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| opendevreview | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/governance master: Add ansible-collection-kolla repo to Kolla project https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/819331 | 14:46 |
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| gmann | tc-members: meeting time | 15:00 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Nov 25 15:00:10 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| strigazi | o/ | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| * strigazi saw the agenda and joined | 15:00 | |
| gmann | USA folks (4 TC ) are on Thanksgiving holiday | 15:00 |
| gmann | strigazi: hi | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | seems only 3 TC. | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | seems 4 | 15:02 |
| gmann | +1 | 15:02 |
| gmann | let's start | 15:03 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:03 |
| gmann | today agenda ^^ | 15:03 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:03 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:04 |
| spotz | And apparentlly I need to update my calendar for an hour earlier | 15:04 |
| gmann | spotz: +1 | 15:04 |
| gmann | one action item from previous meeting | 15:04 |
| gmann | gmann, ricolin_ to schedule adhoc meeting for pain point discussions | 15:04 |
| belmoreira | spotz :) | 15:04 |
| gmann | ricolin: did you find some slot for this ? | 15:05 |
| mnaser | Partial 5 :) | 15:05 |
| * mnaser joining in from 37000 ft | 15:05 | |
| gmann | +1, mnaser :) | 15:05 |
| ricolin | gmann, didn't schedule any meeting, I though we gonna use TC meeting for it? | 15:05 |
| gmann | ricolin: yeah, initially we planned that but doing in a adhoc special meeting like we did for RBAC can be more productive | 15:06 |
| gmann | what you say? | 15:06 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 15:06 |
| ricolin | okay, let's schedule some time next week | 15:06 |
| gmann | +1, next week works fine. thanks | 15:07 |
| gmann | I will keep it open till then | 15:08 |
| gmann | #action ricolin_ to schedule adhoc meeting for pain point discussions | 15:08 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check | 15:08 |
| belmoreira | it would be good if we involve the PTLs. A doodle with the TC members and PTLs would be great | 15:08 |
| gmann | belmoreira: +1. that will be great | 15:08 |
| gmann | in RBAC also we did same and having more member from community along with TC were very helpful | 15:09 |
| gmann | on gate health | 15:10 |
| gmann | I saw one failure occurring in few projects not other (not sure why). sphinx error ni SQLAlchemy1.4.27 - TypeDecorator | 15:11 |
| gmann | this one, #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/818652/1 | 15:11 |
| gmann | I have not debugged much on this whether it is issue on SQLAlchemy side or in our code doc string | 15:12 |
| gmann | if anyone knows about it please let us know. it is happening in tacker, heat, keystone afaik | 15:12 |
| gmann | other thing is zuul config error | 15:13 |
| gmann | Fixing Zuul config error in OpenStack | 15:13 |
| gmann | you might have seen email from clarkb #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-November/025797.html | 15:14 |
| gmann | I have created a etherpad to track this for openstack #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/zuul-config-error-openstack | 15:14 |
| gmann | so that we fix it and do not forget. I will help on this sometime next week but if any other TC would like to help fixing those will be great | 15:14 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: does this solve all kolla error or you need to fix few more #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/798205 | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: we are EOLing the old branches | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | I updated the etherpad | 15:16 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: perfect, thanks | 15:17 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: please add patch link also. | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, looking for it | 15:17 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:18 |
| gmann | any other thing to discuss on Gate health ? | 15:18 |
| spotz | not me | 15:18 |
| gmann | #topic Updates on community-wide goal | 15:18 |
| gmann | RBAC goal | 15:19 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/815158 | 15:19 |
| gmann | we discussed more bits around domain admin requirement in Yoga or not. lbragstad has uploaded the latest version | 15:19 |
| gmann | dansmith: and I are more involved in the same discussion so kind of co-authors. it will be great if other tc-members can have a look into that and vote | 15:20 |
| gmann | we have to merge it ASAP as yoga milestone-1 is already passed | 15:20 |
| mnaser | I have to admit the contents seem very intense | 15:21 |
| mnaser | And to be honest I trust in you and da smith so I may be tbh giving a RC+2 that’s delegated based on my trust in the folks who’ve worked on it | 15:21 |
| mnaser | So I don’t hold things up too much | 15:21 |
| spotz | I'll give it a read through llater though I've been following the discussions in channel | 15:22 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:22 |
| gmann | other proposed goal is 'Proposed community goal for FIPS compatibility and compliance' | 15:23 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/816587 | 15:23 |
| gmann | I did not get chance to review, will try to do sometime next week | 15:23 |
| gmann | #topic Magnum project health | 15:24 |
| mnaser | Yeah nothing on that in terms of knowledge or context | 15:25 |
| mnaser | Okay so about that subject | 15:25 |
| strigazi | I would appreciate some context and why I was not contacted before | 15:25 |
| strigazi | Or invited to this meeting for example | 15:25 |
| gmann | sure | 15:26 |
| mnaser | strigazi: sorry, I tried to ping on irc but no response — but the situation as I saw it was that I believe you are the only active core for magnum | 15:26 |
| mnaser | Feilong and brtrkr (sp?) both left their orgs and said magnum is not a focus at their new employment | 15:27 |
| mnaser | Hongbin doesn’t seem to have been doing any reviews lately which kinda leaves things up for you only | 15:27 |
| mnaser | And even then I guess there’s not enough cores to merge things to start with | 15:27 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fmagnum | 15:28 |
| gmann | open reviews in magnum | 15:28 |
| mnaser | fwiw, this wasn’t a meeting to start taking action but more of raise awareness inside tc and try to see what action items we come up with (ie someone reach out to spyros) — rather than “let’s fix it” | 15:28 |
| strigazi | Wouldn't a better approach be to ping me if I need help? via the mailing list? | 15:28 |
| mnaser | That would be a productive action item of this exact discussion :) | 15:28 |
| gmann | strigazi: I think idea here was who all are active. and now we have more clarity that you are only one there | 15:29 |
| gmann | I think ML is best way to contact then IRC ? that also work fine | 15:29 |
| mnaser | This was put here because I brought it up and this was a good time for the tc to be around and know that situation for us to figure out a plan | 15:29 |
| mnaser | Sorry if it came off as trying to do things behind you or anything. It’s just an early stage discussion. | 15:29 |
| strigazi | I am one core, but we are 4-5 ppl dedicated to magnum at CERN | 15:30 |
| gmann | strigazi: with one core, do you still have require 2 core for merging any patch or just one ? | 15:30 |
| mnaser | I understand | 15:30 |
| mnaser | gmann read my mind :) | 15:31 |
| strigazi | We require one, best practice 2 | 15:31 |
| strigazi | At this state we can move fwd with one I guess | 15:31 |
| strigazi | If that's ok with you as well | 15:32 |
| mnaser | I’m in no position for this but I’d suggest adding other cores | 15:32 |
| strigazi | I keep in mind to get a +1 from reviewers outisde CERN as well | 15:32 |
| spotz | If there are more people working on it are any of them possible cores? | 15:32 |
| strigazi | Jake Yip has enough knowledge | 15:33 |
| mnaser | There are a few contributors I’ve seen pushing in +1s | 15:33 |
| strigazi | and they are active | 15:33 |
| gmann | yeah, if there are more people interested and eligible, having more core will help | 15:33 |
| strigazi | I can ask around | 15:33 |
| strigazi | and report in 2-3 weeks | 15:33 |
| gmann | great. | 15:34 |
| mnaser | I do think strigazi is the best core when it comes to knowledge and understanding of project but doesn’t hurt to have a few more in case you’re off or anything like that | 15:34 |
| spotz | There might even be people who do +1s from outside CERN who would be thrilled to be asked | 15:34 |
| gmann | mnaser: agree | 15:34 |
| spotz | +2 | 15:35 |
| strigazi | spotz: at the moment I know only jake yip well enough and can vouch for them | 15:35 |
| spotz | strigazi: Ok it's a start for sure to get you help | 15:35 |
| gmann | let's wait for strigazi checks on more core and meanwhile it is all fine on strigazi plan to do one core (which is you) merging things | 15:36 |
| ricolin | strigazi, maybe Catalyst Cloud will be interested to send another person into community? | 15:36 |
| mnaser | yeah if single core merge is ok, then it’s not that much of an issue | 15:36 |
| strigazi | ricolin: they said they'll be in touch when they have someone | 15:36 |
| ricolin | strigazi, got it | 15:36 |
| mnaser | but I was concerned is there’s not even enough cores to merge things if there was a 2 +2 rule | 15:36 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:37 |
| gmann | this stats two core only #link https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.rst | 15:37 |
| mnaser | Anyways, I appreciate your work strigazi — I didn’t raise this because I didn’t think you weren’t contributing or doing your stuff — but it was more since there wasn’t as much people to help | 15:37 |
| strigazi | gmann: is the best practice | 15:37 |
| strigazi | gmann: the link you shared | 15:38 |
| strigazi | mnaser: no worries | 15:38 |
| mnaser | Sorry if it came off weird, but we’d probably actually have started to send an ML message as an action to the discussion once the tc was made aware | 15:38 |
| gmann | strigazi: yeah, actually many new people might be checking that but anyways plan of chekcing new core possibility sounds good | 15:38 |
| strigazi | let's do like this then, since there is interest, I can do a reviews/clean up of the backlog and looks for cores | 15:39 |
| strigazi | let's do like this then, since there is interest, I can do reviews and a clean up of the backlog and look for cores | 15:39 |
| gmann | +1, sounds good | 15:39 |
| mnaser | yeah — we’re doing a big push for magnum here to try and make the experience more smooth with the edge cases so we’ll be submitting quite a few things here and there | 15:40 |
| spotz | +1 | 15:40 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 15:40 |
| mnaser | (and while they’re all up streamed I feel bad running locks patches — since the community won’t benefit it out of the box and might get a bad taste) | 15:40 |
| mnaser | Thanks for that though strigazi — much appreciated | 15:40 |
| mnaser | and if you need to reach the tc I hear one of them is next door :P | 15:41 |
| gmann | strigazi: really appreciate your updates/plan and taking charge of project again as PTL too. | 15:41 |
| gmann | +1. anything else on this topic ? | 15:41 |
| strigazi | mnaser: :) he works from home today otherwise literally next door | 15:41 |
| * strigazi waves to belmoreira from the office | 15:42 | |
| belmoreira | strigazi thanks for joining the meeting | 15:42 |
| mnaser | I feel like that’s a good productive wrap up on the topic | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | indeed | 15:42 |
| gmann | agree. thanks belmoreira also. | 15:42 |
| strigazi | mnaser: if you want discuss a bigger push on magnum, we could do it in the ML or storyboard :) | 15:43 |
| mnaser | strigazi: will do :) | 15:43 |
| tobias-urdin | great to see the topic was covered and some more clarity spread around it | 15:43 |
| tobias-urdin | :) | 15:43 |
| gmann | #topic Adjutant need PTLs and maintainers | 15:44 |
| gmann | Adjutant till need maintainer or PTL | 15:44 |
| gmann | this is last I heard on ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-November/025786.html | 15:44 |
| mnaser | I think there’s as someone from Verisign | 15:44 |
| mnaser | Who was waiting fir a sort of approval or something | 15:44 |
| gmann | Braden, Albert, yeah | 15:44 |
| gmann | yeah, I will get in touch with them and check the status. meanwhile I will keep it in agenda | 15:45 |
| gmann | #topic Pain Point targeting | 15:46 |
| gmann | this we already discussed to start discussion as adhoc meeting sometime next week | 15:46 |
| gmann | ricolin: belmoreira anything else you would like to cover today ? | 15:46 |
| gmann | on this topic | 15:46 |
| ricolin | not from me | 15:46 |
| belmoreira | looking forward for the meeting | 15:47 |
| gmann | cool | 15:47 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:47 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:47 |
| gmann | 8 open reviews | 15:47 |
| gmann | RBAC, FIPs we already talked about | 15:48 |
| gmann | this is goal cleanup as per new structure, appreciate the review on this #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/818845 | 15:48 |
| gmann | for kolla repo, mnaser can you check this project-config patch #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/819326 | 15:49 |
| spotz | All links open to look at later | 15:49 |
| gmann | spotz: thanks | 15:49 |
| gmann | I think that is all from me today. anything else from anyone | 15:50 |
| gmann | next meeting will be on Dec 2nd video call. | 15:50 |
| spotz | Looks like tentatively there will be an OPS Meetup the Friday after Summiit hosted at Deutsche Telekon | 15:51 |
| gmann | spotz: in June 2022 summit right? | 15:51 |
| belmoreira | that's great! | 15:52 |
| spotz | gmann: Yeah on 6/10 the Friday | 15:52 |
| gmann | ok, sounds great. | 15:52 |
| gmann | and Thanks to everyone on Thanksgiving day! and safe flight to mnaser (thanks for joining from 37000 feet :)) | 15:53 |
| gmann | let's close for today | 15:53 |
| mnaser | Thanks guys. Take care :) | 15:53 |
| belmoreira | thank you all | 15:53 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Nov 25 15:53:49 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-11-25-15.00.html | 15:53 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-11-25-15.00.txt | 15:53 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-11-25-15.00.log.html | 15:53 |
| spotz | Safe travels mnaser. Happy thanksgiving all. Gonna go ride before we pig out:) | 15:53 |
| gmann | spotz: wow. have a nice one | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | thanks gmann | 15:55 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Select secure and consistent RBAC as a community-wide goal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/818817 | 16:57 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Move completed goals into the completed directory https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/818845 | 17:17 |
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