Thursday, 2021-01-28

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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Add Dirk Mueller as Packaging SIG co-chair  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance-sigs/+/77288114:00
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mnaser#startmeeting tc15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 28 15:00:55 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mnaser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tc'15:00
gmanno/15:01
mnaser#topic roll call15:01
mnasero/15:01
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ricolino/15:01
belmoreirao/15:01
mnaserhow are y'all doing15:02
diablo_rojoo/15:02
jungleboyjo/15:03
diablo_rojoTired. How are you mnaser?15:03
mnaserlololol very much the same15:03
mnaserwith this ball of energy running around me15:03
ricolinmnaser, doing great:)15:03
mnasercurrently spinning at 4000 rpm chasing his own tail15:03
jungleboyjmnaser:  ++ Yeah, that is how I feel.15:04
gmanngoing same way, nothing changed actually, stuck inside  :)15:04
diablo_rojomnaser, have you realized yet that he now runs your life?15:04
mnaserim doing my best to make that turn around lol15:04
diablo_rojomnaser, it will take a couple months lol15:04
mnaserhe's a land shark right now15:05
mnaser#topic Follow up on past action items15:05
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ricolinhanging there:)15:05
mnaser#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-01-21-15.00.html15:05
mnaserdiablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor15:05
diablo_rojoI updated the patches that needed to be updated (I think)15:05
diablo_rojoThe days blur together a bit.15:06
mnaser#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/76705615:06
mnaser#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/76705715:06
gmannthis is still failing, did not see failure yet, anything pending on repo side15:06
diablo_rojoI will take that as a no- still more work to do.15:07
mnaserthe project-confgi change has a -115:07
gmannrebase issue https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/767057/2/zuul.d/projects.yaml15:07
mnaser^ yeah15:07
diablo_rojoWhoops.15:07
diablo_rojoBungled that rebase.15:07
diablo_rojoIll fix it today.15:08
gmannhttps://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open15:08
mnaser#link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522retire-karbor%2522+status:open15:08
gmanndiablo_rojo: x/flame is not active so you can leave that open15:08
mnaserok cool, so we'll keep it as an action item for the next one to follow up on it15:08
mnaser#action diablo_rojo complete retirement of karbor15:09
diablo_rojoYep. Sorry!15:09
mnaserdiablo_rojo/ricolin reach out to SIGs/ML and start auditing states of SIGs15:09
diablo_rojoI did this15:09
ricolindiablo_rojo, already make ML and etherpad out15:09
diablo_rojoand started an etherpad15:09
mnaser(we have a topic for this later diablo_rojo ,wanna keep it for then?)15:09
mnaserand ricolin :>15:09
diablo_rojoSure?15:09
diablo_rojoEither works15:09
mnaserokey cool, lets keep it for the agenda discussion topic :>15:10
mnasermnaser drop "Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient" from agenda < done15:10
ricolin#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates15:10
mnasermnaser reach out to tripleo + other high usage job teams re: usage < done, and started talking with the tripleo team about reducing their usage, i dont have a full update yet but we are progressing, i will try and ask a public share of the progress :)15:10
mnaserthe rest is a bunch of topic drops which are all done, so lets save some time  :>15:11
mnaser#topic Audit SIG list and chairs (diablo_rojo)15:11
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mnaser#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2021-SIG-Updates15:11
diablo_rojoSo there's that etherpad^15:11
mnaser#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019994.html15:11
diablo_rojoI sent it to the ML and have had a little pickup, but could use more opinions than largely just ricolin's and mine :)15:12
mnasertc-members: ^ please leave comments on that etherpd15:12
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gmannmay be we should get the SIG chari/co-chair opinion also if we can reach out to them.15:12
* dansmith is here, btw15:13
gmannif not reachable then automatically that SIG need update either new chair or move the state15:13
mnaseryes that si correct15:13
mnaser#action tc-members review and leave comments on the etherpad for SIG updates15:14
diablo_rojoThats kind of what I was hoping15:14
ricolinwe can indeed ask each SIG to update it's chair or status if they don't reply the ML or etherpad15:14
diablo_rojoI just didnt do direct outreach yet15:14
gmannyeah, ML has been ignored by leaders in many cases in past like PTL case:)15:15
mnaserok thats fair, well i think diablo_rojo and ricolin are pushing this pretty well :)15:15
gmann+115:15
mnasernext-up15:17
mnaser#topic Gate performance and heavy job configs (dansmith)15:17
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jungleboyj++15:17
dansmithoh sticky15:17
dansmiththings are a lot better today than they were a week ago, which I chalk up to the tripleo jobs being dropped from neutron,15:17
dansmithand also fungi had some cloud capacity he was using for personal bitcoin mining that he gave back to the pool15:18
gmannyeah but still it is ling queue15:18
fungihah15:18
dansmithyeah, it's still very long, but better15:18
dansmithwe have a bunch of spurious job failures which are also not helping15:18
dansmithI also cut 25% of the time off of a devstack run,15:19
dansmithbut gmann wasn't impressed15:19
gmann:), I am still bringing my VM up to test that.15:19
dansmithbut, I think progress is being made.. I still wouldn't rule out a syncup with the tripleo people15:19
dansmithgmann: :)15:19
mnaserdansmith: wow how was that done?15:19
gmann+1 on tripleo syncup15:20
dansmithmnaser: trying to figure out how to answer that properly :)15:20
dansmithmnaser: I have a patch up to parallelize devstack instead of do everything in serial which saves a lot of time15:20
dansmithfive minutes to stack for me locally15:20
dansmithand there's a lot of parallelizing left that can be done to make it faster15:20
mnaserneaaaat15:20
dansmithmnaser: this is just stack.sh time, not the whole devstack tempest run of course15:21
slaweqdansmith: hi, do we have any new data how much of time are neutron jobs using now?15:21
dansmithslaweq: we could ask clarkb to regen that, but I think it probably takes several weeks to get a noticeable number15:21
jungleboyjdansmith:  That is cool.15:21
slaweqdansmith: ok15:21
ricolindansmith, nice!15:21
dansmithslaweq: I have taken you and your project off my dart board though :)15:21
slaweqdansmith: good to hear that :)15:21
slaweqthx15:21
mnaserI will try and have an update from the tripleo team15:22
mnaserThanks for those patches. Have a link for them handy dansmith15:23
gmann+1, thanks15:23
dansmithyeah,15:23
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/771505/515:23
gmann^^15:23
dansmithhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/77150515:23
dansmither, yeah15:23
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dansmithmnaser: gmann had them handy because he's busy reviewing them, I'm sure :P15:24
gmannI will test and update on this, mainly with fresh VM as gate does fresh VM always instead of stack/unstack15:24
* dansmith stops laying it on so thick15:24
gmanndansmith: yeah :)15:24
dansmithhehe15:24
gmannits one of the priority open tab for me15:24
dansmithwoohoo :)15:24
mnasercool15:27
mnaser#action mnaser continue to sync with tripleo team to reduce usage15:28
mnaser#action qa team to land parallelizing changes for devstack15:28
mnaser#topic Dropping lower-constraints testing from all projects (gmann)15:28
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gmannI am testing the l-c job with direct deps only which is what we have in requirements.txt15:28
gmannthat is one of the proposal on ML15:29
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77278015:29
gmannI will update the results on ML after gate finsh15:29
gmannthat is all form me on this.15:29
gmannmay be fungi has something to update or share on this.15:30
mnaseri guess they are afk :)15:32
mnaserok so we'll just update on that15:32
mnaser#topic Open Reviews15:32
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gmannyeah, we can continue this on ML and next week we can have more data15:32
fungii didn't have anything new on the l-c discussion beyond what i posted to the ml, no15:33
fungi(not afk, just lots of discussions to juggle right now)15:33
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mnaserok, we have a few reviews that we need to finish up15:34
mnasercan i ask tc members to carve up sometime to go over reviews15:35
gmanntwo left for me as un-reviewed, i will do today(within meeting as we have time)15:35
jungleboyjmnaser:  Will make time for that.15:36
mnaserany changes anyone wants to call out?15:36
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/77086015:37
gmannXena testing runtime, which replacing centos -> centos stream15:37
gmannsomething rdo community to notice15:37
gmannyoctozepto: ^^15:37
ricolin+1ed15:38
mnaserany other open discussion items?15:39
gmannnothing from me15:41
ricolinnothing from me15:41
jungleboyjNothing from me.15:42
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dansmithle no15:43
yoctozeptogmann: thanks15:44
mnaser#endmeeting15:45
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mnaserthanks everyone15:45
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jungleboyjThanks everyone.15:47
yoctozeptogmann: posted a comment regarding nodejs15:50
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