| cardoe | Should we look to define approximate EOL dates for the release list? https://releases.openstack.org/ | 00:21 |
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| tkajinam | I wonder what is the view from TC about heat being said can be replaced by modern and nice tools and is useless https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/C4QBCXLQTNT5IASEXU2HZB7T7SFUQUYY/#27AU4X2WJDJDAS5LGNCXPBUUDWE54B2N | 05:20 |
| tkajinam | if that's the agreement then I'll propose retiring the project seriously | 05:21 |
| tkajinam | and telling people to replace heat by anything new and better immediately :-) | 05:22 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Tag value handling for governance repo with note https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/942505 | 11:33 |
| opendevreview | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/governance master: Add TC/PTL results from 2025.2 election https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/942507 | 11:38 |
| cardoe | tkajinam: so its used by other OpenStack components so that'll likely lead to its increased deployment usage. but it's not really wrong from a user perspective. opentofu is all around better. | 14:39 |
| tkajinam | cardoe, that's a good point, but as far as I know magnum, tacker and tripleo are known consumers of heat and total of these components does not really match the one of heat | 14:53 |
| tkajinam | using a cross-cloud tool to manage resources in clouds sounds like a viable approach, though | 14:53 |
| mnasiadka | Magnum is deprecating the Heat driver, so it’s going to disappear in a couple od cycles, maybe earlier | 14:58 |
| mnasiadka | TripleO is retired, right? | 14:58 |
| fungi | yes, this is the approach taken by nodepool/zuul for example, workload state managed outside any particular cloud provider because it's orchestrating resources across many different providers | 14:58 |
| mnasiadka | But opentofu is not going to fix the autoscaling case, unless everybody runs their applications in Kubernetes nowadays | 14:59 |
| cardoe | I've called out to terraform/opentofu before to do autoscaling. | 15:00 |
| mnasiadka | Right, but that’s a bit different than what you have with Heat today - I’m not against retiring Heat :) | 15:03 |
| tkajinam | if you have a tool to orchestrate resources across clouds then you may have a different tool to monitor workload across the cluster and implement autoscaling outside of the cloud (theoretically) | 15:07 |
| JayF | Ironic is ready for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939278 to land, please :) | 15:24 |
| JayF | TC is core for openstackdocstheme, yeah? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstackdocstheme/+/942525 fixes a search issue and needs another core review | 16:46 |
| gouthamr | JayF: tc isn't core, gtema is | 17:18 |
| fungi | well, more specifically, openstackdocstheme is an oslo deliverable at the moment | 17:53 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Deprecate ironic-lib https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939278 | 17:53 |
| JayF | ack | 17:55 |
| gouthamr | tc-members: can i have a few more eyes on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/941935 ? | 19:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Deprecate ironic-lib https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-manuals/+/939281 | 19:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Switch Ironic to Distributed Leadership https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/941935 | 20:32 |
| spotz[m] | I think there's still lots of folks using Heat | 21:41 |
| spotz[m] | I might be biased though I was the Heat system engineer at Rackspace though;) | 21:42 |
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