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| knikolla | o/ Apologies, I’m sick with a fever today and won’t be able to chair the TC meeting. I’ll ping JayF to see if he is able to do it in my place. | 13:01 |
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| fungi | oh no, hope you feel better soon! | 13:06 |
| JayF | It looks like the TC meeting agenda is outdated and wasn't emailed out; I'm clearing it of items. If any of the items from last week needed another round, I apologize in advance | 14:40 |
| JayF | tc-members: Weekly meeting in 63 minutes :) | 16:57 |
| spotz[m] | o/ | 17:55 |
| JayF | hello | 18:00 |
| JayF | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | JayF: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 18:00 |
| JayF | #startmeeting tc | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Sep 19 18:00:11 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JayF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 18:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 18:00 |
| JayF | Hello TC members and friends, welcome to today's TC meeting | 18:00 |
| jamespage | o/ | 18:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 18:00 |
| JayF | A reminder that this meeting is held under the OpenInfra Code of Conduct available at https://openinfra.dev/legal/code-of-conduct | 18:00 |
| JayF | Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 18:01 |
| JayF | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
| JayF | o/ | 18:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 18:01 |
| slaweq | o/ | 18:01 |
| JayF | looks like most of you beat me to the punch :D | 18:01 |
| jamespage | o/ | 18:01 |
| JayF | going to give a minute or two for more to join | 18:01 |
| JayF | I'll note knikolla is an expected absense; I hope he gets well soon | 18:02 |
| spotz[m] | o/ for the record | 18:02 |
| JayF | #note No action items from previous meeting. | 18:03 |
| JayF | #topic Gate health check | 18:03 |
| JayF | How is the gate doing? | 18:03 |
| gmann | it is good this week, have not seen much failure | 18:04 |
| JayF | Thank you to those keeping things running smoothly for release. Going to allow a minute or so for anyone to surface any issues before I move to the next topic. | 18:04 |
| dansmith | "much" is subjective, | 18:04 |
| dansmith | but yeah not too bad | 18:04 |
| dansmith | I think the neutron thing is fixed now right? | 18:04 |
| frickler | there was some stestr issue, but it only affected jobs not using u-c | 18:04 |
| frickler | and also was fixed within hours by a new stestr release | 18:05 |
| slaweq | dansmith what neutron thing exactly? | 18:05 |
| gmann | yeah, doc jobs somwhere was having same issue of not using u-c | 18:05 |
| dansmith | there was a test that was failing a lot and there was a fix, revert, etc going on | 18:06 |
| dansmith | this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1940425 | 18:06 |
| gmann | yeah trunk test, it is skipped now | 18:06 |
| dansmith | yeah, so that was a big problem, but cool | 18:06 |
| gmann | i mean marked as unstable so test result is non voting | 18:06 |
| gmann | python 3.11 testing is failing for many projects, https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=openstack-tox-py311&result=POST_FAILURE&result=FAILURE&result=RETRY_LIMIT&result=ERROR&skip=0 | 18:07 |
| gmann | it is going to be voting for next cycle in couple of weeks, I will send another reminder on ML | 18:07 |
| gmann | or try to fix a few if i get time | 18:07 |
| JayF | gmann: many of those are likely to be bindep fixes needed; I'll bookmark that too and try to fix a few. | 18:07 |
| slaweq | dansmith ahh, k | 18:07 |
| gmann | JayF: perfect, thanks | 18:08 |
| JayF | Anything further about gate status? | 18:08 |
| gmann | yeah, there are very less code error and only in few projects | 18:08 |
| fungi | we did end up dropping a stable/stein job for the requirements repo because it was preventing rocky branch cleanup | 18:08 |
| JayF | thanks for cleaning up rocky and reporting about that changed job | 18:09 |
| fungi | requirements was running a sdk source integration job in stein which was parented to a job definition that only lived on stable/rocky | 18:09 |
| fungi | and the other jobs for stein were so busted we ended up just bypassing gating to merge that | 18:09 |
| gmann | yeah, there might be some other project failing for same and solution is simple to swicth to new job | 18:09 |
| JayF | This is the only item on the agenda before open discussion so I'm happy to allow as much time as it needs but I think we've wound down? | 18:11 |
| JayF | #topic Open Discussion and Reviews | 18:11 |
| dansmith | yup | 18:11 |
| JayF | #link https://openinfra.dev/ptg/ Please ensure you have registered for the PTG | 18:12 |
| JayF | and a reminder to have a look at open governance changes #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 18:12 |
| JayF | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 18:12 |
| fungi | also elections close in a little over a day | 18:12 |
| JayF | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 18:12 |
| JayF | there we go, sorry for the spam | 18:12 |
| fungi | i think the election officials were planning to send a mid-poll reminder to openstack-discuss and then got busy with other things, so another nudge might help | 18:13 |
| JayF | looks like there are some meaningful items in governance repo; I will do a review pass after the meeting and suggest others do the same | 18:13 |
| JayF | fungi: it closes in about 27 hours, is it too late already? | 18:13 |
| JayF | I would be +1 to someone from TC or election official sending such a reminder; I'd rather it be someone not running in this election though (e.g. not me) | 18:14 |
| fungi | a one-day-remaining reminder could still do some good to get a few last-minute votes, maybe | 18:14 |
| gmann | election officical send the reminder like 1-2 days before | 18:14 |
| clarkb | fungi's reminder in a meeting I was in this morning prompted me to finally get it done | 18:14 |
| clarkb | so ya I would say remind people now | 18:14 |
| JayF | Given I don't know if there's anyone even active in this meeting on the TC who is not running this cycle; I'll send that email since nobody else has volunteered. | 18:15 |
| clarkb | I don't see any problem iwth candidates reminding people to vote | 18:15 |
| gmann | JayF: or we can remind election official to send | 18:16 |
| gmann | I think ianychoi[m] is pretty much on top of those reminder and notificaiton | 18:16 |
| JayF | gmann: given time constraints I think it's best that it gets done closer to now; and I assume if they missed it like usually is done they are likely busy | 18:16 |
| gmann | ah, yeah. | 18:17 |
| fungi | both officials are in apac usually, so may not be awake yet | 18:17 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: is usually online this time let's see if he reply/send in an hr or so other JayF can send | 18:17 |
| JayF | I'm happy to wait until the top of the hour | 18:17 |
| JayF | I'm going to generally note; I don't show an election reminder email in my openstack-discuss (local) archives for previous elections | 18:18 |
| JayF | Last call for new items for Open Discussion? | 18:19 |
| gmann | seems like there were reminder in election IRC channel on 18and today | 18:19 |
| JayF | Last chance before I close the meeting? | 18:20 |
| clarkb | release is looking happy other than the gate? | 18:20 |
| rosmaita | did anyone have any comments about the openinfra foundation bylaws changes that we talked about last week? | 18:20 |
| gmann | ah yeah, thanks rosmaita for reminder | 18:20 |
| gmann | we will be meeting today, please respond to email if there is more feedback | 18:21 |
| rosmaita | also, i see "voting 24 hours remain" from fungi on 2020-10-12, so there is a precedent | 18:21 |
| spotz[m] | gmann can I get the info for that? I’ll try to attend | 18:22 |
| JayF | Yeah, lets get that foundation meeting in the meeting notes, that's useful | 18:22 |
| gmann | spotz[m]: yeah, i just remineded myself for that, forwarding you | 18:22 |
| JayF | gmann: is there a public link to info about that which I can #link for the minutes? | 18:22 |
| gmann | its zoom call, anyone can join. let me know if you would like to join and I will forward the invite | 18:23 |
| gmann | sure | 18:23 |
| gmann | this is etherpad of discussion #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-tc-charter%2Bbylaws-scratchpad | 18:23 |
| JayF | #note OpenDev Foundation meeting today; TC feedback on bylaws changes due to be consumed. Interested parties can contact gmann for information about how to attend if they wish. | 18:23 |
| fungi | s/opendev/openinfra/ | 18:24 |
| JayF | #undo | 18:24 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 18:24 |
| JayF | The note didn't take? | 18:24 |
| JayF | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 18:24 |
| fungi | i think you wanted info not note | 18:24 |
| JayF | ty | 18:24 |
| JayF | #info OpenInfra Foundation meeting today; TC feedback on bylaws changes due to be consumed. Interested parties can contact gmann for information about how to attend if they wish. | 18:24 |
| JayF | Anything further? | 18:24 |
| frickler | clarkb: regarding the release, the oslo.db situation seems to be well under control, a new release has been proposed that will work with (hopefully) all projects in bobcat | 18:25 |
| clarkb | frickler: excellent | 18:25 |
| dansmith | sweet | 18:25 |
| frickler | thx to stephenfin for doing some reduced semi-reverts there | 18:25 |
| dansmith | I was expecting that to come up here if it wasn't resolved | 18:25 |
| frickler | for castellan I proposed a stack of reverts that still need more reviews | 18:26 |
| * bauzas waves and sits in the back | 18:26 | |
| JayF | I saw those changes, they were great. Thank you all for managing them. | 18:26 |
| JayF | (the oslo.db semi-reverts) | 18:26 |
| gmann | yeah, thanks | 18:26 |
| bauzas | Thanks folks for fixing it | 18:26 |
| frickler | some projects still need their rc1 and branch, but I'm not sure how close we are to the deadline for that | 18:27 |
| fungi | well past | 18:28 |
| JayF | frickler: it's my understanding the final deadline is a week from Friday; Ironic has many of the cycle-with-intermediary projects and we have intentions on cutting releases Thursday. | 18:28 |
| gmann | seems so, I need to do same for tempest | 18:28 |
| fungi | rc1 target week for services was last week | 18:28 |
| fungi | which is when branches are supposed to be created | 18:28 |
| bauzas | yeah we had issues in Nova due to the CI failures | 18:28 |
| frickler | Final RC deadline: September 28th, 2023 (R-1 week) | 18:29 |
| fungi | final rcs are typically >1 and tagged on the stable branch | 18:29 |
| bauzas | That's why we only had the RC1 today | 18:29 |
| JayF | Which is also (in my understanding) the deadline for when cycle-with-intermediary projects need to be branched and released | 18:29 |
| JayF | (28/Sept/2023) | 18:30 |
| JayF | I don't think there's anything actionable in this discussion; things are progressing. | 18:30 |
| fungi | yeah, when i said "for services" i meant cycle-with-milestone or whatever the current name is | 18:30 |
| JayF | fungi: ack; I'm being defensive here because I can't find explicit documentation on when my release is due so I want to know if we are "late" | 18:31 |
| JayF | (I don't think we are, to be claer) | 18:31 |
| fungi | libs and clients were supposed to be branched far earlier | 18:31 |
| fungi | so as of last week almost everything (except with intermediary and trailing) should have been branched | 18:31 |
| JayF | That matches my understanding :D | 18:32 |
| JayF | Is there anything new for open discussion before I close the meeting? | 18:32 |
| JayF | #endmeeting | 18:34 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Sep 19 18:34:23 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:34 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-09-19-18.00.html | 18:34 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-09-19-18.00.txt | 18:34 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-09-19-18.00.log.html | 18:34 |
| JayF | Thank you all o/ | 18:34 |
| rosmaita | thanks Jay! | 18:34 |
| jamespage | thankyou JayF | 18:35 |
| bauzas | Thanks ditto | 18:35 |
| spotz[m] | Thanks jayf | 18:37 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Retire winstacker: remove doc ref https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-manuals/+/894447 | 18:38 |
| JayF | ianychoi[m]: and others; please ping me if you send an election reminder email; otherwise I have one in my outbox to hit "send" on after lunch. | 18:38 |
| JayF | I reset the agenda here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee and put Kristi back as the expected chair next week | 18:40 |
| * JayF sends election reminder email | 19:01 | |
| fungi | thanks! | 19:02 |
| noonedeadpunk | Sorry folks for being absent, my laptop died on me today, so had hard times joining and notifying of absence | 19:29 |
| JayF | Hopefully you were able to recussitate it! | 19:31 |
| JayF | gmann: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-py311-bindep-failures I created this to help me track, if you put attention in this direction it could help you, too | 19:48 |
| gmann | JayF: ++, thanks | 19:49 |
| spotz[m] | gmann has the meeting started? | 20:10 |
| gmann | yes | 20:10 |
| gmann | hope you received the invite or it is in etherpad also | 20:10 |
| spotz[m] | Ok I'm spinning I guess waiting to be let in | 20:11 |
| gmann | ohk | 20:11 |
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