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| openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/election master: Add Shengping Zhong candidacy for Puppet OpenStack PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778600 | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/election master: Adding Hervé Beraud candidacy for Release Management PTL in X https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778623 | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/election master: Adding Hervé Beraud candidacy for Release Management PTL in X https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778623 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/election master: Adding Hervé Beraud candidacy for Release Management PTL in X https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778623 | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/election master: Adding Andrey Pavlov candidacy for ec2-api (Xena) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778666 | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Add Shengping Zhong candidacy for Puppet OpenStack PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778600 | 12:22 |
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| gmann | meeting time? | 15:02 |
| fungi | this is when it normally takes place, yeah | 15:03 |
| gmann | mnaser: ping | 15:03 |
| mnaser | ah, sorry, time passed by | 15:03 |
| mnaser | #startmeeting tc | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 4 15:03:32 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnaser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:03 |
| mnaser | #topic roll call | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:03 | |
| mnaser | o/ | 15:03 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:03 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:04 |
| dansmith | o/ | 15:04 |
| diablo_rojo__ | o/ | 15:04 |
| mnaser | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Follow up on past action items (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:05 | |
| mnaser | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-02-25-15.00.html | 15:05 |
| mnaser | both action items was just to drop some agenda topics which are gone | 15:05 |
| mnaser | #topic Audit SIG list and chairs (diablo_rojo) | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Audit SIG list and chairs (diablo_rojo) (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:05 | |
| ricolin | I think diablo_rojo__ already send patch to refresh public cloud SIG | 15:07 |
| diablo_rojo__ | I pushed a few patches based on some emails I've gotten so we are getting close. | 15:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | Still have one or two more on the list I reached out to the chairs directly that I am waiting on responses from | 15:07 |
| mnaser | cool, thanks for working on this diablo_rojo :) | 15:08 |
| ricolin | Also worth mention that Feilong Wang volunteer to take K8s SIG chair as well if current chair no longer plan to | 15:08 |
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| diablo_rojo | Already pushed that patch ricolin :) | 15:09 |
| ricolin | diablo_rojo, nice:) | 15:09 |
| diablo_rojo | None of the previous chairs are involved anymore :) | 15:09 |
| mnaser | \o/ | 15:10 |
| mnaser | any other comments/updates on this? | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:10 |
| diablo_rojo | nope | 15:11 |
| ricolin | diablo_rojo, thanks for co-chair K8s SIG | 15:11 |
| diablo_rojo | :) whats one more hat? | 15:12 |
| ricolin | diablo_rojo, I will help with or without any hat:) | 15:12 |
| ricolin | diablo_rojo, but yeah, count me in:) | 15:13 |
| mnaser | #topic Gate performance and heavy job configs (dansmith) | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate performance and heavy job configs (dansmith) (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:14 | |
| dansmith | this has been a bad week for sampling anything like normal, | 15:14 |
| diablo_rojo | noted! | 15:14 |
| dansmith | so hard to really say | 15:14 |
| dansmith | cinder fails are still at the top of my list in terms of impact, | 15:14 |
| mnaser | dansmith: a lot of external failures or? | 15:14 |
| dansmith | but jungleboyj did as promised and drug my name through the mud on the cinder call :P | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Not mud. I put weight behind my concern. | 15:15 |
| dansmith | mnaser: I dunno what you mean by external fails | 15:15 |
| jungleboyj | It was just name dropping. | 15:15 |
| dansmith | jungleboyj: dropping my name has the opposite effect as most people :D | 15:15 |
| fungi | though in good news, our inap quota is finally back, after months of hiatus for their cloud upgrade work | 15:15 |
| dansmith | fungi: ah cool.. we're definitely chewing a lot of reviews, but there's plenty to do | 15:16 |
| mnaser | dansmith: i mean, something like pypi failing or stuff like that | 15:16 |
| fungi | overall we're spending less time with node request backlogs during the day | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | It worked as I talked to rosmaita today and it sounds like he is going to try to get some resources moved to look at it. | 15:16 |
| dansmith | mnaser: oh no, like actual cinder fails.. refusing to delete volumes, getting into wedged states, etc | 15:16 |
| dansmith | mnaser: by "a bad week" I meant that load is very high ahead of the milestone, so "gut feeling" doesn't really work compared to normal | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: We have two jobs that fail a lot but the problem is that the failures are all over the place. Hard to find a smoking gun. | 15:17 |
| fungi | yeah, this is usually our heaviest gerrit activity period in the cycle | 15:17 |
| dansmith | jungleboyj: yeah I see what seems like a subset of failures, but spread _all_ over the place | 15:18 |
| dansmith | anyone that runs volume tempest jobs | 15:18 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. | 15:18 |
| dansmith | but I have been super busy and haven't been able to collect more organized data really | 15:18 |
| jungleboyj | I think we have least gotten some more visibility to the problem. | 15:18 |
| dansmith | my typical comment is "recheck cinder dance" :) | 15:18 |
| dansmith | yep, and that's good | 15:18 |
| dansmith | thanks for doing that | 15:18 |
| dansmith | as long as rosmaita and I can still be friends, I'm happy :) | 15:19 |
| dansmith | mnaser: anyway, I think that's all we can really say about this week | 15:20 |
| jungleboyj | dansmith: Yeah, that is what we have been doing too. :-( | 15:20 |
| mnaser | ok, so i guess we'l have to look into this and hopefully cinder can help improve things | 15:20 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita knew it needed attention so this helped bump the priority. | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | I will keep following up with it. | 15:21 |
| mnaser | i guess we can move on to the next otpic | 15:21 |
| dansmith | when things calm down post-release I may be able to help more with actual digging in of issues, if someone from cinder can help | 15:21 |
| mnaser | #topic Technical Elections & Election Officials (diablo_rojo) | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Technical Elections & Election Officials (diablo_rojo) (Meeting topic: tc)" | 15:21 | |
| jungleboyj | dansmith: I think we can make that happen. | 15:22 |
| diablo_rojo | So we got all the necessary setup merged and nominations are now open through next week | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | we will have a shortened campaigning period and then the regular week long election period. | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | But it would be really great, for the next election, to get some more hands. | 15:26 |
| diablo_rojo | At the very least someone else to help make sure we are on track and not behind schedule like this round | 15:26 |
| gmann | yeah, to avoid that in future I am adding the election schedule tasks for TC chair #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/777771 | 15:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes that is a really awesome idea gmann! | 15:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I was just about to mention that too. | 15:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I think that will help | 15:27 |
| gmann | at least we can have a check on 'any new help as election official for this election' | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Add Lucian Petrut candidacy for Winstackers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/778610 | 15:28 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: ++ Good idea. | 15:28 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 15:28 |
| fungi | also heed the important note i sent to the ml about gerrit's api behavior changes and what it means for making sure your e-mail address is properly associated between gerrit and your foundation membership | 15:28 |
| diablo_rojo | I can do another call for volunteers to the ML but if there were any TC members that weren't up for re-election or ones that werent planning on running could help ( in the future) | 15:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Also what fungi said | 15:29 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/020810.html IMPORTANT Note About March 2021 Elections | 15:29 |
| diablo_rojo | That's all I had really. | 15:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Any questions? | 15:29 |
| mnaser | personally, i plan on running, but what about the others? | 15:29 |
| mnaser | we should do some outreach | 15:29 |
| fungi | i do not plan on running. looks like we need election officials | 15:30 |
| * fungi can't convince the current officials to approve his resignation patch | 15:30 | |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:30 |
| mnaser | sorry, i plan on running as a tc member :) | 15:31 |
| ricolin | a reminder knikolla, belmoreira mugsie mnaser and I will need to join this run if plan to keep in TC:) | 15:31 |
| ricolin | I plan to join TC election this time too | 15:31 |
| jungleboyj | I don't plan on running for anything so if there is something I can help with, let me know. | 15:31 |
| mnaser | jungleboyj: you've got another 6 months to hang around ;) | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. | 15:32 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, we can add you as an election official and I can walk through the scripts etc with you. | 15:32 |
| knikolla | I'm not planning on running for another term | 15:32 |
| fungi | jungleboyj: teh election officials coordinate in #openstack-election if you're interested in helping | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | fungi: Good to know. I can join that. | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | Sure. I can learn how to help out since I know there has been a need there for a while. | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | If you guys don't mind dealing with possibly dumb questions. :-) | 15:33 |
| fungi | jungleboyj: you just have to be able to put up with my dumb answers | 15:33 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, maybe we can coordinate early next week? I was going to take today off and tomorrow off. | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | fungi: He he he. | 15:34 |
| fungi | i can also probably talk through some preliminary stuff in there later when my meetings calm down | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Ok. Sounds good. | 15:34 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | fungi: Cool. | 15:35 |
| mnaser | cool well | 15:36 |
| mnaser | #topic Open Reviews | 15:36 |
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| mnaser | we talked about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/770616 last time | 15:36 |
| dansmith | isn't this sufficiently toasted? | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 15:37 |
| mnaser | i think we discussed that the language needed revision | 15:37 |
| dansmith | oh wait, | 15:37 |
| mnaser | and belmoreira proposed to puhs up the revision | 15:37 |
| dansmith | belmoreira: put upa patch | 15:37 |
| belmoreira | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/ | 15:37 |
| mnaser | oh, crap, right | 15:38 |
| mnaser | which si https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/777619 | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/777619 | 15:38 |
| dansmith | *that* is the one I liked :) | 15:38 |
| dansmith | yeah, I didn't realize it was a new patch | 15:38 |
| * mnaser is melting down gerrit with his +1 | 15:38 | |
| gmann | yeah, +1. | 15:38 |
| mnaser | ill abandon the first one | 15:39 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Poor Gerrit. | 15:40 |
| mnaser | ok cool | 15:41 |
| dansmith | question | 15:41 |
| dansmith | how many people do we have to get to agree on not doing something before we can do it? | 15:41 |
| mnaser | i've had a long few days but i'm not sure i parse your question | 15:42 |
| dansmith | hehe, let's move on | 15:42 |
| jungleboyj | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OopS1l1M/image.png | 15:42 |
| mnaser | oh uh | 15:43 |
| mnaser | i guess i can update about the k8s toc/tc thing that diablo_rojo helped setup | 15:43 |
| mnaser | it was really interesting to hear what they were dealing with, we recommended our DPL model to them as they're having issues where the chair of a sig becomes a catch all for everythign | 15:43 |
| * jungleboyj is sorry I missed that. | 15:43 | |
| mnaser | and they're tryign to work out and figure out how they can deal/sort out that problem | 15:43 |
| ricolin | jungleboyj, don't worry, just buy all of us some beer and we will it let go:) | 15:44 |
| gmann | but do not they have pretty much distributed responsibility by having approver/reviewer roles ? | 15:45 |
| ricolin | s/it let go/let it go/ :p | 15:45 |
| jungleboyj | ricolin: Ha ha ha. Will do if we are ever in person for something again. | 15:45 |
| mnaser | gmann: i mean they have approver/reviewer but i think they're having troubles with too many things ending up on the chair | 15:45 |
| fungi | unrelated to code review, presumably | 15:46 |
| gmann | i see | 15:46 |
| fungi | organizational/leadership responsibilities | 15:46 |
| gmann | I think many approver in many SIG help in release, CI/CD etc also | 15:46 |
| gmann | but that might not be true for all SIG | 15:47 |
| mnaser | yeah, apparently the release is a bit more organized or something | 15:48 |
| mnaser | i tried to keep up but i wasn't always familiar with all of it | 15:48 |
| mnaser | anyways, that's mostly it for me | 15:49 |
| mnaser | if no one has anything else we can close out :) | 15:49 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing more from me. | 15:50 |
| mnaser | cool, well in that case, thanks everyone | 15:52 |
| mnaser | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 4 15:52:17 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-03-04-15.03.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-03-04-15.03.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-03-04-15.03.log.html | 15:52 |
| ricolin | thanks mnaser | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks everyone. | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Propose Extra-ATCs from I18n SIG https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/777871 | 16:05 |
| fungi | that ^ will need to merge quickly | 16:06 |
| fungi | election officials need to be able to generate electoral rolls next week | 16:07 |
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| mnaser | fungi: ^ that was a merge notification ;p | 16:45 |
| fungi | d'oh! yep ;) | 16:52 |
| fungi | thanks! | 16:52 |
| * fungi has too many things going on at once today | 16:52 | |
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