| gmann | tc-members: TC chair nomination closed today at 23:45 UTC and we have only one candidate knikolla[m] so no election is needed https://github.com/openstack/governance/tree/master/reference/tc-chair-candidates/2023.2 | 02:42 |
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| gmann | knikolla[m]: As next step, please propose the patch to add 'chair' in reference/members.yaml file https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/tc-chair-elections.rst#tc-chair-election | 02:43 |
| knikolla[m] | Will do, thanks gmann | 14:46 |
| opendevreview | Kristi Nikolla proposed openstack/governance master: Add chair role to knikolla for 2023.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875742 | 14:54 |
| *** kopecmartin_ is now known as kopecmartin | 15:00 | |
| gmann | tc-members: need one more vote/verification on Chair election outcome of knikolla[m] as Chair https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875742 | 21:29 |
| JayF | ack; looking | 21:43 |
| JayF | RC+1 on it | 21:43 |
| gmann | thanks | 21:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Add chair role to knikolla for 2023.2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875742 | 21:53 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: ^^ Welcome to the Chair role. | 21:55 |
| knikolla[m] | Thank you :) | 21:56 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: added you in 'tech-committee-chair' gerrit group, sending email about update. | 21:56 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: and I hope you will all set to chair the tomorrow meeting? I will update the wiki page accordingly and you can send the agenda on openstack-discuss ML | 21:57 |
| knikolla[m] | yes, i can chair tomorrow's meeting | 21:58 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: perfect | 21:58 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: wiki page is updated. Hand over to you now onwards and feel free to let me know any help you need https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 21:59 |
| knikolla[m] | gmann: thanks, really appreciate it. I definitely will take you up on that while I learn the ropes. | 22:01 |
| gmann | ++ | 22:02 |
| gmann | knikolla[m]: I think we have almost all things covered in chair.rst but feel free to contact me for any query/help https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/CHAIR.rst | 22:03 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/governance master: Volunteer to serve at 2023.2 TC vice chair https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875787 | 22:18 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/governance master: Correct CHAIR.rst: reflect vice-chair nom practice https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875788 | 22:20 |
| JayF | I've been talking to knikolla[m] and would like to volunteer to be vice-chair. In practice, historically, that's meant a self-nomination PR. The docs say it should be chair-nominated. I'm OK with either way, but if we continue to self nominate we should merge 875788 to make the doc reflect reality. | 22:21 |
| gmann | either way is ok as we have done via both way in past | 22:28 |
| JayF | Yeah; I have no preference other than if the doc exists, that we follow it | 22:28 |
| JayF | and it's awkward, especially given OpenStack's tradition of self-nomination for leadership roles, to ask the chair to post the patch to voluntell someone to do it :) | 22:29 |
| JayF | but I really don't have a strong preference other than consistency between docs and actions | 22:29 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/governance master: Correct CHAIR.rst: reflect vice-chair nom practice https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/875788 | 22:33 |
| JayF | gmann: great suggestion ^ | 22:33 |
| gmann | +1 | 22:34 |
| knikolla[m] | Awesome, thank you JayF ! | 22:37 |
| fungi | i agree that self-nomination is the openstack way | 22:38 |
| JayF | TBH I, personally, hate having to self-nominate. It feels self-serving even if we know in reality there's very little glamour in being in governance. | 22:38 |
| JayF | That is not the same as thinking it's bad policy; but it's just uncomfortable for me personally. I wonder if there are others who feel the same who don't volunteer as a result. | 22:39 |
| fungi | we could rename it from nomination to volunteering | 22:45 |
| fungi | because it's really just a euphemism for that anyway | 22:46 |
| JayF | I'm sitting here chuckling to myself, because it's the obvious solution and it wouldn't have occured to me in a million years | 22:46 |
| JayF | that's a really good suggestion | 22:46 |
| knikolla[m] | fungi: you're a genius | 22:46 |
| fungi | once you're no longer on the tc, you get to pitch random ideas over the wall at tc members too | 22:47 |
| knikolla[m] | even though you've destroyed the world in a certain tv show based on a video game | 22:47 |
| fungi | destroyed? or just made it home? | 22:48 |
| knikolla[m] | ah, that's how you see it from your perspective | 22:49 |
| knikolla[m] | About the volunteering vs nomination. It does indeed feel more like the former. It takes some convincing to get people to run, so it isn't even much of a self-nomination anymore at that point. | 22:51 |
| fungi | how many things have you (accidentally on purpose) killed to make your home more comfortable? ;) | 22:51 |
| gmann | more of that it is Chair ask for volunteer and tc members raise hand. After that it hardly matter who propose the patch | 22:52 |
| fungi | some of it is that proposing yourself means an implicit acceptance of the responsibilities, rather than having to acknowledge someone else's nomination of you | 22:52 |
| knikolla[m] | fungi: i just run away screaming from everything that is alive | 22:53 |
| JayF | fungi: knikolla[m]: Which game are you referring to? | 22:53 |
| JayF | I'm very confused lol | 22:54 |
| knikolla[m] | The Last of Us | 22:54 |
| JayF | aha; I never played that and haven't seen the show, but I assume the ... infection at the center of the story is fungal? | 22:54 |
| knikolla[m] | Yes, the same that makes zombie ants | 22:56 |
| fungi | yes, makes for a convincing apocalypse because human immune systems are more accustomed to fighting off viral, bacterial and parasitic infections, not so well-practiced at dealing with a fungal contagion | 22:56 |
| fungi | (ergot poisoning as a real-world example) | 22:58 |
| JayF | A podcast I listen to had a borderline-medical-horror story about a middle-ear fungal infection. It really did just sound like our body has minimal defense | 23:01 |
| dasm|off | JayF: The Last of Us? :) | 23:04 |
| * dasm|off disappears again | 23:04 | |
| JayF | *blink* | 23:04 |
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