| gmann | tc-members: FYI, tomorrow meeting is on zoom not on google meet, link is in wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 01:33 |
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| dpawlik | gmann: ack. Forwarding message to tripleO team | 06:23 |
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| smcginnis | In case anyone here is interested, it looks like the kubernetes openstack provider project needs some help: | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/C0LSA3T7C/p1651750309473749 | 13:44 |
| gmann | ramineni might be continue doing that, she changed company from NEC last month so might be busy in transition period or so but yes if her new role permit it. | 13:48 |
| fungi | hopefully that's also on diablo_rojo's radar | 13:50 |
| slaweq | gmann: ricolin hi, I have a question about patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/810037 - are You going to work on it or maybe I can take it over and continue that work? | 13:53 |
| opendevreview | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/governance master: Define Technical preview framework https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/839880 | 14:01 |
| gmann | slaweq: sure, feel free to update. | 14:04 |
| slaweq | gmann: ok, I will update it | 14:11 |
| slaweq | but probably not today :) | 14:12 |
| gmann | no hurry, this will help is tech-preview, so it is ok. | 14:12 |
| gmann | I also did nto get time to check latest comment | 14:12 |
| slaweq | yeah, that's why I though about help with that as it may be helpful for tech-preview and governance improvements | 14:13 |
| gmann | +1 | 14:13 |
| slaweq | gmann: btw. I summarized today in email discussion about releasing broken/not really active projects | 14:14 |
| slaweq | tomorrow I'm going to check if we will need any changes in our docs regarding that | 14:14 |
| gmann | sure, I will check. | 14:14 |
| gmann | thanks | 14:14 |
| ade_lee | gmann, did I answer all your concerns on the fips goal? | 14:34 |
| gmann | ade_lee: I have not checked that, will check after TC meeting | 14:35 |
| ade_lee | gmann, ok | 14:35 |
| *** diablo_rojo__ is now known as diablo_rojo | 14:43 | |
| diablo_rojo | So I am around, but I can't join the video call for the meeting because I have another meeting going on at the same time that is a video meeting. | 14:47 |
| diablo_rojo | If it were on IRC I could more actively participate in both ;) | 14:49 |
| diablo_rojo | Alas I was overruled there, so if you could be really verbose about notes here I would greatly appreciate that. | 14:49 |
| fungi | yeah, i'll have to catch up from the summary/minutes since i have another meeting to chair at the same time | 14:50 |
| spotz | Video room is open, I almost forgot what time it was. | 14:53 |
| spotz | Yeah I run into the same thing at times, it's always easier to d conflicts with IRC | 14:53 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, +1 | 14:55 |
| spotz | And for the record ant RH person should be able to open the room with their work creds. The funny thing is I tested starting the room from my home account when we first made it and had no issues. | 14:56 |
| dansmith | spotz: gmann said zoom today | 14:56 |
| spotz | Ok closing the room:) | 14:57 |
| gmann | yeah https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/96404797762?pwd=SWpBNW4wekppV0piUmZzS2l6YzRwQT09#success | 14:59 |
| fungi | google-meet is for when you don't want anyone in china to participate ;) | 14:59 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu May 5 15:00:19 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:01 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:01 |
| spotz | We have company | 15:01 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: we are in zoom room | 15:02 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/96404797762?pwd=SWpBNW4wekppV0piUmZzS2l6YzRwQT09#success | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | Joining. I do have a hard stop in 40 minutes or so. | 15:03 |
| dansmith | o/ | 15:04 |
| gmann | #topic CFN overview from Jie Niu, China Mobile Research Institute (30 min) | 15:04 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:05 |
| dpawlik | o/ | 15:08 |
| ricolin | slaweq: thanks to pick that up, don't have time recently. so appreciate you can pick that up | 15:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Pick what up? | 15:12 |
| slaweq | diablo_rojo: I will continue with patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/810037 which was started by ricolin | 15:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh cool! Thanks for picking that up :) | 15:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Sorry, I wish I could double video meeting but I am not equipped to do so. | 15:15 |
| slaweq | diablo_rojo: np, on the video meeting we aren't talking about it now, we are talking about CFN | 15:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Ohhhh got it. Sorry missed that context. | 15:20 |
| gmann | as next step on CFN , we will wait for the planning discussion happening with CFN team and foundation. | 15:31 |
| gmann | #topic 'tick', 'tock' release cadence (~30 min) | 15:32 |
| gmann | discussing Legal checks on using 'tick', 'tock' | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | What about tihck tohck ? | 15:37 |
| gmann | not concluded on name alternate to tick-tock, will continue the discussion on review and next tc meeting | 15:55 |
| gmann | #topic New ELK service dashboard: e-r service | 16:09 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 16:14 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu May 5 16:14:09 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:14 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-05-05-15.00.html | 16:14 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-05-05-15.00.txt | 16:14 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-05-05-15.00.log.html | 16:14 |
| mnaser | i'm a bit concerned at the amount of rechecks happening in cinder, an example of a relatively trivial change here -- https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/839793 -- has an (imho) unacceptable amount of rechecks. tc thoughts? | 16:14 |
| diablo_rojo | While I know I can go read the recording... It would be great if we could take better notes here throughout the meeting. Maybe it should be the vice-chair's duty during the video calls? | 16:25 |
| gmann | dansmith: I will share the recording soon | 16:25 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: ^^ | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah but I can read notes quicker than I can watch a recording ;) | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo | (I do appreciate the recording though) | 16:26 |
| gmann | well if we need to type all the things along with video then no point of video call then | 16:26 |
| gmann | we try to capture the key things here | 16:27 |
| gmann | mnaser: this is what we can point to those patch https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures | 16:27 |
| gmann | mnaser: or good to inform cinder PTL to start monitoring such as we asked every leaders to do the same | 16:28 |
| mnaser | gmann: yeah but this seems like its' a very very common failure/repeating case | 16:28 |
| dansmith | on the good side, it looks like the rechecks aren't naked | 16:29 |
| dansmith | on the bad side, it looks like systemic problems that probably need some attention instead of just recheck-grinding to landing things? | 16:29 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:29 |
| mnaser | i think i spot 6 rechecks alone on this patch | 16:29 |
| mnaser | i think when you get more -1s than +1s on revisions, its probably time to dig in a bit :\ | 16:30 |
| clarkb | mnaser: also jobs like pylint seem to just always fail and are non voting. Probably a good idea to remove jobs that people don't find valuable | 16:53 |
| mnaser | clarkb: agreed, long-standing non-voting jobs really eat up a lot of resources | 16:53 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Add the cinder-three-par charm to Openstack charms https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/837781 | 16:57 |
| dansmith | gmann: thanks for forwarding that note about legal | 17:11 |
| dansmith | gmann: for what it's worth, I completely see why you thought moving to "tick","tock" would be fine from that response | 17:11 |
| gmann | dansmith: yeah, that is what I understood from it. | 17:14 |
| dansmith | I also think the response is confusing, because it seems to be like "sure you can use them separately not for anything public" .. like, everything we do is public | 17:17 |
| dansmith | so anyway, plenty confusing | 17:17 |
| gmann | true, anyways I think we can go with the another name than discussing on tick-tock legal things which are already confusing and I am not sure we can get the clear answer | 17:20 |
| dansmith | yup | 17:23 |
| gmann | here is recording for today meeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdoWcBiMuY | 19:32 |
| fungi | fwiw, the context i got is that when lawyers say "public" they mean "high profile" (marketing-related) use. but yes, more precise guidance would have been preferable | 22:07 |
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