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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/governance master: Deprecate openstack-ansible-galera_client role https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/765784 | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/governance master: Revive os_monasca https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/765800 | 12:33 |
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| gmann | o/ | 14:03 |
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| smcginnis | I've kept the naming poll open a little past the published deadline. Last call for anyone that hasn't voted yet. I'll be closing it out soon. | 15:57 |
| * fungi hums, "xanadu... xanadu oo-oo..." | 15:58 | |
| mnaser | cc tc-members ^ | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 17:08 |
| ttx | It's the first one EVER that I don;t vote on. But I trust y'all. | 17:21 |
| ttx | I'll soon know if that was a good idea | 17:21 |
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| smcginnis | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLi8fTlDEag | 18:02 |
| smcginnis | X naming is still subject to Foundation vetting, but Xanadu is the winner, followed by Xena and a third place three way tie for Xenith, Xenon, and Xenomorph. | 18:05 |
| fungi | on a roll! assuming it passes muster, it will be the third winning openstack release name i've suggested | 18:14 |
| fungi | not in a row (my suggestions for u didn't win and i didn't suggest anything for v or w), but still | 18:22 |
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| njohnston | FYI the next OpenStack release will be... OpenStack Xanadu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLi8fTlDEag | 20:34 |
| njohnston | (pending copywright check) | 20:34 |
| njohnston | (sorry meant to announce that to some internal folks) | 20:36 |
| fungi | heh, no worries, it never gets old ;) | 20:45 |
| gmann | tc-members: Reminder to vote on these two project removal review: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/764530 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/764523 | 21:04 |
| jungleboyj | Done. :-) | 21:05 |
| gmann | :) | 21:14 |
| zaneb | Xanadu an obvious trademark non-starter due to http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:rd7j4a.2.18 if not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu | 21:17 |
| jungleboyj | I assumed Xenon would be as well given Intel having it as a processor. | 21:18 |
| zaneb | field of use matters. a processor and cloud software are arguably unlikely to be confused for each other | 21:21 |
| njohnston | I could see a case being made for "Blahblah Cloud.... powered by Xenon!" being confusing | 21:22 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 21:22 |
| zaneb | but e.g. "Platform-as-a-service, Software-as-a-service, and Infrastructure as-a-service" as a field of use is basically insurmountable | 21:23 |
| zaneb | https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87978909&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch is probably a better link | 21:24 |
| zaneb | https://www.xanadu.com/HISTORY/ claims that Project Xanadu is registered also, but I can't find the registration right now | 21:25 |
| zaneb | jungleboyj: also xenon and xeon are different words despite containing many of the same letters | 21:27 |
| jungleboyj | Ha ... That is right is xeon, not xenon. | 21:27 |
| jungleboyj | a lot of common letters there. | 21:28 |
| zaneb | smcginnis: will the link to the poll votes be posted somewhere? | 21:28 |
| gmann | zaneb: I think not yet announced. this one https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_7e6e96070af39fe7 | 21:30 |
| zaneb | hmm, "Ballot reporting was not enabled for this poll." :( | 21:30 |
| gmann | seems total 6 vote cast | 21:31 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, not great. | 21:31 |
| jungleboyj | Would have been best to see everyone vote. | 21:31 |
| smcginnis | That was disappointing. I know a few folks were out on vacation, but the dates had been published for awhile. | 21:31 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 21:32 |
| smcginnis | I left it open almost an extra day to try to see if we could pick up one or two, but I think it sat at 6 since last week. | 21:32 |
| gmann | and out of 6, mine was neutral so basically 5 votes | 21:32 |
| smcginnis | This seemed to work better when the TC was larger. :) | 21:32 |
| jungleboyj | *SMH* | 21:33 |
| zaneb | reminder that the process requires the votes to be public: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html#release-naming-process | 21:38 |
| smcginnis | Crap, I did forget about the last part of "The electorate will be Technical Committee, and the poll should be run in a manner that allows members of the community to see what each TC member voted for." | 21:42 |
| smcginnis | Well, if it was really only five people, folks could share what they voted for? | 21:43 |
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| spotz | So who won?!!!!!! | 22:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | I did my civic duty. | 22:49 |
| fungi | spotz: xanadu was apparently the top pick in the poll, but there's some question about whether http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:rd7j4a.2.18 indicates it would ultimately be unsuitable | 23:34 |
| spotz | hrm | 23:35 |
| fungi | but the oif legal folk are going to put it through a thorough evaluation anyway | 23:36 |
| fungi | there are a couple live entries for quantum computing related work, one for digital music and music distribution, one for electronic gaming and gambling, and then the aforementioned entry for project xanadu | 23:42 |
| fungi | "Goods and Services: IC 009. US 038. G & S: computer programs and instructional manuals used therewith for use in a hypertext system, electronic literary system, electronic literature, storage manager, network storage manager, write-once memory manager, distribution storage system, hypertext server, hypermedia server, hypertext network, hypermedia network, hypernet, electronic publishing method, and | 23:42 |
| fungi | xanalogical storage. FIRST USE: 19701000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19790200" | 23:42 |
| fungi | registered in 1994 and still marked as "live" | 23:43 |
| fungi | the question around any of them mainly comes down to field of endeavor, and of any that seems like the closest to what openstack does (though whether it's within spitting distance is for lawyers to say) | 23:45 |
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