Tuesday, 2020-10-27

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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal for migrate RBAC policy format from JSON to YAML  https://review.opendev.org/75988114:50
diablo_rojotc-members: Do we want to use the default zoom room? Or would we rather use meetpad?14:52
mnasermugsie: are you going to be able to join us today? :)15:03
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fungion gerrit slowness/503 errors, opendev has been tracking and blocking random google cloud ip addresses which keep trying to query gerrit to scrape comments from all historical changes15:10
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Might be good to put the mic in the same room as you. :D15:28
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diablo_rojosmcginnis, lol I am that quiet?15:31
diablo_rojoZoom turned my gain all the way down....15:31
smcginnisMaybe it's just me. In generally, zoom seems much quieter. I was on a bluejeans call, then a meetpad, and sound was loud and clear. Now I joined zoom and I had to turn my volume way, way up to hear you.15:32
diablo_rojoWell hopefully the next time I talk its better.15:33
mnaserdiablo_rojo: your mic sounded a tad bit lower :X15:35
fungii'm using the zoom webclient, but it's the same volume for me as meetpad has been15:35
mnasers/lower/low/15:36
diablo_rojoWTF15:36
diablo_rojoHow was that?15:37
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Your volume is super low.15:37
jungleboyjI hear your keyboard now.  :-)15:37
diablo_rojoI turned my zoom input all the way up so we shall see15:37
diablo_rojolol15:37
jungleboyjOk.  I think it might be better since I didn't hear the keyboard before15:38
jungleboyjThere.  That is better.15:38
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/governance master: Begin the 'X' release naming process  https://review.opendev.org/75988815:39
* fungi places his bet on "xanadu"15:48
smcginnisxylophone might be OK.15:53
smcginnisShould be interesting what the community comes up with for this letter.15:53
diablo_rojoXenon15:58
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fungisciencey16:02
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/governance master: Begin the 'X' release naming process  https://review.opendev.org/75988816:09
TheJuliaxray, and then we add all of the highly accelerated logic in the xray release16:19
fungithen in another year we can name a release zray as a futurama reference16:21
clarkbhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristella_maxillaris#/media/File:Pristella_maxillaris.jpg this xray tetra says hello16:23
TheJuliafungi: ++16:23
TheJuliaWhenever we work around to T next time, we likely need to make sure we consider some sort of time travel reference, fwiw.16:24
fungiTheJulia: better if you just go back a year and make your time travel reference16:25
TheJuliaBut then I guess I'd create a new time line and would never want to re-live 2020 again.16:26
clarkbimagine if that made things worse16:26
fungimy imagination is already shot... worse?16:27
fungii suppose destabilizing the fabric of spacetime could be worse16:27
TheJuliaOr... better?!16:27
fungid'oh!16:27
TheJuliaHey, you know what would be better?  A holodeck arch.16:27
fungii keep calling for one but i think the arch has been locked out16:28
fungiwe're trapped in this simulation16:28
* TheJulia is amused that somebody put "holodeck control panel" printed screens on trash cans in LA16:28
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fungidiablo_rojo: i pretend not to be around during office hours now16:41
smcginnisI like the theory that 2020 is just a series of events where someone tried to go back in time to fix things and made it worse. And they kept doing and introducing another bad thing.16:44
funginote that the obligation in the latest version of the bylaws is not anywhere near a monthly frequency16:44
fungii'd quote it if zoom weren't killing my browser16:45
fungi"4. Meetings of Technical Committee. The Technical Committee shall meet at least twice per calendar year."16:46
fungihttps://www.openstack.org/legal/technical-committee-member-policy/16:46
smcginnisWhich had been met by the Summits and holding the joint leadership meetings.16:47
openstackgerritKendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) proposed openstack/governance master: Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient  https://review.opendev.org/75990416:47
fungithe reason to avoid holding discussions in meetings is that the community previously complained the tc wasn't holding discussions on the mailing list16:48
fungidiscussions happened in irc/meetings and then the community would find out weeks later after a decision had been made16:48
openstackgerritKendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) proposed openstack/governance master: Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient  https://review.opendev.org/75990416:49
fungibut also tc resolutions are required to be discussed on the ml anyway (that's encoded in the resolution process)16:49
openstackgerritKendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) proposed openstack/governance master: Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient  https://review.opendev.org/75990416:50
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fungi"Motions presented before the TC should be discussed publicly to give a chance to the wider community to express their opinion. Motions should therefore be announced on the development mailing list and posted to Gerrit for review for a minimum of 7 calendar days." https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#charter-motions-section16:55
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal for migrate RBAC policy format from JSON to YAML  https://review.opendev.org/75988117:20
gmanntc-members: lbragstad ^^ fixed the formatting things17:21
lbragstadgmann awesome thanks17:22
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dansmithgmann: didn't mnaser want some dash-to-underscore conversion?17:25
gmanndansmith: let me check17:26
dansmithgmann: I think he just said it on the meeting just now, not in gerrit17:26
gmanndansmith: i think it was other way around for file name.17:26
dansmithah, okay which you changed, got it17:27
gmannyeah17:27
jungleboyjAwesome.  Thanks lbragstad17:28
jungleboyjmnaser:  Thanks for the reminder to set up the zoning for Winter.  Done now.  :-)17:28
dansmithso, here's my been-wfh-forever protip on heating:17:29
dansmithTurn the house heat down to minimal during the workday, heat only the office space with a 100% efficient electric heater17:29
dansmithsaves a lot not heating the whole house and also makes the kitchen uncomfortably cold to reduce loitering near calories ;)17:30
jungleboyjdansmith:  ++  That makes sense!17:30
dansmithworks less effectively if you have a house full of spousal and child units though, granted17:30
jungleboyjYeah.  In the current covid times I have to worry about other people.  I used to just turn the heat down and the computers in my office and sun through the window did the heating.17:31
jungleboyjNow there are others to keep warm.17:32
gmannnice, its central heating in my apartment and very discomfort.17:32
dansmithjungleboyj: yeah, having to worry about others sucks. Maybe just tell them to wear their coats inside? :)17:32
dansmithjungleboyj: "F is for Family" has a lot of similar tried-and-true parenting examples, if you haven't seen it..17:33
jungleboyj*SMH*17:34
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fungichristine and i both work from home, so i feel like that would work less well for me, or rather not be a solution i can effectively negotiate17:36
jungleboyjMy heat doesn't run a lot on Sunny days.  Have a lot of windows on the south of the house that do natural warming.17:36
dansmithmy wife is home now too, but we have separate office rooms, so we're heating them both and the house is cold17:37
fungiin our case it's air conditioning, not heating. i would gladly turn it off and let the heat rise to 90f in the house, but she wants the whole place chilled like a refrigerator17:38
fungisometimes i work from the deck just to warm up17:38
jungleboyjMy office is an oven no matter what I do with the AC so I just turn on fans and deal with it.17:39
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openstackgerritAmy Marrich (spotz) proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Update Tech Writers SiG chairs  https://review.opendev.org/75996422:12
openstackgerritKendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) proposed openstack/governance master: Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient  https://review.opendev.org/75990422:31
openstackgerritKendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) proposed openstack/governance master: Add Resolution of TC stance on the OpenStackClient  https://review.opendev.org/75990422:32
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