| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Document about using publish-to-pypi-stable-only for deprecated repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/801670 | 00:06 |
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| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Document about using publish-to-pypi-stable-only for deprecated repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/801670 | 14:16 |
| gmann | tc-members: meeting time | 15:00 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 22 15:00:09 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| spotz_ | I/ | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | let's start | 15:01 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 15:02 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:02 |
| gmann | no action item form previous meeting | 15:02 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto) | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | well, we got a surprise from neutron | 15:02 |
| dansmith | well, aside from the recent neutron breakage, and the current cinder-induced-sdk-breakage, I think things have been pretty decent lately | 15:02 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:03 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:03 |
| gmann | yeah, revert is merged now | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | dansmith: That is good news. | 15:03 |
| gmann | yeah sdk thing are not so easy to remove | 15:04 |
| yoctozepto | I guess that exhausts the topic unless someone else has other insights ;-) | 15:04 |
| gmann | I am trying to skip v2 test and later we can decide on how to remove v2 from sdk | 15:04 |
| dansmith | I guess cinder doesn't run the sdk tests? | 15:05 |
| gmann | does not seems to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/792299 | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | Not sure the answer off the top of my head. | 15:05 |
| gmann | but we should | 15:05 |
| dansmith | gmann: yeah, clearly we should :) | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | But, yes, we should. | 15:06 |
| gmann | any other failure need more attention? | 15:07 |
| dansmith | not that I know of | 15:07 |
| gmann | ok. thanks | 15:08 |
| gmann | #topic Migration from 'Freenode' to 'OFTC' (gmann) | 15:08 |
| gmann | more doc are updated but few are pending to merge | 15:08 |
| gmann | and openstack blog is not yet updated, i reminded jimmy for that | 15:09 |
| gmann | #topic PTG Planning | 15:09 |
| gmann | based on doodle vote I booked 3 slot: 1. Monday 15-17 UTC for TC+PTL 2. Thursday 13-17 UTC 3. Friday 13-17UTC | 15:10 |
| gmann | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/8tum5yl1bx43 | 15:10 |
| gmann | filled the PTG survey also | 15:10 |
| gmann | as next step, let's start filling the topics in etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-ptg | 15:11 |
| jungleboyj | ++ Thank you gmann | 15:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes thank you! | 15:11 |
| spotz | +2 | 15:11 |
| gmann | anything else on PTG or slot conflict though we might not be able to resolve all ? | 15:11 |
| spotz | You took the sloot I normally grab for D&I so I just took the slot before the TC on Monday | 15:12 |
| diablo_rojo | If I was really motivated I could start building my ptg schedule already lol | 15:13 |
| gmann | ah, Monday 15-17 is most PTL/TC available time | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah. | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | about the PTG etherpad and project leaders interaction | 15:13 |
| gmann | spotz: thanks for adjustment , we did reschedule same for QA | 15:14 |
| gmann | belmoreira: yeah | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | it's a great idea, but shouldn't we involve also the SIG chairs? and maybe other members of the user community? | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | considering that the TC also includes the old UC | 15:15 |
| gmann | belmoreira: +1 I mentioned project leaders but we can reword that so that SIG leads and other member can also join | 15:15 |
| gmann | main motive is PTL + leaders(in DPL case) + SIG leads also | 15:15 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 15:16 |
| gmann | may be "community leaders" can be good term ? | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | +1 to community leaders | 15:16 |
| spotz | +1 | 15:16 |
| diablo_rojo | +1 | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | also, allows voices of those who have stepped back to incubate other leaders to be able to join the fray | 15:16 |
| belmoreira | yes, "community leaders" looks good | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | +1 | 15:16 |
| fungi | yeah, getting some sig chairs involved would be good too (speaking as a sig chair and person active in multiple sigs) | 15:16 |
| ricolin | I think community leaders sounds good | 15:16 |
| gmann | ok, I will change that and also will mention in ML while reminding about it | 15:18 |
| gmann | thanks belmoreira for pointing out | 15:18 |
| gmann | if nothing else on PTG let's move? | 15:19 |
| gmann | #topic Xena Tracker | 15:20 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-xena-tracker | 15:20 |
| gmann | I did not progress on contributor guide goal and many of project merged and it is close to complete | 15:20 |
| gmann | sorry, *I did progress | 15:21 |
| gmann | any updates form any other member on their item? | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | No updates from me. Sorry. | 15:21 |
| spotz | I've been working on livestreaming and blogging places for the PTLs, did we ever get a list ofo emails? | 15:22 |
| gmann | spotz: you can get via this script https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/tools/list_ptls.py with --email | 15:23 |
| diablo_rojo | No updates from me/ | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | none here | 15:25 |
| gmann | let's work on your assigned itemas we are close to Xena release | 15:25 |
| gmann | #link Open Reviews | 15:25 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:26 |
| gmann | please review #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800471 | 15:26 |
| gmann | and this need formal vote #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799927 | 15:27 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: i replied on your comment of adding centos9, is that fine? | 15:27 |
| gmann | I am not sure when it will be released to targeting now seems not so good to me. if we know exact date then we can? | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: I guess we can amend that later | 15:28 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: yes, we can. I think we did for centos to centyos stream case also | 15:29 |
| spotz_ | From the RDO meetings we’ll most likely hold Xenia for it if it’s not too long. We will have for Yoga | 15:29 |
| yoctozepto | mhm | 15:29 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: I wonder about the retirement patches of deprecated repos | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | sometimes they add the current date | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | sometimes the date of deprecation | 15:30 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: current date they add when they move from deprecated to retire | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | compare https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800471 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/800148 | 15:31 |
| gmann | only case was neutron-lbaas which was actually retired but not recorded properly so i added with date when it wa actually retired | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | ah | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | that makes sense | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | that was confusing | 15:31 |
| gmann | yeah neutron-lbaas was confusion until I updated readme as per legacy-validation script | 15:31 |
| gmann | otherwise in normal case if project retiring directly or from deprecated to retire we should record currrent date | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:32 |
| fungi | spotz_: delayed response, but also the ptl and dpl e-mail addresses are listed in the projects.yaml file in governance | 15:33 |
| spotz | Thanks fungi:) | 15:34 |
| gmann | yeah, if you need complete list then script is better unless need individual PTL which can be done from proejcts.yaml | 15:34 |
| fungi | also displayed in the project detail pages on governance.o.o based on that | 15:35 |
| gmann | anything else for today to discuss ? | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | not from me :-) | 15:37 |
| gmann | let's close then, thanks everyone for joining | 15:37 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 22 15:37:17 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-22-15.00.html | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-22-15.00.txt | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-22-15.00.log.html | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | thanks gmann | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | thanks gmann | 15:38 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks! | 15:38 |
| spotz_ | Thanks man and everyone! | 15:39 |
| spotz | gmann even! | 15:42 |
| * jungleboyj uses his dude voice | 15:42 | |
| jungleboyj | Thanks man ... | 15:42 |
| gmann | skipping cinder v2 test for sdk failure https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/801872 | 15:42 |
| gmann | dansmith: yoctozepto jungleboyj how about adding openstacksdk-functional-devstack job in integration queue ? | 15:50 |
| dansmith | so that everyone runs it by inheritance yeah? | 15:50 |
| dansmith | probably a good idea | 15:51 |
| gmann | yeah, will add | 15:51 |
| dansmith | does that mean you will abandon the cinder one or what? | 15:51 |
| dansmith | I just +1d that so now I'll look like a dork :P | 15:52 |
| gmann | dansmith: we need to keep them for irrelevant files things but having in integrated template will make sure it is run always | 15:52 |
| dansmith | ah okay | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: makes sense to me, it's an important job | 15:55 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: yeah and from user perspective | 15:56 |
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| yoctozepto | gmann: precisely | 15:57 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add CIVS opt-in vote step in election process https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/801528 | 19:37 |
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