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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/election master: Stop to use the __future__ module. https://review.opendev.org/732836 | 11:44 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 12:57 |
| mnaser | tc-members: our discussion with the glance team was mostly all pretty good but we have a block right now, the glance team is refusing to revert these changes (including stable backports): https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I93dc7c999ff7a180e6b3ff760fa65328b9a883f3 -- the other members involved in the discussion all agree they should be reverted | 13:11 |
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| njohnston | mnaser: There was more support from them for "Should we backport a documentation change to have a more strict warning?" - maybe we could sell them on not a revert, but a restoration of the text under a more comprehensive warning. | 13:50 |
| dansmith | this also indicates no intent on a wholesale revert: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742704/1 | 13:58 |
| dansmith | this is putting back a piece of it, but mostly because of the ussuri mention in train I think | 13:58 |
| mnaser | njohnston: i mean, there was always a warning. we could work on making it more strict if needed | 14:10 |
| mnaser | jungleboyj: curious to hear a ptl pov | 14:10 |
| jungleboyj | Ugh. | 14:15 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So putting on my Cinder PTL hat. | 14:16 |
| jungleboyj | I understand the updates that Erno has made to the documentation though they are terse. If doing what is documented there isn't the right/safe thing to do, I would want that in there as well. | 14:17 |
| jungleboyj | Though, what is in there doesn't make OpenStack look the best. Why are those sections even in the documentation then? | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | The patch is really airing dirty laundry. | 14:19 |
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| mnaser | jungleboyj: but there was a warning before saying 'this ain't supported, import doesn't work but the overall api does' | 14:21 |
| mnaser | and we went from that warning to now removing docs (so someone who expected them to be there, all of a sudden, doesn't see them there) | 14:21 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. I am just looking at that. | 14:21 |
| jungleboyj | I mean, we could compromise and leave the documentation and make a more explicit warning in the heading. I.E. 'uWSGI Server HTTP Mode (NOT RECOMMENDED)' | 14:23 |
| jungleboyj | Otherwise, the warning there is pretty obvious and clear even for me as a color blind person. | 14:24 |
| clarkb | one issue with not recommending it particularly on the stable branches is that is how we've tested glance right? | 14:26 |
| clarkb | so what we are doing is saying "we tested it this way but no one should use it that way glhf with the other option who knows if it works" ? | 14:26 |
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| mnaser | clarkb: yeah, i think that's something i have an issue with too | 14:49 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: We are renaming projects in Gerrit and review.opendev.org will experience a short outage. Thank you for your patience. | 15:23 | |
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| gmann | clarkb: mnaser: right but we can write the tests and keep adding the info for each stable if that feature works under uwsgi or not or what is recommendation from performance pov. | 15:47 |
| gmann | other way to proceed is to get dansmith wsgi fix merge and backport that with doc patch revert. if that work for glance | 15:49 |
| fungi | they seemed amenable to reverting (and removing the warning) if the fix could be backported first | 15:50 |
| dansmith | clarkb: yes, aside from import (which is not tested at all) the only testing on those branches was done via wsgi | 15:50 |
| dansmith | clarkb: so suddenly calling that unsupported (or more unsupported), retroactively, is uncool | 15:51 |
| dansmith | removing the instructions that *were* there is heinous | 15:51 |
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| gouthamr | hi gmann, when you have a min, i've responded to your comments on https://review.opendev.org/740509 | 17:24 |
| gouthamr | ty for calling that out, we're now testing accessibility of the controlled resources for real | 17:24 |
| gmann | thanks gouthamr , in another call. I will check it today. | 17:25 |
| gouthamr | ack, no rush, gmann | 17:25 |
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