thread safe? i don't really have problem merging. i just have a feeling multiple processes will make it possible to have multiple actions at same time. | 12:44 |
gordc | including drop. | 12:44 |
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jd__ | gordc: yes but the Base.metadata object is local to a process | 12:56 |
jd__ | so we need to protect it because our work on it is not atomic | 12:57 |
jd__ | we iterates over the table and THEN create_all() | 12:57 |
jd__ | which means 2 thread could to the same thing | 12:57 |
jd__ | if 2 processes do the same it's not a big deal since it's not the same Base object :) | 12:57 |
jd__ | we just want to avoid to have a corrupted Python object | 12:58 |
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jd__ | s/to have/having/ | 12:58 |
gordc | jd__: ah i see. makes more sense now. | 12:58 |
jd__ | yeah it was not obvious to me neither at first read | 12:59 |
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gordc | someone can approve. not sure if uuidgen issue is fixed | 12:59 |
jd__ | it's not fixed | 12:59 |
gordc | super | 12:59 |
jd__ | and I wanted to have the @retrydeadlock patch merged with that one | 12:59 |
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jd__ | -infra said the images are not refreshed yet | 12:59 |
jd__ | viva el cloud | 12:59 |
sileht | jd__, I will update it soon | 12:59 |
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jd__ | sileht: yeah take your timeā¦ THE GATE IS BROKEN | 12:59 |
jd__ | :] | 13:00 |
jd__ | subtle hint | 13:00 |
jd__ | gonna grab a coffee and make some more python | 13:00 |
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gordc | coffee is good idea. | 13:01 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: remove unused field 'triggers' defined in sample event_pipeline.yaml https://review.openstack.org/294582 | 13:10 |
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jmlowe | Am I being led astray by the docs, I'm trying to get compute node stats but after setting compute_monitors I see warnings "Excluding nova.compute.monitors.cpu monitor virt_driver. Not in the list of enabled monitors (CONF.compute_monitors)." | 13:37 |
jmlowe | ? | 13:38 |
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gordc | jmlowe: no idea. you'll need to ask that in nova. | 13:43 |
jd__ | gordc: is the uuidgen stuff fixed or you are randomly trying? | 13:44 |
gordc | jd__: randomly trying.lol | 13:44 |
gordc | AJaeger is looking at it for us | 13:44 |
jd__ | ack | 13:45 |
gordc | 09:39 < AJaeger> new images will be build and uploaded automatically startedn at 15:00 UTC but it takes a few hours to upload all... | 13:45 |
gordc | so i guess we need to wait for a few hours... and then a few hours more. | 13:45 |
gordc | i'm going to sleep | 13:45 |
jd__ | sounds like a plan | 13:46 |
nicodemus_ | morning | 13:48 |
gordc | morning | 13:50 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 13:50 |
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openstackgerrit | litong01 proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add http publisher https://review.openstack.org/290624 | 13:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 13:57 |
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nicodemus_ | gordc, if you have a moment... I'd like to ask you about a presentation we found, "Stabilizing the Jenga tower: Scaling out Ceilometer" | 14:06 |
nicodemus_ | more specifically, the lambda design | 14:07 |
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gordc | nicodemus_: sure. | 14:14 |
nicodemus_ | the one thing I don't quite understand about such design, is how to make the ceilometer agent to push measurements to two different queues | 14:15 |
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gordc | oh. it's all done by pipeline. | 14:16 |
nicodemus_ | gordc, http://www.slideshare.net/praddevel/stabilizing-the-jenga-tower-scaling-out-ceilometer | 14:16 |
gordc | in your pipeline, there is notifier:// publisher in sink | 14:16 |
gordc | by default it publishes to 'metering' topic | 14:17 |
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gordc | but you can also add multiple publishers and configure it to publish to another topic. | 14:17 |
gordc | ie notifier://?topic=<new_topic> | 14:18 |
nicodemus_ | sweet | 14:18 |
nicodemus_ | so I could poll at a long interval for billing purposes, and poll also every five minutes and publish to a second queue/separate infrastructure for live metrics | 14:19 |
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gordc | in theory yes. | 14:19 |
gordc | you need to play around with source and sink configurations to do that but yeah, it's possible | 14:20 |
gordc | you'll need multiple collectors or consumers though. a collector can only listen to one topic currently. | 14:20 |
nicodemus_ | do you think that could be a good strategy for scaling? | 14:21 |
nicodemus_ | because we changed out pipeline to poll every 20 mins, since for billing we don't need the measures to be that frequent | 14:23 |
nicodemus_ | but would be nice to also have points every 5 minutes or so for live metrics | 14:24 |
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gordc | depends what you're trying to scale? it is a common architecture pattern so it might be useful | 14:25 |
nicodemus_ | in our case scenario, testing showed that having a 5-minute polling with a single archive policy generated too much data for processing | 14:27 |
jd__ | is this a single archive policy with 10 lines definition like you used to have? :) | 14:28 |
nicodemus_ | yes, only it has eight | 14:28 |
nicodemus_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/491112/ | 14:29 |
gordc | yeah, that's 64 calculations each datapoint | 14:30 |
nicodemus_ | perhaps if we have one gnocchi api/metricd with a long-term, long polling period and a second collector/gnocchi api/metricd/ceph pool with another short term archive policy... we could better scale | 14:30 |
nicodemus_ | plus the short-term archive policy needs only to have median for aggregation method | 14:30 |
nicodemus_ | (yesterday we changed the first definition from 5-minute granularity to 20 min) | 14:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 14:35 |
gordc | nicodemus_: i don't think it's the actual granularity that is the issue. i think it's partly because it needs to do 8 aggregate calculations across 8 archive policies for each datapoint of a metric | 14:35 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 14:37 |
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nicodemus_ | gordc, yes, come to think about it... it is too much to process | 14:39 |
nicodemus_ | another thing I'd like to ask, is it possible to enable polling on a per-instance basis? Meaning: collect measures from instance A but not B ? | 14:41 |
gordc | but yeah, i'm not sure what will happen if you split short term and long term data. it might work. | 14:41 |
gordc | nicodemus_: nope. it's been something that was requested a while (years) ago. we just couldn't figure out a good way to control it. | 14:42 |
gordc | nicodemus_: similar: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/project-based-data-collection-configuration | 14:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add some resource types tests https://review.openstack.org/270419 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements resource attribute number https://review.openstack.org/270091 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements resource attribute bool https://review.openstack.org/270418 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements resource attribute uuid https://review.openstack.org/270090 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Don't create Ceilometer resource types by default. https://review.openstack.org/270322 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Move legacy Ceilometer resource into indexer. https://review.openstack.org/270266 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements resource type CRUD. https://review.openstack.org/269844 | 14:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements resource attribute string https://review.openstack.org/269888 | 14:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: tools: Add tools to quickly add measurements https://review.openstack.org/294537 | 14:54 |
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jmlowe | for the life of me I can't seem to figure out how to get CPU related meters from the compute host machines into gnocchi, is there a howto somewhere, has somebody else successfully done this? | 15:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | litong01 proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add http publisher https://review.openstack.org/290624 | 16:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Use omap insteads of xattr https://review.openstack.org/294598 | 16:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Fix an IN-predicate SAWarning https://review.openstack.org/294711 | 16:47 |
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jmlowe | ok, can somebody explain exactly where my measurements are going? from he central log "Polling pollster hardware.network.incoming.bytes in the context of meter_snmp", this is the last trace I see before it disappears? | 19:14 |
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jmlowe | why doesn't it just go into the meter_sink and off to the collector for storage by the dispatcher? | 19:17 |
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jmlowe | ha, I knew something was off "rabbitmqctl list_queues |grep metering | 19:47 |
jmlowe | metering.sample942564" | 19:47 |
jmlowe | now I have no idea what to do about it | 19:47 |
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gordc | jmlowe: that means your collector isn't reading from that queue OR it's reading very very slowly for some reason | 20:20 |
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jmlowe | looks like not enough api workers for gnocchi | 20:26 |
gordc | jmlowe: yeah, you need to customise number of processes/threads | 20:34 |
jmlowe | I should probably figure out how to run it under apache | 20:35 |
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nicodemus_ | jmlowe, maybe this could help: http://paste.openstack.org/show/491157/ | 20:40 |
jmlowe | yep that looks pretty good, thanks | 20:55 |
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nicodemus_ | you need apache-mod-wsgi for it to work | 20:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Atul Aggarwal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing Retry logic to Coordination when joining partitioning grp https://review.openstack.org/294244 | 22:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Added docs about new snmp related resource types https://review.openstack.org/293917 | 22:57 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/aodh: Use assertIn and assertNotIn for test https://review.openstack.org/293439 | 23:03 |
openstackgerrit | Atul Aggarwal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing Retry logic to Coordination when joining partitioning grp https://review.openstack.org/294244 | 23:30 |
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