| tkajinam | IIUC all irc bots have been migrated and we are now ready to start our new life here | 00:00 |
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| tkajinam | will we make any official announcement in freenode ? I'm afraid there are still many people connecting to freenode at this moment | 00:00 |
| tkajinam | since I see much less people here in OFTC | 00:01 |
| tkajinam | I know we didn't do that because the channels might be banned, but I guess we are ready now | 00:01 |
| gmann | tkajinam: yeah, we did announce it in openstack-discuss ML - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022718.html | 00:26 |
| tkajinam | gmann, my concern is that not many people might be checking that mail | 00:27 |
| tkajinam | gmann, and we might need notification in freenode to get attention | 00:27 |
| gmann | tkajinam: also we collected the action item for this migration which is updting the contributor guides in project side and also tell people in your team,local users grps etc | 00:27 |
| tkajinam | gmann, ok | 00:27 |
| gmann | tkajinam: ah yes, plan is we all staying it freendoe also and start redirecting people to oftc for a week or so | 00:28 |
| tkajinam | gmann, that makes sense | 00:28 |
| gmann | tkajinam: I am going to send email to openstack-discuss + to PTL individual emails also to volunteer to(or ask some of their team mates too) to notify all their projects active IRC members about this migration. | 00:29 |
| gmann | also plan to add this in openstack newsletter also | 00:30 |
| gmann | tkajinam: any other more idea on notification about it? | 00:30 |
| tkajinam | gmann, nothing at this moment. I think the plan is nice and covers all items we can do. | 00:32 |
| tkajinam | my personal problem is that I already dropped my nick freenode but I can readd it to check status of freenode channels | 00:32 |
| tkajinam | s/freenode/from freenode/ | 00:33 |
| gmann | tkajinam: yeah that will be good. staying on freenode for sometime will help us to migrate people here | 00:33 |
| tkajinam | gmann, yeah. will restore my nick today | 00:34 |
| gmann | thanks. | 00:34 |
| tkajinam | gmann, thank you, too | 00:34 |
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| fungi | i'm personally hanging around in and monitoring a dozen or so channels on freenode for stuff i'm most involved in | 02:05 |
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| yoctozepto | I plan to stick around for a month on those channels where I was most active | 06:42 |
| yoctozepto | I will try to intercept any chat activity and redirect the folks | 06:42 |
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| yoctozepto | I also just broadcast a message to read the relevant mailing list entry | 06:43 |
| yoctozepto | it should help too | 06:43 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 07:17 |
| tkajinam | I'm wondering whether setting a kind of hard limit in one month and close all channels at that time | 07:18 |
| tkajinam | so that nobody will join the "wrong" place | 07:18 |
| yoctozepto | well, we know kinda know this will trigger a takeover for violating the freenode policy | 07:36 |
| yoctozepto | so we can do it but it will be reset | 07:36 |
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| fungi | yeah, "closing" channels probably won't be doable, but we could delete the registration for them at least to signal we're no longer managing them | 12:53 |
| fungi | (people would still be able to join those channels, they'd just be unregistered channels and we could blank the topics on them before removing registration) | 12:54 |
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| slaweq | hi TC team | 12:59 |
| slaweq | I have a quick question about irc channels migration | 12:59 |
| slaweq | should we now have e.g. neutron meetings on the oftc or still on old server? | 12:59 |
| slaweq | is there any guidance from the tc about that? | 12:59 |
| slaweq | or each project can do it as we want? | 13:00 |
| yoctozepto | slaweq: hi; sorry if it was not clear from the broadcast message but the projects are advised to be communicating and meeting on OFTC now | 13:02 |
| slaweq | yoctozepto: ok, thx | 13:02 |
| slaweq | that was my understanding but I wasn't 100% sure | 13:02 |
| yoctozepto | slaweq: yw; we also ask PTLs to update their wiki and docs entries to mention OFTC in all cases | 13:03 |
| yoctozepto | the general docs have been mostly updated | 13:03 |
| yoctozepto | some changes gating | 13:03 |
| slaweq | yoctozepto: I think that http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ needs to be updated too | 13:03 |
| slaweq | all links there are to freenode | 13:04 |
| yoctozepto | slaweq: yes, that's precisely what's gating :D https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/793736 | 13:04 |
| slaweq | maybe there is change for that in gate, I didn't check | 13:04 |
| slaweq | yoctozepto++ ok, thx | 13:04 |
| slaweq | :) | 13:04 |
| yoctozepto | :-) | 13:04 |
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| gmann | slaweq: yes, everything from now is on oftc. | 13:50 |
| slaweq | gmann: thx, yoctozepto already confirmed me that :) | 13:50 |
| gmann | fungi: now i can mark 'Migrate bots to OFTC' task completed right? | 13:51 |
| tosky | including the logging bots? | 13:53 |
| yoctozepto | tosky: yes | 13:54 |
| yoctozepto | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2021-05-31.log.html | 13:54 |
| yoctozepto | say hello to opendevmeet | 13:54 |
| yoctozepto | it's the eavesdropper | 13:55 |
| tosky | oki, so I guess the irclogbots (are those ours?) just need to be disconnected from f6e | 13:55 |
| gmann | yeah, i verified log and bot for few channel | 13:57 |
| yoctozepto | tosky: interesting, they are not opendev's | 13:57 |
| tosky | oh | 13:58 |
| fungi | gmann: yeah, ptgbot is in progress but that was a low priority since it won't be needed again until shortly prior to the next ptg | 13:58 |
| yoctozepto | at least not currently | 13:58 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: any idea what irclogbot_ are/were on freenode? | 13:58 |
| gmann | fungi: great, thanks a lot for all the work | 13:58 |
| fungi | the "logbot" we ran on freenode was just named "openstack" (now it's "opendevmeet" here on oftc) | 13:58 |
| fungi | eventually all our general bots (the logging meetbot, gerritbot, statusbot) will get merged into a single unified bot which will use a different account simply named "opendev" | 13:59 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: yeah, that I know but tosky made an observation that our channels on freenode are watched by irclogbot_ accounts | 14:02 |
| yoctozepto | so they are something else | 14:02 |
| fungi | sure, does whois tell you anything about them? | 14:03 |
| fungi | they're not ours anyway | 14:03 |
| fungi | lots of people run bots in our channels, after all | 14:03 |
| yoctozepto | ~irclogbot@mail.leafe.com | 14:05 |
| yoctozepto | the folk seem to have used to contribute to openstack | 14:06 |
| fungi | yes, ed leafe was a nova (i think) core reviewer off and on over the years, and was also active in the api sig, but hasn't been around lately i don't think | 14:07 |
| fungi | those bots may just be zombies lately | 14:08 |
| tosky | you still need disk space for the logs O.o | 14:10 |
| fungi | compressed, the logs we have archived back all the way to 2011 are only a few hundred megabytes | 14:14 |
| yoctozepto | they might as well just be present and not be able to save logs, whatever ;D | 14:15 |
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| fungi | true | 14:18 |
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| mnaser | do we have a good 'we've moved' document/reference to give into those who join channels? | 16:39 |
| fungi | there's http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022718.html and http://lists.opendev.org/pipermail/service-discuss/2021-May/000249.html but maybe something in the project team guide would be better | 16:45 |
| gmann | mnaser: we updated the contributor guide main page also https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html | 16:45 |
| fungi | http://lists.opendev.org/pipermail/service-discuss/2021-May/000249.html once it's updated? | 16:46 |
| gmann | I sent email to PTL individual email too to get more attention from all PTL | 16:46 |
| fungi | er sorry, https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-community.html#project-irc-channels | 16:46 |
| gmann | ok, doing that | 16:47 |
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| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Replace freenode ref with OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/793830 | 16:51 |
| gmann | ^^ | 16:52 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-team-guide master: Replace freenode ref with OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/793830 | 17:03 |
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| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/election master: Replace freenode ref with OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/793862 | 21:17 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Replace freenode ref with OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/793864 | 21:17 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/ideas master: Replace freenode ref with OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ideas/+/793865 | 21:17 |
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